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Cormac McCarthy on Arthur Schopenhauer 

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One of Cormac's favorite philosophers was Arthur Schopenhauer. Today I will be breaking down how Cormac integrated Schopenhauer into his work, analyzing what he said about Schopenhauer in his notes, and reading a passage from one of Cormac's friends on his love of Schopenhauer.
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Комментарии : 47   
@baxtermaxtor
@baxtermaxtor 9 месяцев назад
Schopenhauer is a joy to read. “Pleasure is never as pleasant as we expected it to be and pain is always more painful. The pain in the world always outweighs the pleasure. If you don't believe it, compare the respective feelings of two animals, one of which is eating the other.”
@WriteConscious
@WriteConscious 6 месяцев назад
Beautiful quote!
@daniel5730
@daniel5730 8 месяцев назад
13:00 Have to correct you on that. Schopenhauer uses word "will" in unorthodox way. Rather than meaning impulse/desire, it defines somewhat of a metaphysical entity that actually manifests as our desires (change the word "war" in Holden's speech and you will almost have a definition of Schopenhauer's Will). He was heavily inspired be Hinduism and Buddhism, so he sees the Will as something cruel, as it locks us and every sentient being on an endless loop of struggle. Also if you enjoy reading Schopenhauer you should try writings of Thomas Ligotti.
@WriteConscious
@WriteConscious 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for the correction!
@FlavioRicardodaSilva
@FlavioRicardodaSilva 13 дней назад
I may have misunderstood Schopenhauer. And this is just a comment on a detail of what you said. But I wouldn't say that you project your will onto the things you desire, like having many subscribers to the channel and so on. On the contrary, it is your will that directs you towards those desires. The will is never really yours or mine. It is a blind impulse that happens by itself. So your desire for the success of the channel is, in fact, a desire to increase your capacity for survival. It is, ultimately, the same desire that any animal would have to increase its capacity for life. This desire just takes the form appropriate to the current cultural environment, but it is no different in essence. It is life desiring itself in a closed circle where there is no transcendent meaning guiding what you do, it is, again, just life desiring itself at the expence of indiduals or individuality. You are just the finite vehicle of this desire. While, as long as there are living things, the will goes on and on in meaningless blind struggle. The only "meaning" for life is life itself.
@roberthockett270
@roberthockett270 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for this. It might be worth noting that there was a veritable CULT of Schopenhauer in late 19th and early 20th century Vienna, which was of course Wittgenstein's very milieu growing up. All of the best known cultural figures of that time and place seem to have loved Schopenhauer, whose fusion of Kant and ancient Vedic philosophy reached receptive ears during this time of simultaneous (a) burgeoning interest in India and (b) rebellion against Hegel, as nicely captured by the then-popular slogan, 'Back to Kant!'
@shotgunjohnny
@shotgunjohnny 9 месяцев назад
Interesting stuff. Good job and keep at it. Subbed.
@WriteConscious
@WriteConscious 7 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@teatime009
@teatime009 9 месяцев назад
I have a hard time not getting really worked up about this so I;'ll keep it short, but this is one of my favorite topics. As a woman, I just take Schopenhauer as someone pointing out the realties of existence as a human in our bodies, just trying to live on the daily. I ignore his plebian rants about people not like him. When I talk about all this, I very much resemble a person that should have a letter written to me by Schop's mom. lol but thanks for the video.
@dominicsey3032
@dominicsey3032 4 месяца назад
You have the right engagement sis, I appreciate people like you
@Bilboswaggins2077
@Bilboswaggins2077 9 месяцев назад
Two of my favourite people: Schopenhauer and Cormac
@WriteConscious
@WriteConscious 9 месяцев назад
Yes!
@bathcat3759
@bathcat3759 9 месяцев назад
I’m on page 550 of the Story of Philosophy! Top 3 books all time baby I love it!
@WriteConscious
@WriteConscious 9 месяцев назад
Awesome brotha! Thanks for the reinforcement! If you have a bunch of time and like Durant read the Story of Civilization series. It is slightly outdated, but is such a fun read with his style.
@bathcat3759
@bathcat3759 9 месяцев назад
@@WriteConscious already ahead of you! Got my girlfriend grabbing that for me for Christmas lol. Or at least a few volumes. I can tell we would be friends
@WriteConscious
@WriteConscious 6 месяцев назад
of course we would brotha! Hit me up over email sometime!
@bathcat3759
@bathcat3759 6 месяцев назад
@@WriteConscious will def do that my friend
@AJPzaworld
@AJPzaworld 9 месяцев назад
An aspect I will always lament is McCarthy never reading the new Mainländer translation. I’ve always found his philosophy to be a wonderful follower of Schopy’s metaphysics and worldview. Anyway, Schopy is a fantastic character with a philosophy I hold some quibbles with in some regards as with any philosophical framework. His appraisal and use of Goethe’s own ideas certainly gives him some lenience for me, however. Also, I return from a small hiatus!
@timkenner7868
@timkenner7868 9 месяцев назад
Wow perfect timing, I love McCarthy’s writing (he’s second to only Melville for me) and I’ve been thinking about reading Schopenhauer. Then I woke up to this video. 👍🏼 While I take your point about “sleepers”, I’m not convinced they’re the ones in the wrong. I feel like as soon as you try to truly learn and think about the world you start to feel the heavy weight of a world (that doesn’t care or is even aware of you beyond a simple collection of data points) pushing you in it’s arbitrary directions. So I’m not sure we’re really better off, maybe we’re the unhealthy ones with an itch that can’t be scratched… But that’s just me. Love the McCarthy content. Keep it coming. P.s. We’re also overlooking the arbitrary nature of the values we are subscribing to. In calling people “sleepers” we are implying a lower value to the things we associate with “sleeper” and the higher value to the things associated with the non-sleeper. Maybe these things (reading, contemplating etc.) only have value because we, arbitrarily, give them value. But I guess that’s a completely different conversation.
@WriteConscious
@WriteConscious 9 месяцев назад
Sleepers don't polarize in any direction and are unconsciously guided by dominant forces. They're not renouncing life with non-action with their consumerism. They're not participating in changing the world in any direction. They are also because of the general programming of society being net negatives with their thoughts, actions, and energy. I feel the idea of an indifferent world pushing us in arbitrary directions is one of many spiritual gatekeepers that prevent us from achieving True Care. It's important to implode polarities and values because people have used similar messaging as an excuse to dominate (kill, subvert, convert) the "sleepers." However, with a proper axiomatic philosophy embedded with non-violence, the will to spread knowledge, and aspects of self-discipline to avoid pitfalls it is possible to change the world by waking up the masses for the first time. Thanks for the support and deep thoughts! LETS GO!
@theemptyatom
@theemptyatom 3 месяца назад
Love Durant. His Story of Civilization is amazing.
@TheGoodMD
@TheGoodMD 4 месяца назад
17:01 “Some nerd” LMAO
@user-ld1dy3yc8j
@user-ld1dy3yc8j 8 месяцев назад
I’ve read it. Try his Story of Civilisation!
@WriteConscious
@WriteConscious 7 месяцев назад
Love that series also
@easttowest7839
@easttowest7839 9 месяцев назад
Dead & Co. shirt! Woo!
@WriteConscious
@WriteConscious 7 месяцев назад
WE CAN SHARE THE WOMEN WE CAN SHARE THE WINE
@samuelcuellar1766
@samuelcuellar1766 9 месяцев назад
HELL FIRE
@WriteConscious
@WriteConscious 7 месяцев назад
Man is born, lives, dies, builds houses, writes books, not as he wants to, but as it happens. Everything happens. Man does not love, hate, desire-all this happens.
@joshchilders1
@joshchilders1 5 дней назад
The mouth-breathers
@loge10
@loge10 3 месяца назад
Well, since you're not supposed to talk about the Ubermensch, your mentioning it as you did did bring up some unease-based on recent posts I've seen on the development of AI. Some of these posts are talking about eventual integration of AI with humans - which scares the hell out of me and I see is negative. I wonder what Nietzsche would think about such things? Would he considers such an integration as moving towards the Ubermensch? I always saw it as a purely human development - and one wouldn't even need technology, in fact technology would get in the way.
@user-ld1dy3yc8j
@user-ld1dy3yc8j 8 месяцев назад
The road to hell is paved with Utopians!
@WriteConscious
@WriteConscious 7 месяцев назад
lol
@jamescareyyatesIII
@jamescareyyatesIII 9 месяцев назад
A lot of Shops. supposedly profound insights are self-serving. For example, his insight that the most intelligent suffer the most is obviously a direct reference to himself. I see Shop as a proto-INCEL, justifying his personal and egoic misery with lofty and ultimately fantastical formulas. I doubt most people listening are aware of Shops weird idealism. Great show !
@teatime009
@teatime009 9 месяцев назад
it's just an obvious statement that the more you observe, the more bad you observe. The more angles you see, the more you know. Yes, it's "self serving" and a sentiment that so many others have also expressed. It's an obvious pitfall that everyone thinks it applies to them. But so what? Are you looking for a hero, or some ideas? I'm no Schop expert, I have my own angle, but it makes me wonder about animosity toward his work. I know that he did have weird idealism. Some ideas can stand up over time, some have had great challenges set before them so they cancel. But I don't think his "profound insights" are the ones you're holding up here. His profound insights are the ones that hold up when other ideas are put in front of them. His explorations on the will get in to what it feels like to operate a consciousness. This is likely what led him to Upanishads because he felt they touched on the same thing. As far as his incel bits... that's how men are, and were. When they are not it's due to being broken like horses. They feel entitled to women as possessions and don't let it sink in much that even if that were the order of things, the incredible amount of abuse, degradation and dehumanization they bring along with that is not justified with any natural or spiritual law. These man are all around, especially the further back one goes. Excluding sexist men leaves us with no one.
@3cabbyy632
@3cabbyy632 8 месяцев назад
Schopenhauer’s take on women should not b regarded as an outcome of prejudice or him being an incel. For firstly he had several romantic relationships with women when he was young and secondly, for him, woman’s psyche contrasts with his own ascetic ideal because they bring out the affirmation of the will in men. and there is definitely some truth in that.
@TimothyRandall-cu2lh
@TimothyRandall-cu2lh 9 месяцев назад
Not a fan of McCarthy or his writing style. Schopenhauer I like very much.
@Laocoon283
@Laocoon283 9 месяцев назад
I'm bout to read my first McCarthy book. I hear nothing but great things so I would really appreciate hearing someone who disagrees with that to get a more honest view of what I'm in for. What don't you like about him?
@WriteConscious
@WriteConscious 7 месяцев назад
What did you think Laocoon?
@Laocoon283
@Laocoon283 7 месяцев назад
@@WriteConscious Hated the first few chapters but the scene at the end of chapter 3 where the commanches attacked their military unit won me over and I was completely hooked from there on. The description, in specific, of the commanches is what really got my attention. The way he made them sound like some out of time, alien, demon hoard, entity barreling down on this woefully unprepared rag tag group was just awesome lol. Edit: I'm referring to blood meridian ofc
@mahadhassan3212
@mahadhassan3212 9 месяцев назад
damn, I'm not usually first!
@WriteConscious
@WriteConscious 9 месяцев назад
Most people aren't awake right now lol! LETS GO! Got up at 3AM this morning because I couldn't drop wanting to talk about Cormac out of my mind!
@Laocoon283
@Laocoon283 9 месяцев назад
Will Durant is pop history poop
@WriteConscious
@WriteConscious 9 месяцев назад
lol
@jesusgonzalez-acton8045
@jesusgonzalez-acton8045 9 месяцев назад
I agree. But what would a high brow equivalent to his Story of Philosophy be?
@Laocoon283
@Laocoon283 9 месяцев назад
@@jesusgonzalez-acton8045 The actual philosophers writings lol. I personally always prefer going to the source I don't understand the appeal of wanting to rely on someone else telling you what a book said when you can just read the book yourself.
@jesusgonzalez-acton8045
@jesusgonzalez-acton8045 9 месяцев назад
@@Laocoon283 fair. But things like Kojeve’s intro to Hegel have their place, especially when you’re dealing with more esoteric/higher level writings
@Laocoon283
@Laocoon283 9 месяцев назад
@@jesusgonzalez-acton8045 Don't let someone else rob you of figuring out what the book means for yourself. You have your entire life to do so what's the rush?
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