Converting devices to USB Type-C 

Hi very Great video, :D

Thank you for link 👍

DIY Perks - Thanks for pointing out the breakout boards. Those will be handy for some future projects. Once again, this was a very, very good video. 👍🏻

Matt, please do the old laptop to webcam conversion video.

Here before 300 views!!

I can't get that image out of my head now. Thanks.

Tf haha

haha yea I thought I was the only one good thing it not just me,

NASA official this so accurate

@NASA Official, you're partly right: he remembered it, and he's tickled because he's NOT telling you! 🤣

ya mee too like the one that you repurposed an old laptop (even though all of the ones i tried failed );

USB C to A adapters are readily available and have the added bonus of acting as an OTG adapter for USB-C phones.

@@soundspark this is true but on some laptops the ssmc ports are to close together to put 2 usb-c to usb adapters next to each other. (i can't even plug in a hdmi cable and usb-c to usb adapter next to one another)

Yeah

usb a to usb c is realy pointless. most computers use usb a

He does, but this one seems a bit ridiculous considering you can buy an adapter that looks way better and it barely larger than the one he made. You still have to charge your device with the old USB cable anyway.

Skills aren't necessarily easily accessible and patience is sparse in the world. Knowledge is widely available too but like I said, patience and understanding are utterly necessary.

memberwhen you have missed that the whole point is that this is better than using an adapter 🤦🏼‍♂️ (see 8:20)

@@NullHyp 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ there are 1000s of adapters that dont have a wire and are exactly as the on he made but more quality and reliable

And requires high skill, knowledge and various gadgets. yet it is fascinating for people, more patient and skilled then your average Joe like myself.

He built his own dongle instead... Big whoop

@@ForeverMan did you watch the video? don't think you did.

ah the dongle life

Matt is one of the rare few that proves you don't have to be an Apple Sheeple.

Man Lil I like my Apple gear and also liked this video. Try being one of the rare few who believe not everything is black and white.

Saw this as well

as he was explaining it I was wondering why he didn’t do that

Yes, but it will require much more precision

It’s addictive honestly. In my spare time I research PC components.

Patton Durio ive spent 10 days researching my dream pc. its fun.

Can you make a video on converting a tablet to USB-c Female connector ... thx1000000

I'm about to break out my old tools

@@redbugg99 I think most of the connectors are SMD, so uhh if you have steady hands and specialised tools, sure go for it

Pretty much. Type C adoption rate is slower than connectivity advancement. And bastard companies like to reinvent the wheel with proprietary connectors.

i know things like that have happened many times and maybe im being too optimistic ( though im pretty pessimistic generally) but i really think the usb c connector will be around as the primary physical format for awhile. the protocols will continue to be updated but i think usb c has at least another 5 to 10 years. hopefully more. its hard to imagine lutgrowing it any time soon especially considering what thunderbolt 3 can put through it

@@_BangDroid_ it took USB 1 a few years to be popular on devices and the expense that went into creating USB C is too much for companies to give up on this early.

as long as smartphone companies adopted USB C it will still be leading except when they go full wireless which isn't that far.

not sure, even micro usb was a step in the right direction, remember that every manufacturer had different connectors before! I'm optimistic

I almost had a heart attack while screaming, "just unsolder a move the resistor"

@@DavidTelesPortugal hahahahhahahhaha me too!

You can, but most people aren't too good at soldering SMD components so it's technically easier the way he did it for most people so I guess that this is the reason why he did it like that. Though it kinda hurts my eyes mashing non SMD components onto such a tiny board.

Also it's more likely for people to have normal resistors at home than SMD components and DIY Perks projects are intended to be done with stuff you are more likely to have at home.

In fact yes one side of both pads connects to the pins on the USB while the other pins connect to VCC and GND. Swapping the position of the resistor would in fact change the mode

Im not a well versed in circuitry, but I did wonder why he didn't just do that, because all he said was its a resistor configuration, and it defaults with the resistor there.

Yeah someone clearly went to the trouble of making these boards as easy as possible to switch, and he just destroys the trace and slaps an absolute unit of a resistor on there. Just sliding the resistor over to the other pad means you don't need to have spare resistors on hand, and you don't have to guess at resistor voltage.

I also was surprised! This info should be included in the video!

@@armLocalhost Its possible he did it this way to be more approachable for novices. I understand there are like 3 kinds of circuit components delineated by the method of soldiering. And that resistor looks like one of the harder ones to play with. But again, i know nothing so I could be wrong.

@@Justowner I disagree, from a novice standpoint it is harder to scrap the pad, track down the correct resistor, solder it in place without the leads making contact with anything else. While it is harder to work with small components (ie. surface mount) and when de-soldering the resistor it is useful to actually add some solder (due to lead solder having a lower melting point and flowing easier than unleaded solder used in manufacturing the component), it is well within the range of a novice. (If someone feels uncomfortable with moving the resistor than this is not a project the novice should be undertaking considering the risk level to the more expansive computer).

thats exactly what i thought and im watching the dude for the first time

i think the same

Completely agree

@@oscr_zen long time subcriber here, yeah the quality he puts out is on a whole another level its so professional it doesn't even look diy. the tutorial from start to end product looks so clean and he always comes up with some the most simple and effective mechanisms, he's so creative.

r/TIL

You can actually fry your laptop, not worth it.

Plus that chip with the resistance on that gren thing will fry too.

highsoap underrated comment 👏🏽

Reek had to do something after that bad part of his life

USB-D would not help my laptop.

drippingwax What about USB E?

@@kzed USB-1701-E?

drippingwax nah i’m just joking lol

Usbeetroot

They do that to baby boys in some parts of the world too

@@LexTNeville Yeah, but it's not as bad as people make it out to be. It's actually good for them.

@@namelessdisasters Circumcision is only indicated if there is phimosis that can't be resolved without any other approach.

- Said every Jewish parent of an 8 day old ever

@Josh -_- Takes like 0.5 seconds to clean under the shower, and protects the glans skin, so... not so much of a chore to wash yourself

and the fact that it just worked too I love it

I looked up the Flir One Pro Type-C for my android and it's $295 😱

it *isn't* being turned into type C Micro-b is effectively USB 2.1, which has far lesser power and data transfer speeds than the USB 3.2 Gen 2 that type-A uses.

hello there, we meet again

@@lord_scrubington Sorry but there isn't relation beetwen usb versions and plug versions

Not untill he covers installing AOSP, or Linux on old macbooks.

i dont think things changed in this market for that reason. Royalties though make you question this, but think about how fast consumer electronics have changed over the last twentie years.

@Nikcats cool. Thermal. 😒

more like kinda hot...because body temp is 37 C.

Yeah, it is cool. None of us are hot

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the same here.

yeah, this is big brain time.

Me: Buy a small sleek usba to usbc adapter $7. Done.

Me: goes and buys the one he said was "significantly" bigger then the one he made cuz it was just slightly bigger

@@KAriedoll The slightly bigger ones that are like 2 quid for a multi-pack on Amazon (with the added bonus of either allowing you to actually revert your "new and improved" USB device back to a standard Type-A plug when needed without a soldering station XD )

I'm you, but better.

I’m you, but reversible.

I'm you, but on both sides of the cable.

@@honk4311I'm you, but you will never know what i actualy said.

@@itspop4real272 I'm you, but well played.

using a tht resistor instead of smd kills me from the inside

The pull-up value of a DFP resistor is very different from the pull-down value of an UFP resistor. He would need a different SMT resistor anyway, which I imagine he doesn't have in his drawers.

@@jeromevuarand3768 Would still be easier to desolder the existing resistor, rather than cut the trace.

@@tanielgulian419 Also, wasn't that a half Watt resistor!

@@Ryuseigan By the looks of it

I agree at my age it's a extremely difficult to see things as well. Micro micro then Nano. When is enough enough

Sugreeeew

lol

lol

Wait what really, I never knew that. By the way keep up the good work Matt!

Ditto. Do you know him irl or how do you know such things about his personal life?

@@Staroy no no, i wish i did lol. i follow him on twitter and he’s mentioned it a couple times before. i wish him all the best in life

He must've been quite a cute baby with such an expressive face.

Me

I might try this for a much older device to be honest something that I have laying around the house that I'm just not using anymore

I definitely would not fuck with anything that I'm currently using though for fear of destroying it

Me for one. But I like this, I will keep watching cos maybe, someday I'll do something.

More like I watched this to make sure that trying it is actually a waste of time.

the worst part of type C, less robust than type A...

Honestly I don’t understand why people have so much trouble with that

@@burgernthemomrailer just how it ends up going. People end up fiddling with the stupid connector several times until they get it right, at least when they don't first look at things to make sure everything's flipped the right way.

Headphone jack users : *laughs in 360*

@@mikeycrackson they already did, you just havent bought them yet...

thx for this, it was instrumental

CC1 and CC2 are names that are only used for receptacles (sockets), not for plugs. For a USB-C plug those pins are called CC (A5) and VCONN (B5), and for a plug integrated into a device (as in the examples in this video) only the CC pin has a 5.1K resistor to GND (for a sink) or 56K resistor to VBUS (for a source), while the VCONN pin is left unconnected. And while a sink device with a USB-C _receptacle_ should indeed pull down both CC1 (A5) and CC2 (B5), each of these two pins *must* have its own separate 5.1K pulldown to GND. If you erroneously tie CC1 and CC2 together and use a single shared pulldown then your device will fail to receive any power when using certain cables (specifically active or tagged cables).

he has to keep up the illusion that surface mount soldering is too hard for westerners or youtube isn't going to continue to push him views and subscribers.

@@MatthijsvanDuin So what are you saying? That you can't just solder a resistor to the R2 pads?

@@micnolmadtube I was saying majdinj's description of what happens when you do this procedure (on an electrical level) was incorrect, and they also had the pull-up resistor value wrong. However, the procedure should still yield the desired result of reconfiguring the role of the board. Specifically, if a USB-C male connector board has one resistor placed and one spot for an unplaced resistor then it seems very likely that indeed these are for pulling CC either up or down to configure the role of the board: - 5.1 kΩ pull-down from CC to GND for sink role, or - 56 kΩ pull-up from CC to VBUS for source role (can alternatively be 22 kΩ if you can safely source 1.5A of current, or 10 kΩ if you can safely source 3A of current) Hence, if the board comes configured into source role by the presence of a pull-up resistor, then removing that resistor and soldering a 5.1 kΩ resistor at the _other_ location should reconfigure the board into sink role. For a USB-C _female_ connector board things are similar except it has two CC pins to deal with, hence it will need either two pull-ups (one from CC1 to VBUS and one from CC2 to VBUS) or two pull-downs (one from CC1 to GND and one from CC2 to GND). The resistor values remain the same. Here's a full description of the all four legacy USB 2 to USB-C conversions: (any pins not mentioned are unused and must be left unconnected) USB 2 host/source to (male) USB-C plug: pins A1,B1,A12,B12 and shield are GND and must all be connected together pins A4,B4,A9,B9 are VBUS and must all be connected together pin A5 is CC and needs a 56 kΩ resistor to VBUS pin A6 is D+ pin A7 is D− pins B6 and B7 have no contacts in a USB-C plug USB 2 device/sink to (male) USB-C plug: pins A1,B1,A12,B12 and shield are GND and must all be connected together pins A4,B4,A9,B9 are VBUS and must all be connected together pin A5 is CC and needs a 5.1 kΩ resistor to GND pin A6 is D+ pin A7 is D− pins B6 and B7 have no contacts in a USB-C plug USB 2 host/source to (female) USB-C receptacle: pins A1,B1,A12,B12 and shield are GND and must all be connected together pins A4,B4,A9,B9 are VBUS and must all be connected together pin A5 is CC1 and needs a 56 kΩ resistor to VBUS pin B5 is CC2 and needs a 56 kΩ resistor to VBUS pins A6 and B6 are D+ and must be connected together (as close to the connector as possible) pins A7 and B7 are D− and must be connected together (as close to the connector as possible) USB 2 device/sink to (female) USB-C receptacle: pins A1,B1,A12,B12 and shield are GND and must all be connected together pins A4,B4,A9,B9 are VBUS and must all be connected together pin A5 is CC1 and needs a 5.1 kΩ resistor to GND pin B5 is CC2 and needs a 5.1 kΩ resistor to GND pins A6 and B6 are D+ and must be connected together (as close to the connector as possible) pins A7 and B7 are D− and must be connected together (as close to the connector as possible)

Yeah, reversible is still inferior to Circular, as they can be inserted in any direction.

360 plugablity

C isn t better because is reversible ,but is alot faster ..... oh wait it wasn t iphone who came first with data /power cable reversible? Now we know the beef between us and china step by step >.,

Owletterishere long live dc barrel plugs

@@ssj5AX are you sure about the USA and China thing

I thought the same lol

Had the same thought. Looks pretty clear that those pads are meant to be configured by the end user if needed. Could even use the same surface mount resistor.

Yep, my thought (or yelling at my monitor) as well.

Yes, that's certainly meant that way.

It's less fun that way though :P

If you have the soldering iron he's using, it's... a fair bit trickier to do, but you could do it.

Nathan Savage good spot

Desoldering such small elements isn't simple

I assumed the same thing...

It is a bit tricky with a soldering iron, it would be better with a hot air rework station.

I _would_ like but it's at 69

@@watema3381 amazingly, it's 2 years later and it still is at 69

@@namewarvergeben Let us meet again in two years time!

Combat engineers like me doesn't really know about engineering

@@draz9765 cool

usb still did a pretty good job at being "universal" , even tough there are multiple usb standards. Just imagine for a moment you'd had to use a different cable for a mouse than for a keyboard and some weard extra-plug for flash drives.... thats what it would be like without usb...

@@danieleckert5008 Yes i know, it is just a joke, because you need to ask a question "which one" when talking about a USB cable.

Lol... when someone doesn't get a universal joke

When the old one gets barely universal they introduce new one ...so i don't think that it is ever going to be universal 🤣🤣

@@OwaisAbbasiMrWOLF The new ones are always backwards compatible, which is what gives usb C so much potential. I'd say for many years this may be the standard to go with. We can already see its widespread adaption across stubborn brands of the likes of apple, samsung, HP, so on. This cable not only provides USB 3 speeds, but at a smaller form factor than the original connectors, not to mention alternate mode. while the old variations on USB-A and B were host-slave specific (with a few exceptions, USB OTG for example), an all-in-one port that can act as both and is completely reversible shows a unique departure from older standards. I think you're undervaluing how much of a leap this connector is.

With USB-C.

I want to extract the webcam from a dead laptop.

@@louistournas120 he made a video on that

Maybe add a hardware disconnect switch to the webcam

Tim Romero hmmm you have to think tho if they are using usb c they may have all those extra wires

Me too.

The listings linked also have female adapters. I got some C to Micro PCB adaptors a while back and converted some of my devices with internal ports. Have to open the hole as the adapter offsets the plug a few mm.

It should be, as long as the device that uses it is does not require a lot of power or you're expecting sky high transfer speeds.

Yeah, this would make for a great follow up video. Most of my problem these days is devices that need me to plug in micro USB, because the manufacturer is still living in the past and thinks anyone still wants micro USB. We don't. Stop it, manufacturers.

;D

every apple fanboy cries too , lol, stuck with their stupid apple cables that break within a week of use

@@girlsdrinkfeck really are they that fragile

girlsdrinkfeck I have used the same Apple cable for almost a year and it has not broke.

@@doblin6414 same. The irony is that the original Apple cables last forever (unless you bend them like crazy), meanwhile third-party ones last me a few months.

ahahh same. Surely its not much effort to order some at the same time as the breakouts. And it looks like R1/R2 correspond to the host/sub config? So potentially able to change it without any other components if the pullup/pulldown is the same value edit: just saw a bunch of other comments with the same observations. Also cutting the trace to Vbus and bridging it to gnd should have worked

That soldering, loose data wires, it's some hardcore stuff over here, but it awesome that it works that way anyone can do it 😁 no hate, not everyone is good at everything 👍🏻

@@TheSecondSomething Precisely, the pads are there, bridging is also valid option, but still no hate or anything as the idea showed in the video is great

@@jaroslavpetardyson5666 I actually found it more comfortable, as someone with zero experience, that they are not like factory-made, but are flimsy and funny, it's always scary to try out something new, like DIY, and your devices look abysmal in comparison. This just reassures you that you can try and it's not a problem if they look kinda meh.

Can someone provide an example of what better would look like?

he already has ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CouxmNqxO4A.html

@Evangelo Goodwin, Mat asked at the end of the video if the viewers wanted him to do a video specifically about making a web cam.

Canon released some new software that allows you to use their DSLRs as a web cam.

A webcam made from an old smartphone would be substantially higher video quality than one from an old laptop.

@@mrh5303 Exactly! I changed the old scrapped lappy cameras in my Ebay watch list to Smart phone cameras as 'spares' for that very reason. Seems obvious really..

Maan Alaulaqi yes pleaaase I have so many old cameras from blackberry and S3s lol

I think most people have broken phones lying around rather than broken laptops lol.

Cameras in phones are typically much better quality than those in laptops a well

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@@RavneelChand The reason they are often better quality is the way they hook into the device. A laptop camera is generally connected through a form of internal USB/Serial bus while on a phone it usually hooks straight to the processor(?) or processing chip of some sort. Meaning it will not only be hard to convert but also allows it to have more bandwidth. It doesnt really make sense in my head, but thats what I've been told some year ago.

Same reaction here, respect for the Polish solder :D

same here :)

Connectors are also more likely to break so if it breaks you can get it fixed by just putting in a new board with the port on it :D

Th3dkbay if that’s true, it kinda proves that the company isn’t trying to squeeze every dollar in your pocket by making a connector that doesn’t require the whole device and board to be disassembled when changed, unlike other companies whose name i won’t write... 🍎

@@marioghioneto1275 apple

@@marioghioneto1275 idk if you know but it's pretty common practice Apple, Samsung etc. Basically do this in almost all their devices