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"Conservatives" Who Need to be Converted 

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@christopherflux6254
@christopherflux6254 8 месяцев назад
The weirdest thing is when Andrew Tate is held up as a ‘Conservative’ Icon.
@danieljosephbestguy5990
@danieljosephbestguy5990 8 месяцев назад
Yes, and he happens to have the worst of both types of bad conservatives.
@sivad1025
@sivad1025 8 месяцев назад
This is what happens when we judge acts by results instead of intent. Tate seems "right wing" because of his anti-feminist views. But those views stem from the exact same principles as feminism. His entire framework is liberal
@tookie36
@tookie36 8 месяцев назад
How isn’t he a conservative?
@sivad1025
@sivad1025 8 месяцев назад
@@tookie36 Because he thinks all things are morally permissible if there's consent
@tookie36
@tookie36 8 месяцев назад
@@sivad1025so you’re saying conservatism is Catholicism ?
@carstontoedter1333
@carstontoedter1333 8 месяцев назад
Holding your political allies to account is incredibly important. This video is huge
@BuddyLee23
@BuddyLee23 8 месяцев назад
Just keep an eye out for those who would intentionaly seek to ‘divide and conquer’ by fostering division amongst those who would otherwise be allies.
@Justin_Beaver564
@Justin_Beaver564 8 месяцев назад
I'm not a political ally of either side. This is the problem of a binary system that tries to force everyone into one of only two camps. I'm an athiest and a free market Objectivist.
@carstontoedter1333
@carstontoedter1333 8 месяцев назад
@@Justin_Beaver564 good for you?
@petri2767
@petri2767 8 месяцев назад
The pope endorsed Dialop Transversal, a marxist organization, just a week ago.
@shmeebs387
@shmeebs387 8 месяцев назад
Seeing so many so-called conservatives celebrating Dave Rubin's surrogate child was so disappointing.
@gavasiarobinssson5108
@gavasiarobinssson5108 8 месяцев назад
A child birth is always worthy of celebrating
@williamjohnson3093
@williamjohnson3093 8 месяцев назад
@@gavasiarobinssson5108 Unless its enabling multiple sins against nature
@solaris6070
@solaris6070 8 месяцев назад
I do get the impression that the group of online anti-liberal, anti-woke, that have arisen since around 2016 try not to rock the boat with each other too much and want to keep a semblance of unity. I'm thinking of Dave Rubin, Ben Shapiro and Daily Wire folk, Jordan Peterson, Weinsteins, Prager etc.
@williamjohnson3093
@williamjohnson3093 8 месяцев назад
@@solaris6070 there’s a thread tying some of those individuals together
@shmeebs387
@shmeebs387 8 месяцев назад
@@gavasiarobinssson5108 The birth of the child is a great thing, but the trafficking of a baby from a rented womb is evil. It's not the kid's fault. Nothing against that little boy, but the way in which his "parents" acquired him is disgusting.
@luke2346luke
@luke2346luke 8 месяцев назад
"Conservative" seems to just mean "not Left" nowadays.
@tookie36
@tookie36 8 месяцев назад
Like Trent says conservatives lack an objective stance on what they are consvering. Mainting public lands and caring for the environment was once conservative values. The labor movement and unions were once conservative values. But now it’s abortion, anti lgbt, and tax cuts for the wealthy
@deancorso6693
@deancorso6693 8 месяцев назад
Conservatives are on the Left. They're just driving the speed limit.
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 8 месяцев назад
John Doyle has pointed out this exact, long-running self-destructive phenomenon.
@skylinefever
@skylinefever 7 месяцев назад
I never got conservatism, because I mocked the cognitive dissonance of small government deregulation and financing the massive war on drugs. So what if some idiot wants to smoke weed in private? Self determination for all!
@skylinefever
@skylinefever 7 месяцев назад
@@nisonatic Sure, policing is a core function. Masses just argue that when there is no victim, there is no crime.
@rcbmmines4579
@rcbmmines4579 8 месяцев назад
Excellent video sir. This is a lesson a lot of us Catholics and Christians in general need to learn. While it is arguable that there is a lesser evil, we must remember we are neither tied to conservative or liberal ideology or parties. We are tied to Christ. Knowing this, we can see that both indeed have their own sinful beliefs and actions, and thus we can avoid being lead astray.
@stevendouglas3781
@stevendouglas3781 8 месяцев назад
This is a shameful false equivalency. You must forget the evil we’re up against.
@rcbmmines4579
@rcbmmines4579 8 месяцев назад
@@stevendouglas3781 Like I said, you can argue there is a lesser evil, but as the video already covers, conservatism is not free of evil either, and it is not equivalent to Christianity. Believing so will only mislead you, like you may be right now. Do not forget who you truly are and who you're truly fighting for. Or else you will continue to shame others when you have shame yourself.
@bad_covfefe
@bad_covfefe 8 месяцев назад
@@stevendouglas3781 Conservatism contains the same ideology that produced progressivism, that's why conservatism is just progressivism a few decades behind the curve.
@stevendouglas3781
@stevendouglas3781 8 месяцев назад
@@rcbmmines4579 you’re talking absolute foolishness. The type of foolishness that demoralizes people ostensibly on your side. Opposing abrotion is not a “lesser evil” than abrotion. Opposing ch!ld sex surgery isn’t a “lesser” evil than promoting it. You didn’t give any examples because you know your point is unreasonable. So what is evil about the right? They don’t h8 wh te ppl enough? What? Like i said, just another desperate false equivalency because it makes you feel better i guess. Whenever the right begins to gain ground in the culture people like you always pop up to tell them to calm down and that they’re abstractly equal to their ideological opposites. No bueno.
@stevendouglas3781
@stevendouglas3781 8 месяцев назад
@@bad_covfefe that is a dialectic which is being purposefully played out but it is not inherent to the beliefs. Conservatism is trying to conserve the culture of western Christianity in America. That culture had already been warped from the enlightenment, but the desire to turn back to the societal foundation of Christ is what being right wing is. There are millions of goofy libertarian / liberal types who think they’re on the right because leftists annoy them, but that doesn’t matter.
@ΕλέησονΑμαρτωλόν
@ΕλέησονΑμαρτωλόν 8 месяцев назад
The African Catholic Church is a light to the World.
@princessjess2915
@princessjess2915 8 месяцев назад
Amem
@Lucas.33.
@Lucas.33. 8 месяцев назад
Africa will become the Rome of the 21-22st century
@anonjohn7571
@anonjohn7571 4 месяца назад
It really is. Cheers from a Roman Catholic in the US ✝️
@Sarge226
@Sarge226 2 месяца назад
@@Lucas.33. pump the brakes there lmao
@YoLkE-22222
@YoLkE-22222 Месяц назад
​@Sarge226 think he ment that africa will become the center of catholicism in the future, not literally on the same level of rome
@stillcantthinkaboutaname5396
@stillcantthinkaboutaname5396 8 месяцев назад
Wow, this editing is insane. Haven't watched much besides the beginning of it but man, good job Trent.
@censoredanon8928
@censoredanon8928 8 месяцев назад
Although, I think we could have done without some of the examples. 🤣
@sitka49
@sitka49 8 месяцев назад
Don't thank him, thank his staff.
@redmarth4931
@redmarth4931 8 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for this video! It is great to hear Catholics pushing back on these conservative errors
@Jessaba
@Jessaba 8 месяцев назад
Yes! More honest conversations about this topic needs to be had across the Christian & conservative community. As a former black liberal who is now Orthodox Christian, I found that as my faith and relationship in Jesus Christ grew my world view naturally became conservative- and my place and purpose in life only stands on Christ- which bring clarity regardless of the which way the political wind blows. I also love hearing from Catholic brothers & sisters (like Trent and Lila Rose) and reading Catholic literature (like Theology of the Body) which stands firm in the faith and have a well rounded approach to livening out their faith in Christ in this upside down world. Thank you Trent for putting a spotlight on this multi faceted issue! I need to find more ppl like this in my own life who are able to be this honest, introspective.
@canibezeroun1988
@canibezeroun1988 8 месяцев назад
Hey, I was in a similar boat. I'm a Catholic now but grew up as the most conservative one in my family. How did you end up Orthodox?
@Jessaba
@Jessaba 8 месяцев назад
@@canibezeroun1988in a nutshell I grew up in an American cultic church that didn’t have the real Christianity. In my 20s I started asking questions and I was met with push back. Needless to say I informally walked away and participated in worldly cares becoming liberal in my ideology. Then after I became pregnant out of wedlock with my first child I became compelled to raise him with a faith because obviously my life was not going down an ideal path. And I owed to my innocent child to get my life together. Unfortunately I was drawn to Islam because it seemed the believers had a moral high standard of living and I liked the idea of rejecting “white Jesus”. After practicing that for a few years (thank God for His Grace) He allowed me to see that it was false, empty and hatful. I had a friend who I could be honest with about feeling spiritually lost and in need of the real God. The friend told me about the beautiful history of Orthodox Christianity- something I never new existed due to my upbringing. So I took it upon my self to inquire with a priest and then became Catechized. About a year later I was baptized thank you Jesus! I married that friend and now we have children together! I still feel like a baby in the faith but I’m love with Jesus , learning and practicing. I’m most thankful that I get to raise my children in a Christian church and in true Christian faith.
@Jessaba
@Jessaba 8 месяцев назад
@@drjanitor3747 I guess when I speak of true a Christian faith I think of true orthodoxy faith in Christ our savior who died rose and assented to heaven and will return…you know the creeds. I understand the churches are not in communion and that Catholics believe that they have the fullness of the faith but not to say that others outside the church don’t have real faith. I believe that a true Christian has faith in the truth of Christ our Savior. Nevertheless, I love my Catholic brothers and sisters and I pray that one day all churches will be in unity as they once were. Thanks for sharing!
@patrickbarnes9874
@patrickbarnes9874 8 месяцев назад
@@drjanitor3747 You demonstrate why we non-Catholics continue to be unconvinced by Catholic claims. Your justification for making your claim that your church is the truth faith is a quotation from the leader of that faith. It's like when a Christian tries to use Bible verses to prove God exists. No atheist is going to take that seriously. I think, as a general rule about most things and not just religion, if your goal is to change minds then you need to meet those minds where they are at.
@cerebrummaximus3762
@cerebrummaximus3762 26 дней назад
God bless you and much love from a fellow Eastern Orthodox Christ, Glory to Christ, love from Bulgaria ☦✝️🇧🇬❤
@1901elina
@1901elina 8 месяцев назад
5:33 that is so profound. And you're right. I'm a recent convert from atheism. I was living in LA and I was sick of the values of everyone around me and started admiring Christians. Never thought I would believe in it literally but eventually found enough evidence to actually believe Christ rose and it's all true. And yes, there is no fuller way to embrace good values than a full conversion and accepting the truth of Jesus Christ. I've been blown away how the world makes so much more sense. Before my conversion as much as I didn't like the secular values around me - the hook up culture and lewdness especially, there was no real or at least easy way to support the values I wished to instill in the world around me. There's studies on how monogamy works better and such, and philosophical arguments on why hook-up culture sucks, but it's so much easier and more definite once you realize and can assert that we're simply created a certain way for certain things, and that what God wants for us and has revealed to us is what's best for us. It has also even made me embrace these values more strongly, and some new ones I didn't really have before, and I like it lol. It feels more right.
@Charlotte_Martel
@Charlotte_Martel 8 месяцев назад
I share your disgust with the degradation of modern secular values but am firmly in the agnostic/atheist camp, so I have to ask: what empirical evidence caused you to convert to Christianity instead of any other faith? I certainly haven't seen any.
@1901elina
@1901elina 8 месяцев назад
​@@Charlotte_Martel My first reply got deleted. It seems to do that when I refer to a podcast recommendation maybe thinking it's spam. But I'll try one more time... So I'm going to paste what I've said before in reply to someone else, as it's easiest. My apologies if it's a lot of information at once, but it's a matter of converging evidence. It's hard to describe just one thing, as the resurrection is a historical event, so you can't do a double blind placebo controlled study to prove it just like with any other event in history, and you can't put the supernatural in a test tube. But the following converging evidence has made me accept that it's true, and I'm growing stronger in that conviction every day. I'm happy to elaborate and share resources for any of the following, if you'd like to further the discussion my electronic male (intentionally misspelled mb my comment won't get deleted lol) is on my padzhe lol. But here comes that list: Shroud of Turin (Jesus's burial cloth and my favorite piece of scientifically studied evidence. Pints of Aquinas episode on it with Andrew Dalton is amazing), Eucharistic miracles, how soon after Jesus's death the gospels and Paul's letters were written when for other biographical historical writings in that time it would take centuries and they were written within living memory of many witnesses and the creed in 1 Corinthians 15 is said to have been formulated within a few years if not months after Jesus's death, the fact that we have way more manuscript copies for the gospels than for other events at the time, historical accuracies and other unintentional evidence in the gospels and book of Acts scholars like John Bergsma have analyzed, the fact that people who claimed to see the resurrected Jesus were killed rather than renounce it (it's one thing to die over something you believe to be true and don't know better like a suicide bomber, it's another thing to die over a conscious lie, like Peter getting crucified upside down for saying he saw and had a meal with the resurrected Jesus), testimonies of supernatural experiences either demonic or encounters with Jesus that converted atheists, new agers, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, etc (you may not find this convincing, but it's evidence nonetheless. Testimony is evidence in a court of law for example), the Marian apparitions at Zeitoun that millions witnessed over three years that we have pictures of and recorded miraculous healings from - Jimmy Akin has a great Mysterious World episode on it, and probably more I'm forgetting. Oh also the fruits of Christianity - how the Catholic church pioneered science and civilization. As Jesus said, "judge them by the fruits."
@jboswell1768
@jboswell1768 8 месяцев назад
I am a black American and I recently returned to the fullness of the Catholic church and I must say, *THANK YOU TRENT* for what you said at 7:14 . I'm a pretty conservative guy politically and yes, plenty of people scream "racism!" at nothing, but that doesn't mean legitimate, vile racism doesn't exist. Unfortunately, it pains me to say this, but the fact is there are too many legitimate racists in the "trad Cath" movement. We have people like Nick Fuentes calling himself a Catholic and countless racist memes spreading around Traditional Catholic spaces. It's just as wrong as the other end of the spectrum, where heretical Catholics push pro-lgbt lifestyle garbage. Thank you again for calling this out and being fair.
@haloking9809
@haloking9809 8 месяцев назад
Yes!!!! Too many in the church love to rant about Jewish power or race mixing . And forget about the heart of the gospel. Not to mention the tremendous sin of scandal it has on the church who end up thinking we are a bunch on nazis. I mean i was watching Nick on a debate with Protestants and when he started spewing his schizo theories , the Protestants. Asked each other: “ Wow the Catholic Church believes some wacky stuff” and it totally turned them off from hearing about the truth SMH
@concernedcitizen2350
@concernedcitizen2350 8 месяцев назад
Welcome back to the faith!
@ebenade1
@ebenade1 8 месяцев назад
Most online trad caths are simply practicing a LARP. Sucks that they are attempt to associate with people like Trent
@KolchaksGhost
@KolchaksGhost 8 месяцев назад
⁠​⁠​⁠@@haloking9809what did Christ call them? The synagogue of who? Children of what? How is pointing this stuff out ignoring the “heart of the gospel”? Does the “heart of the gospel” say let your people go extinct, or not to notice when those in power hate you? Interesting position to take
@KolchaksGhost
@KolchaksGhost 8 месяцев назад
@@ebenade1 Trent’s the one who’s LARPing
@simplydanny
@simplydanny 8 месяцев назад
Low key one of the best episodes. I’ve noticed how conservatives are always a few steps behind liberals. The stance on social issues changes. Also the two types of conservatives really puts proper labels to what I’ve been experiencing.
@stcolreplover
@stcolreplover 8 месяцев назад
This is so lame. If you think this, you fail to understand what conservatism is.
@utopiabuster
@utopiabuster 8 месяцев назад
You didn't even watch the video! Thanks for playing.
@TheMacDonald22
@TheMacDonald22 8 месяцев назад
​@@stcolreplover I know what conservatism isn't. It isn't what our nation was founded on (presuming you're from the US, but most other countries work as well), it isn't individualist "God, weed, and guns", it isn't 95% of the so-called conservatives that make up our government. If you support any one of these propositions then you are NOT a conservative.
@davidhawkins5329
@davidhawkins5329 8 месяцев назад
​@@stcolreplover& So your solution of ideas is ................. ? ( Crickets )
@TheThreatenedSwan
@TheThreatenedSwan 8 месяцев назад
Trent himself goes with the Overton window shift on a number of issues unfortunately, but there are also areas where a wide amount of views can be acceptable depending on the circumstances. Like on economics as a Catholic it's acceptable for the state to have a wide variety of amounts of control, but we should be pragmatic about the effects. If the state controlling health care or taxing multi-millionaires/ billionaires at a high rate had an extremely good effect, we should be for it, but neither do
@delicious_seabass
@delicious_seabass 8 месяцев назад
Finally, someone who's actually saying what I've been thinking. Conservatives have abandoned their principles and values to be more favorable to others - so basically became liberal. We need to stop bending the knee to these people and start standing up for what is true. I'm so sick of walking on eggshells or tiptoeing through the tulips with these heathens because their feelings might be hurt. Bring on the intellectual crusades.
@therealong
@therealong 8 месяцев назад
@delicious_seabass And what is true, according to you in 2024?
@velkyn1
@velkyn1 8 месяцев назад
happily, you cultists are more at war with each other than anyone else.
@delicious_seabass
@delicious_seabass 8 месяцев назад
@@velkyn1 Is that so? Last I checked, the left is a giant unwinnable competition to decide which group is the most victimized.
@mrmr2488
@mrmr2488 8 месяцев назад
Wrong. It’s more like liberals became conservatives to subvert it. First off, Dave Rubin is a homosexual jew. Jews reject Christ and absolutely hate Catholics. There is nothing traditional or conservative about him, he is a grifter. Trent and everyone like him will always fail in their mission and their groups will always be subverted because they don’t mention the Jewish question. To be catholic and to ignore Jewish history is astounding to me. It’s why it’s so hard to take Trent or people like Andrew Wilson seriously. Christianities number 1 enemy is Judaism, always has been and always will be.
@crusaderACR
@crusaderACR 8 месяцев назад
"If you belong to the world, the world would love you as its own. Because you don't belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world - therefore the world hates you." - John 15:19 You showed your honesty, convictions, and willingness to fight for the Truth. If you ever stop getting hate in the comments you're doing something wrong. Speak kind, loving and gentle... with brutal honesty. Take heart, brother, only the brave get to earn Heaven.
@jamessilcock7158
@jamessilcock7158 8 месяцев назад
As an English Christian, I grapple with the notion that expressing a desire to preserve the demographic and material well-being of my people in their homeland through prudent immigration policies is deemed immoral or an undue exaltation of my ethnic identity. It is crucial to clarify that advocating for such preservation does not equate to fostering hatred based on race. In the eyes of Christ, we are all one, connected through a shared spiritual bond, yet we must also acknowledge the divine purpose behind our unique identities and roles. God, in His wisdom, has ordained distinct roles for men and women, just as He has bestowed upon nations their unique identities. As stewards of His creation, we bear the responsibility to safeguard the welfare of our families, recognizing that this duty extends to our broader community and tribe - an extension of our familial ties. Embracing the divine order, we acknowledge the importance of nurturing the nations that God has ordained, ensuring their rightful stewardship for the greater glory of His plan.
@AK_Catholic_Traditional
@AK_Catholic_Traditional 7 месяцев назад
Look up statistics of Wh1te Population worldwide and tell me who’s the minority. It’s fine to be very strict with such policies, Church has never opposed that. It’s not hate, it’s the Preservation of own people. Look who’s-pulling the strings while you’re at it 🤥👌🏻
@danielgreen6547
@danielgreen6547 6 месяцев назад
@jamessilcock7158 Well stated.
@ketchupboi6922
@ketchupboi6922 5 месяцев назад
“Go and form nations.” God seemed to forbid the idea of one mankind and global culture and government, instead forcing the separation of peoples. I agree with you.
@ButterCupLetsgoColts
@ButterCupLetsgoColts 8 месяцев назад
Let’s convert VIVEK Ramaswamy. He sounds like he could be close if given a Trent Horn defense of the Catholic Faith
@CatholicWithaBiblePodcast
@CatholicWithaBiblePodcast 8 месяцев назад
He went to a Catholic school, so he's already somewhat in the know.
@petery6432
@petery6432 8 месяцев назад
I think an issue is that because there are a lot of people who refuse to vote for him because he's a Hindu, if he were to convert, people would accuse him of converting for political reasons, even if it's sincere.
@nathanielus5296
@nathanielus5296 8 месяцев назад
He needs to get away from hindu demons
@ButterCupLetsgoColts
@ButterCupLetsgoColts 8 месяцев назад
@@nathanielus5296 He has my vote but because I like what he offers as commander in chief and his plans, but yes that’s really my only hang up. Hopefully with enough of our prayers it will be ok
@zach415
@zach415 8 месяцев назад
@@CatholicWithaBiblePodcast a lot of former Catholics went to Catholic schools. That really isn’t an indicator of whether or not he was ever Catholic
@lo5182
@lo5182 8 месяцев назад
This was long overdue. Thanks Trent for your words of wisdom. Conservative does not mean pro-Christian.
@toffeenut1336
@toffeenut1336 8 месяцев назад
True. Not everyone wants to be a martyr.
@CMA418
@CMA418 8 месяцев назад
Try telling that to Trump. The guy who cleared the oppressed from the streets then held A Bible upside down for a photo op.
@sonnyjim5268
@sonnyjim5268 8 месяцев назад
That was a good story about Martin. I would just say, the so-called "catholics" that were racist to Martin were not upholding our Church's teaching but were in defiance of it. We don't judge an ideology by it's abuses but by it's tenants.
@snokehusk223
@snokehusk223 8 месяцев назад
those Catholics don't owe someone that isn't hisof their kin privilages that their kin enjoys
@marvalice3455
@marvalice3455 8 месяцев назад
It is not a Christian virtue to sell our children, or to say "whatever I have that you could benefit from, is promised to strangers" I get, that we must love the foreigners, and the poor, and our enemies. But if we forget that our first duty is to our families, than our faith is in vain.
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 8 месяцев назад
​@@marvalice3455Functional Moral Balance.
@joshua_wherley
@joshua_wherley 8 месяцев назад
Whenever someone identifies as conservative, I want to ask what is being conserved? "Put not your trust in princes, in mortal man, who cannot save. When his spirit departs, he returns to the ground; on that very day his plans perish." - Psalm 146:3-4
@keymaker2112
@keymaker2112 8 месяцев назад
Generally some component of the existing political/social order.
@tayzk5929
@tayzk5929 6 месяцев назад
Same with Christians. What have they conserved?
@joshua_wherley
@joshua_wherley 6 месяцев назад
@@tayzk5929 depends on who you ask. The Orthodox have conserved virtually everything that makes them who they are. The Catholics have to a lesser degree, Protestants even less.
@elijahculper5522
@elijahculper5522 5 месяцев назад
Money for rich people. That’s what gets conserved by conservatism. That’s all that gets conserved. Any other thing that gets talked up by conservatives is negotiable. They’ll trade away being pro life. They’ll trade away traditional marriage. They’ll trade away supporting free speech or the right to raise your own kids the second it conflicts with the bottom line of the fabulously wealthy. To be a conservative is nothing more or less than to support an oligarchy of unaccountable billionaires. The rest is just aesthetics.
@Foreign0817
@Foreign0817 8 месяцев назад
Just because someone is right-wing doesn't necessarily mean they're conservative. ☝️
@CMA418
@CMA418 8 месяцев назад
“The church” is filled with CHRINOS. Easiest way to spot them is they frequently quote the Bible yet rarely quote Christ.
@skylinefever
@skylinefever 8 месяцев назад
@@CMA418 As I like saying, when will they be Christ like to money changers?
@MrMarkjams
@MrMarkjams 8 месяцев назад
Historically, it does. The terms right and left come from the French Revolution when the conservatives(people who wanted to conserve the monarchy) sat on the right of the chamber and the revolutionaries (who wanted to eliminate the monarchy and religion) sat on the left of the chamber.
@IIIUMlNATI
@IIIUMlNATI 7 месяцев назад
Just because someones conservative, doesnt necessarily mean theyre christian either.
@IIIUMlNATI
@IIIUMlNATI 7 месяцев назад
Just because theyre christian doesnt mean theyre politically literate either.
@MontyRL
@MontyRL 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing the story about St. Martin and especially about the different expressions of Catholicism. I remembered hearing criticism about how Mexicans celebrated their mass by a fellow member in the English mass. Reminds me about the uniqueness of worship all across and how they are all valid and beautifully made
@kingofthorns203
@kingofthorns203 8 месяцев назад
One holy Catholic and apostolic church! :)
@jonatikaWwe
@jonatikaWwe 8 месяцев назад
What’s wrong with mexican Mass?
@MontyRL
@MontyRL 8 месяцев назад
@@jonatikaWwe He was being a bit racist and was essentially saying that the English mass was superior but in a condescending way
@MontyRL
@MontyRL 8 месяцев назад
@directsound4962 I don't see any issue with any mass and their unique expressions. They are all valid and cater to the cultures around the world. Even when TLM was vastly popular, there were the Byzantine churches that practiced differently
@rx0102
@rx0102 8 месяцев назад
@@MontyRLThe Byzantine Rite is traced back to the very first centuries of Christianity. Mexicans strumming guitars or dancing in Aztec dresses at Mass is a post-1965 aberration. We did not need that stuff to convert millions of Mexicans in a few years, we just needed the TLM and trust in God and His Mother.
@nickman8423
@nickman8423 8 месяцев назад
Fully agree and I shouted "THAT'S RIGHT!" Near the end when you said to look out of Europe for healthy Catholic church, I'm European and Italian to be precise, it's dying and obsessed with traditions more than the essence of catholicism, there's a ridiculous amount of clericalism and a blind belief that the local community is still Catholic, something the hurts evangelization for the sake of perpetuating a catechisms that falls on deaf and borderline atheist ears... Sorry for the rant but as a theology student and catechist I just wanted to vent.
@susiem.2068
@susiem.2068 5 месяцев назад
Same with France, but I think the whole world can see we're struggling...
@nathanielus5296
@nathanielus5296 8 месяцев назад
11:45 Pope Pius XI also stated that race was a fundamental, honorable and *necessary* value of human society and that the Church had contributed to maintaining Germany's racial identity. Pope Pius XI did not oppose the concept of nationalism and at no point did he declare that opposing miscegenation was "sinful".
@stcolreplover
@stcolreplover 8 месяцев назад
Do not place race in the place where Almighty God should be.
@nathanielus5296
@nathanielus5296 8 месяцев назад
​@@stcolreplover Who said we're trying to do that?
@snokehusk223
@snokehusk223 8 месяцев назад
correct, race is crucial aspect to one identity and white nations have a right to keep being white, saying otherwise is sinful yet Trent either doesn't realise that or he is intentionally going against this, maybe due to his jewish background, you must always be wary of them
@snokehusk223
@snokehusk223 8 месяцев назад
​@@stcolreplovernobody did that in the first place
@stcolreplover
@stcolreplover 8 месяцев назад
@@nathanielus5296 wignats definitely do.. Literally other comments are bringing up Trents “race” and placing it with higher value than his Catholic Faith.
@Prayingfrog
@Prayingfrog 8 месяцев назад
I really respect what you're getting at here, but frankly it doesn't seem to me that this view will leave anything to conserve. Culture, national identity, and ethnic makeup should not be placed in the place of divinity that is absolutely true, but these concepts cannot be discarded. The fact of the matter is that my great grandparents who were steeped heavily in their Irish and Italian traditions were much stronger in their Catholic faith than nearly all of my modern Catholic peers or myself I would say. Their faith was reinforced and informed by their culture, national identity, and ethnic background. We should acknowledge and accept our fellow brothers in Christ from other cultures and backgrounds, but to emphatically state that these things do not matter and need to be fully repressed doesn't seem to map accurately onto reality.
@alisterrebelo9013
@alisterrebelo9013 8 месяцев назад
Can you give me the timestamp of where Trent said that culture, national identity and ethnic makeup, do not matter and should be fully repressed?
@Prayingfrog
@Prayingfrog 8 месяцев назад
Upon further consideration and rewatching the segment of video in question, my characterization of his argument as advocating for the full repression of those things is incorrect, he does not state this. I will attempt to state my case more accurately, I think that ethnic group cohesion, culture, and national identity are important components to maintaining faith and community amongst groups of people. The underlying proposition of Trent's point in this segment of the video seems from my listening to be saying that our common Catholicism will be sufficient to hold together and sustain us and that these factors aren't important. The church in the west is declining in adherence and attendance, from things I've seen in my life (at least as an American) this appears to be due at least in part to the breakdown of cohesive cultural and ethnic identities. I bring up my great grandparents because when they and their parents first arrived here in America their culture, family, and ethnic background all synergized with and supported their continued adherence to their Catholic faith. In the modern lives of most people these things have been either heavily suppressed or simply don't exist any longer. Based on this video I can't say for certain how Trent feels or would respond this exact line of reasoning, namely if what I'm saying would be considered morally deficient in the same vein as some of the examples he brings up, who I again will fully grant were saying reprehensible things in these examples. I think we can have a middle road of being ethnically and culturally conscious of where we come from and what the faith of our peoples were and should be and simultaneously not advocate for the abortion of black babies as some sort of moral good. @@alisterrebelo9013
@alisterrebelo9013
@alisterrebelo9013 8 месяцев назад
@@Prayingfrog Thank you for your rare humility (at least online) to revisit your initial thoughts. For context on my comment that follows, I'm non-white, from a previous Portuguese colony, and didn't arrive in the West until I was 18. I agree with your observations regarding your ancestors, that community helped them bind to each other and Christ. Pope St. Pius X, cognisant of this reality, had priests specially trained to travel with Italian migrants to the USA to ensure that the migrated community would be able to retain and continue their religious life. The context of this though is that at the time, the mass everywhere in the world was in one language, Latin. Now, we can barely get enough priests to say English Masses let alone in other vernacular. Your point is taken. There is however a bigger misstep that the Church as a whole is guilty of, that Trent is actively addressing but needs support in. That is in the realm of apologetics. My great grandparents were probably illiterate, my grandparents were literate to Grade 5ish, my mom to grade 10, my dad was the first to go to University. My grandparents and earlier were quite content to follow the clergy without question. My parents onwards, we started questioning, them more respectfully and me, my uncle and aunt less so. The lack of *access* to apologetics of any kind meant that I became athiest, and my uncle/aunt became Protestant. We have lost so many souls because the Church didn't recognise sufficiently or early enough that the people they were educating would turn those educated brains against them. I came back to the Church through divine intervention in my life, my aunt and uncle have not. So what am I trying to say? Trent is not making a claim about diluting our individual cultures. He's trying to establish a minimum commonality between all peoples I.e. to be in Christ. The kind of commonality that allowed humanity to realise that slavery was a grave sin and that equality before the law is correct, even if individual outward differences are real. My claim is that we need better apologetics, in all languages, as this is a greater threat to us, especially places that are currently Catholic bastions like the Philippines and Latin America. Well catechised Catholics are not advocating for abortion of black babies, not sure why your brought that up or how that fits into your whole view.
@Prayingfrog
@Prayingfrog 8 месяцев назад
@@alisterrebelo9013 Hey, thank you for responding. I think after a bit of discussion here we're more or less in agreement. I appreciate you taking my point on the matter of the maintenance of faith communities amongst ethnic groups. I agree with you as well that in the modern world where information is highly accessible there do arise many questions about the faith and that many times Catholics are unfortunately not prepared as they should be to answer these questions for themselves or others, and I agree that it is very important that we as Catholics learn these details and lines of argumentation so that we can defend our faith. The main reason I watch Trent and other Catholic apologetics channel is to learn such things and make sure I don't make a fool of myself when I do talk to people I know who are not Catholics about these topics. The last point I made regarding black babies being aborted was in regard to the person featured in Trent's video that posted a meme about black babies being aborted. My point being that I think you can believe ethnicity matters for building and maintaining common faith traditions but not cross the rubicon into being highly prejudiced or racist towards other groups.
@brianaalece5314
@brianaalece5314 8 месяцев назад
Trent, I cant express how happy my heart is seeing this video. This was so needed. God bless you.
@rosemariekury9186
@rosemariekury9186 8 месяцев назад
Very good video. We lived in Alabama in the early seventies. Blacks there said they’d rather live there when they knew what people thought rather than in the eastern states where people acted like they disapproved of segregation but didn’t want blacks in their neighborhoods or in their schools.
@solarpower3504
@solarpower3504 8 месяцев назад
And in a truly Christian nation, black people wouldn’t have to choose between ‘racist and proud’ states and ‘secretly racist’ states. 😂
@stevendouglas3781
@stevendouglas3781 8 месяцев назад
Telling only one group they’re forbidden from having a racial identity will not end well.
@snokehusk223
@snokehusk223 8 месяцев назад
Trent is woke as well on this issue and racist because he is okay with white countries becoming not white. We aren't racists, they are. They just don't see it with their egos thinking everyone is equal in God's eyes so any differences on Earth are meaningless.
@dontewithdragons
@dontewithdragons 8 месяцев назад
Ephesians 4:29 Identities are fine as long as it doesn't violate that. Unfortunately many groups weaponize their identities out of fear and pride. They don't even want to admit it's a sin, so why would they want to inherent the kingdom of God with those souls in it? God knows what's in our hearts.
@GothVibeWars
@GothVibeWars 8 месяцев назад
@@snokehusk223 It's pretty hypocritical too. Saint Pope Pius XII has said: "It is quite legitimate for nations to treat those differences as a sacred inheritance and guard them at all costs."
@kevinhodges867
@kevinhodges867 8 месяцев назад
You can have it, but if it stops you from loving others as Christ commands, it won’t help anyone.
@d.h.5407
@d.h.5407 8 месяцев назад
I’d say we’re all members of the human race, and Christ commands us to recognize our common humanity. To fixate on one’s racial identity and group is fascism and a distortion of God’s creation.
@supremeoverlordtickles5325
@supremeoverlordtickles5325 8 месяцев назад
Race is not something that should be swept under the rug. Race is real and as Catholics we have to honestly contend with the consequences of what that means. Catholics can advocate for their own race and their own people, and still treat others as our siblings in Christ and bring others to Christ and his bride the Church. Love of God includes a healthy appreciation of the differences between the people he made and the uniqueness that those differences bring. I want to be a faithful Catholic first, but that does not mean I have to reject my race or my ancestry or allow others to destroy it to be one.
@mattr.1887
@mattr.1887 8 месяцев назад
As long as you're not white, that's fine. - Most Christian leadership
@capraagricola
@capraagricola 8 месяцев назад
Agreed completely. Trent appropriates Gallatians 3:28, but in reality what his argument tries to do is identical to using Gal 3:28 to say there is no such thing as male or female
@Wilkins325
@Wilkins325 8 месяцев назад
Thankfully nothing in this video suggests you need to abandon your ancestry. However, race idolatry is an over-correction to the left's rhetoric. Too many so called "Catholics" are getting caught up in this trap and going overboard.
@WhiteChocolate74
@WhiteChocolate74 8 месяцев назад
Get over yourself
@WhiteChocolate74
@WhiteChocolate74 8 месяцев назад
Im convinced milk people who go on about this kind of thing want to be chocolate
@sanf7191
@sanf7191 8 месяцев назад
I am a apolitical person, I am simply Catholic. I am for everything that is moral and against everything that is amoral. When conservatives are right, I support them; when left wingers are right, I support them too. A Christian cannot have a ideology other than Jesus Christ's Gospel.
@siggoph727
@siggoph727 8 месяцев назад
This is the way. All political parties fall short of what Jesus asks of us.
@InquisitionFren
@InquisitionFren 8 месяцев назад
This is a platitude that doesn't mean anything
@apracity7672
@apracity7672 8 месяцев назад
You have used "amoral" incorrectly. In this context, you should have employed "immoral". Amoral is something is morally neutral. There is nothing rational in being against things that are morally neutral
@sanf7191
@sanf7191 8 месяцев назад
@@apracity7672 it was a mistake. Imoral was what I wanted to say. Thank you.
@SydneyCarton2085
@SydneyCarton2085 8 месяцев назад
True, the tricky part is, who do you vote for knowing either choice will have it's moral compromises? Do you calculate the lesser evil/most good? God help us.
@E9819_
@E9819_ 8 месяцев назад
Love this so much, you’re always able to be that breath of fresh air. Whenever I’ve been asked my political persuasions i’ve always just said “I’m a Catholic” as it’s as it’s ultimately the church’s teachings that I base my political beliefs on. It’s also a lot easier to say that than “I’m socially conservative and for the most part economically liberal”
@SeasideDetective2
@SeasideDetective2 5 месяцев назад
Because of the way the word "liberal" has shifted in meaning, "economically conservative" and "economically liberal" now mean the same thing, unless you're referring to trade protectionism. "Economically progressive" is the term you're looking for, and even that word can be misinterpreted. Also, I wish people would distinguish between social conservatism and cultural conservatism, because they aren't always two sides of the same coin. The way the words are used in America today, "social" refers to public matters and "cultural" has more to do with a person's ethnic or regional identity. It's entirely possible to be socially conservative yet culturally liberal (for example, the rich person who lives in a gated community and leads a bohemian lifestyle behind closed doors) and even more possible to be both socially liberal and culturally conservative (the socialist or social-democrat who campaigns against drugs, pornography, etc.).
@TCZ17090
@TCZ17090 8 месяцев назад
Conservatism is acting on a snails pace because they’re only unified under a vague blanket of concepts but the lack of personhood leaves no anchor for the right to rally against. Trent is right that we need to convert big speakers so there’s true unity among the conservatives so that we can make actual progress
@uiliumpowell4684
@uiliumpowell4684 8 месяцев назад
One who follows the Buddha’s teaching also understands what is wholesome and what isn’t wholesome.
@SirBlackReeds
@SirBlackReeds 8 месяцев назад
No, it acts at a snail's pace because of all the petty infighting and the leadership has stagnated.
@smittywarbenyagermangensen4860
@smittywarbenyagermangensen4860 8 месяцев назад
that wont bring any unity
@Justin_Beaver564
@Justin_Beaver564 8 месяцев назад
Religious conservatives are a small minority. This is a fact. They only cast an outsized shadow because they've attached themselves to the Republican Party. No such thing as monolithic conservative or progressive movement. Never has been.
@marvalice3455
@marvalice3455 8 месяцев назад
​@@uiliumpowell4684not good enough.
@ycar1477
@ycar1477 8 месяцев назад
Very well said! I didn't know how to express this feeling/thoughts and Trent does it so well! Thank you!
@honeybud585
@honeybud585 8 месяцев назад
"Don't look to the church in Europe, look to the church in Africa." Why wouldn't I look to my own culture? What is wrong with exalting the traditions of my own people? This idea that we must deny ourselves any kinship or pride in our race is incredibly pernicious. Some of the issues mentioned in this video do exist (worshiping race over Christ, denying sanctity of life, etc.), but those are fairly uncommon when compared to this colorblind creed that so many conservatives espouse. Denying racial identity deracinates people and leaves them open to attack which is exactly what we see today. Surely one can have a healthy relationship to their racial identity here on Earth while also maintaining their relationship with Christ.
@megrose711
@megrose711 8 месяцев назад
This is more anti-White propaganda. The European race is already hated enough but it's expected to continue to deny it's right to in-group preference and allow all the other races to play victim to it. It's so tiresome. I'm so disappointed in Trent, how subversive.
@namapalsu2364
@namapalsu2364 8 месяцев назад
Why would I look to a Church that surrenders to the globalist LGBT agenda instead of the Church that holds tight to the gospel?
@EldenRingBuildsArchive
@EldenRingBuildsArchive 8 месяцев назад
Please ignore this RU-vid grifter, I assure you that this guy doesn’t even know why the Crusades were started (he’d probably be even okay with Muslims kidnapping women in order to force a marriage, like how it happened in Southern Italy before said Crusades), he’s professing himself as a Godly man, just like how every single antiChrist would do, search for Pope Pius 12’s words, his antiWhite words have no business with Christianity
@SirBlackReeds
@SirBlackReeds 8 месяцев назад
They can't have a healthy relationship to their racial identity if they fail to understand it. The white-black racial dichotomy isn't sustainable and it ultimately serves race hustlers better than ordinary people.
@shiny7958
@shiny7958 8 месяцев назад
Our fathers in faith would laugh at the idea of color blindness
@marioj.lomuscio1367
@marioj.lomuscio1367 8 месяцев назад
Love your work Trent. Your ministry has been a real blessing for me and my family. Thank you 🙏 ✝️
@CMVBrielman
@CMVBrielman 8 месяцев назад
15:34 The Church in Africa has saved the Church in Europe from itself before and will hopefully do so again.
@Jose-ru2wf
@Jose-ru2wf 8 месяцев назад
if only it could do something about the rape rate too. It has skyrocketed in Europe in direct correlation with illegal immigration from Africa.
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 8 месяцев назад
​@@Jose-ru2wfIt's not their best who are migrating. It's their society's worst.
@davitz77
@davitz77 7 месяцев назад
I must say the assertion that Sub Sharan Africans are better Christians than Whites is absurd. Cardinal Sarah and many others point to their rampant horrid theology. It is similar to Latin America. It is Catholic only in the name and many times is not even Christian at all.
@Hoonter101
@Hoonter101 7 месяцев назад
African Christianity is not close to what it is in Europe. It's practically another religion.
@larryromano7510
@larryromano7510 8 месяцев назад
Believing that America should remain a white majority nation or to oppose race mixing does not mean that you view orher races as subhuman.
@snokehusk223
@snokehusk223 8 месяцев назад
he is woke
@larryromano7510
@larryromano7510 8 месяцев назад
@@snokehusk223 not even. Just kinda liberal.
@stcolreplover
@stcolreplover 8 месяцев назад
Why are you sperging on Race?
@larryromano7510
@larryromano7510 8 месяцев назад
@@stcolreplover who is sperging? I just pointed out a rather obvious logical error in Trent’s video.
@Corbin814
@Corbin814 8 месяцев назад
As a biracial American Catholic this is ridiculous. America is a melting pot, no race is better than the other and it doesn't matter which race is the majority so long as they don't discriminate against the minority and vice versa. There's no reason to oppose race mixing, why do people oppose this? I'm not saying people can't have preferences but the idea of thinking that race mixing is somehow evil is dumb. Am I and my siblings the product of a bad idea, a part of the new world order as some Catholics have even claimed when talking about race mixing? No, that's ridiculous.
@brandontymkow1182
@brandontymkow1182 8 месяцев назад
I am not disregarding African Catholicism, but to say "dont look to Europe for an orthodox Catholicism" seems like you are "cutting bait". To me it is just as silly to say, "don't look to Africa for orthodox Catholicism". Obviously, European Catholicism is going to be different in some ways from African Catholicism; they are an expression of different cultures, races and their inclinations. Europeans should have the right to defend European expressions of Catholicism in their countries, Africans the same, and Americans also should have this right, without assuming that they are going to be falling in to race idolatry.
@stcolreplover
@stcolreplover 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, “look to Africa” is very Boomer Catholicism. Perhaps we Western Christians should fight back for Christendom in our own countries and not rest on out laurels because African Catholicism is doing okay (for now).
@nathanielus5296
@nathanielus5296 8 месяцев назад
Ironically, Cardinal Sarah would disagree with Trent on this topic
@emouselOregon
@emouselOregon 8 месяцев назад
Regarding the question of orthodox and vibrant faith (which what he was comparing, Trent is 1000% correct about European vs African Catholicism.
@brandontymkow1182
@brandontymkow1182 8 месяцев назад
@@emouselOregon "vibrant and orthodox" will look different in Europe and the Americas.
@Charlotte_Martel
@Charlotte_Martel 8 месяцев назад
To non Catholics, the singular aspect of the Catholic Church they are aware of is the beautiful artwork of the Renaissance. Abandon that, and the Catholic Church becomes the Baptist Convention but with a ban on birth control and divorce. Sorry, but I don't see that resulting in mass conversions.
@fritzimperial9210
@fritzimperial9210 8 месяцев назад
Would you consider people wanting to preserve their culture and ethnicity racist? Ie French people who want to stop immigration to preserve the French people?
@SenorCinema
@SenorCinema 8 месяцев назад
yes they are racist
@mgvilaca
@mgvilaca 8 месяцев назад
Would you rather be friends with white atheists or black Catholics? Because the Catholics probably share more with your culture than the white atheists
@SirBlackReeds
@SirBlackReeds 8 месяцев назад
They don't need to stop immigration to do that. They just need to keep their damn borders in order.
@shiny7958
@shiny7958 8 месяцев назад
Mfw Cardinal Sarah racist for saying immigration will be the death of Europe
@prkp7248
@prkp7248 4 месяца назад
Do you think that culture is something that we are born with? If a kid is found and raised in France by French family in French culture, and then in his adulthood we can found that his biological family is 100% Algerian, do you think that his culture is French or Algerian?
@KnowLoveServeHim
@KnowLoveServeHim 8 месяцев назад
YES!!! Thank you, Trent, for bringing this to light!
@stephenjohnson7915
@stephenjohnson7915 8 месяцев назад
Boy, this talk is long overdue. Sadly, many “conservative Christians” are conservative first, or worse, consider the two essentially synonymous.
@John3_16_
@John3_16_ 8 месяцев назад
Trent Trent Trent…. Stop using the phrase “people of color”. It’s using THEIR language. Their language is us vs them language. Just say “black” “Indian” or whatever race you’re trying to say.
@noahfletcher3019
@noahfletcher3019 8 месяцев назад
if youre going to say indian then you cant say black,i suggest, indian, african american, nigerian etc, be specific.
@Dollface98
@Dollface98 7 месяцев назад
Most “ people of color” I know don’t even like to be called that lol
@layabout
@layabout 8 месяцев назад
This is an extremely important video. I came to the same conclusions during my journey to Christ and the Church. This is what people, but young men in particular, need to hear in our fallen world.
@CMA418
@CMA418 8 месяцев назад
They are falling for the Church of Trump. 🫤
@kevinhodges867
@kevinhodges867 8 месяцев назад
Superb. Well spoken as usual Trent. Thank you!
@sageseraph5035
@sageseraph5035 8 месяцев назад
Andrew Tate Types
@bluecomb5376
@bluecomb5376 8 месяцев назад
Like St. Martin de Porres, let us also look to the first African American priest Venerable Augustus Tolton and ask for his intercession! Such an incredible story.
@Gmx92
@Gmx92 8 месяцев назад
In the vast oceans of empty suits in the world, rubin's suit might still yet be the absolute emptiest
@alisterrebelo9013
@alisterrebelo9013 8 месяцев назад
Rubin helped me awaken to the madness of the left. A journey that led me back to faith. I'm not the only one. Have some charity for the man, he may yet come to Christ.
@VideaVice25
@VideaVice25 8 месяцев назад
​@@alisterrebelo9013it's not lacking in charity to point he's an unconsistent mess of a life. If he can't see it himself and everyone cower in admitting it, how is he supposed to notice what's wrong with him?
@alisterrebelo9013
@alisterrebelo9013 8 месяцев назад
@@VideaVice25 Neither you nor I can be 100% confident of the intent of the OP. I interpreted the post to be harsh to Rubin, if I'm wrong in that assessment, I'll admit it when OP clarifies. I didn't say that no one should tell Rubin his life is a mess, I whole heartedly agree with Trent in this video. I'm trying to remind the comments section to remember that people like Rubin who are kind people and still in their sin need an approach that follows up with kindness and charity once they pronounce their sins to them. Rubin is having to re-learn the OT, and as you would know, many Jews will not touch the NT. It takes a special type of apologist that can reach someone like Rubin. I hope someone like Trent or Jimmy Akin can one day speak with Rubin.
@Gmx92
@Gmx92 8 месяцев назад
I saw Rubin's show literally almost a decade ago and he was trying to be sort of a third position-ist with a left leaning inclination. His fan base began to lean more right, so he brought on more right leaning guests and the cycle led to him today. He frequently misuses vocabulary, doesn't have a deep understanding of economics or international relations, he's just an average gay guy who realized he could market himself to the right more profitably
@alisterrebelo9013
@alisterrebelo9013 8 месяцев назад
@@Gmx92 Thank you for providing some clarification on your position. What is your own view on God and Jesus?
@valorantsucks60
@valorantsucks60 8 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for this video Trent. I've been thinking about this problem a lot recently and this video came out at the perfect time. Good job
@Dylan_Devine
@Dylan_Devine 8 месяцев назад
I like how Sargon articulated conservative values on the Lotus Eaters podcast. Even though he's an agnostic and not a Catholic, he clearly defines the types of traditional values that so-called "Conservatives" need to conserve and differentiates them from the modern glib view of conservative politics.
@poetryofmath
@poetryofmath 4 месяца назад
Trent...I'm thankful for you and you voice. Keep it up you and your family are in my prayers.
@simonlaird6231
@simonlaird6231 8 месяцев назад
ANY discrimination is non-catholic? So if I prefer to marry someone from my own ethnic group, I can't be a Catholic?
@skylinefever
@skylinefever 8 месяцев назад
I joke that nowadays, any preference is considered valid except in group preference.
@prkp7248
@prkp7248 4 месяца назад
You shouldn't prefer to marry this type of race, hair color, language used or anything like that. You should marry individual person, because you love them and you want to share your life with this person. To be open for love is to be open for God's will. Love between man and women in catholic church is not see just as some kind of earthly contract equal to merchant exchange, or like choosing this apple or that orange in the market. Marriage is a holy sacrament, holy contention between one man and one women created because of shared love. How can one belive that love is divinely inspired and at the same time think that it can't transcend human created boundaries like distinction between, for example, Apache and English?
@matthewcauthorn9731
@matthewcauthorn9731 3 месяца назад
You are a Master Trent, fight on.
@vtaylor21
@vtaylor21 8 месяцев назад
Conservative movement needs to evaluate what they truly believe and promote. They are talking out of two sides of their mouth.
@skylinefever
@skylinefever 8 месяцев назад
@@kingofthorns203 I often say "The conserve line go up on Wall Street."
@amberq9974
@amberq9974 8 месяцев назад
Insightful!! Thank you 🙏🏽. God Bless you and Our Lady keep you🙏🏽🕊
@bbseal6174
@bbseal6174 8 месяцев назад
We recognize the dignity and spiritual equality of all men, and like the second Vatican council says we also recognize that we are not the same. European nations aren't FOR non-europeans. That doesn't mean we don't love them. We just want to assert that this is OUR nation. A nation isn't merely for a people, a nation IS a people.
@turnmeondeadman4221
@turnmeondeadman4221 8 месяцев назад
🗑️🗑️
@Wilkins325
@Wilkins325 8 месяцев назад
While I think you are right, I am hesitant to officially agree since the vast majority of people who hold this view tend to be vehemently racist.
@AK_Catholic_Traditional
@AK_Catholic_Traditional 7 месяцев назад
@@turnmeondeadman4221🤢
@whatever1068
@whatever1068 8 месяцев назад
Great video, this message needs to be spread.
@Kevigen
@Kevigen 8 месяцев назад
I did not have Trent DESTROYING online Trad wives with FACTS and LOGIC on my 2024 bingo card haha!!
@nathanielus5296
@nathanielus5296 8 месяцев назад
shut up and repent
@Kevigen
@Kevigen 8 месяцев назад
​@@nathanielus5296🫨
@nathanielus5296
@nathanielus5296 8 месяцев назад
Btw Trent, I'm suprised you didn't mention Ben Shapiro or Dennis Prager...
@diegomorales-wade261
@diegomorales-wade261 8 месяцев назад
he has in the past ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Xeg21MjZBYk.html
@alisterrebelo9013
@alisterrebelo9013 8 месяцев назад
Genuine question, what would be an example of a moral stance that either of them hold and an inconsistent political stance?
@silent_shout
@silent_shout 8 месяцев назад
Type in “Dennis Prager on pornography” Watch any Ben Shapiro video on Gaza.
@silent_shout
@silent_shout 8 месяцев назад
Type in “Dennis Prager on pornography” Watch any Ben Shapiro video on Gaza.
@silent_shout
@silent_shout 8 месяцев назад
Type in “Dennis Prager on pornography” Watch any Ben Shapiro video on Gaza.
@dsha2006
@dsha2006 8 месяцев назад
Yep, Catholics be calling out everyone. The social conscience. What did u think about Daily Wire's "Lady Ballers" movie? They unfortunately copied the inappropriate/raunchy stuff from past movies bc "that's what people actually want to watch" according to Jeremy Boreing. Reminds me of the conservative beer marketing you discussed. This isn't fighting back against the culture, it's creating your own brand of it.
@SydneyCarton2085
@SydneyCarton2085 8 месяцев назад
Yeah I could not watch it. Shut In was good.
@dsha2006
@dsha2006 8 месяцев назад
I thought Shut In was decent. Was bored out of my mind by the movie they acquired with Carey Elwes (had high hopes). I'm also hopeful for the pen dragon cycle if they're not trying to prove a political point. Here's my hypothesis: it's challenging for conservatives to make excellent art because there's ambiguity and nuance to it. It's subject to interpretation and might be interpreted in a way they don't want it to be. But then you might fall into the trap of producing propaganda. That said, I really enjoyed some of the Angel Studios productions. I look forward to Cabrini.
@sean5388
@sean5388 8 месяцев назад
I agree that actual, vulgar, racial hatred is repulsive. All ought to be treated equally under the law. That being said, important policy decisions are being made based around the false idea that disparities in outcomes (wealth, crime stats, etc) between racial groups are due to socioeconomic reasons, when they're likely actually caused by genetic or (less likely) cultural factors. Decades of affirmative action type policy have failed to accomplish anything, and "diverse" hiring (as opposed to meritocratic) can result in real damage/danger to people - for instance with railroads and airlines - these companies have an imperative to choose the best, not just the "diverse". It can actually be dangerous to let people labor under the delusion that there aren't genetic differences between racial groups. I do agree this needs to be done without hurting the dignity of the individuals in these groups - we must always remember that statistics paint with a broad brush, and individuals need to be judged on their own merits. I also do not think there's any issue with a preference against racial mixing or a preference for racial homogeneity in your country. God made various peoples and gave them their own nations - I think it would be a tragedy for a worldwide homogenization to destroy these various peoples. Identity is also an important part of people's lives (most non-whites have a strong racial identity and ingroup preferences, whites are the only ones who do not currently, liberal whites have an outgroup preference), and mixed race children can have a hard time navigating the world or understanding who they are, or where they came from. In the worst cases they can resent one or both of their parents. I don't think that mixed race couples or their children are worth any less - but I don't think it is wrong to advise against it. In any case, it is important to not forget that every human possesses a soul and is deserving of equal dignity, and like said in the video, to avoid elevating race to the level of exaltation.
@Wilkins325
@Wilkins325 8 месяцев назад
Advocating against race-mixing CAN be immoral if its meant to imply the inferiority of other races. For example, many online Catholics are starting to say racemixing is bad because it tarnishes the pure and superior white DNA, rather than for the reasons you provided.
@EldenRingBuildsArchive
@EldenRingBuildsArchive 8 месяцев назад
@@Wilkins325 The “superiority” stuff has nothing to do on the matter, and it’s actually the difference between WN and WS. You’re going against the will of God, that bothered Himself to change every single languages after the destruction of the multicultural Babylon so that races would disperse. What kind of rationalizations does Trent have on the matter? Because none is going to help him on the matter. What kind of culture does a mixed people have? Nothing, rootless people to do the bidding of the next ruler of “Babylon”. Do you honestly think it’s a coincidence that the left, progressively embodying satanic “virtues” are the one pushing it at all cost? Or do you still believe that the America of today has the same moral compass of 100 years ago? People like Trent are false shepherd
@SirBlackReeds
@SirBlackReeds 8 месяцев назад
@@Wilkins325 Both are stupid. The reality is that racial purity is a pipe dream. For example, Spain was conquered by Carthage, conquered by Rome, conquered by the Visigoths, and conquered by the Moors. After all of that, do you really think that Spain can be racially pure? Heck, you'd be hard-pressed to find a single person in England who's purely Briton. Let's also not forget that Mediterranean cultures became as rich as they were in the first place because of the various cultural exchanges, which includes intermarriage.
@cryotheum
@cryotheum 8 месяцев назад
@@SirBlackReeds Well to give fairness to the argument against race mixing, opponents to the idea rarely argue against mixing within the same racial phenotype. England being conquered by the Danes and the Normans thus resulting in 'race-mixing' is hardly comparable to what most people think of today as 'race-mixing'.
@SydneyCarton2085
@SydneyCarton2085 8 месяцев назад
​@@Wilkins325a bulldog is not inferior to a golden retriever, step away from the false inferior/superior viewpoint and look at it from the compatibility/incompatibility view. The high rates of failure among interracial marriages tells that story. Before the 1960s, there were far more successful marriages in the black community and the white community. Not saying an interracial marriage can never be successful but to put down the optimal choice is foolish especially when most people have that choice to marry someone they will have a high chance of marital success with. And yes, races generally do have different temperaments, for better or for worse. Global statistics demonstrate this.
@jothompson1903
@jothompson1903 8 месяцев назад
St Martin de Porres pray for us!
@MrJoebrooklyn1969
@MrJoebrooklyn1969 8 месяцев назад
Somehwere between idolizing your race ans whitw guilt is the right answer.
@vinciblegaming6817
@vinciblegaming6817 8 месяцев назад
It’s ok to be white.
@blubonion
@blubonion 8 месяцев назад
In the first section, Mr. Horn makes reasonable points that applied to specific people and he gave notable examples, but in the second section about "racist Conservatives" he only shows a few memes and brings up a guy who has since disavowed the examples that he gave. I think this contrast demonstrates that there are either hardly any "racist Conservatives" or Mr. Horn is beating around the bush.
@snokehusk223
@snokehusk223 8 месяцев назад
he has an agenda or is ignorant
@emouselOregon
@emouselOregon 8 месяцев назад
By it's nature being racist is not conservative but there are plenty of people who consider themselves conservatives who are racist and misogynist. If you don't see them you aren't looking in the right places. They are slowly dying out but plenty of racists still exist (in all races).
@creeperrobot6859
@creeperrobot6859 8 месяцев назад
@@emouselOregon They exist, but they're not really mainstream. He decided to talk about this instead of, idk, one of the most influential "conservative" voices, Ben Shapiro?
@KM-ec2qv
@KM-ec2qv 8 месяцев назад
Trent, you mention no-fault divorce as a moral problem right before the 3 minute mark. I understand the issues with no-fault divorce... but I'm a Catholic convert (since college) and the ability to file for a no-fault divorce was a lifesaver for me. I didn't report my ex for physical abuse that began to occur after the wedding because I was ashamed and didn't feel I had enough "proof," and I ultimately left him because I learned that he lied to me and in his Catholic wedding vows (he didn't actually believe in God or intend to follow Church teachings on sexuality, abortion, etc.). I knew that the civil divorce has no true bearing on my marital status as a Catholic, but I needed to get a civil divorce in order to ask a Church tribunal to evaluate my case (which it did, and the purported marriage was found invalid). I'm now free and still fairly young. If I'd had to prove abuse in a court of law, I might still be litigating a civil divorce. I know the Church has traditionally opposed no-fault civil divorce, but is that actually a binding teaching? Obviously, I am grateful for having gotten through that step fairly quickly so that I could get to the "real court."
@patrickbarnes9874
@patrickbarnes9874 8 месяцев назад
What you're doing is like how pro-choice people routinely point to the 2% of cases of risky pregnancies in order to justify their desire to make abortion unrestricted. Similarly, in the riots of 2020 people justified them as righteous anger over George Floyd. We let a specific case of an unarmed person dying in police custody become a justification for thousands of people to loot and vandalize their cities. How many people have lost their jobs or businesses or been robbed or assaulted as a result? You're doing the same thing in defending no-fault divorce by pointing to a case of abuse happening but there being no evidence of it. Abuse is a cause for divorce already, so wouldn't the thing to do be to improve the system so that it doesn't fail those people rather than using this niche case as a justification for abandoning ALL responsibilities people have to make marriages work? How many children have to grow up in broken homes?
@springinfialta106
@springinfialta106 8 месяцев назад
@@patrickbarnes9874 Your reply has been shadow banned for no apparent reason. It can't be seen when you sort comments by Top Comments. It only shows up when you sort by Time.
@rt_huxley9205
@rt_huxley9205 7 месяцев назад
Then make marriage hard to obtain.
@snokehusk223
@snokehusk223 8 месяцев назад
you calling for conservation yet say it is racist to keep white countries white you are not conserving also than God wants many nations and one religion, not one nation and many religions nation is bound in blood, all other defintions are inclusive thus subjective
@stcolreplover
@stcolreplover 8 месяцев назад
“White” is a Protestant invention
@Corbin814
@Corbin814 8 месяцев назад
Many countries have people with ancestory from other countries, even the "pure white" countries. The United States is a melting pot of different races yet it's one of the greatest nations on earth. Regardless of your "race" we all share the blood of our first parents, Adam and Eve
@juansantiago2901
@juansantiago2901 8 месяцев назад
Modern nations where the result of liberal thinking during the French revolution. Self determinism was a mistake. Bring back the hasburg and ottoman empire
@nathanielus5296
@nathanielus5296 8 месяцев назад
​@@stcolreplover No
@stcolreplover
@stcolreplover 8 месяцев назад
@@nathanielus5296 sorry you can’t face truth. Modern views on race come from the so called enlightenment not the medieval world.
@ProjectMysticApostolate
@ProjectMysticApostolate 8 месяцев назад
Trent is simply the best at this. Thank you and God bless. 😎👍
@snokehusk223
@snokehusk223 8 месяцев назад
we can only be brothers by blood, Christ and life
@maryduhon9933
@maryduhon9933 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for mentioning Joseph Pearce. He is a towering figure in explaining the good, the true, and the beautiful in Literature.
@theurzamachine
@theurzamachine 8 месяцев назад
There's a new name for these "conservatives": "Fiscal Homosexuals"
@stcolreplover
@stcolreplover 8 месяцев назад
Bahahaha
@datvince2890
@datvince2890 8 месяцев назад
Fiscal Sodomites
@willberttom5755
@willberttom5755 8 месяцев назад
That’s hilarious
@mden2490
@mden2490 8 месяцев назад
I am so glad that Trent you brought this out to the forefront. I too have been thinking about this for a while now. For such a long time saying one was conservative entailed believing in God, opposing abortion, samesex marriages, etc., holding traditional Christian views. It now seems that some of the more well-known influencers are conservative athiets/ agnostics. I would like to think that the foundation for being conservative politically, should be about holding a traditional Judeo Christian viewpoint as the primary factor as that is what hopefully forms one's thinking towards inacting the correct policies across the spectrum.
@moonban4086
@moonban4086 8 месяцев назад
Not sure how you can talk about "Judeo Christian" when one half of that hates the other
@EldenRingBuildsArchive
@EldenRingBuildsArchive 8 месяцев назад
Seems hypocritical to me, you accept the word Judeo Christian, but draw the line at agnostics and atheists? Why? You prefer that Jesus is burning in hell right now for the crime of blasphemy, rather than an atheist that doesn’t believe in Him altogether? They are both irreconcilable.
@EldenRingBuildsArchive
@EldenRingBuildsArchive 8 месяцев назад
Seems hypocritical to me, you accept the word Judeo Christian, but draw the line at agnostics and atheists? Why? You prefer that Jesus is burning in hell right now for the crime of blasphemy, rather than an atheist that doesn’t believe in Him altogether? They are both irreconcilable.
@mden2490
@mden2490 8 месяцев назад
@@EldenRingBuildsArchiveNot sure why you posted your question twice? And for that fact not sure what your argument is. I was not drawing the line just making a point, that even Trent was making indirectly I believe. I used the Judeo-Christian viewpoint for my argument as that is what this country has been built on. Not sure about your “Jesus burning in hell” is all about? I believe that the Catholic Church holds the fullness of truth. Christ is the foundation. That’s where I stand. Also, not to long ago it was presumed that calling oneself conservative/ or for that fact republican meant that you were a Christian, and that has changed and that’s what Trent was pointing out, l believe. Being Conservative and a Christian was pretty much synonymous not to long ago, and it meant that you espoused to certain bedrock principles as a republican.
@AK_Catholic_Traditional
@AK_Catholic_Traditional 7 месяцев назад
By Judeo - Christianity you mean Chews nailing Jesus to Cross and Blaspheming him burning in excrement?
@thatwifeofhis7815
@thatwifeofhis7815 8 месяцев назад
Thank u for pointing out Pearl. Been seeing her still lauded by liturgical trad bros (and their wives) and I just smh.
@TheCounselofTrent
@TheCounselofTrent 8 месяцев назад
Those guys are just LARPing. -Kyle
@theolite360
@theolite360 8 месяцев назад
​@@TheCounselofTrent invite her to ask her about her views, those clips are out of context. I think she will gladly explain what she meant in those clips.
@littledrummergirl_19
@littledrummergirl_19 8 месяцев назад
@@theolite360they should have a debate/discussion on the Whatever podcast (just Trent vs Pearl, 1-on-1, not like the other debates that crashed and burned because it was 2-on-2 or 2-on-1) that way they can debate issues on a level playing field instead of having it be an odd power imbalance with him as the interviewer and her as the guest - I feel like it’d be a lot more interesting in the discussion/debate setup. I’d love to see Trent really dig into some of the stuff she’s said, and see if she can actually stick to her values, to me she comes off as major grifter vibes all for attention
@theolite360
@theolite360 8 месяцев назад
@@littledrummergirl_19 in a debate, Trent will defeat her, that is because Trent is a seasoned debater, she is not. Also, I've watched her videos to know that she will gladly concede a point if she is wrong. The reason why I asked Trent to interview her is because, those clips of her are a misrepresentation of what she says in the videos. The cheat in peace quote was I think from a panel where she says that ladies go after "these stars" and expect them to be like the average man. This kind of context is why I say Trent is missing a lot from what she is saying.
@thatwifeofhis7815
@thatwifeofhis7815 8 месяцев назад
@theolite360 Trent is supposed to change the rules for "these stars?" Cheating is cheating, no matter the context. Pearl concedes so easily bc she just says stuff for shock value/throws spaghetti at the wall and sheeps away if it doesn't stick.
@blackwood3243
@blackwood3243 8 месяцев назад
Trent, I had the same thoughts the 1st time I saw that calender, and the Trad Wife influncers.... It felt like I was the only one that thought this.
@cryotheum
@cryotheum 8 месяцев назад
Would love to see you debate/collaborate with Nick Fuentes. Love the both of you, think it would be great content but also instructive
@TCM1231
@TCM1231 8 месяцев назад
He has spoken on him in the past sadly Nick is guilty of many of the things in this video. I could provide you with some quotes but they have gotten me banned before just quoting him. Just know Pope Francis would not like what he has to say neither would any of the Popes. Not Peter not Francis, certainly not anyone perfected in Christ in the Beatific Vision. Race does not matter in the Kingdom please stop trying to make it matter on earth, it is a stumbling block to faith.
@cryotheum
@cryotheum 8 месяцев назад
@@TCM1231 I listen to Nick's show all the time, if you think what Trent spoke disapprovingly of in this video (that being hatred) is what Nick purports then I don't believe you know what his stances are.
@TCM1231
@TCM1231 8 месяцев назад
@@cryotheum I’ve listened to Nick’s show as well, he and his fans show obvious antisemitism and racism. I’ve been arguing with one “groyper” in this very comment section where he commented “aren’t you Jewish” that’s it. I’m just gonna let that speak for itself. Our lady is Jewish, Our Lord is Jewish. Salvation is of the Jews John 4 22 and while of course the Church has been established this does not give us rights to discriminate based off race especially not to the Chosen Tree which we are grafted onto through faith Romans 11. May God Bless you
@cryotheum
@cryotheum 8 месяцев назад
@@TCM1231 I appreciate your respectfulness and will try to reciprocate that. I don't want this to become a long comment chain, so I don't imagine I will reply beyond this. You are correct that many of Nick's fans are guilty of what this video denounces, which is unfortunate and likely due to them being quite young and immature, but with that said Nick tells his viewers that all people are made by God, should be judged on their merits, and ought not be discriminated against or persecuted for their race, etc. He has a sense of humor that offends people that are not accustomed to it and he holds opinions on race that are not socially fashionable in the current year, but he does not cross the line into hatred. He stays within the lines that the church allows for. Maybe he could do more to combat the behavior of the 'groypers' such as the people we've mentioned, but he can't be held entirely accountable for his followers actions.
@TCM1231
@TCM1231 8 месяцев назад
@@cryotheum I would not say that he is in the boundaries of the Church in some of his opinions, as evidenced by Guadium et Spes and I will take you on your word when you say that Nick affirms the imago Dei in all men I just wish he affirmed that more instead of wishing for taliban rule in America or complaining about “organized Jewry” and I don’t think we can chalk all of his comments up to a difference in humor. God Bless!
@gato_gc821
@gato_gc821 8 месяцев назад
This is what I was looking for...🙏👍. Thank you Mr Trent. 🔥✝️
@ElTonto_777
@ElTonto_777 8 месяцев назад
I think that people who hold the view of race being real with clear substantial differences is going to be a discussion that you cant brush away so easily with leftist terminology, especially with the religious right online. The one thing that is foundational to us is that the brotherhood of man must be united to Christ and his teachings.
@jimsande5428
@jimsande5428 8 месяцев назад
This is an especially good CoT video! Very good job!
@snokehusk223
@snokehusk223 8 месяцев назад
12:49 there is neither male nor female also, so that means man can marry man? no, cultural, racial and national differences stay on earth and should be celebrated
@americanhealthcaresurvivor
@americanhealthcaresurvivor 2 месяца назад
Desiring for America to return to its previous racial demographics is not racism. We were never intended to be a nAtIoN oF iMmiGrAnTs. Our diversity causes endless conflicts and was unnaturally forced by our enemies when they got into power. Likewise, it is NOT racist to desire England to be ethnically English, France to be ethnically French, etc.
@elipadgett1078
@elipadgett1078 8 месяцев назад
While I agree with you for the most part the race and national identity stuff is tough to navigate. The modern world is replete with "nation states" that lack any ethnic basis or that eschew ethnic realities. I don't blame people for wanting "a people" a genetically similar culturally connected group where they belong. As Pius X said "God... having established various kingdoms here below in accordance with diversities of language and climate, has conferred special missions on a large number of governments in order to accomplish His designs. And as once He preferred the tribe of Judah over those of other sons of Jacob, favoring it with special blessings..." Or as Pius XII said "The State does not contain in itself and does not mechanically gather within a given territory an amorphous agglomeration of individuals. The State is, and must be in reality, the organic and organizing unity of a true people Equality degenerates into a mechanical leveling, into a drab uniformity: the sentiment of true honor, personal commitment, respect for tradition, dignity - in a word, all that gives life its true value - little by little sinks and disappears." Pius XII also said "It is quite legitimate for nations to treat their differences as a sacred inheritance and guard them at all costs." The underpinning of national identity had (before the United States) always had an ethnic component. Yes, all men are equal before God, but you cannot put disparate groups with different cultures onto a landmass and expect them to be the same people.
@moonban4086
@moonban4086 8 месяцев назад
The United States had a people too but they are getting replaced so you can't really tell anymore
@elipadgett1078
@elipadgett1078 8 месяцев назад
@@moonban4086 see that's the thing, yeah, America had an ethnic group at the beginning - Anglo and Dutch Protestants, as America has expanded into French and Spanish territory that ethnos changed, when German, Italian, Polish and Irish immigrants came in the early to mid 1800's the ethnos changed again, and that's one of the things I'm talking about - we pretended that a German, an Italian, and an Irishman could be ethnically homogeneous if they said that they were white. Yeah okay it seems as though there is a concerted effort to replace Western Europeans in the West, but white birth rates are well below replacement rates.
@SirBlackReeds
@SirBlackReeds 8 месяцев назад
@@moonban4086 Funny, I don't see you bleeding your heart out for the Indian tribes who were replaced.
@sananton2821
@sananton2821 8 месяцев назад
You judge that from one comment? I'm sad about both.@@SirBlackReeds
@johnhoelzeman6683
@johnhoelzeman6683 8 месяцев назад
You aren't a true friend/ally if you hold your enemies to a higher standard than your friends
@jameskeith352
@jameskeith352 8 месяцев назад
Whether liberal or conservative, the only way to truly be fulfilled in this life is by being one with the Lord Jesus Christ in His Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. Gloria Jesu Christe!
@justinhartnell6779
@justinhartnell6779 8 месяцев назад
It's not about being fulfilled.
@Jasimp90
@Jasimp90 5 месяцев назад
I’m a convert to Catholicism and traditionally I’d consider myself a conservative and patriotic American but honestly as I continue to deepen and grow in my faith I see both the American left and right as problematic and I no longer self identify as conservative. My loyalty is to Christ and his one true Church and near as I can tell both sides in America right now are in open defiance of God. Plus I got so fed up with conservatives only complaining and never doing anything or them abandoning their principles as soon as they get a little uncomfortable. Plus Trump is a sticking point for me for so many reasons. I voted for him twice but I can’t and won’t again. And it’s not against him personally, I just have my reasons.
@izic6450
@izic6450 8 месяцев назад
Great video Trent, God bless!
@CharlesCarroll-ft6fm
@CharlesCarroll-ft6fm 8 месяцев назад
I would like to point out Richard Hannania is considered a clown by most conservatives. Not actually sure who takes him serious or as a conservative
@SirBlackReeds
@SirBlackReeds 8 месяцев назад
Probably the America First Foundation/AFPAC crew.
@TheJackjack
@TheJackjack 8 месяцев назад
I find it funny that you showed clips of black people complaining about white people but you couldn't find any clips of white people complaining about black people
@gabrielrousseau_NM
@gabrielrousseau_NM 8 месяцев назад
Those clips are allowed on RU-vid. The other type are banned.
@TheJackjack
@TheJackjack 8 месяцев назад
@@gabrielrousseau_NM i can find them
@TheJackjack
@TheJackjack 8 месяцев назад
@@gabrielrousseau_NM in those clips were those people really racist
@gabrielrousseau_NM
@gabrielrousseau_NM 8 месяцев назад
If blindly criticizing huge swaths of people and reducing them down to a common skin tone is racist then yes.@@TheJackjack
@Wilkins325
@Wilkins325 8 месяцев назад
Racism is not allowed in Catholicism, just saying.
@rickfilmmaker3934
@rickfilmmaker3934 8 месяцев назад
Absolutely fantastic. You were spot on point and your 'reason' is perfectly clear. God blessed you with extraordinary communication ability.
@farscape1975
@farscape1975 8 месяцев назад
Amen, Brother. Thanks for calling us conservatives out and warning us about how far we stray from God!
@Fiat.Voluntas.Tua22
@Fiat.Voluntas.Tua22 8 месяцев назад
CATHOLICS USED TO BE. Now we are blessing sin, divorced and remarried adultery. Catholic truths are being watered down and even thrown out. 😢😢
@bluecomb5376
@bluecomb5376 8 месяцев назад
Joseph Pearce has a fantastic conversion story. His earliest "journey home" interview on youtube is fascinating.
@jr5067
@jr5067 8 месяцев назад
Liberal/Conservative it doesnt matter. God isn't going to ask what political ideology you were when you stand before him.
@DK-mb7dg
@DK-mb7dg 8 месяцев назад
The way you pronounced "mit brennender Sorge" was really funny. You pronounced the word "Sorge" like an english word. I really like your videos. Greetings from a german non-believer.
@erravi
@erravi 8 месяцев назад
😂😊🙏🏻
@piface3016
@piface3016 8 месяцев назад
This episode made me think you're not so much of a truth seeker. Anyone who looks at the adoption studies and twin studies would come out from it knowing that the evidence does show that it's a genetic trait. Adopted kids grow up to have IQ's closer to their biological parents, whom they never met, than their adopted parents, to the point that the adoption barely matters. Twins raised in different households grow up to have IQ's as similar as twins raised together. These results (and others) have been replicated multiple times. In Sweden, Finland, the Netherlands, the UK, Australia, Colorado, Ohio and Japan. It's not an obsession about "race", it's about what's the truth and you're closing your eyes to it. Obviously we all equal in Christ Jesus and are all capable of salvation, but this equality is in the spirit, not in physicality. There is nothing wrong with saying that our flesh is different. It's a statement that has no moral value of good or bad, simply of true or false. For centuries the common-sense approach was that peoples are obviously different, but still equal before God. The problem is that we've removed God and so if you say we're different in the flesh, you're implying we're different in all that matters. But in reality we need BOTH of those; equality in spirit and inequality in flesh, because that's what is true.
@creeperrobot6859
@creeperrobot6859 8 месяцев назад
This is so true. I think its weird he chose to focus almost this entire episode on racism. I don't think he even mentioned Ben Shapiro once.
@vinciblegaming6817
@vinciblegaming6817 8 месяцев назад
I think the primary question to ask is what is the purpose of this information? What is the intention for it? I can see a reason for acknowledging it and knowing it, but Trent may not see a reason. If the goal in talking about it is just to point out whites are smarter than blacks, then it is just vain trivia. Since liberals use racially disparate outcomes as evidence of racism requiring odious policies to correct, I think there’s a purpose to the research and discussion.
@Deathbytroll
@Deathbytroll 8 месяцев назад
I think you're bad in the race issue because it's not a safe topic so sectioning off the issue to it's most extremist elements allows you to sidestep engaging with it and making yourself uncomfortable
@bobh777
@bobh777 8 месяцев назад
The second half of this video feels like damage control trying to keep Catholics on the Liberal plantation after Nick Fuentes won his recent Zionism debate.
@apologiaromana4123
@apologiaromana4123 8 месяцев назад
Based Nick Fuentes
@pembroke114
@pembroke114 8 месяцев назад
This bobh guy gets it.
@SirBlackReeds
@SirBlackReeds 8 месяцев назад
@@apologiaromana4123 He's into catboys. Not to mention he claims to be for tradition, yet he confirmed that he would ditch any wife and kids of his own so he can go screw around in Asia for 20 years. Not to mention he praised China's handling of ethnic demographics knowing full well that Xi Jinping wants the Han Chinese to be the only Chinese.
@SirBlackReeds
@SirBlackReeds 8 месяцев назад
He doesn't even understand that most Zionists are Christian Zionists. Walter Russell Mead did extensive research and found that Jewish opinions of Israel are a mixed bag, but Christians overwhelming support Israel. What the Nickers will never admit is that in the 1800s, a bunch of American Christians and secular Americans thought that if they bestowed American values onto the Jewish people then the Jews would become just like the ancient Israelites. The Jewish ambassador to the Ottoman Empire collected over 400 signatures from Jews to rebuke the Balfour Declaration. The State of Israel was created to showcase the virtue of American values to the world. Israel really is our greatest ally because when they look good, we look good. When they look bad, we look bad. When they look strong, we look strong. Are you getting it now? America influences Israel far more than Israel influences America. But no, the Nickers blames Jews and Israel because he's incapable of self-reflection. He can't accept that he's responsible for everything that's wrong in his life. He peaked in his early 20s and he's paying for it. Don't believe me? Go look up Walter Russell Mead's lectures then.
@nathanielus5296
@nathanielus5296 8 месяцев назад
​@@SirBlackReeds you're jewish
@1001011011010
@1001011011010 8 месяцев назад
To get a little personal, it is so sad to see people post things ie on social media like how abortion is important for when contraception fails...this is such a disgusting and evil thing, apparently placing mere pleasure above even life itself, and I don't know what to say or type or what have you. Do we just pray? Do we try to explain to these people how evil their viewpoints are? But it feels like at that point they're so down the rabbit hole it's hard to know what to even do...any tips, Trent?
@CMA418
@CMA418 8 месяцев назад
My advice is focus on your own evils. If you are human, you still have them. If you think you don’t, that is an evil in itself: Pride. It can be dangerous to compare ourselves to “worse sinners”.
@1001011011010
@1001011011010 8 месяцев назад
@@CMA418 I'm not hating on the person, but hating on the view. Of course we're not perfect, but we can still help make the world better. The question is how, in this certain instance. I try to imagine what a role model would do but if you think about known saints or heros they...mostly were before widespread internet. Now, anyone can publish their own thoughts publicly for just about anyone else to see. It's totally different... If it were in person with someone I know at least I think I'd try to have a heart to heart. But the internet and widespread access to information changes a lot, I mean people should know the prolife view which is more reasonable as it defends life, which is the most foundational right! But things are so framed in the culture of death that such a basic thing is politicized, and psychologically they may view responses as "attacks" etc.
@CMA418
@CMA418 8 месяцев назад
@@1001011011010 How can we make the world better when so few of us can make ourselves better due to the fact that we think we are “good”. Regarding the internet, I haven’t extensively studied the topic, but I imagine there were those that made similar arguments about the “evils” of printing press. And I imagine many of them were cloaked in religious ideology. I could be wrong. I’m human too! 😭🙏
@1001011011010
@1001011011010 8 месяцев назад
@@CMA418 By the grace of God, of course! This is also how we can become better, Lord willing. I don't think the internet is evil but it allows for a lot of evil and is just...different from what was before, the context of a lot of stuff has changed compared to when we read stories of the saints or heros (or most of them, at least). But it does allow for evil and further division, just as it allows for greater good. So the medium appears neutral
@haighton
@haighton 8 месяцев назад
@1001011011010, both contraception and abortion are not disgusting nor evil. And yes pleasure goes above (new) life.
@gennarocirillo9608
@gennarocirillo9608 2 месяца назад
Love your videos Trent! Keep up the good work!
@thehausen5054
@thehausen5054 8 месяцев назад
Trent didn’t disavow nick Fuentes.. GROYPER CONFIRMED LFG
@patrickgroyper83
@patrickgroyper83 8 месяцев назад
based, but we shouldn't get too hasty, his wife is anti NJF and I think that he is trying to make us connect the dots against Nick without actually naming him and starting drama, why else would he have included the frog in the thumbnail? And btw I like both Trent for his apologetics and Nick for his politics.
@berjastkjuklingur1914
@berjastkjuklingur1914 8 месяцев назад
​@@patrickgroyper83I think he's definitely alluding to Nick but doesn't have the courage to do it.
@SirBlackReeds
@SirBlackReeds 8 месяцев назад
@@patrickgroyper83 Nick's into catboys. He left his own men to rot in DC gulags whilst he remains a free millionaire, he confirmed that if he ever has a wife and kids that he'd ditch them for 20 years to screw around in Asia, and his politics are "I think it's based and right-wing, therefore it is." He's the same guy who tried to tout Kanye West, a pro-BLM liberal, as the future of American conservatism, the future of America. Did you forget that Ye24 went bust?
@KolchaksGhost
@KolchaksGhost 6 месяцев назад
@@SirBlackReedsslander
@lottidd6037
@lottidd6037 8 месяцев назад
Great episode. 🙏
@spinninginspace
@spinninginspace 8 месяцев назад
💎🙏🏼 I do not see this issue talked about enough
@idriveastationwagon1534
@idriveastationwagon1534 8 месяцев назад
i really feel more concerned with "conservative christians" because they may just end up being moral pharisees. And lately, i noticed in the conservatice space atleast, its like an arms race to see who can be the most edgy conservative. Its like theyre virtue signaling by saying "look at how right I am and how wrong they (the left) are!". It almost reminds me of the prayer the pharisee prayed saying that he was glad he wasnt like the tax collector.
@Apostole_T
@Apostole_T 6 месяцев назад
Oh! God bless You, we need more voices as yours.
@stevenjames6830
@stevenjames6830 8 месяцев назад
Not wanting your culture and ethnic group to be replaced is an irrational thing according to this guy
@gunsgalore7571
@gunsgalore7571 8 месяцев назад
He only condemned racism and the belief that one race is more human or inherently superior to the other. I could desire the social success of my own (redneck/Scotch-Irish) ethnic group without asserting its superiority over other groups or treating other groups inhumanely. Mr. Horn is not opposed to reasonably love of one's own culture and ethnicity. He is opposed to hatred towards other cultures and ethnicities.
@borginburkes1819
@borginburkes1819 8 месяцев назад
He literally never said that. How can Christians claim to be against abortion but then also advocate for black children to be aborted? Please explain that
@lucascesar029
@lucascesar029 8 месяцев назад
This guy who? Trent example of racists were people who felt disgust at other races and who wanted them to die, how is that "not wanting to be replaced"?
@Wilkins325
@Wilkins325 8 месяцев назад
I am eager for you to try to explain how Trent implied any of this. You dont have to be full of hatred of other races to want the preservation of your country's people.
@borginburkes1819
@borginburkes1819 8 месяцев назад
@@Wilkins325 you’re not going to convince them.
@3ggshe11s
@3ggshe11s 8 месяцев назад
Thanks, Trent. With everything going on in the church right now, I needed this reality check. It's easy to get swallowed up in polemics and to fall in line with one or the other side of the contemporary political divide. I think it's important for people to remember that the Catholic church isn't liberal or conservative; it's Catholic.
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