Coptic: The Final Ancient Egyptian Language 

Where are the links you said would be in the description please?

Can you do a video on Lilith?

I crave the sources you promised to put in the description!

Thanks for an interesting video. I'm surprised you didn't mention that the current Egyptian arabic dialect is heavily influenced by coptic and earlier Egyptian languages. This includes both vocabulary and grammar.

@@nathangibbons9492 q

Peace 🕊 my friend, from 🇬🇷 Our nation state and the orthodox coptic community of Egypt have always stool for each other

i'm a Iberian i have Coptic DNA , and DNA links to Ptolemaic mummies seems i got important ancestors despite today be too poor

Same here!

@@sarantis1995 I'm a Syriac Christian. Love to all my Middle Eastern as well as Orthodox Christian Brothers/Sisters worldwide, Coptic, Greek, Russian, Ukrainian, Armenian, everyone!

@@nithin_5896 If only we didn't live in the most bloodshed place of the world

Final boss with multiple stages.

@@vlc-cosplayer" Trying to create the mother of all languages here jack, can't fret over every syllable.

@@ReligionForBreakfast I like language videos.

I mean, modern English isn't its final form, either. 😉

ikr right i dont even know my last name yet till i get there.

How did you learn? Were you just familiar with the texts they used liturgically or Coptic in general?

Knew? You forgot your language?

@@AmandaRussell903 it happens I watched a video about a linguist who taught his baby Klingon just to see if he could. He only ever spoke to his baby in Klingon and his wife used English. The kid started babbling and then speaking some Klingon. Showing the same patterns as a child learning any other language. But once the kid realized no one else uses it they slowly stopped using it and know as a teen doesn’t remember any of it. So it’s definitely possible to forget a language

@@sk1ppercat912 yeah it just happens all the time. like a lot of 2nd/3rd generation Americans who originally spoke a different language, like fpr me French, if you don’t keep speaking consistently you grow up and forget most of not all of it

I knew omega to ti

Greetings from El-Minya👏🏻💪🏻

Can he teach me?

do you speak Arabic?

@@starcapture3040 unfortunately I don’t really yet, only basic words and expressions. However, I do speak ans read (modern) Hebrew and it does help with my Arabic ahah. Why ?

@@Figue- it dose help because they have common sounds but hirgalphis too have common sounds with Arabic learn to read it first nd everything else will b much easier for you. Egypt is top scammer country you can't survive it without learning how to read Arabic at least.

I've been looking for partners to practice Coptic with for, like, ages! Any chance we can chat somewhere or perhaps even open a group for this subject?

I understand nobody can't talk or understand or talk old egyptyan...coptyc might have some similarity ...but not that close to old egyptian..is that true?

hi love your videos

unfortunately, a lot of people don't know the role of the egyptian priest father John (abouna yohana) in helping champollion in translating the Rosette stone

interesting

smoothest self promotion i have ever seen.

@@djehuti5571 Yes, dear old Yuhanna Chiftichi, I talk about him in my video on Champollion!

If you type Copts, Google For arts and culture, you will find that it says that the percentage is more than thirty percent, and this is the percentage that Christians say is their percentage. Even the Arab Wikipedia says that their percentage is ten to twenty and used the term Nassara He said he thought their percentage was ten percent and he was mocking their beliefs I am a religious man of Muslim origin. I say that it is impossible for the number of Christians in Egypt to be less than twenty percent. There is a monastery in Egypt in the month of the eighth that has eight million people attending it, and the vast majority of my Christian friends have not visited it. The largest governorate in southern Egypt, half of which is Christian. The second largest governorate in Upper Egypt, 40%. Statistics show that the area with the least Copts in Egypt is Mansoura, and 17% of the students in my college in Mansoura are Christians. The largest area in all of Cairo is Shubra and is inhabited by two million people, including a million and a half Christians

I am sorry that you gave it up.

cant find many jobs with it@@BaxorUpGreat

Is there any way you can send me your papers on coptic grammar and vocabulary to me? Plz reply to me to get in touch 🙏 🙏

When they use Coptic liturgically, you don't feel like you're missing out on intelligibility?

@@stevenv6463 not really because you can understand most of the words with practice, plus there's usually translations side by side in English and Arabic

@@stevenv6463 How?

@@oraetlabora1922 as in you would understand better in English, Arabic or whatever the local language is, no? You don't feel like you're missing out because you don't understand the language like your native language.

@@stevenv6463 Yes, but studying another language is also possible. That is that about which philology is.

Yeah it’s generally a grad level course, for no good reason imo

What University? Did it happen to be Yale? (I've taken the History of the Era associated with New Testament. My interests are around the subject and I have one of my degrees in History. Dale Martin. Professor Emeritus, Yale taught the class. Was wonderful.

@@bethbartlett5692 @Beth Bartlett no it was Rice University, professor April DeConick who has actually been mentioned on this channel before, in the video on mandaeism xD

@@emmy3335 Wow! I have read a few of April's books.

I am Indonesian but i am so excited too, bcoz i love everything about coptic, Egypt and Egyptian christian 🤗🤗

Oriental Orthodox?

@@gringo3002 yes, but specifically Coptic Orthodox. There are multiple churches that fall under Oriental Orthodox umbrella.

Please learn the language and don't let yourself get culturally genocided by Arabs.

I wonder whether Duolingo will consider adding these languages. Maybe they can add ancient Greek and Hittite too....

Aramaic is still a living language...

They do.......somtimes......at least in germany are severale coptology degree courses for example in Münster.

@@JacquesMare if they can add Klingon and High Valerion they can add Coptic

@@mikeharrison1868 aye but it's still an important language in classical studies

Can you speak it??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

RA BLESS YOUR PEOPLE

Coptic is synonymous of Egyptian. You don’t need to be “Coptic” to be native Egyptian. In fact, the vast majority of Muslim Egyptians descend from Egyptians that were Coptic Christians and later on converted to Islam. When the Arabs conquered Egypt, they forced the population to either pay taxes (Jizya) or convert and become Muslims. The majority of the people couldn’t afford a constant taxation in order to preserve the Christian faith.

@@EGYPT.ATREES Muslim Egyptians are less related to ancient Egyptians by 18% when compared to the ethnoreligious Copts, who by definition , practice endogamy. Muslims have no restrictions on whom to hybridize with.

@@EGYPT.ATREES Anecdotal personal dna tests are not the same as peer reviewed scientific evidence. It remains a scientific fact that there is a strong Coptic genetic component which differentiates Copts as being the most closely related to their ancient Egyptian forebears due to the historical and cultural practice of endogamy .

There’s lots of…”Pope types” to quote the late great Christopher Hitchens.

There’s lots of…”Pope types” to quote the late great Christopher Hitchens.

So Oriental Orthodoxy has Popes?

​@@gringo3002Pope may just mean the Bishop of an Apostolic See.

​@gringo3002 Also, "Pope" and "Patriarch" both mean "father" in Greek. The Patriarch of the Greek Eastern Orthodox is also sometimes called the "Pope and Patriarch of Alexandria."

You're an Arab, you've never been a real Egyptian. Go research the Arab invasion.

@@jannguerrero Most Egyptian Muslims are not Arabs They may have mixed with Arabs but still generally closer to coptic Egyptians genetically nonetheless

No need. Egypt is an Arab-Muslim nation, part of Islamic civilization. Acknowledging Coptic history is fine, no needed to waste time teaching it in schools. Egypt needs to improve its teaching of math, physics, civic and political sciences, arts etc instead.

@@mansur8451 it’s not a waste of time to spend time on your ancestors language. People should be allowed to understand where their people came from.

@@jannguerrero I may have Arabic, Greek or Turkish ancestry, I can't say for sure, but what I know is that the majority of modern day Egyptians are the descendants of the same Egyptians that lived here 1000s of years ago, Egyptians were never annihilated, ethnically cleansed or genocided in any period in history, so their blood still lives in us

Calm down Everybody has synchronicities happen, nice aren't they :⁠-⁠)

Sidenote, I doubt it would be as detailed of an episode, but I would be interested to know a little bit more about old church Slavonic.

@@BaronEurchild Me too!

@portable-cimbora but it directly descents from ancient Egyptian, if I’m not mistaken.

these acts are lead by the secret police to create division to oppress political parties and the opposition coming from the Muslim majority and BTW Copts aren't angels they can be as scheming and propagandists for the Egyptian dictatorship

getting rid of those Islamists a$$holes in power may as well be the only good thing the modern regime did. They would've made Egypt into such a terror that ISIS would've been a Disneyland by comparison. to this day there still is abductions and executions against coptic christians, however the country is regaining control and is getting a lot safer

just one you heard of? lol there have been hundreds in the past decade.

Not only once since their Arabian conquer to us to this day but the church is alive by God's grace.

@@zombieat I mentioned that one attack in my comment. Feel free to list others.

I would put in a good word for Eastern Syriac Nestorius is the most underrated saint

@@zimriel *most appropriately forgotten heretic

Old Church Slavonic is not an ancient language.

​@@ijnfrt Yep, medieval.

Old Church Slavonic is hardly underrated and hardly ancient

Real 💯

That's next episode. Than the Maronite Levant dialect after.

@@loveandmercy9664 Maronite Arabic is spoken in Cyprus, Palestine and Lebanon with each distinct sub dialects

Akkadian?

Oujai actually means goodbye not hello

As a Coptic Christian glad you are learning Coptic though

Why

بتلاقي فين مصادر كويسة للدراسة؟ أنا مش لاقي أي مصدر عربي كويس حتى شارح الأبجدية القبطية، فضلا عن اللغة

@@msba7 there's a playlist of roughly 33 videos named "Coptic Language Lessons (CYC)", it's the best thing to get you started. after that you have to go to a university course , there's no other way ..yet

@@msba7 If need be, talk to a priest or monk.

Did you learn from just reading and hearing it a lot of did you study the language more closely?

​@@coolbrotherf127 Considering he put an Egyptian flag there I believe he is a copyic orthodox christian like myself and learns and reads it in church and sunday schools.

Wow, you are the real Egyptian, bravo!!

@@dojamouse9455 damn i smell that sarcasm all the way from over here. Bravo!

@@felobatirmoheb4884 did i say something wrong? If so i am sorry, bcoz as i know the real Egyptian is "the coptic people" other than that they are just imigrated from surrounding country

Coptic hasn't been spoken other than a liturgical language at least in a widespread way since the middle ages. There were reports of small communities of speakers even up to the early 20th century, though this would have been quite rare. But I know there's a course being taught in Jerusalem where they're teaching it like a spoken language.

If Hebrew can than why not? Aramaic is having a comeback.

check out this guy, he's part of the Coptic revivalist movement in Egypt, tho he makes very few videos in English (mostly aimed at Egyptians) ru-vid.com

@@loveandmercy9664 Hebrew was useful for communication between Jews in Israel who spoke different native languages. Aramaic speakers are found in both Iraq and Turkey and speak different languages. Meanwhile, most Coptic Christians already Egyptian Arabic. There isn't the same need for Coptic in that case.

The best person to talk to is a monk.

Ugh, take my upvote.

While sorcery is not something practiced by Copts, it was widely practiced in rural Fellahin Egyptian villages.

​@@user-pv4mn6dn6dunfortunate it's still practiced today in Egypt too... As an Egyptian I have heard so many cases of family being put under sorcery spells by others with harmful intentions... Some actual egyptologists higher them to break the spells from pharaonic antiquities as well, it's just very hidden off

Oriental Orthodox?

There needs to be more videos on Aram and the Arameans.

If you type Copts, Google For arts and culture, you will find that it says that the percentage is more than thirty percent, and this is the percentage that Christians say is their percentage. Even the Arab Wikipedia says that their percentage is ten to twenty and used the term Nassara He said he thought their percentage was ten percent and he was mocking their beliefs I am a religious man of Muslim origin. I say that it is impossible for the number of Christians in Egypt to be less than twenty percent. There is a monastery in Egypt in the month of the eighth that has eight million people attending it, and the vast majority of my Christian friends have not visited it. The largest governorate in southern Egypt, half of which is Christian. The second largest governorate in Upper Egypt, 40%. Statistics show that the area with the least Copts in Egypt is Mansoura, and 17% of the students in my college in Mansoura are Christians. The largest area in all of Cairo is Shubra and is inhabited by two million people, including a million and a half Christians

That’s true! His knowledge of Coptic was instrumental in his decipherment of hieroglyphs. At the time it was still undecided whether Coptic was descended from the ancient Egyptian language, and Champollion’s decipherment proved that it was.

Champollion needs to be elevated as a saint in all our churches

that s true

If you type Copts, Google For arts and culture, you will find that it says that the percentage is more than thirty percent, and this is the percentage that Christians say is their percentage. Even the Arab Wikipedia says that their percentage is ten to twenty and used the term Nassara He said he thought their percentage was ten percent and he was mocking their beliefs I am a religious man of Muslim origin. I say that it is impossible for the number of Christians in Egypt to be less than twenty percent. There is a monastery in Egypt in the month of the eighth that has eight million people attending it, and the vast majority of my Christian friends have not visited it. The largest governorate in southern Egypt, half of which is Christian. The second largest governorate in Upper Egypt, 40%. Statistics show that the area with the least Copts in Egypt is Mansoura, and 17% of the students in my college in Mansoura are Christians. The largest area in all of Cairo is Shubra and is inhabited by two million people, including a million and a half Christians

Coptic and Arabic are actually related as both are members of the Afro-Asiatic family of languages. Coptic belongs to the Egyptian branch while Arabic belongs to the Semitic branch. Arabic has increasing becoming the dominant language even among the Copts themselves over the course of centuries. The last vestiges of vernacular Coptic had died out by the 16th or 17th Centuries CE though it persisted for several decades in some rural areas. Coptic is not a single language but rather a family of closely dialects descended from Ancient Egyptian language. They also differ from one another terms of their phonology, morphology, and vocabulary. These dialects are diverging from each other to become separate languages. Major dialects of Coptic are Sahidic, Bohairic, Akhmimic, Fayyumic, Lycopolitan, and Oxyrhynchite. From 325-800CE, the Sahadic dialect flourished as the literary language throughout Egypt. The Coptic language preserved by the Coptic Church is the Bohairic dialect which was spoken in the Nile Delta. In recent decades, there are attempts and proposals to revive Coptic as a vernacular. It will not be easy as vernacular Coptic has been extinct for around 400-500 years. Coptic linguistic experts can create a standardized form of vernacular Coptic by combining the phonology, morphology, and vocabulary of all known dialects of Coptic. New terms, words and phrases can be created from archaic Coptic ones as well as giving them new meaning. The most practical approach is to adopt loanwords from other languages preferably related languages. Since Coptic and Arabic are related, loanwords will be predominantly derived from Arabic as it is the language of all Egyptians(Christians and Muslims).

It was forced not adopted and punishment was cutting tongue. Nice taqiya 👍

@@terminator1694 THANK YOU,‼️

@@terminator1694 Arw you really generlizing a 25 year period on 1400 years?!

​@@terminator1694Source, please?

Pls be proud of what you achieve, not how you were born as. No one chooses where they get born.

@@raymonko And why is that ? Why can't you be proud of your ancestors' accomplishment ?

@@cavithalilparlak2264 As I mentioned because we don't choose how we are born! And creating pride based on nationality and racial basis creates all kinds of issues including prejudices against others. Looking back to determine how privileged we are had proven to be detrimental. I know it sounds benign but it is not.

From what I understand, the Greeks conquered a large area, at one time.

@Gringo300 * yeah, most of the known world at that time. From the Danube river in the Balkans to Indus river in India and from the steppes of Central Asia to the Sahara Desert.

@@prchdm Also, from what I understand, there were a lot of people who weren't ethnic Greek who were fluent in Greek at that time. Another thing, from what I understand, Arabs started out in a much smaller area and gradually conquered more and more area.

Muslims not arabs

@@ahmedelkhwaga2751 They were Arab Muslims The ethnic and cultural identity of the early conquerors should not be ignored on the pretext that they only wanted to spread religion

Btw Some families still till now Speak Coptic as their mother tongue, I can speak it but unfortunately wasn’t my mother tongue

He's translating for a Latin audience, this is how Latins pronounce this name today. Likewise Copts have their pronunciation of Greek names which do not match how Greeks spoke at the time

Coptic is not a single language but rather a family of closely related dialects descended from Ancient Egyptian language. However, the dialects differ from one another in terms of their phonology, morphology, and vocabulary. This meant Coptic dialects are diverging from each other on the path of becoming separate languages. This is analogous to how regional dialects of Latin spoken throughout the Roman Empire diverged from each other to become separate languages under its own family of languages known as Romance languages. Reviving Coptic as a vernacular requires a lot of work. Coptic had ceased being a vernacular language since the 1500s or 1600s and the usage has been restricted as liturgical language of the Coptic Church especially the Bohairic Coptic dialect. Coptic specialists can create a standardized form of vernacular Coptic by combining the phonology, morphology, and vocabulary of all Coptic dialects. The language lacks modern terms, words and expressions due to the fact that it cease being a vernacular language for several centuries. Specialists can create new ones from archaic ones found in either Ancient Egyptian or Coptic ones. The most practical approach is to use loanwords from other languages preferably related family of languages. Coptic and Arabic are actually related as both languages belongs to the Afroasiatic family of languages which has several branches. Arabic belongs to the Semitic branch while Coptic belongs to the Egyptian branch. Loanwords will be predominantly from Egyptian Arabic since it is the language spoken by all Egyptians( Christians and Muslims).

The Coptic alphabet is based on the ancient version of the Greek alphabet, since then the two alphabet have diverged somewhat, for a number of reasons.

Coptic and Greek are the similar languages and similar people.

@@supermavro6072 I attend a Coptic Orthodox Church, and I can say that, other than writing systems, the Coptic language is quite different to Greek, in fact, the Coptic language is just Ancient Egyptian written in a modified Greek alphabet, that's all. As for similarities in cultures, how? I can't see it.

@@nathanjohnwade2289 I sometimes think they are singing in Greek when I hear Coptic hymns. Coptic feels like Greek dialect.

@@supermavro6072 Yes, Greek is sometimes used, which is probably what you are hearing, however, the bulk is in Coptic, which is a form of ancient Egyptian written in a modified ancient Greek alphabet.

He made a mistake on the age of the Coptic text the Greek version was written around the 4th century or just before the Coptic version was dated around the beginning of the first century or late firs century to the beginning of the second it was copied from an even Earlier copy that has been lost to time its older then the new testament I discuss these subjects and I upload ancient scriptures one love and many blessings peace ✌

I have syrian jewish ancestry. There are many explanations. They explained to me that Urim and Thumim were two carnelian stones in the clothes of our high priest. One more lighter and one more darker, they were used for answering questions. The name of God written in ancient letters would glow depending on the answer. You can read the description of the garments of the high priest made by Flavius Josephus, who was a priest in times of the destruction of Jerusalem in 1c.e. But in second temple period, the stones didnt glowed because of the sins of the people.

Sorry about my english

@@M4th3u54ndr4d3 Thanks. What you describe is what one of the videos described as the methodology, though it was also described by another as incorrect. Hence the confusion. Neither of these examples was the kind of video to cite their sources so it'd be nice to hear from ReligionForBreakfast who does.

Neither the coptic nor the arabic people have any correlation to ancient egyptians, sure you both share a little DNA with them but both of you are nowhere close to a pure egyptian. You are more bryzantine then anything else.

The only reason you're "the closest" to ancient egyptians is not by DNA or ancestry but through tradition of paganism.

@@1mmemorial you do realize that the Coptic churches preserving the ancient language are Christian, not pagan?

@@1mmemorial Also, ancestry connection would mean basically nothing after this much time. The Egyptian kingdoms were long enough ago that it's likely everyone on Earth is descended from at least one Pharaoh. Cultural connections are much more significant, and that's what the Coptic Christians are preserving through their language.