Congo Crisis 1960-1965 - Cold War DOCUMENTARY 

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6:02 the U.S. was not anti colonial. It pretended to be but they were allied with and heavily supported European states with military aid to crush independence movements in the third world.

Tippo tip also colonized eastern Congo and killed millions and enslaved them in the East African slave trade

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I hope your father's doing alright now, wherever he may be. Many countries will deprive their veterans of all which they need, another aspect of the hell of war.

I hope your dad eventually found peace

The Europeans MUST keep their standard of living, right?! Somebody has to pay for it: Belgium ( and others) in the Congo is only a pale example of this " reality"! The richer the " colony"; the most brutal the war of subjugation : Thus, The Congo ( once one, than, divided into two).

@@michaeldelisieux what? The reason the Congo was so brutality governed was to keep the people in line, back then and even now the Congo is one of the most diverse places in the world and in order to keep the people in line brutality was the way to go, just check the current government that's barely able to manage the country and that's with foriqnen soldiers patrolling the nation as apart of the African Union peace task force or as apart of the UN peace task force.

@@michaeldelisieux You have no idea what you 're talking about. European standard of living has nothing to do with the corrupt African leaders like Lumumba. And btw, the whole continent right now is owned by China.

Mercenaries have no legal rights as prisoners of war rights, if capture they can be executed on the spot.

MajorSamm covers this I’m pretty sure

@@19MAD95all of the footage he uses is from an excellent documentary called Blood and Guts Africa. It’s from the 60’s but has been uploaded onto youtube

​@@galacticupfan7386 the near original Italian version is a lot better

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Even a road and a residential area in Kuala Lumpur city, Malaysia are named after him.

​@@khairulhelmihashim2510 Because he's involved in the formation of Malaysia too

It's been a long time brother. I'm sorry.

And south africa

he has. check the video list.

The Bush war ?

@John Smith A nation built on ethnic supremacy and inequality that does not care for all its people can never be great. It's collapse was inevitable.

I'm stoked!

Its full name today is Peoples’ Friendship University of Russia named after Patrice Lumumba. There are also streets named after him in several Russian cities as well as in Belarus, Kyrgyzstan and Ukraine

@@DaveSCameron useless culture war comment that is misplaced

@@DaveSCameron To be clear my comment wasn't intended to start a blame-game war.

@@vividlyMe your comment is historical, whoever gets tripped out about it belongs in a more ideologically biased space on RU-vid, not a purely historical channel.

You mean the chaos and evil of “colonization.” Not “decolonization.”

@@conzmoleman colonization brought civilisation to africans. Since europeans left chaos resulted. You dont accept it ? Then help africans to evolve and see by yourself.

It is sad to see that things spiral out of control in the end. One could only imagine how many lives could have been spared if all of these leaders sit down and find consensus

@@juandeag5550 true

Thank you for your input. We non-Africans always thought that Lumumba was the most uncompromising among the nationalist leaders, and that he was the one the Belgians feared and hated the most. But there may be many layers to the story. However, the fact that it was Lumumba who was finally killed and not the others suggests that he must been the most charismatic anti-colonial leader in Congo at that point of time. BTW, I thoroughly enjoy the two songs Table Ronde and Independence Cha Cha by the Grand Kalle.

@@meghdiip8503 Kasa-vubu and Abako started the fight for independence before even Lumumba formed a political party. For insistance, when the table started, Lumumba was still in jail in Congo while Kasa-vubu was the main leading figure from the Congolese side. It was actually Kasa-vubu and other Congolose delegates that insisted that Lumumba should be freed and joined them in Bruxelles. Kasa-vubu was also the one to demande that decision of the table ronde o be binding for Belgian government and parliament ( the table ronde was convened first as something more consultative). Kasa-vubu and his party, Abako were also the one asking for independence to be the soonest and power to be transferred to Congolese without delay. But to be fair, most of Congolese delegates did ask for independence the soonest but Kasa-vubu claimed questions like the organization of post-independent Congo were Congolese matters and can be discussed between Congolese people once the Belgians were out; thus Belgium should just give independence immediately without worrying about how the Congolese should governed themselves. Also, at that time, ABAKO was a much bigger and well-known party while the party of Lumumba, MNC-L, was only about a year old. Plus, ABAKO participated in local elections in 1959 and won many seats, Kasa-vubu was himself a mayor of area in the capital which bears his name today. MNC-L did boycott those elections. But I think the big difference between Lumumba and Kasa-vubu in the beginning was that Lumumba was not only nationalist in the outside but also in the inside. Kasa-vubu's party for insistance ABAKO, acronyme for alliance of Kongo people was ethnically based and started as a cultural association of Kongo people, an ethnic group of the West of DRC. In the 1960 elections, ABAKO presented all its candidates and won all its 12 seats in the region inhabited by Kongo people. ABAKO was also federalist and at some point Kasa-vubu himself fought for the independence of the region inhabited by Kongo people only, claiming that independence of Congo should come gradually and each region should be its own state which could be afterward be united with the other if their people want to. Lumumba's party did not have a regional basis and presented itself as a party for all Congolese. Even its name means Congolese National Movement. Lumumba was from the centre of DRC, the Kasai province but the region where its party was more popular was province oriental, in the north Est ( where Lumumba was trying to flee when he was captured). MNC-L had 33 seats in 1960 elections all over around the Congo. Lumumba was a unitariste since he thought federalism would lead to secession through tribalism. Thus, Lumumba had strong internal enemy among the federalists who aligned behind Kasa-vubu. People like Tshombe or Kalonji who were strong federalists or very ethnically oriented despised Lumumba but easily get along with Kasa-vubu. By the time Congo became independent, Kasa-vubu was seen more moderate than Lumumba by external powers and Lumumba was suspected of communist sympathies ( two parties allied with Lumumba were clearly socialists as was his deputy, Gizenga). Kasa-vubu and Lumumba in rivalry on who was the the real boss ( it should have been Lumumba since it was a parliamentary system). I think the combination of all those factors led to the death Lumumba. The UN even supported Kasa-vubu in the crisis between the men and did its best to isolate Lumumba.

​@@jordydinga1167 Half of the votes of Lumumbas party came from the region of Stanleyville. It was not a trully representative party of Congo as a whole. And his centralist approach would have the result of concentrating the power to himself. The votes in the elections went according to ethnic lines. Below I copy from a previous comment that I made months ago: "Second of all, there was a widespread violence against the Whites, that 's why Belgium intervened. Up until then, both governments were cooperating and Belgian interests were secured in Congo. By Lumumba himself nevertheless. He had shown no real inclination about nationalization policies. His radicalization, on this matter, came afterwards. Third, Catanga and South Casai secession. Who caused it? The dominant narrative is that behind these moves were the Belgians and Union Miniere. No mention to the fact that the authorities as well as the people in these regions, didn’t want to send their money to the central government, as Lumumba insisted they should. If not mistaken, Catanga was providing well over 70% of the budget or together with South Kasai. Something like that. That was the main reason. According to Lumumba’s plan, all provinces would send to the central government their income (from taxation etc etc) and then the money would be redistributed by the government (and in that case Lumumba) back to the provinces according to government’s wishes. The rest and NOT ONLY Catanga and Kasai, did not accepted that. That was very crucial to the unfolding of events in Congo. The federalist approach that was adopted in 1964 constitution, should have been adopted in 1960 in first place by Lumumba and his government. Why didn’t he? Kasa-Vubu’s fears of dictatorial intentions by Lumumba were not unfounded. His was authoritarian in his rule inside the Congolese government. And he was becoming more and more. And yes Soviet Union’s unilateral actions were despicable, enabling the massacre of Baluba people in Kasai. As for Simba Rebelion: Soviet Union in 1960 supported Congolese territorial integrity but in 1963 did not. That’s a doubleface policy."

Was looking hoping someone mentioned it, it really is a good movie. One of my favourites overall and of war films specifically.

Its UN Propaganda lol, at least with Zulu its shows the natives pov. But all Katangans are blood thirsty Mercs (not true, about 40% of the command were Mercs, but most were soldiers fighting for there home).

Heroes who were betrayed by their own government.

I agree. Siege of Jadotville is propaganda. The Irish were occupying a uranium mine belonging to the people of Katanga to prevent their being able to have an income. The Katangese were defending their homes and mine from foreign invaders. Meanwhile the other Irish contingent was in Elizabethville committing war crimes. The Indian army acted equally appallingly. The whole UN role in Katanga was shameful and the people of that region are still suffering. Next time you hear an Irishman or an Indian complain of British imperialism, remind them of Operation Smash and Grab (Morthor), of their murder of innocent civilians, and how they were instrumental in the subjugation of Katanga. By keeping the distant regions under the heel of Kinshasa all these years, the UN has ensured the worst human misery since WWII. Congo should never have been one country.

Heroic defence by very brave men ,let down by their own government

Majority of the jadotville squad lived in Athlone barracks

@@adamoneill6193 yes most served in the 6th Bn in Custume Barracks, majority came from the Western Command while a few came from specialist units like the Signal Corp in the Curragh. The 2 guys I served with were in the barracks in Athlone.

He was a great man and it is an insane tragedy that the CIA murdered him.

@@conzmoleman He was a communist and was killed by Congolese authorities who didn't want a communist regime , that's a fact.

@@alfredosenalle9284 Communists are heros. And he was killed by the CIA. Your “facts” are dead wrong. This is not some mystery. We literally know the agent who had his corpse in his car trunk for days.

@@alfredosenalle9284he wasn't a communist, he appealed to the communist when the UN failed to order the Belgian troop withdrawal which wanted Katanga to succede because its leader was pro-Belgian and didn't mind the French and British companies that were taking its raw resources

Who/what is ‘Roland the headless Thompson gunner’?

@@GazB85 a song by warren zevon

@@GazB85 a Legend/Story about a Mercenarie, that fought in Congo, died there and then fought in other places after it, etc.

@@petervonfroster8i Oh right, thank you for explaining. 👍

probably because you saw those edits

letsnot make our hands durty and we blame switserland bty

@@gerald1495 more like because that’s who Katanga relied on. The Congo herself had ONUC. There were Belgian paratroopers came to rescue the hostages in Stanlyville and Paulis. 🇺🇳🇨🇩🇧🇪

Don't forget communists , communists , communists.

Being insulted, eating paper, and then being shot is "as vile as it can get"? Not saying it's good, because obviously it isn't, but if I were to choose a way to die, I could think of far worse.

Not surprised at all, Africa and its madness has “plausible deniability” written all over it.

His mistake was to escape from the protective custody of the UN peacekeepers; he may not have regained power but his life would have been prolonged.

@@Mixcoatl I think murder is pretty high up there

@@nyantakyibannor9328 True. But Mr. Lumumba was probably too proud and patriotic to simply remain under protection while his country was in peril.

Same with Ireland

good one.

The comment section will be filled with Apologist and Dilawan trolls/fanatics spreading toxicity.

Van Owen can go to hell

@@TheColdWarTV That son of a...

I see you too are a man of culture...

ok...one of the best comments on RU-vid.

Norway's bravest son

Where is your proof that the CIA was involved ?

The torture and murder itself wasn’t encouraged by Belgium, however the perpetrators did have support from Belgian authorities in most other affairs in the Congo crisis.

Why can't you guys leave Congo alone?

@@princechangwook6019 You’re saying that like this one Belgium has much influence.

@@GazB85 nevertheless leave Congo alone

@@princechangwook6019 we’re talking about the 50s and 60s here. Most of the people involved in these events are dead and a lot has changed since then

@@sturm9087 nothing changed, till today the Belgian govt nor the Royal family have apologised to the Congolese people for the Belgian atrocities, you can't say things changed when nothing changed, if the Germans can apologise for their atrocities what's stopping Belgium? Well forget your apology just leave the people Congo alone if you have a bit of humanity in you

Kasa Vubu had no intention to cooperate

@@KailamiMwiinga One could argue that. Indeed, Kasa-vubu wanted to be the " boss" and did not leave everything to the prime minister as it should have been done. But it is easy for us to judge the dead who can't defend themselves.

@@jordydinga1167 Even when alive, he made it clear that he was never interested in a power sharing structure. Thus, Lumumba to prevent war choose him to share power instead of the runner up in the election... From all evidence, that man (Kasa Vubu) never got the chance to do what Mabuto did to the Congo...

@@KailamiMwiinga That's a shame. Because without Lumumba, Kasa-vubu would never be president.

Hey, do you know maybe who led the invasion of Kasai? I know Lumumba ordered it, after Soviets delivered some necessary equipment. From what I understand it went well in Kasai, but badly on the border with Katanga. And there was a lot of killing among Balubas. But I saw in a movie Mobutu get blamed (movie about Lumumba), but no info on who actually led the troops.

@@beorntwit711 I don't know unfortunately. But it is unlikely that Lumumba or even Lundula or Mobutu ( the commander and chief of staff of the army) ordered the killings. I think the Congolese Army which probably behaved as in a conquered territory after it took the capital of South Kasaï responded disproportionately to what they perceived as acts of insurrection among the luba population. It is sad that in many places in the world, my country included, fighters and non combatants ( even kids and eldery) are treated the same way by the other side. To be fair, as usual no side was very clean in the conflict: Kalonji arrested lulua people and his militia killed many before the arrival of the army. Also, latter three of Lumumba companion among which the provincial president ( governor) of provincial oriental would executed in south Kasaï after being arrested and sent there by the central government.

@jordydinga1167 You have any information on the people that were murdered by the communist Simba .?

It It wasn't for colonialism

You need smart and hardworking people. Not africans.

@@jpcaretta8847 you're racist

Delusional fantasy

Give it a few generations. People will change in the Congo. Attitudes will change

The congolese were the ones to be most distrustful of western nations. Expecting them to be naive ppl is not realistic from that old man, but his bias talks.

Adding this book to my list, thanks for sharing!

yes please

In many decolonialization stories, there are always some factions demanding for immediate power transition due to deep distrust/ political maneuver. To make matters worse, these groups resorted to armed insurrection, which further being complicated by clandestine support of foreign powers.

That fact wouldn't fit the narrative.

@@kurtobermeyer3356 The truth rarely does.

@@kurtobermeyer3356 and what narrative is that?

Exactly, I found him to be a good man and likable character but not street smart

I mean he didn't really have a whole lot of other options, seeing as the west wouldn't support him due to their unfounded idea that he was going to turn Communist

How do you know there was a role? Because everybody says so?

They had a big hand on that.

@@thomasnoukos9284 try reading The New York Times Magazine 2 Agust 1981 THE C.I.A. AND LUMUMBA. Sydney Gottlieb role in the CIA's attempt to assassinate Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba of the Congo. He took a vial of poison to the Congo with plans to place it on Lumumba's toothbrush in the summer of 1960. Devlin on his mission, the station chief, according to his later testimony, had an ''emotional reaction of great surprise.'' As he put it: 'I looked upon the Agency as an executive arm of the Presidency....Therefore, I suppose I thought that it was an order issued in due form from an authorized authority. On the other hand, I looked at it as a kind of operation that I could do without, that I thought that probably the Agency and the U.S. government could get along without. So it was not something everybody says there was an active plot to poison Lumamba.

​@@thomasnoukos9284it was well documented, read the book Leopolds ghost for a thorough coverage among other atrocities (to put it mildly)

Rhodesia forever

@@ViktoriyaNevski it's always the furries

anything to do with Rhodesia attracts all the chuds unfortunately

@@gerald1495 It's always the weebs.

@@ViktoriyaNevski I got news for you

Even under the best of conditions, those people will fail.

@@paul123ggggggggg which ‘people’?

@@paul123ggggggggg "those people". You sound like one of "those" people who talk about others without any real knowledge. Just remember "those" people STILL control more of the earths resources than you'd be comfortable to admit.

@@fromhigherground4272 Africans of course.

@@paul123ggggggggg and who are the successful ones then?

Lmao, i guess south africa and algeria shouldnt bother trying to gain independence eh?

You are not even African

South Africa such as Zambia, Angola, and Mozambique would be way better off getting independence on later dates rather than becoming communist corrupt regimes.

Scotland?

there wasn't really any other sides beside western imperialism and that