Compulsion | English Full Movie | Crime Drama Biography 

Fascinating if you are a liberal who cannot discern between what is morally right and what is morally wrong, and then sweep personal responsibility and accountability under the rug. It does make one feel intellectually superior though. And therein lies the self-justifyng evil.

@@larrywhited3070Actually this was how it actually happened in real life. Don’t know what politics has to do with anything.

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😢 Such inglorious fate. Had they been hanged they would have paid the price of atonement immediately, been purified and sanctioned as debt paid and forgiven by the Lord. I doubt they learned love by the sentence they got. I wonder how much they learned compassion for the innocent boy they jerked out of his life untimely.

You forgot to say that Loeb was murdered for coming onto another prisoner. Loeb was gay and had the hots for Leopold who MAY have been bisexual. But we don't know for sure.

The law traced the eyeglasses to the manufacturer. The boys were wealthy and had the glasses made for him. The manufacturer recognized his work and had sale for the Leopold brother It should be mentioned

Welles played a sickening bleeding heart liberal with no.compassion for the dead boy or his family

@@granny58 Maybe that's because Welles character as defense attorney was to represent the two young men and NOT the boy or his family. In case no one told you this, here in the United States everyone is entitled to representation and a fair trial.

Agree- he was a wonderful actor. TCM has some great interviews with him. Super interesting life.

Great comment. Thanks. I forgot to give a thumbs up at seeing Martin Milner & the ref to Rte 66.

“Let’s go watch them slaughter the sheep.” Now there’s a creepy line!!

@@robinholbrook6576Lol thanks! I meant Clarence Darrow. Der. 😁

Oh oh! Auto fill wrote “John Wilkes Boothe!” 🥴

George Maharis was the second lead in ROUTE 66. But their were 3 stars: Todd, Buzz, and a 1960 Corvette! Marty died in 2015 at 83 I think. George died this past May at 94. He was still handsome. The Corvette will live forever. I’m a 77 year old grandmother but I remember watching ROUTE 66 like it was yesterday. I watched it with my two younger brothers. One was and still is a car nut. He collects classic cars. As a matter fact, his 1930 something Cadillac won best of show in the Monterey classic car show one year in California. For those who don’t know that is one of the most prestigious, classic car shows in the world.

John Dahl- a very enigmatic and mysterious actor- watch "Gun Crazy" if you get a chance, he's passed now of course.

Thanks. I noticed the similarities right away

@@BeachsideHank You were thinking of John Dall who starred in "Rope" (1948). He died prematurely after an accident, in 1971. The other John Dahl is still around, in his '60s.

Yes- And Roddy McDowell played the Loeb Character in the Broadway production. Not sure why they didn’t use him in the film version.

Vote Red!

I’ll look it up. Interesting to note. This movie seems similar to the movie Rope

2nd cousin of loeb

Wasn't the kid 11 years old.

Loeb & Leopold

Bobby Frank's was 14 yrs old when murdered. The glasses did get them caught. The eyeglasses tied one of the killers to the place the body was left. Some aspect made them unique enough to make a positive identification

Agree. Also watch "Murder by Numbers" has the same plot as well.

Characteristic of the period ;) Wikipedia: "One piece of evidence was a letter written by Leopold claiming that he and Loeb were having a homosexual affair. Both the prosecution and the defense interpreted this information as supportive of their own position.[47] Darrow called a series of expert witnesses, who offered a catalog of Leopold's and Loeb's abnormalities. One witness testified to their dysfunctional endocrine glands, another to the delusions that had led to their crime."

Except that it doesn't show ANYTHING of the crime -- not even stalking or capturing the kid. Evidence IMHO that the film's purpose was polemic -- roses are reddish, violets are bluish, these two get off because they're newish.

I think he was not friends with anyone and Artie was a control the group character he chose to listen to him to keep his friendship, that's why it looks like Artie is in charge.

I agree. You can go to IMDB, Wikipedia, etc. get all that info and more. The content, plot, acting, etc. is more relevant to me than some words on the screen.

Real film enthusiasts want to see the whole film, including the credits, so that they know who did what, just as book enthusiasts like to have covers and title pages on their books, and notes and indices. Some people don't read, of course, and go to see films so they don't have to.

Both were productions based on the Leopold and Loeb trial... in real life.

It’s just called “Rope”. no “The” before it. Yes, it’s Hitch’s take on the same crime but both were fictional.

'Rope' was a drag but I think it wss better thsn this effort.

Orson was a genius.

@@mrlaw711: She’s right. Orson was an over-actor, and sure chewed up the scenery in the courtroom scene! Found myself thinking, “What judge would allow this”?!

@@nanwilder2853 You best read up on Clarence Darrow....you'd find him over-acting, too.

Needed some shampoo.

Why do people like you seem to always lump everyone not like you into one basket? You don't have a corner on history and you definitely do not have a corner on reality which a lot of liberals have skewed over the years. And I was kind enough not to make a blanket statement about them!

Why do liberal Minds project their issues onto other people? Not the conservatives that are going around destroying history, pulling down the statues, burning buildings... It's not conservatives going after our nation's children, they are trying to stop you from mutilating children's private parts, sending groomers into schools, drugging children's brains before they're fully developed, altering their endocrine systems with hormonal imbalances, which will adversely affect their brain, their heart - all organs... trying to put child pornography into Elementary School... sorry it's you liberals... News flash, your perceptions... are not reality. A few psych tests could demonstrate that with empirical evidence.

Agreed.

@@denisebotko7456 Classic deflection.

​@@Mark-gg6iy Who are you saying is "deflecting?" I would say liberals project their own insanity unto other people.

A bit more complicated than that. Research the Leopold/Loeb case for yourself. Tons of information on Google.

That’s what I was thinking.

Could be from where Bundy drew his inspiration.

@@patrickryan1515 L&L were nothing like Bundy or his murders.

Orson Welles playing Father Mapple in the movie Moby Dick. Superb performance.

@@nighttrain5692 Amen!! Gregory Peck was sooo good and mental in it as well….notvthe Atticus Finch I knew him as at all.

@@nighttrain5692 agreed. Gregory Peck killed it as well. Before seeing Moby Duck when I saw or thought of Gregory I always saw/thought Atticus. Never thought he could be soooo crazy and scary lolz

Loved Orson in Touch of Evil. My favorite Welles film - even over Citizen Kane.

…..and gay….or did you intentionally leave that off? Psychopaths.

A little bit of a difference, this one was based on a true story.

Of course. Clarence Darrow was the rock star of lawyers. His last trail was the Scopes Monkey Trail.

Thank you for your text. Just wanna point out that in Dostoievsky’s “Crime & Punishment,” protagonist Raskolnikov murdered his landlady

So rich that they thought they would get away with murder!

This could have been Welles kinda finest hour....

Spoiled as well. This behavior occurs when you aren't raised correctly.

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Welles wasn't working for those guys. He was working for their PARENTS. In addition, you cannot discount the mental illness in those guys. They were probably incapable of remorse.

Welles' true fight was that against the death penalty.

@@annelizabethcarroll3396 Yes, once he pled them guilty, it was his ONLY fight!

You should see him when he was a child actor in “Gentlemen’s Agreement” and “The Boy with Green Hair”. He was great in both.

The author of the book 'Compulsion' went to see 'St. Leopold' soon before his release. Leopold had been a model prisoner, teacher, learned medical practice and was paroled to do medical work among the poor in Puerto Rico. The author when talking to Leopold had a sudden terrifying insight that Leopold was STILL the same psychopath and that "St. Leopold" was a lifelong creation to pull one over on everyone.

Exactly. What a crock of b.s

"If there's any way to kill evil it's not by killing men." So the boys weren't really interested in killing evil, were they? (But they killed nonetheless).And the public and media and court officers are the ones interested in killing evil, by killing men, but this argument leaves everyone treading water in the middle of the ocean, except the innocent dead boy. Was the boy evil? Is there any doubt that the boy was killed in the hands of the founder of the Christian religion? The argument that killing the criminals would bring the boy back to life is a nonsensical unnecessary distraction. Any cry for capital punishment goes back to the hyena. This is also irrelevant. They committed an act that is animalistic and belongs to beasts in a jungle, no part of man. (What's wrong with the sloppy dressed lawyer, full of hot air?) The atonement for grievous and seriously horrific murder is for the murderer to give his life. The hanging atonement is done for the sake of the miscreant criminal. If the criminal does not atone in this life, he will continue to suffer in the next. These are the one God's dictums. Seeing the proper atonement and punishment does make it quite obvious what any person thinking about killing will have to face. Eighteen and twenty year olds can drink, drive, smoke and vote. They are not toddlers who accidently got a gun and pulled a trigger. Christian people don't believe in life eternal? Don't they believe there is life after death, and that everyone born must die, same as everyone that dies takes their birth in a next life? Pleading for anything fabricated in the manmade court of manmade law is hypocrisy. 😊 I HAD A HELL OF A GOOD TIME REFUTING THAT SLOPPY SOAPY SPEAL. 😊

@@tulayamalavenapi4028 And you did it so poorly.

Some of you guys know nothing about the history of the justice system. 100 years ago, back when people's attention spans were better than a 50 second TikTok, these long speeches by lawyers were quite common in courtrooms and COULD in fact sway juries and judges. If you think THIS speech was long, it's a good thing they didn't put up the ACTUAL speech from the lawyer in the real case, Clarence Darrow. Because it was 12 hours long. And it's considered the best speech of his career because it argued that the methods and punishments of the American justice system were inhumane. And they STILL are to this very day. Perhaps worse in some instances.

@@retroguy9494 were you alive 100 years ago?

Yes. The book Compulsion is excellent. For The Thrill Of It about the true L&L case is well worth your time.

Movies freely bend reality. Ever noticed few doors are ever locked in them? ;)

When I first heard about the case, I just assumed that the boys got the death penalty. I guess Clarence Darrow worked hard to get that sentence.

Yes dude; that was REALLY 'a thing' back then. It was kind of like the 1920's version of today's cable news networks making assumptions on incidents before people are booked or charged or go to trial. Back then, just like today with the news networks, there were papers that leaned left or right and if they had to, made up their own propaganda. Hearst newspapers were famous for doing that. As for the KKK, you have to remember that it was at it's peak in the 1920's. They actually had a major parade right in Washington DC where they marched in full robes by the Capitol. Harry Truman was actually a member for a very short time as were several members of Congress. The real life Jonathan Wilk who was Clarence Darrow was both loved and hated. Think of it like Biden and Trump. There was no middle of the road with Darrow. People either loved the man or hated his guts for his stance on Constitutional issues and his fight against injustice.

Miranda was stabbed to death in a bar.

You wrote they didn't have a soul not souls. You have found the essence of the case. They had no separate minds, hearts, or souls. They are incomplete and try to fill the emptiness with a perfect crime. Thanks for the insight.

I wouldn’t be proud of that

@@KattEyl I am not a commie. I believe that's why the speech didn't move me. I am proud of that.

It's absolute garbage, as I'm sure the original of it by Clarence Darrow was -- which doesn't keep it from being renowned for its length and bathos.

Commies wouldn’t be moved by it

They weren't sick; they were evil.

Some people are just born bad. I don’t think their parents are automatically to blame.

These kids had received incredible encouragement and praise for their gifts- making them feel like they were invincible. Oddly, I think this is more prevalent now than it was in the 1920’s.

Based on a true story

Yeah. Too bad poor or low income people with too much time on their hands couldn’t use their energies for good.

Yes, pure manipulation. Winning is much more highly favored than honesty and sincerity.

An especially sickening part is Egg Marshall's reaction to it. I'm sure we're supposed to devine from his expressions that he's being swayed, and by his mute rising at the end that he wanted to take back all those "mean" things he said.

@@larrywhited3070I’m not against the death penalty, but I know many who are (on moral grounds) and they’re honest and sincere.

Yes, very much

Indeed. The young Buchholz of "Eins, Zwei, Drei!". Cute guy.

I chased girls and they chased me, and then we all went to a baseball game for free. LOL

Then find somewhere else to watch it.

@@RevLeigh55 Yes.Eventually . But at least I saw the bulk of the movie, and i actually DO appreciate that. (I should have acknowledged that. I'll try to improved on that in the future/not good form to ignore giving thanks for what we are getting for free. ) I wonder why, tho, the credits are removed.

That is why IMDb was invented fool 🙄🙄🙄🙄

@@RevLeigh55 Dumb comment, Rev.

​@@pattimaeda6097Foolish comment.

In real life, one of them WAS killed in prison. It was Artie (his real name was Richard Loeb). He was cut with a razor like almost 60 times because he was gay and he came onto another prisoner. Judd (who's real name was Nathan Leopold) contributed a lot in prison, fighting to make conditions better many of which he won which made him well liked by the other inmates. He was paroled after 33 years, moved to Puerto Rico and got married.

@@retroguy9494 Nathan wrote a book LIFE PLUS 99 YEARS. I read it years ago. I thought it sounded self serving.

@@gotch09 I'm not surprised that it sounded self serving given the way his personality was portrayed in this movie. Perhaps I'll read the book. I didn't know he had written one!

Awful in Peyton Place, too.

And Route 66! The best show for girls in the early 60s. Two guys and a hot sports car. ❤

Wasn't Marty's first gig in a law enforcement role as a deputy- one of the Earp brothers (the assassinated one- Jimmy?) in "Gunfight At The O.K. Corral"?

@@BeachsideHank 1957..as James Earl in G @ OK Corral..but it wasnt his gig. You should see his gig resume. Its impressive. I liked bad boy Geo Maharis but his career was blase.

Should have written..not his first gig...

@@willaknotts1298 My point was "first gig in a law enforcement role", not his first movie role though. I did find him on some very early episodes of 1950's Dragnet, but no credits as a LEO. ☺

I'm a car guy and that Stutz was an AWESOME car. By 1920's standards anyway.