Controversial Ending That Made Serbian Fans Throw Things 

They will never give us a licence

We don't need that sheet we will win aba league

@@user-bx3yf6vn1b do you ever wonder why?

u do react like that when that win is so important for your team

You don't try to hurt people over a basketball game. Tells a lot about you as a person.@@brankocrnojevic606

Thats not even close to a travel

​​@@dfsagasdgsdgsadg8888 Yes , moron it definately IS ! .....

@@dfsagasdgsdgsadg8888 Does his foot stay in the same position or no? No is the answer he slides it

@@asoasotriadio do you know how the rule works💀💀, you can slide as long as you want if you dont lift the foot

​​​@@dfsagasdgsdgsadg8888His main foot is the left ok? Before the ball leave his hands while he was passing it, his left foot was in the air while the right foot was still touching the floor... How is this not a travel he lifted his main foot

Tau neįperkama bus

@@ola4339 nebent jai idiotu valiuta mokama, tada gal ir neipirksiu, bet tau ner ko nerimaut matosi

go3

insecurity and victim complex to the max. obviously the whole world is against you, you poor serb! Did you count any mistakes the other way? obviously not.

I admire the analysis, but the part about unsportmanlike foul seems to be your interpretation. Rules say that you can award it for " Excessive, hard contact caused by a player in an effort to play the ball or an opponent" and other things. We could analyse if the rules are good, but referees should fallow them without making they own interpretations. To start making different calls if its the end of the game seems strange to me, because how players know can they play rough or there will be a foul.

@@Muziejininkas Yes, and let it put here clear so everyone understand what is problem and why BasketNews are refering to this unsportmanlike fouls as a problem. Euroleague uses FIBA officiating standards, and that is titled "Official basketball rules 2022", the last update... Article 37 Article 37.1.1 (definitions what is unsportlike fouls) 1. CONTACT WITH THE OPPONENT and not legitimly attempting to play the ball within the spirit and intent of rules. 2. EXCESSIVE, HARD CONTACT caussed by player in an effort to PLAY THE BALL. 3. UNNECESSARY CONTACT caused by defensive player in order to stop progress of the offensive team IN TRANSITION. This applies until the offensive player starts act of shooting. 4. An ILLEGAL CONTACT caused by the player behind or laterally on an opponent, who is progressing toward opponent basket and with no opponents between progressive player and basket. Then comes Article 37.1.2 and that is the main problem both in Euroleague and FIBA international competitions, as same as in NBA, although not neccesary on same issue of fouls. And it goes: Article 37.1.2. The referee MUST INTERPRET unsportmanlike fouls CONSISTENTLY throughout the game AND JUDGE ONLY THE ACTION. When you read pure definitions of what is unsportsmanlike fouls, it appeares it is every contact in the game. But there is grades. Applying rule 1, it is obviouse you will not get unsportmanlike foul if you hit opponent on hands, arms, forearms, shoulders etc. (all good is it if it is not in the face, but even for face and head) even if it is obviouse you didn't play on ball, and even when you would be unable to reach ball at all. No referee would call unsportsmanlike foul for accidental tap with the palm on a top of opponent palyer head, (referee will call for sure regular foul, but not unsportsmanlike), as long as it is "within spirit and intent of rules". On the other side, intentional fingers in the eyes, fist to the nose, elbow to the chin etc. would be, without any possibility for doubt, called as unsportsmanlike foul. So you already have, for definition of 1st type of unsportsmanlike fouls, clear what is that type of faul, clear what will not be concidered unsportmanslike foul (with stress "unsportsmanlike", becasue almost everything I gave as example up here is 100% regular fouls, and should be called always, although that is not applied either in full), and all of a sudden you have gray zone between that two poles, that need INTERPRETATION. Here is example. Two players are fighting for position, no ball involved, standard appearance on post and in blocks and screens. If one start sudden movement and opponent hand accidentally appeare near his neck, and there is even contact, but with no intention whatsoever of that other player to do that, so he quickly remove hand, nothing will be called. If in the same situation that other player say: "Ohoho!", and start to choke him in grappling grip, it will be obviouse unsportsmanlike foul. But what with case when in that situation, and that happeneds a lot, player hand in movement ends above extended hand of standing player, who cannot extend it anymore, he can only contract it, and it appeares like he is trying to choke or grab the player in movement, but he is actually locked and cannot retract hand, can just fallow player in movement. It will be called as foul, but it will not be unsportsmanlike foul, but regular, because there was no INTENTION of player for such foul, and that is "in spirit and intention of rules". 2. Definistion of 2nd type of unsportsmanlike foul is again extremly problematic. Do you know what is EXCESIVE HARD CONTACT? Is it when you hit purposely and intentionally opponent with full strength and without any restriction? Yes, obviously, that is the clear one, when it is obviouse it is intention to hurt, and not to play on the ball. But what if you run, opponent run, you both jump, and you miss the ball, or even don't miss, but hit both ball and opponent on the head in the fire of the game. You will get a foul, but regular, not unsportsmanlike, because althoguh contact was HARD, it was not EXCESIVE. But again, that is a gray zone, and main reason why it is a gray zone is there is no DEFINITION what is EXCESIVE HARD, and what is NORMAL HARD, CONTACT. It is left for referees to define it by their "subjective" judgement. But it is actually not so subjective as if it could be interpretated solely by definishion in rule book. FIBA officiating assosiation has their esnaff recommendation that are not from yesterday, but circulates for decades. EXCESIVE HARD FOUL is the one that threatens seriouse injury and put fouled player in danger to be hurt, and it would always should be called as unsportsmanlike foul. If it is not injury threatening, that is just HARD or little ruffer regular faul. And there is where also INTENTION of palyer comes as very important ellement of equassion. Because, even if some player didn't succed to made EXCESIVE HARD FOUL, but he obviously intended to hurt opponent player with one, he would get unsportsmanlike foul without discussion. On the other hand, if the foul was on the edge to be EXCESIVE HARD, but was unintentional, accidental, it is more likely to be called regular foul (even when, for instance, one player slip and lose ballace and, while falling, trip player in run, and that second fall and brake arm or leg -- it is EXCESIVE HARD injury over any doubt, but there was no intention of the player who commited that foul and cause that...). So, in essence, the main mission of referees on the court is to keep game under control, to not allow atmosphere or situation where palyers might start to injure one another, or even to start to fight each other. And there is that famouse Article 37.1.2. Good referee has in definition of 1st and 2nd type of unsportsmanlike fouls certain gray zones where they can INTERPRET to some extent what is unsportsmanlike foul (that EXCESIVE HARD) and what is jsut HARD (or regular), but he has OBLIGATION to do it CONSISTENTLY THROUGHOUT THE GAME. What that means? If something is not unsportmanslike foul in first minutes of 1st quarter, or in 2nd quarter, or in 3rd, it cannot suddenly become unsportsmanlike foul in last minutes of the game. In this game Zvezda vs Zhalgiris, referee INTERPRETED and he established his INTERPRETATION of this kind of foul in first half of the game (and everyone who watched the game knows there was multiple simillar hard fouls, even harder than this problematic, even two I would call unsportmanslike foul without any hesitation), but he cannot allow one level of interpretation of hardness during the game, and then in endgame to change his established standard of interpretation of EXCESIVE HARD and just HARD. And this foul had every ellements not to be called unsportsmanlike, it is in gray zone of EXCESIVENESS, and what so ever, all simillar fouls were before that one rulled as regular. So, by my judgement, referees made 4 cardinal mistakes in game: 1. They allowed rough game from the start (and by my oppinion, they allowed to rough and already there they lost their hold over the game). 2. Cahnged refereeing criterium during a game. 3. Changed it in crucial moments of the end game. 4. They still could use video check to defuse situation and to calm down both audience and players on the court, and they could do it, because EXCESIVENESS, if it is not intentional, is in their power of INTERPRETATION, but they decided to miss that opportunity also... And this fazes is also graver and graver mistakes. If you allow yourself 1st, you better commit 2nd as selfcorection during first half, and not wait 4th quarter, and you certainly don't do it by 3rd, and you certainly don't push it with 4th if you see angry mob ready to jump on the court and linch you. And for end, why I am not talking about 3rd and 4th type of unsportsmanlike foul, where you have UNNECESSARY (3rd) and ILLEGAL (4th) CONTACTS, or in translation total ban of any contact. It is 2 very detailed described situations and very clear: no contact what so ever (based, again, on high risk of palyers' injuries in such situations), and there is no "space" for interperetation of that rules, they must be applied (and I already watched several games in Euroleague this season where they were not applied, and multiple time in one game not applied, and that is pretty interesting). P. S. As I said, that officiating recommendation exist for decades already, and it was not changed (regarding CONTACTS from 1st and EXCESIVNESS from 2nd) from late 1980s, and we occassionally, before 30, 20, 10 yeras, could see here and there games badly officiated and uncapable and "shortsided" referees, but this is already a pretty long string this season in Euroleague... And I checked, that is not unexpirienced referees, they have long carriers and top reputations in their domestic leagues, even on FIBA list for international competitions. You cannot say they are uncompetent and uncapable, they are just to to to "sloppy" lately. I guess there msut be some collision between Euroleague demanding one standard, and not "standard standard" that referees accustomed to in their main leagues, and in that colission, they are not succeeding to implements Euroleague standard, nor they implement their own, and you get this games where everybody is uspet with refereeing.

Aris budget is 700k? :O

zvezda is the best

Dude how yago is one of the problem? Guy is carrying that sinking ship

au sta pricas ti, Jago je bukvalno najmanji problem u ovoj ekipi. Lik je dao 21 poen i imao 14 asistencija protiv Zalgirisa, ako to nije nivo za Evroligu, ne znam sta jeste. Logicno da ne moze da bude prvi plej kao rookie u El, to niko ne bi mogao, al nije on kriv sto je zbog nase nesposobne uprave morao da postane prvi plej i taj posao obavlja i vise nego odlicno s obzirom na neiskustvo.

@@falaka6318 Vidim razumeš se u košarku.Od sad,prati koliko ima izgubljenih lopti.

@@ZA-MunZeStyle Ау друже, ти везе са животом немаш. Јаго има 3,8 асистенција по утакмици и 1,4 изгубљене лопте, однос асистенција и изгубљених је 2,67 а све преко 2,5 је добро за плеја. Конкретно против Жалгириса 14 асистенција без изгубљене лопте. Значи не бламирај нас оваквим срамним коментарима. Спортски поздрав.

@@ZA-MunZeStyle pa imao je tacno 0 izgubljenih lopti protiv Zalgirisa, za 32 min i 14 a, imati 0 izgubljenih lopti je retkost iskreno. Al ocito se ti ne razumes u kosarku kada ocekujes od decka koji prvi put igra Evroligu da odmah uskoci u patike prvog pleja i bez gresaka igra, bez izgubljenih lopti, da u svakom trenutku osmisli savrsenu akciju i da cita igru kao Teo (koji ima 15 sezona u evroligi iza sebe). Kako utakmice prolaze njegovih gresaka je sve manje, a na mecu protiv Zalgirisa mu se apsolutno nista ne moze zameriti osim nesportske. Reći da nije nivo za El je bukvalno sramota znajuci da mnogo gori od njega igraju El vec godinama, imas i u nasem klubu primera.

It does not matter if he intended to hit him in the face or not. It's a clear hit in the face which means it's an unsportsmanlike foul. It's actually quite a simple call.

@@VilouLtMinutes before Yago did a foul, He got hit in the eye in 2 + 1 situation. That was not a unsportsmanlike foul, Zalgiris player did not want to hit Yago in the face. But yea, that was something that no one mentioned.

Intend to hit didnt actually matter in the rule book Its either an excessive move / not sport moves or a legal sport moves Lets say i didnt intend to hit someone but i do a high kick, it will still be and unsportsman Or if i put my elbow out, regardless of intent, it will be called unsportsman if someone got hit

Name change its just a formality I see. Its still the same club base

@@ola4339 No club from RS sports unity was colapse,and didnt exist,thay must go from lovest league and then that will be zvezda,but some other club call himself crvena zvezda belagrade,Belgrade is something what tell you that they arent isnt club,you dont understand situation in Serbia,Partizan in every sport is club who is oposit becouse of fans from gouverment,zvezda is something else,dimetral else,they are in every gouverment and thay didnt exist when gouverment dont pay for one month,I say to you everything about solding tickets for games,at least last forthteen years no body pay for ticket for all sports when is zvezda game,Partizan live from money of their supporters , every week 20000 people pay for cards,but I am literall,wheb you bought chips on gas station thay give you tckket for football,or basketball and who gives money for exists mutant zvezda.Thay even dont go on basketball games,but where Partizan is good thay will be there to bite Partizan,waterpolo,handball,football,basketball is bigest mistake for people for outside Sewrbia,they are nothing in that spor,and thats true, no change name for formality , but for exist,and they die ,I dont know year,I think some 2012., but BCPartizan is club who will go in lovest league with fans and will be back,like Rangers in football in Scotland,or CSKA in Bulgaria Sofia and they exist,but zvezda is thif cl;ub ,their ,,supporters" know that,but all story is for you,becouse you say formality,but formality zvezdqa didnt exist,thats crvena zvezda beograd,even adress of club is differnt form clubs from zvezda sports unity.No thats isnt same club base,thats same base for them becouse they are vs Partizan,only in that,and they are haert becouse they cant vs BCP,you dont know what thay do in our countrie,or league,in that adriatic league play games two clubs one zvezda (whos exist when fmp change name in crvena zvezda beogra,but they bought club Radncki and change them name in fmp,thats criminal)and todfay play fmp-zvezda,same peple in clubs,and nothing,that cant exist ,but in vucic serbia you can look that,look results of the games tha two clubs,oh mirricle,fmp2 never win fmp3,or 1,that dont know even biggest supporters of zvezda,can understand,why uleb go in Balgrade,becouse zvezda cant live one day if gouverment dont push taxmoney in them,but BCP cant have even propagand name on shirts becousew some from gouverment dont give them oportunity to be sponsor of BCP,Partizan has some sponsors ,but everything is in supporters.SWorry for bad english,but I think that you can understand what is about,if you want somme deep stories behind that,you can find everything on net.Becose of them-zvezda od fmp2,Sewrbia hasnt at leat one club in euroleague for wll time,becouse they know how zvezda exist,and they think that BCP is same storie but no,BCPartizan is big club,everystorie about basketball in Serbia goes from Partizan,from fans in Pioneer,Arena,resoults,medals for Serbia and Montenegro,or ex Yu,and zvezda just do everything to beat Partizan,waterpolo and basketball are things where nothing exist if you erese Partizan.Nothing special,they are just crimanal club whos cant exist,and that will be come when gouverment will change.But Partizan live in hard times l;ike now,or god times,same like Zalgiris,thats two similar clubs,zvezda exist only for be vs Partizan if you understand.

@@outsider7665 Wtf bro you writing too long. You need to learn express your thoughts in a coherent way. Try to breath next time

@@ola4339 Becouse you dont understand nothing,somebody must colord for you to show you different BCPartizan and zvezda.Dont worry for me,I know how to express my things,but you dont understand,zvezda didnt exist,do you understand now?

@@outsider7665 well I see its founded in 1945, so it exists since then

Kakvi ste vi imbecili

A u glavi samo Crvena zvezda…

Partizan fan thinks his team is better your fans litterally booed your own team players after bayern game... its even funnier some Partizan fans saying that they are friend with Žalgiris fans, we Lithuanians literrally dont like both Serbian teams :DD

​@@nesakysiu12 Yes but the difference is Partizan always beats you and zvezda don't.

@@MarkoMesic-vz4gk literally do not care what we lose to one team or the other im just stating the fact that zvezda and partizan fans are the same both team have a lot of stupid fans