It's weird how you post a video explaining what size compressor is required to paint a car and still every comment is from someone who wants to disregard what you are saying and use a Harbor Freight 2.5 horse compressor with a twenty-gallon tank to paint their car. They believe the r500 lvlp gun only uses 3.5 cfm and it will work perfectly. Well, I saw actual tests done with that gun and if adjusted properly it used 7.5 / 10 cfm. When you read the actual specs, they include with the gun it Staes 11 cfm and yet they still advertise it as using 3.5 cfm. Yes, you can turn the air flow down lower and hold the gun 4" from the car and still paint with a small compressor but to use it optimally you better have a minimum of 10 cfm and 30 gallons of air to be painting a car.
Good video Shaun. Now I wonder if you could build a manifold and attach about 20 hoses to it and then have 20 healthy men blow into the hoses. Connect the paint gun to a hose in the middle of the manifold. I wonder how many people it would take to be able to provide enough volume and CFM to paint a car
I painted the whole car with smallest compressor (1hp- 9liter).... with small gun it was perfect, bigger 1.4 gun it make orange appeal due to not enough air volume... but I guess 50l with 4-5hp will work like magic...just play with settings of gun and dilute the paint to have uniform flux...
This video has been very useful because you tackled basic questions that a person who wants to paint a car/replacement parts to see what they need & while they have they stuff already they can adapt & learn more while improving their craft Thank you! Getting my 60gal today
Right on Shaun, I was just talking to WJ Handy Dad about this. I was trying to convince him to get an "Ultra Quiet Air Compressor" like I have, and he was worried it wouldn't be big enough. -Chuck
Ahh man… you’re using those 20 year old marketing HP numbers :( Those 3HP pancake types are closers to .5 or .3 HP but not usually more than 1HP. The true 2HP use about 15-20amps and can flow between 5-8 CFM @ 90 PSI.
@@blakejohnson2206 Correct. Small motor on a large tank, the tank is going to slowly empty. When its empty the motor wont be able to overcome the gun's needs. You will have to stop and wait.
I'm 5 ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ painter and here I'm watching this video thanks for the information because I'm about to do small jobs, so the sizes matters depends. I always had the 60 gallons and up ... thanks
Hey kc thanks for taking the time. I did a lot of auction work on site doing blow ins and did a lot of work on brand new vehicles with a small pancake compressor. It can be done well but you definitely need to stay in the lane for size of repairs. Appreciate it 👍
i am testing a gun very soon ,waiting on shipping but should be perfect for a small form compressor. this size compressor is mostly suitable for a touch up gun, a great place to get started for any level of experience . ring the bell ask questions any time always happy to help out!
I was going to use the Royal heir 9 gallon 2-stage but my question is do they still make paint machines with texture? And which one should I get Apartments businesses houses I got a nine gallon air compressor butt no one can sell me a painting machine all takes batteries now I stopped at every single store and they all take battery I'm getting frustrated can you help me please I guess this video was made early 2000 everybody I seen even car factory they all use battery please make a comment had a great day bye
Hello Shaun, I need a compressor good enough to complete by Beetle 1956 restoration job. Looking to buy 6.8CFM /8Bar /2HP Air Compressor as I don't have spare space in my tiny garage. I found a DAXINYANG LVLP Spray Gun R500, Automotive Air Paint Sprayer Gun! As I'm a beginner, Is this a good choice? Thanks a lot Shaun.
i have only purchased one lvlp spray gun ,it was around a 100 bucks and gave more than acceptable results. as a beginner i would suggest going to your local jobber and ask if they have any mismatch paint you can buy reasonable to practice with before you go forward with your beetle paint job to be on the safe side , of do a practice run on the back side of the panels you have off. good luck and let me know how you make out!
I want to paint my car but I don’t want to use rattle can. I’m thinking of her a pancake compressor . I’m thinking of do panel by panel . What kinda gun that would work with low volume low pressure?
A pancake compressor will not supply enough air to paint a complete panel. Great for a touch up but doesn't have the recovery necessary. I am going to shoot a video on this topic of painting panel by panel. This question came up twice today 👍 always happy to answer questions
Definitely better than no compressor. The compressor will be playing catch up a lot. Meaning it won't shut off while you are using it. It all depends on what work you are doing.
you would need to find a sprayer that fit those parameters ,like a touchup gun for example . 8 gallon is not a lot of volume but the 5.5 might give you enough recovery to do a bit of painting. hope that answered your question . start with a small job and you can judge from there.
@@thisguysgarage Makes sense. I think I'll actually add a 20 gallon auxiliary tank and see how that does. 28 gallons with the above specs should make a half decent setup while still allowing great portability for nailing jobs with just the wheelbarrow compressor.
What would you charge to paint a trailer with a 6X8 bed that is 14 feet from the rear to the tongue? I'm a disabled Combat Vet and wanna get back into painting. I served in the Air Force and Army. When I was in the Air Force, I painted F-!6s and A-10s. So, I know what I'm doing. I also understand that you gotta pay for experience. So, what would be a fair price?
Hey to be reasonable if you are just getting back into it , time is money ,so if you can get the job done in 20 hours, figure your time is worth 30/40 per hour, I usually judge material costs at the same rate as labor so probably would ballpark 12-16 hundred dollars. Total Just a ballpark, for estimate Let me know if this helps
I think I will just be paiting my vw bugs. I am thinking a 30 gallon should work, I am in no hurry. So do you have to wait for a couple hours? Also is a 110v compressor ok to use?
@@thisguysgarage most air compressors run on 120v 15a outlets which is 1800w. 1hp is 745 watts so the maximum power draw is only 2.4hp. And devices that have continuous draw can only draw 80% of the amp rating of the circuit which is 1500w or exactly 2hp.
I ascribed can you tell me where to find and buy a paint sprayer and a hopper with the texture machine thing good that thing goes right into the five gallon bucket attach your your compressor to it and you start spraying the life of me I cannot find online or the stores around here in Colorado doll battery and none of them Take 5 gallon bucket anymore
I just bought one , it appears to work better at lower pressure but have not had opportunity to test with a smaller compressor ,but as far as the scale presented in the video it would not change a great deal, any paint gun consumes a lot of air. ty great question
I want to start pinting cars in my garage can you help me choose a good air compressor and a gun? please I’m new to this so any help would be highly appreciated 🙏🏽
touchup Repairs are a little different. the smaller you can keep it, will lead to successful refinishing. thanks for taking the time jake,love the handle 👍
If your painting at home make sure you check with your state environmental rules. Certain size cups you can only use at home if you don't have a paint booth. If you have a nosey neighbor and they start complaining About over spray you can be fined. And make sure you have a pl!ce where udispose of ur extra clear coat which should just harden up but dispose of ur chemicals the right way. If your doing all this at home without a paint booth.
my question is.. i have 2 different compressors.. 1 is 33gal and 1 is 20 gal.. is it possible to alternate between both so when 1 gets low and starts recharging can i just jump to the othe full compressor and so on? basically is it almost like having a 53gal compressor by doing that?.... and the reason i have 2 is because 1 was a gift 15 years ago, and 1 i recently purchased myself.
Here is the specification of my air compressor: Maximum Air Pressure 115 PSI Air Tank Capacity 21 Gallons Air Flow Capacity Motor Required Circuit Pump Stage Air Outlet Size 4.9 SCFM at 90 PSI 7 SCFM at 40 PSI 3 HP Working / 5 HP Peak 120 Volt / 60 Hz / 12 A / 1-Phase Minimum 20 Amp *dedicated Single 1/4” - 18 NPT. My question is can I use this to paint my entire truck or do I need to get a big Air compressor?
Depends what gun you use. My gun requires 13cfm to function properly. You have to compare your volume of compressor putting out to what your gun needs. Compressor size, horsepower don’t mean anything. Volume is what you look at.
I'm spraying my food truck down with a clear coat after the artist finishes. I have an hvlp and a 26 gallon tank. Can I do sections at a tike with it and still have a smoothe, even finish? Or should the Clearwater all be sprayed continuously?
Very knowledgeable man and loved the use of the white board! Ifd if that means im a dummy but you gain a dummy sub i hope to learn more before i purchase my own equipment!
I would need to know exactly what you have , I'm going to make a video on this topic since you were the second person to ask. Let me know what you have for equipment 👍
@@thisguysgarage I'm sorry. I have a summit racing lvlp 1.3 which i read is a sprayit 33000 clone. 20 gallon Husky quiet compressor. Haven't painted yet, i'm still gathering supplies. Thank you for the reply.
I wanted to paint but don't really have an idea how 😂. Your examples about using a small compressor for touch up jobs gave good insight about the job, of course all the other tips seems useful, I guess I need hands-on experience to tell if they are. Thanks!
Looking at getting a compressor to start painting at home. Looking at a 60 gallon. One compressor is max 155 psi and one is 175. Does it matter which one I get
I'm in the market for a air compressor to paint the rocker panels on my Expedition. I currently own a 6g 3hp compressor now. Would that do the job or shall I invest in a 60g? If it helps to know this is probably a one time deal for me that's why I'm hesitant to buy but I also don't have the budget to pay for Macco
if you are just painting rocker panels you could get away with a mini touchup gun for your rockers . if its a one time deal ,i would go that route. one like this amzn.to/3vFx2vk
@@ferminmontoya243 complete? Too much surface area. Bare minimum on a truck cab complete would be 30 gallon. Let me know if you have any other questions 👍
I have a question, so I'm looking to add spray on finishes to my business which is gunsmithing, but i want to know what equipment would best be suited for my job, firearms arent that big but still want a top quality finish on all firearms. would that HVLP gun work or should i also stay away from it. also should i stay in the medium size tanks like 15 gallon and up? thanks in advance.
I would suggest a conventional gravity gun , but to help you better I would need to know what coating you are using. Is it automotive color for metal or wood stain and varnish?
So I’m fixing to tackle my first paint job It’s on a 07 classic crew cab Chevy 1500 not really trying to break the bank on a air compressor as I’ll only be using it probably one time just on this one truck what gallon,cfm,and hp would you recommend from my understanding I need to be in the 15-20cfm range but all of those are 1500 plus and I’m really not trying to spend more then 500 bucks on a air compressor got ant links you could send me for something that would be good for what I’m trying to do?
I would look for a good used 60 gallon stand up that at that point because a super crew full size Truck has a lot of surface area. The only other option would be to paint it in pieces which is not ideal. Home depot used to sell a 60 gallon stand up for $999 . I would look for a good used one 500 dollars should get you there. Ty yee yee. Any other questions don't hesitate 👍
Horsepower on a 60 gallon compressor matters i think... you have a 3.7 hp 60 gallon cp or a 5 to 6 horsepower 60 gallon cp it makes a difference im not sure if you could paint a allover with a 3.7 horsepower 60 gallon or not? jury is out on that the air pressure would come back up quick enough before u would get a pass done or if it would build fast enough before u would apply the second coat which is important sometimes hot weather or reducer your using in a singlestage paint can require a quick flashtime and when you start that second coat would that 3.7 hp motor have the compressor built back up enough for you to truly lay down that second coat??????????????? Your thoughts sir?? I have no doubts the 5 to 6 horsepower compressor would do it i really think your fine with that one
recovery is an issue, we had a 3hp 60 gallon in my dads shop 30 years ago for years before hvlp was a thing ,recovery wasn't as big an issue with a conventional gun ,but still an issue. there is always flash time between coats so the compressor will be full when starting your second coat , but like the smaller compressors it really comes down to the square footage you are painting ,if you are spraying a Miata you wont have an issue, if you are painting a panel van with lots of surface area then the compressor will be playing catch up, as far as temperature that can be controlled with your solvent and activator. make sense? strategy becomes involved thanks for the great question ,ask one any time ,hope you rang the bell and stay in touch my friend!
Good info, and easy to follow. The HP rating examples for the pancake and 20-30 gallon compressors seem a bit inflated to me, especially for single stage 120 volt units, are you referring to the older ratings before manufacturers had to meet standard requirements.
great question Michael, i use them for reference ,by tank size i was referring to the scope of the size of the repair you are able to paint without running out of air, the hp ratings are all over the place from compressor to compressor, but the volume of air remains constant, the hp would certainly have a lot to do with air recovery. hope this answers it, if not don't hesitate to follow up! ty for taking the time.
Hey boss man great video I happen to be trying to put 230 gallon tanks together to equal a 60 gallon tank can you tell me how to connect those two together that would be a great video for you to put out because I don't have a lot of money and being that the 60 gallon air compressor has a 220 volt plug I'm doing this for outside and I wanted to use something that plugged directly into a normal what is it 110 plug and I want to put two of them together to make a 60 you know gallon to be able to paint a whole car thank you for your videos you're doing a great job keep up the work buddy I love learning from you 👍
@@thisguysgarage thanks for the quick reply 1 more question since I'm planing of taking. Out the fenders and doors to spray on them real good with a 20 -30 gallon take care of the job meaning painting the whole el camino in sections ?
i usually start just befor its going to shut off so its still in recovery mode , if you leave it shut off it will loose about 30 psi before it come back on, great question! ty Honey Dutch!
Here’s the problem I have I bought a 70 gallon compressor by industrial air but it only has a 3.1hp and a single stage compressor. Would I still be a to paint a hood with that? It’s an 85 sw Chevy tgat me and my son is building for him. Any tips would greatly be appreciated and what gun would you recommend
look for a high efficiency non help,all the guns i test on my channel are picked by me to work for this type of compressor. the limit to the 20 gallon is how much are you will be able to paint at one time. 👍great question. never hesitate to ask Vijay
What nose size to be it? I visited a few places today to get a sprayer gun , but I didn't find. I have been at Menard, Lowe's and Harbour Freight. All sprayer had the nose 1.3- 1.4 mm. Which one is the best ,and where can I find it ? Thank you.
I have a pretty old Sears 100PSI 12 gallon compressor. Would that be enough for undercoating the underbody of a 2 door sports car? If not what size would you recommend? Thanks!
I would use it. No need to buy bigger unless you have a need or bigger projects in the future. 40ish psi for an undercoating gun with a 25 foot hose if memory serves me , longer hose than that turn up the pressure Guage about 1 psi per foot, will get you in the ballpark 👍
Good tip on the paint stripper to clean a gun with dried paint inside. I have a question, is it better to remove fenders, doors etc and paint separate or to paint car assembled? I ask because I want to paint jams and both sides of hood, doors and trunk. Staying with same ford ua code black paint
if the paint on the jams is good there is really no reason to repaint if they will clean up and you can do a good job masking. i would always suggest painting car assembled . the air quality on the day can change your paint texture so recapturing the same look repeatedly can be difficult ,but not impossible . i have painted jams without removing panels .just mask well. if you already have it apart ,do the jams reassemble for good adjustment before painting. let me know if you have any other questions ,love it!
@@thisguysgarage ok thanks. I didn’t really want to remove all that stuff anyway because I’m a one man show. I have to do a little painting in a few jam areas down low because of rusted panels I replaced but don’t have to remove doors to get at it.
Being new ,trying to learn, I was wondering when spraying do you refill the gun cup when paint stops coming out, or do you stop and frill before you run out thank you
10.5-12cfm is adequate for nearly any full paint job. The fact that most smaller air compressors don't put that out is the issue. It's not all about compressor size as much as it is HP, CFM, etc...
