Conversations on Compassion with Werner Erhard 

I did EST in the 70's and did seminars, the 6 day Training and the Communication workshop. EST has made a positive difference in my life and I am thankful for that. Nice to see him and hear him after all these years. I love and appreciate Werner Erhardt deeply and widely!!

One of the best things I’ve ever done for myself and the people in my life is the Landmark forum. I have a relationship with my mother that actually works, my father in which love can be openly expressed and experienced, a sister who I adore completely … a career that is moving in the direction of my dreams … to name a few

I am so grateful for having the opportunity of taking the est training in '80. then had the privilege of working with Werner. My experience of myself from the est training gave me a Self that i could not of imagined before the training.

Fascinating how Mr. Erhard simply walks in a room, and controversy arises as soon as he opens his mouth. I love that! Really fascinating.

Known Werner for over 40 years...awesome human being just like you and me!

I took the EST training around 1980. I also did the 6 day training in San Francisco and several different workshops. They were all powerful and helped me to open up alot and have a better experience of life. I respect Werner much. Plus I share his birthday of September 5.

I did the Forum in the late 1980-s-early 1990's and experienced a breakthrough which would not have been a possibility without this training!

Ater, I took the training I spoke to my Dad. It was the greatest thing that happened from this. I hope everyone has a breakthrough like I did.

An awesome human being. One of the top thinkers and evolutionary forces on the planet. Always interested in what Werner has to say.

Werner is fascinating for me to watch, I kept wanting to fast forward through the other guys talking. anyone else agree or is it just me?

Thanks for the video.. I did Forum in 1994 and completed the curriculum.. in India..My Forum leader is Debu Ghosh.. The training is still with me.. thanks for everything.. 💐💐🙏🏻🙏🏻

...One of the greatest minds I adore!!!

I learned a lot from these programmes. They might have changed since then but compassion and trauma informed are not words I’d use to describe it. But it is very powerful work so as long as you are stable enough and healthy enough it should be a positive experience

The single best thing I have ever done in my life is the forum. It is nothing short of a miracle what has happened in our family since - I have beautiful self expressed relationships with everyone in my life just from sitting my bum down for those three days - I wanted to leave right up until the last and then I saw how much I made people wrong and had to be right about everything. I discovered my stubbornness and saw how unattractive it was to everyone in my life. It is genius how they have you discover for yourself. I learnt to trust again. X

I worked on Werner's personal staff in the early 80's. I love the man and am awestruck by the sheer numbers of people worldwide who have derived enormous benefit from his work. To this day, the most remarkable human beings I have known were those I worked with on his staff so many years ago. At the same time, I was struck on many levels by the contrast between Werner and Dr. Doty in this video. Dr. Doty talked about compassion and he was the very embodiment of compassion. He said we are hard-wired to care. I really don't think Werner is like that. He is all about productivity and impact. In all the time I worked with and around Werner, I never once felt that he cared for me (or anybody else for that matter). Perhaps that is more of a reflection on me than him. My purpose here is not to be critical or pass judgment but rather to share my own experience and observation. Just watch the video and observe the difference between Dr. Doty and WE..

Cried a few times. I love you, Werner!

one of the finest humans i know every day i am so grateful for the impact you had on my life

Just found Werner on youtube. You can bet I will be following ALL of this!

I participated in the EST training in San Jose, CA with about 500 other people. Werner Erhard & Stuart Esposito were the tandem trainers for those 2 weekends. My family members who noticed a shift in my being participated in the training themselves. Many seminars followed, a 6-day intensive course & a Nature of Reality Course too; oh & the Caribbean cruise with Werner & other EST graduates. Also the Hunger Project & the F1 racing events. Listening & being with Werner in many events & beyond. Thank you to everyone!

Love this. Getting to the heart of the matter. Love one another. and Love is all there is.

You really did a diigent rescue. Great Heart and compassion. Thank you.

This is the best ------ I have been there and will add much to this in the future.

thanks for sharing this

He’s a good man that made a difference in my life. The feds 60 minutes we’re complicit because Scientology was pissed. I hope all those that were responsible for that lynching are held accountable one day

These are the best conversations I've ever listened to

Thank you very much! 🙏

im so glad you LISTENED to him in regards to the chips.Amazing!

Two domains:Werner forgetting names, and name tags. thank you Warner I love you too.

For me... it’s always been ... Outside of words that penetrates my awareness from Werner. This only happens out of ones-complete responsible living. Only from integrity comes the goodies forward for others. And never not . Bit what do I know. Ha. For me. This man is a treasure as the upright of inclusive consciousness. I have never been so elevated in my life out if any of my seeking. Above what I took away from the Est training the education for living seminars the guest seminar leaders program the 7 day all the coffees I sponsored and all the beings family included I was fortunate enough to be with in such a way that they also have been changed forever. We used to be .... I used to be different now I’m the same . All the way back from 79 . What fortune I stumbled upon. What chance of grander is there? You tell me that! Just tell me that! What is bigger ! Nothing is bigger. Not one dam thing. Lets be clear about that. There is nothing bigger than to give ones self back to ones self for no reward but that! What other reward is there that actually matters ? Non . All that garbage about quagmires according to the fashion of the times ....... that’s all distraction and chains. How stupid in propensity can beings be. Actually shows up in your face. If not your just spinning your wheels of victim to it all. And words ... like here... they are not it. But on top of it.....😊🌸 Anything off about anything about anyone is for them to face can’t not. Life escapes no one. So I don’t vote about it. Only my going’s on’s belong to me. Be---Long that’s how long. And that’s where and how it be’s . No? That’s one’s work. A good man is s bad mans teacher and a bad man is a good mans job. It’s not about following..... some pure thing. At my worst ... no one wants to even admit they know me. At my best they want to be me. Is it any different for you? Well thank u for reading. Ha. Under neath I hope to augment with my comment. Snd it feels warm doing it. Why else would I come back. Instead of starting my own thingy here in this virtual place. I never had A problem about it.

What would history do without these remarkable good guys / bad guys?

Awesome Man , Human Being!

🙏🏻🌸🙏🏻 for me .... of all things that twist a man not much is mentioned of the value of a true Father. How much how much is over looked for me is pure absence of intelligence the world over . The only thing missing most of is Father. Yet Mother glazes this over on-going.R.P.🙏🏻

I'll never be able to thank him enough.

Por favor habrá la forma de que se activen subtitulos en español, mi ingles no es bueno!! De verdad seria de gran gran gran valor!!!

Est was groundbreaking in the ‘70s when I first took it, and I continued with many other est programs, volunteering, Landmark, the Hunger Project, etc., for years after that. Even years later, it has continued to be foundational for me in all I do and people I know. Werner is still transformational in his work today, and I’m so thankful that he showed up in my lifetime. Living in truth is simple and quiet, and so is love. What comes from this inner silence is the openness to be present with, listen to, and be compassionate to others.

Does anyone know what book Werner was referring to at 1:24:10? A book about "raising the floor"?

Can I get some examples of what Werner has done to relieve suffering in the world outside of his seminars.

A man who can’t remember names married a woman named Hanukkah? Perfect 👍. He is a genius.

🌸I create everything in my life. Everything and-you and the driver in traffic that is slowing me down and everything else. All of it is me. Everything else is entertainment about it. It just is all for me. And there is no mystery about it . I Am every that. 🏄🏼‍♂️ thank you

Werner Erhard's real name is John Rosenberg. He was a used car salesman.

The compassion in America today is crippled by the greed which takes place in the banks who evict people from their homes who skip payments due to this pandemic. Families are put in danger living in tent cities across America. The compassion for people in need of medical supplies and hospitalization has taken a back seat to allow those in the 2% of the wealthy Americans to be isolated from the affects. Est was the greatest experience of my life in 1980 Houston TX and I refreshed that training with Landmark in Atlanta 2018. I recommend anyone to do it for a wakeup call to find ways to implement compassion in the culture of humanity.

Introduction Leader here.

After the training, I dropped my starving artist routine and went into public education. I thought I won the booby prize...it was the greatest gift I ever received. I wanted to make a difference.

This is truly profound

Well the best that works for me even today after 30 years is the action work shop

Sounds interesting.

Anyone held John Paul Rosenberg accountable for his first family that he abandoned? Did he ever make up for that?

you are spot on... I was here before at this video post thingy . Buy accident then and now once again. Not accident as a mistake. The other accidental arriving here. The fundamental place we all come from in attitude. Ha. Is not a place un in erupted Or un-interfered with by our whole sociable frame work. It’s like we notice everything but see nothing. We are looking through the worlds glasses from a shallow filter that is common through the centuries. We think we add to our species’ intelligence. But never abandon our arrogance. People of admiration and high profile can only keep our attention by our attractiveness to their pointed success of excessive gatherings. So the goal becomes how to have a special tool to not be about the success in the excessive ownership of envied gatherings. But live out the lie and say that we are truly not about that. Ha. Ha. It’s us that will never be content with our Lot.... Never enough of this worldly attitude around to show its worldly richness. We think there’s no richness in life at all unless there’s the worldly unanimous agreement of agreed upon-riches of life . A-greed is what it is!!! It flys in the face of what natural human power to create really is. It’s like saying... if I can get more of the things out of profit of my brainstorming put to manufacturing . Seemingly out of thin air as I go along with my steadfast plan. I can make my children’s life better.... even if My manufacturing’s processes make their air thin then thinner and thinner. It’s like we are intelligent enough to really see it. But if it doesn’t earn cents it doesn’t make sense. This is how we proceed with everything. So I’m not following some celebrity of shinny gatherings and smooth deep convincing on how I too can obtain this magic.. as I dream about them and their lessons of wealth and create my vision boards and mantras and robes of clothings and mountain side isolations and chassid practices galore just to escape this trap. It’s a trap all of it. But you wont want to get the all of that ! You want to get all that first and still get it all. But the all is the nothing at all. And you refuse to allow that truth to run through your living. And you let yourselves be conned again and again into thinking that is the way. Because like a brilliant primate of extraordinary abilities and intellect. The primate will never get it . The it that you can get but can’t stand up against the celebrity(s) of it all. Like the hypnotist .... follow my gold watch .. look closely now your getting sleepy and sleepy now close your eyes. And when I snap my fingers. You will awake. To being fully asleep. You don’t like this do you ? Ha. Screw this guy Let me move over to such and such a person. They have it all look see there. Let me listen to that one. And then the next fork in the road of happy/ness then what about that elixir. Let me add that in too. Theres so many goodies over there. Forget about the other side ... the absolute side. I’m not a stupid primate .....! REALLY PEOPLE... Just live already .. this is it. All of it. Geese there is no place like home with in yourselves . Now go take a cigarette brake before you sleep or brain-fries. Ha ha you can’t get enough of what you don’t need.. now if I talk some more you’ll go off and even forget about the meat of this . You know the meat that blinked in as the it you are searching for than disappeared. Like the limited extent of the primate’s full intelligence !! That can clap and applause exactly like you only with out a cloak of clothing and all the finishing’s of admiration.. of which would all disappear along with the clothing if you stripped it all away From the vision board leaders of your dreams ... ( I really mean nightmares ) See primates were no clothing. At least they see what is really there. Ha and even under the clothing (s) they see just fine. Maybe they should have what we have and us what they posses. We saw planet of the apes but we didn’t get the truth well even there we cloaked it for profit .. now go back to sleep sleep sleep. And when you wake start all over again.. with your alarm clock. Ha. Primates have no use for an alarm clock. They have absolute and perfect timing!!!!

If one has the ability to try on someone else's ideas for a while, one won't come back the same. He's brilliant and I can't thank him enough.

What studies? I have never heard or seen these studies?

жаль что нет перевода

It is amazing what good looks and a slick tongue can do to help a con artist.

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43:00 That's it.

Thank you Werner Erhard!

Interesting how he puts together ancient Toltec teachings, existentialism and NLP into a cohesive package.

Thanks for sharing this

I wonder what these two men are thinking about the divoc19 psyop that has succeeded, in part, in isolating people and disempowering them with fear and hence increasing illhealth etc etc.

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EST/Landmark are all based on Taoism and Buddhism - besides the stuff from Scientology that Werner liberated and adjusted. You can get books from the library or listen to Alan Watts lectures on YT and not spend a fortune to get to the same place

Life is actually full of meaning and also, life is not about you.

Really great!

16:00 transformational experience ... realising i waste my life running after things that did had no value...

Thinking themselves to be wise they became fools

The first Guru in the 70s.

One of the greatest super powers of the snake oil trade is the sales persons chameleonesque ability to reinvent themselves. John Rosenberg possesses this power in spades.

"The purpose of the est Training is to transform your ability to experience living so that the things you've been putting up with or trying to change clear up just in the process of life itself." Correct me if I am wrong. Ron Bynum took us through the purpose WORD by WORD by excruciating WORD. Not bad after 47 years. Correct me if I am wrong.

Too bad his work was full of "pressure" to share i.e. sell the programs to everyone you know. It had the vibe of an MLM, I felt I had to be talking to everyone about Landmark or I wasn't playing life to the fullest. In the Forum, they say that pressure doesn't really exist anywhere but in yourself, so that innoculates Landmark ever being at fault in pressuring people. They get a lot of people to provide free labour to keep the organization running, but call it "assisting". He assumed a new identity "Werner Erhard" and quoted German philosophers which gave him an air of being of that ilk by association. I think it's a lot of hot air when you look at the reality of how the organization is run.

What a difference one makes. That is just for the moment if never again!

I actually was in a modern LGAT that originated from Lifespring. After the gaslighting and shaming and realizing that these things were actually happening, I’m pretty sure all these organizations want is money at the expense of people’s need/desire to find purpose.

Speaking of calling bullshit.. Fear make you less human!? That is a ignorant thing to say. And he was talking earlier about not being judgemental? Caring is in our DNA? Thank you ma'am for bringing that up. Because its a very lofty statement. didn't he have an alcoholic father? How many people come from abusive or otherwise dysfunctional homes? All humans aren't frail and fragile.. not true at all!

I'd agree that knowledge is a privilege not a gift or right. And that knowledge we have the ethical obligation to share. Seeking aggrandisement or fame and fortune is a an addiction not a right. To elevate oneself from a gutter must be an obligation and a responsibility of what it is to be a man or whole woman. Perfection is for narcissism and how you wish to be viewed by others. Achievement is that realisation and to strive for enlightenment. Nature has a wisdom and can be used to benefit a deep care for one another. Not for affirmation but to liberate justice and an ethical awareness of exploitation and enslavement to addictions which devalue others and yourself. To share food, shelter and access to water for washing is a must but anything else is irrelevant and unnecessary to survivel. Some have accused me of fascism while others call me a paedophile and disciplinarian. Lots of ignorance and prejudice but no progress in human behaviour or understanding of compassion or the extent of my ruthless discipline to achieve my objective which is to free people of drugs, alcohol and sexual exploitation. These are ethics and I'll die for them. I have no wealth and no ambition to aquire status which corrupts the soul and reduces man to be a slave to another. Emotional blackmail has no value but anger is a natural response to ignorance. But, that does not justify violence because that ambition is alien to me as a sexual drive which I don't share with anyone. Purity has a healing quality and can reduce anger and my respect for others comes through enlightenment of compassion and humility. Until we can share and cooperate we cannot arrive at agreement and conflict will ensue. To be truly free one has to reject pursuit it as a right. I therfore consider animals to be allowed rights to redress abuses we have enacted and we must learn how to show our humility for they are a judgement of civility and dignity. Christ attempted to teach morality and compassion but we need to build upon that mission in order to consider ourselves a civilised and worthy of enslavement to honour animals with love and compassion.

Hi

Отличное шоу, с клакёрами в зале!

EST training may be useful and for that I am glad. However, I would like to point out that each and every aspect of this teaching was taken from other systems and cobbled together. For instance in one conceptual frame, Erhard behaves as a wrathful teacher as per Vajrayana. Except Vajrayana has been around many hundred of years, asks no money, is never cruel and focuses on loving kindness in action. So so so many other systems already set out the teaching of est until this guy claimed ownership of these ideas. I am glad people have benefited however with any cheaper knock off you always receive less. In the original Taoism, Vajrayana, etc etc etc (read for yourself) the goal isn’t puffing up the self and lavishing in the glory of the illusion of self. “Oh I am so amazing” and such. In the teachings ripped off to “create” est the goal was always to help OTHERS to focus on OTHERS to help OTHERS “find themselves” and in the process as the illusions slough off like dead skin, the shining true self comes through. But this self doesn’t need to be confident or clear or strong or wise or ANYTHING other than it is. YOU do not need to be ANYTHING other than what you are. ALL the answers, ALL the huge magic is right here and now. In fact techniques are the greatest barrier! I say this as someone who has deeply practiced everything from esoteric Taoism to Rosicrucianism- Franz Kafka the brilliant writer said it best: “Sit at your desk and listen. Don't even listen, just wait. Don't wait, be still and alone. The whole world will offer itself to you.” You don’t need some famous book or seminar. You don’t need to pay a cent. You don’t need to bleed sweat. True once your path begins you may find you need or want to perform extraordinary physical feats as I have, from gross physical strength and endurance to being able to control my heart rate, blood pressure, pupil dilation (supposedly impossible to do consciously) brain waves and much more. Eventually the path requires guidance once you have sparked the furnace awake. Then you can follow your truth to quiet Zen or the siddhi (the contested yet proven abilities) of Laya Yoga and Kundalini practices and millions of other options. But the START OF YOUR JOURNEY- this isn’t in any book or seminar, this is the quote of Kafka. Just be and allow the world to bloom. Every word in that sentence is important, very important. “Just” is literal. ONLY be. Don’t be thinking or be worrying or be comfortable or uncomfortable or happy or sad JUST BE. “Allow” communicates how the passive can move mountains or change lives, and that it is NECESSARY to allow or you are not “just” being or just allowing. “The world” means everything. And idea ineffable until understood. “Bloom” is evocative but only understood once it happens. Point is you don’t need a secret decoder ring or to join any weird club to find your true best self or to free yourself from illusion. You may end up with one, but the start, just the a Japanese swordmaker, the entirety of the blade or the path is born like a seed in that spark. The spark of just being. I hope I saved someone wasted time, money or confusion. I’ll probably receive hateful messages, I won’t read them. I know what they will say. I know the “so you think ur better than me” and the “my path is perfect you asssnipe!!” and the popular “I didn’t understand what you said so I know your wrong because someone said a lie which I understood!” Etc etc Ego defending itself. That’s expected and I have no Ill will for you folk, I hope you become happier. If anyone resonates with what I’ve said dm me and I’ll tell you much more. I don’t need money or clicks or anything, just offering an actual human dialogue instead of surfing curated videos looking for an answer to a question most of us haven’t yet composed. All beliefs are welcome, all types of people accepted. Nothing is requested- money, clout, authority, zilch. All I ask is that you give anything I say 24 hours before responding so you do not simply re-act to it based on your limitations. Re-act is to act again in the same way. A habit. A habit is a friction against a world which does not follow the same habits and thus is not the best way to process knowledge or to act. Anyways- that’s all. Have a free day! 𓂀

I’m a course supervisor for four years. Always amazed at the depths of the transformation I get to experience and witness and even humbly facilitate on the courses! 😊 The work of Landmark is a blessing for our world by bringing about real forgiveness - the key to happiness.

Descartes Aristotle 41:51 what’s going on with me internally? 52:28 internal dialogue Antonio Demasio Mental state Emotional state Bodily state Thoughts feelings emotions Alcoholics Anonymous 1:23:48

Ever think?? Rudy would be a thing. I could-and would not sell out for. But Rudy would set it square. And you know what? Magic’s still welcome

"Fear makes you less human" ..... really?

Why do these gurus abandoned their families and/or become bigamists?

LOVE LOVE since 1998

I did the training in 1982 and a number of workshops/seminars after that. I even worked as a volunteer. Werner Erhard is one of the greatest of existential thought. However, he is no cure all for real emotional and mental issues. He's a master at getting people to work for him for free. He has a lot to offer people who are emotionally and mentally stable. One thing I did not agree with the Training was to keep trainees up at all hours for two weekends and the yelling and screaming the trainers did to trainees. He capitalized well for himself and for a man with no formal education is quite knowledgable. I enjoyed learning from Werner but was disappointed he did not transform my life true to me. Therefore, I take his wisdom as just general knowledge. The fanatics that follow him are conned. Especially the ones who worked for him for free and pay him. I was one of those and will never again give my time in free labor or pay him.

Did the comedian get the world to laugh?Bet he did.. In The House.

Well, if nothing else, Stanford has a healthy appreciation of irony.

Werner is one of my heroes. Out of my participation in the Forum in Sunnyvale, I won the U.S. espionage terror war in Mexico. I am still being threatened with jail, however, by some socialist terrors who are at Landmark and replicated Werner and I believe ran him off as well from participating. I would like to have my Workers Comp benefits now from when I was injured and kidnapped while a Staff Member at Landmark HQ in San Francisco and taken to Mexico. I have a war syndrome now and would like to be granted the social grace of being allowed to have my own personality while I resolve the imposter spy terror thespian issue there. I am not their replicant. They took out 'the act' distinction and inserted "their needs and wants," down to wanting to control my speaking as an Intro Leader, literally word for word. Werner, can I come back now and ensure the future of Landmark's work? I am the new LEBD out of the War on Terror. We have a cure for a range of neorological disorders. Thank you!!

🙏🏻excuse me but Werner? Ha! I know right! It’s RudyPonzio. The one with all the coffees in south jersey. Yep from One Button wood square. To Spring Garden Street. Ha. Rita Renough forgive. Spelling.... but that Rodger Dillion Guy? What ever you put into that guy’s awareness??? Ha. Thank You Werner. G-d Dame-it Do you have the foggiest idea. Sure you may think you think you know . Believe me all the knowing won’t help You here. Cause what came through to Me. All those and I mean all those Moments ago? Something broader than ever viewed before.. the ASS THAT I AM.. leaves me in the dirt when you Ask me for real relief... NO? Just ask me Dame it! Who knows before we go what else from our holdings will be of complete service ? We sure don’t,...nit I am fully here and filled up with something... Others say they could bask in my banter for almost ever Laugh Out Loud

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His name is John Paul Rosenberg, a former used-car salesman, who deserted his wife and kids. Changing your name, inventing a transforming 'experience' and then citing existentialist philosophers for a living does not change that. The technique of sharing in this video is the same as used in the Forum: using the acting out of one 'authentic' sob story on stage to identify with for others. It's part of the est/LMF 'technology', for invoking empathy etc. .

I could not pass the balance your checkbook test....terrible!

" there is nothing inherently significant" when describing his awakening experience. No God. Then he was free. Yea no longer any limitation and it was up to him (he says 6 times) "They knew it was not going to be Sunday school" His wake up call is the opposite? Werner's definition of "integrity" is the dictionary definition minus the key factor of morality which is number 1 in most definitions. This is key to understanding him and new age thought, There is no evil, and yes there is an experience of freedom when you drop morality and make yourself into God or substitute your self for God. "What drives me is to discover a new meaning for what it means to be human" "what is it to be a self? " "I am" Jesus said "I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the Father but by me" What we need is the forgiveness of God. It's not too late Werner, Come to Jesus his saving grace is beyond any human endeavor. Satan said he would be greater than God. There is no greater love than the Love of Christ, his love for you. Every knee will bow before the Lion and the Lamb.

Poor Dr. Doty getting verklempt.

Let Warner Speke and you quite

The moderator talks too much

you are not your body and mind

Class of 1980

This moderator is awful. Takes liberty to bring chips and other distractions into the very beginning of the talks. Instead of letting Werner set the tone this moderator hogs the scene.

Y’all and your culty comments are creeping me out

What a piece of work. An evil man who has covered up his evil doings. Read the new Wikileaks release.

Frree to bee 🐝🐿️🫂🦋☀️ and free to act Words of acceptance, love... empowerment Tears ... Speak more than 10,000... not judging ... others... or self we are hardwired to care One hour 6 minutes... physiology of caring we only transcend when we look at the other as "us"