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Cox or McCoy? the store bought RTF's back then were fairly expensive and usually poor performers for any stunts. I'd only ever bought 2 balsa kits, after that literally dozens of scratch builds. fast little plank planes, built up pattern planes and combat ships (LOVED flying 1/2A combat!!).

GaragebandandBeyond .....I actually found two Cox Stukas at the Salvation Army Store in San Bernardino when I was a kid back in 67. We were single mom raised so this was where we shopped, and for a couple of bucks a box you filled up with toys is how we got stuff. Anyway we even found the blue steel adjustable control line release pads that held the 1/2a planes until you ran over to your control and pulled it's trip wire. I was so into this hobby I got a new Testors P-51 Mustang for Christmas. This brings back fond memories of the simple days, and I can relate to Bob.

GaragebandandBeyond ....Forgot to mention that Bill Atwood designed both the Cox engine for them, and later the Testors engine for AMF/Wen-Mac. I still have all the engines that were in the planes, and surprisingly most all still run. I've done a RU-vid video on several of these running and maybe one day I'll film the cars and boats as well.

Kieth Lucas very cool, I'd forgotten the McCoy Testors thing. Cox were a little nicer built I think. rescued one that had seized with pearl drops tooth polish as lapping compound, ran fine again, lot cheaper than buying new

model nutty , it would go to Cox, as McCoy were more expensive. Like I said we paid about two bucks for a box full of every thing you needed. All I ever got from stores was fuel. I even soldered up three batteries in parallel to get the mAh to ignite them. My first balsa was a German Storch, and I put a .020 Cox in it. My second was a Spitfire, and a .049 Cox went in that. Later on my uncle gave me a numbered and registered AMAC flying wing RC with the McCoy .19 in it, but it had no electronics. Life takes it's toll and I soon started racing dirt bikes, so there went the hobby.

Wait. In the same circle? How does that even work? Did you have a professional to untie the lines later? ;)

something like that, called combat, where streamers trail behind each flying wing. the idea is you chop off the streamer. or if it comes to it last man standing. think this sport should warrant a revival

Allan Korup I was watching videos from competitions while the guys were making these and man it's amazing.

+Allen Korup yes they sure are n00bs to this stuff, and trying to go big with electrics out the gate. they could use the help and really should be starting with 1/2A size craft to get a better feel for it

How about tethered electric car races? Have two heavy bases with a rotary top. Out one side of the top run power lines and a tether to the car. The car's steering is set so it will run around in a circle, keeping its tether tight. The most basic and simplest control is just motor on-off. A rheostat could be used for a throttle. The competition comes from running two of these side by side, one going clockwise, the other counter-clockwise, with their circles slightly overlapping. They'll be moving the same direction where their circles overlap. The goal is to complete a set number of circles first. Hit together and your car could be spiraling inward towards its pivot. After some googling, people still run these but mostly gas powered and one at a time. Fairly large scale but wit no control. They go until they crash or run out of fuel. Some go over 200 MPH real, not scale, speed and the specially built tracks have safety guards to protect spectators in case a tether breaks.

I can see why it's been nearly forgotten. It.....doesn't look all that interesting to people who didn't grow up with it. I have *zero* interest in ever flying CL. It was fun to watch FT try it out, but honestly, I'm not willing to give up my throttle, ailerons, rudder, FPV, retracts, et-al to fly something that's gonna make me dizzy AF and can really only do circles, loops, and combinations of the two. As someone who grew up long after RC gear matured enough to effectively render it obsolete it just doesn't hold any interest beyond the historic significance behind it. It's a fascinating piece of history and I'm glad its still supported well enough for those who like it to still fly CL, but honestly, I'm probably never going to do so myself.

@@greggeshelman You wouldn't need to do anything to the car to keep the lines taut. Centrifugal force alone would do the job. The only real difference between one of the fuel burning tether cars of yesteryear and what you're proposing is replacing the fuel tank and piston engine with a brushless motor, a lipo, and a speed controller, then trying to run several of them at one time.

RapidRrobert, I second dacron for the smaller planes!

+william sullivan yes they really DO need to look at 1/2A size planes!

RapidRrobert nice advice

A thinner line would also help reduce the amount of pull as it goes through the air as well.

RapidRrobert I agree with the slack line! I mentioned in a comment on the last control line video that they need to try a lighter line with no memory or stretch. braided fishing line e such as Fireline would be absolutely perfect! plus it is easily acquired at any walmart or fishing supply store!

Right rudder, outthrust, and launch downwind or a little beyond.

Also some weight in the outboard wingtip.

It was a very bad launch - far too steep! It needs to be launched level or down. And certainly in this case, full throttle.

James Rostie exactly what I was saying. Bob looked like he was taken back to his childhood. Made me smile.

T-Bone Drones totally!!!! making amazing memories on a daily basis.... haha good for you guys, ☺️☺️what an amazing group of people you all are !!!

chad henry the plane they used is a called a Bloody Wonder, look it up on their website

YEP bloody wonder is correct! And the BELL CRANK is also ready to check out online! Good luck Chad! Blessings, S.O.

123Shel12 Had the ringmastet my self also the baby ringmaster, lil satan wings and flight streak. Carl Goldberg models, o then there was the lil jumpin bean. great days flying those. sometimes when a bad crash happend we would have ceremonial fire.

old red head McCoy .35 on a VooDoo combat ship was a blast back when

I also use spiderwire fishing line that is rated 4 times the flying weight of my planes, far less drag and cheap too.

lol yup, Cox Black Widow with it's longer tank could dizzy ya up pretty good if you couldn't pull some wingovers, inverted flight and some 8's along the way.

model nutty I thought that the bigger 049 cox was the golden bee ?

about identical, Black Widow was dual ported cylinder for more power, it'd empty it's tank quicker than the Golden Bee too, was basically a Baby Bee with the larger gold anodized aluminum+tank. the Texaco were nicer for even lower fuel consumption (and less power output). they played with porting and reed valve a bunch to make them. I still have a couple Black Widows, one with a Kavan tank extender and muffler on it for longer 2ch RC flying. it was their most powerful reed valve .049, the TeeDee and Medallion front rotary valve engines were good for pressurized bladder fed fuel, they'd scream with near twice the rpm.

Thanks for watching Dick! Glad we could bring back some great memories! WE are def enjoying building these memories as much as possible! Blessings, S.O.

definite yes to engine and rudder both pitched out, engine up to 10 degrees if it's slower flyer like this was. the first flight last week with it coming in on them was hysterical! that loop was a little scary but he missed the ground anyway

WAY fun when you know what you're doing with them!

even hovering over camera aimed down would be really cool view, maybe using yaw to spin trying to track the plane

loops, inverted loops, figure eights to keep lines from twisting up, inverted clockwise flight, was doing it all 40-45 years ago. by experience I know this plane was a kinda wimpy-limpy flyer needing more power and more elevator throw

I remember CG Lil Wizard, Swordsman was a little lighter/smaller/faster

engine pitched out too. about only exception to rudder was combat ships, were fast enough and didn't have/need rudders.

Indeed!! Bob saved the day! No longer fitting to call him "background bob!" ha more like "FRONT ROW bob!" Thanks for watching Sean! S.O.