Disclaimer: I just discovered the rumored controversy about Kaedim (which I didn’t know about before making this video) Some believe there are real people behind it and build the 3D models manually on demand (that sounds like a weird thing to do). But whether it’s AI or not AI, I’m not in the position to judge it. All I do is try it and show it to you; it’s your choice to use it or not.
I guess the next logical thing is whether it’s worth it or not. Seems to me it’s only a matter of time any way before AI creating 3D models is a thing, if it isn’t already. So, cost is the next step and will be the determining factor really. Kaedim is basically $20 per model so if the results is good maybe it doesn’t matter?
How many times will i have to tell you guys, DO NOT USE Kaedim, it's not an AI 3D Generator if it's was the case, they would not have to make you pay in order to use thier so called AI Generator DON'T USE IT, technology is still far away from a legible 3D Model Generator
As many have said, this is NOT an AI tool, it is human made, I applied for a job there and all the requriments implies that you'll be modeling all day.
@The Padded Cell Everyone is hard wired now to see generate as AI based, this is not the only channel making this. They are taking advantage of people that don't know the correct definitions.
@The Padded Cell they don't need to claim directly when all their marketing is geared towards that, which causes channels like this to spread it is ai, this is not the first channel neither will be the last because of how misleading their whole page/system page looks. You can discuss as much as you want, the marketing by the company is misleading and unfair.
@@kendarr At their doc they state this: "Kaedim Documentation Welcome to Kaedim’s documentation! 🎉 We are happy to have you on board. At Kaedim, we have built Machine Learning algorithms that turn 2D art into 3D content." On the 'how it works' they state this: "Currently, the process looks like this behind the scenes: An input image is submitted and passed through our AI algorithm for reconstruction. The output mesh passes from our Quality Control pipeline to make sure that flaws are eliminated. That process aims to eliminate most of the unwanted technical characteristics of the generated models (i.e. tris, n-gons). A Quality Control team member will check and improve the output where necessary for the 3D model to match our quality standards. Yes, our algorithm is not always perfect, and we want to ensure the output quality is always up to a high standard. The output is returned to the user for further editing and the addition of textures." As someone who is researching this exact procedure and has done 3D works for a long time, this makes me curious.
This is actually not fully AI. 3D modelers are hired to design this within the timeframe. It's just called AI because people will believe in anything under that tag. In my personal opinion, this is a smart way to run a business. The only caveat is that the modelers need to work very fast, but I'm sure if enough experienced artists join this platform, it is possible, until an actual AI modeling program enters the market.
In general, this is not a particularly reasonable way of conducting business, since it misleads the customer into thinking that AI is being used, when in fact humans are also involved. In that case, a statement such as "Created with the help of AI and human assistance" is necessary
How do you know about that, who are the people working manually on these models? at 15$ per item with the subscription (and lower) I doubt they can find anyone working manually for that rate and also make profit as a service.
If the company says it will take a few days to process it's not AI. If it takes a few moments and looks terrible its AI. 2D to 3D is still in it's early stages. The acacado chairs and the toy cars are all really advanced algorithms that aren't available yet to the public and even those that are are really still doing bad in the illumination phase of development. You may get a chair or you will get a chewed up mess. It's still really young but it's cool soon we will have the stable diffusions and the mid journeys of 3D just take a few more months or a couple of years 3D is a lot harder to do than 2D and some could argue harder than video generation
Not a real tool, these are scammers. That’s why it takes more than 1 hour to get your result. They just manually get someone to model it quickly. Search about it.
Aside from controversy on kaedim, at least for now some guys out there still got a job for 3d modeling, not really replaced by AI. Indeed people feel deceived but we can still look at the bright side of it.. But like I said, at least for now. By the way after I checked out their website, I didn't find any claims from them that they used AI, on contrary they clearly stated that they worked closely with 3D artists, and even offer 3D artist to join them "generate" 3D models. So probably it's not controversy, but people just too lazy to read and confirm things.
Wasn't there a controversy regarding kaedim? they had issued quite shady job offers with job descriptions for 3d artists to deliver models in 15 minutes on demand.
Looks like it's either a fake AI tool (although I doubt that would be possible to cover up) or they used those models as training data, so they can say they own the dataset, maybe even sell it in the future. Some more transparency is needed for sure.
How many times will i have to tell you guys, DO NOT USE Kaedim, it's not an AI 3D Generator if it's was the case, they would not have to make you pay in order to use thier so called AI Generator DON'T USE IT, technology is still far away from a legible 3D Model Generator
Fantastic video! I specialize in character design and found Stylar AI very helpful. It's an AI-based design tool that’s easy for designers to use, with great control over models and image output. It's in the early stages and has some bugs, but give it a go!
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I never heard of it. Just googled it and from what I see, it looks like they are using classic Stable Diffusion Inpainting and style transfer which you can do for free on own hardware with Comfy UI or Automatic1111. But I need to give them that they made it simpler to use for less tech-savy people.
as a 3d artist, there is no fkin way AI are this good at Topology. modeling things are one thing, perfectly topologing is something that i dont think AI can do this good.
I wanted to have a car model made for 20 dollars, but after a long wait, I couldn't download it. The support team said they had refunded my money, but there was no refund. There were a few attempts, and I think it might have been overlooked. Since AI with 3D modeling is still a new thing, I believe there are real people behind the scenes fixing the AI's models. I couldn't find any support. The 20 dollars were not refunded, and I do not recommend it to anyone." German Translation: "Ich wollte ein Automodell für 20 Dollar anfertigen lassen, aber nach langer Wartezeit konnte ich es nicht herunterladen. Der Support sagte, sie hätten mein Geld zurückerstattet, aber es gab keine Rückerstattung. Es gab einige Versuche, und ich denke, es könnte übersehen worden sein. Da KI mit 3D-Modellierung noch etwas Neues ist, glaube ich, dass es echte Personen im Hintergrund gibt, die die Modelle der KI korrigieren. Ich konnte keine Unterstützung finden. Die 20 Dollar wurden nicht zurückerstattet, und ich empfehle es niemandem."
Hello, I don’t want to reveal the truth but Everyone has the right to know the truth. Kaedim is a manual work. I was an ex 3D artist of Kaedim. I have to make every model within 15-25minutes. If anyone’s wants to know more let me know. Thanks
I think the idea behind it is great, but when I see the prices I feel different... converting an image costs $20. I prefer to sit down for an hour and make the model myself :D
what programs would you suggest learning if you wanted to move forward with creating models yourself? I know there's a ton and the technology seems to move quick, any recommendations are helpful.
I signed up for this place long ago, and never used it, never could use it, it says it has a trial, but I have nothing in my created home area. and I just found it again, and it still has no trial and still wants credits to work. finding an alternative is what I'm on the hunt for!!
Easiest $20 that modeller ever made, geeza job! Seriously though, if you can't model such a basic design in less than 30 mins, wtf are you doing working in design?
How do you find this to be expensive? 150$ for 10 3d models? If the quality is great, which seems to be the case, for a custom 3d model, it's an insane price. I plan to start using this in about two months, as I need it for my business. Last time I needed something like this, the cheapest decent option for one model was 250$.
naah i'm 3D graphic designer and 150 for this little job is a scam, unless you ask a senor or sth whose experience would justify the cost, i would facture somewhere around 20 to 40
bruh even NVIDIA AI is struggling to create 3D models, you say this app does it??? lol..its a scam, just some bunch of guys at the other side making these quickly for you
@MinhPham, Can You Make One Video About Making Hectohedron With 100 Faces and Show Us how to Place at each Face a Different Picture? I AM Hoping to see You Do That Soon!!!
How many times will i have to tell you guys, DO NOT USE Kaedim, it's not an AI 3D Generator if it's was the case, they would not have to make you pay in order to use thier so called AI Generator DON'T USE IT, technology is still far away from a legible 3D Model Generator
it is NOT AI at all , I tried a very specific 2D illustration and asked for 3D model , kaedim ( pakistanis or indians probably ) are working behind the scene for cheap to create it as fast as they can , when I upload a 3D illustration it's easier for them to recreate it even if it's complexe , when I Insert a simple 2D concept of a character they take like 6 hours to make it happen so NO it's not AI ( you can also find remaining issues in the mesh and random hard edges and metadata )
what, that s not Ai? The ability to create a refined 3d model from 2d image just from ai would have been a great achievement in the world of gaming. But if you say there are modellers behind doing the job, then it still take a shitton of manual work for someone to create 3d model, it s not automated. And this achievement is still unreached
Lol that was my idea when i heard it takes one hour for a simple model to be generated, that it might be just sweatshop modelers behind the scene, and oh, would you look at the comment section 😅
Is there an AI that can rig these 3D models? I need something that can rig different types of characters, whether human, animal, mythical creature, or even objects (e.g., a car whose doors & trunk can open, an umbrella that can be opened & closed, etc.). I’m looking to rig the character’s body, face (for facial expressions), and also their hair & clothing since I want to pose these parts too.
As a developer that can't model, this seems intriguing. Even if it's just a human modeling it, as least SOMEONE is modeling it. I can't tell you how many times I've tried to find someone to make me models but refused due to them being too stuck up and pretentious.
Hi bro, I just got offer 3D artist job from them last month. I took a quick research and there are some youtubers detected that they are fake 3D AI. I tried to get from them a job description file but they just simply silence. So, I consider they are scam. Behind the "in progress" is a 3D artist, a human are doing a modeling job I guess.
Thanks for sharing. I don’t know about that, but paying an actual human to manually build 3D models on demand sounds like a weird thing to scam. At least it got my job done.
Hello, thank you for making this tutorial. I would like to know if you can import more than one 2d reference images into Kaedim, eg: back view or side view of character?
@MinhPhamDesign Do you record your tutorials live and also record the audio as well or do you first record the tutorial then add the audio? Also in regards process: how do you go about scripting for a tutorial, would love to know your proces?
@The Padded Cell Jesus why are you so mad just because that u have anger issues? ⛈⛈Ok fine $20 is not expensive $20 is not expensive you happy now? you should. Have a nice day :)
@@tpbanimations You might not realize this, but Kaedim is not using AI to generate 3D models from 2D images. They are most likely outsourcing the work to human workers overseas who are not credited or paid fairly for their labor. These workers have to produce a model based on the client's image within an hour, which is a very demanding and unrealistic expectation for any 3D artist. Even if we assume that the workers get all the $20 per render (which they don't), that's still a very low rate for such a complex and skilled task. The average hourly wage for a 3D artist in the US is $31.10, and that's for normal working conditions, not for rushing to meet impossible deadlines. All in all, considering what you're getting within an hour timeframe, it's pretty inexpensive, but dubiously ethical.
I can't wait till A.I can really do this! I can model these but I would rather A.I fart it out in 5 seconds. (Yes, I know kaedim3d use humans) I'm just speaking about the future!
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20 bucks for a basic capsule primitive with arms and legs??? - It seems to be true that people are making tons of money with this (cough, cough)... "AI" thingy.
i am in fond of your website really i don't see such an amzaing thing like that the design and the ux/ui coming from other world , really i want to know if you are really who make that website by alone,or there is some help because i need one like it fr thats my comment,impression as user (hover to see my dev opinion)..... nothing happen right,because that shit is speechless i can't say in words descriping how hard it is,also i can't make that effect tbh😂😂
This is the first I've ever personally heard of this, how does it fair against more complex things? Does it have to be isolated in the image with no background?
Its very funny ))) Im totally sure its not AI or something, Its just a bunch of people somewhere in Mumbai working for a 20$ for 3D model. Not a bad freelance I told you. ))))