Cornering the market for wheels

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Sabrina Cruz, Melissa Fernandes and Taha Khan from 'Answer in Progress' discuss a question about a wheely good idea.
LATERAL is a weekly podcast about interesting questions and even more interesting answers, hosted by Tom Scott. For business enquiries, contestant appearances or question submissions, visit www.lateralcast.com
GUESTS:
Sabrina Cruz: ‪@answerinprogress‬, / nerdyandquirky
Melissa Fernandes: ‪@answerinprogress‬, / mehlizfern
Taha Khan: ‪@answerinprogress‬, / khanstopme
HOST: Tom Scott.
QUESTION PRODUCER: David Bodycombe.
RECORDED AT: The Podcast Studios, Dublin.
EDITED BY: Julie Hassett.
GRAPHICS: Chris Hanel at Support Class. Assistant: Dillon Pentz.
MUSIC: Karl-Ola Kjellholm ('Private Detective'/'Agrumes', courtesy of epidemicsound.com).
FORMAT: Pad 26 Limited/Labyrinth Games Ltd.
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: David Bodycombe and Tom Scott.
© Pad 26 Limited (www.pad26.com) / Labyrinth Games Ltd. 2024.

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@wiseSYW Месяц назад

the captions use tyres for the british speakers and tires for americans. now that's dedication

@SenshiSunPower Месяц назад

Technically, they're Canadian. We use the American spelling of tire, but most of the time we use British spelling.

@ptrknvk Месяц назад

Canadians are Americans. It's still North America.

@Vykk_Draygo Месяц назад

@@ptrknvk Canadians are from the continent of North America, but they are Canadians, not Americans.

@punkdigerati Месяц назад

They use Caption+ by JS*, for all of Tom Scott's channels, they always do a great job, worth the money I'm sure

@gljames24 Месяц назад

@@Vykk_Draygo We should've probably went with Yanks instead of Americans, but even I don't like Yank that much because it feels very east coast.

@va1korion Месяц назад

I absolutely love how Tom made the connection with gaming instantly but it took them 8 more minutes to stumble into the answer from the opposite direction.

@Darkkrebs Месяц назад

5:49 6:25 There’s something about watching Tom actually fire back when young people clown about his age that is immensely satisfying for some reason. 😆

@JimFaindel Месяц назад

I just love how this crew of centenials drive Tom absolutely wild by merely existing in his general social proximity.

@Soul-Burn Месяц назад

While they are all RU-vidrs, it's obvious clear none of them are streamers. I was screaming at the screen from the moment the word "DXRacer" showed up.

@AmadanMath Месяц назад

Or have ever watched any streamers :D

@EdwardMillen Месяц назад

Yeah, my very first thought was "Isn't that the company that makes ?" And I don't even watch streamers, or have one of those things myself. I've just somehow seen them in random clips I guess. So very surprised none of them recognised the name lol

@davidshi451 Месяц назад

8:55 "Oh, g'n'augh!" -Tom Scott

@joao.mambelli Месяц назад

damn, why didn't we get this one on our subscription feed? the view count is really bad

@korg47237 Месяц назад

I thought it was just me that missed it but you're totally right. 650 views as I watch this compared to the 20-30k average on all the others. Very strange since it shows as uploaded 2 days ago but suddenly appeared?

@trixter21992251 Месяц назад

may have been unlisted until now

@TheGreatSteve Месяц назад

The viewers are being spared.

@lateralcast Месяц назад

No conspiracy. The wrong episode got released, so it was unlisted until today. -- David (producer)

@ilyaholt8607 Месяц назад

Goddammit, Dave!

@Elated_Llama Месяц назад

for anyone who regularly opens up appliances, the answer is very simple: wheels. Cogwheels, bearings, nuts on bolts, pulleys... and there are anywhere from dozens to hundreds of them in every appliance and gadget. I suppose it is a matter of what you would consider a wheel, and what you would consider a window. Is a nut on a bolt a wheel in your wheel definition of choice? Is an openable window a door? But if we are counting "wheel like mechanical parts" as wheels, there is no contest, definitely wheels, no matter how far you stretch the definition of doors.

@vilnaszekje Месяц назад

Transistors exist so doors

@anarchodin Месяц назад

At that point you're not talking about wheels, you're talking about circles.

@BlendyStick Месяц назад

@@anarchodin What is a wheel but a circle that goes wheeeeeee?

@Gakulon Месяц назад

@@vilnaszekjeYeah, I feel like if we're considering nuts on bolts to be wheels, then switches have to become doors.

@vilnaszekje Месяц назад

@@Gakulon transitor is switch/gate combo and gate with a movable barrier is a door.

@TimoFuchs Месяц назад

Can we just all agree that while there are many fantastic guests at Lateral, Sabrina, Melissa and Taha can't be beat. Sooo much fun to watch, such great chemistry, the bickering about age difference, everything. I love this combo so much.

@nisc2001 Месяц назад

i think it's due to the three of them being friends and working on their own channel together. So their internal chemistry is already there. in comparison to some other groupings where the people may be meeting for the first time on the podcast.

@curtismurphy6206 Месяц назад

Tom immediately going to steering wheel over anything else is wild to me

@Atlessa 26 дней назад

I mean... the show is called "lateral" not "linear".

@nikilaj Месяц назад

god i LOVE the banter between tom and answer in progress soooo much

@robburgess4556 Месяц назад

I'm screaming "gaming chairs!" at my computer.

@elliottmcollins Месяц назад

There are also more wheels just on chairs than there are doors in my house.

@pincushionllama Месяц назад

@@elliottmcollins I have doors with wheels (backporch glass doors have wheels below on the track)

@leohambly Месяц назад

i heard dx racer and i remembered how much i dont like them😭

@trying_my_bestest Месяц назад

Drawers have wheels too etc

@GoErikTheRed Месяц назад

Watching Tom approach the doors vs wheels debate as car wheels vs house doors was adorable. Makes me want to just sit there and every 3 seconds say another thing he hadn’t thought of. Car doors. Bicycles. Skateboards. Hot Wheels and other toys (if the doors don’t open they don’t count). Hinged lids, like for a basket. Sliding lids, like for the freezers at convenience stores. Does that mean that all drawers are doors? What about ball bearings? I saw a debate online that was down to certain cellular functions and whether those could count as doors or wheels

@myladycasagrande863 Месяц назад

I wouldn't count drawers or lids as doors, but there are cupboard doors and various appliances with doors (oven, microwave, dryer, etc). If we're counting wheels on toy cars, then we also have to count doors on/in dollhouses... Thanks for sending me down a mental rabbit hole

@Gakulon Месяц назад

As another commenter pointed out, if you consider a switch to be a door then I'm pretty damn certain we manufacture more transistors than wheels. At that point you need to start looking at the physical world itself to classify things as wheel, door, or neither.

@antispeedrun Месяц назад

Sabrina Cruz, businessperson extraordinaire 😂

@adamengelhart5159 Месяц назад

I think she fired off business plans for like three or four of the questions in this episode. While they were all hilarious, they'd also all end up being speedruns to the bankruptcy courts.

@IFGchannel931 Месяц назад

I'm watching this episode while I sit on the answer

@cyberfutur5000 Месяц назад

That question was delightfully deceptive!

@burdizdawurd1516Official Месяц назад

That question was elegantly written! It's a true lateral thinking question: (spoilers) The automotive industry component was seats, the wheels component was office chair casters. In terms of brand recognition to product association, I heard "DX Racer" and thought, "That's a gaming chair." If you don't know that brand, then doors vs wheels is the right argument to consider to think about what types of wheels there are. I'm surprised the crew didn't start listing more types of doors and wheels in a household - they would have nailed the question sooner!

@shaunhouse8469 Месяц назад

Tom is quite well known as a traveller, has he no wheeled luggage?

@myladycasagrande863 Месяц назад

He also doesn't remember that bicycles have wheels, despite having learned to ride one relatively recently.

@goatsfordays2451 Месяц назад

Like, 'Whoever wrote that question, I hate you' has to be a badge of honor lol.

@nathanroberts3638 Месяц назад

I immediately recognized the brand name as selling gamer chairs, and yet somehow spent the entire video stuck on "they made the first computer steering wheel".

@Oxirador Месяц назад

That was one of the most magnificent endings in the series. :D Good job to the person who submitted this question and to Melissa for having played it perfectly.

@aloysiuskurnia7643 Месяц назад

This episode is wild lol, lots of tangents, ontology and pedantry, and Tom's beef with Sabrina certainly made this episode very delightful

@korg47237 Месяц назад

Gamers immediately got this as soon as they heard DXRacer. I could have sworn they were the face of ***spoiler below*** .... .... "Gamer" chairs.

@Quazlyy Месяц назад

I really like the chemistry between the four!

@leumas75 Месяц назад

7:07 - Tom needed to remember the famous line in “Shawshank Redemption” when Brooks Hatlen (the old guy from the library) who called them ‘giggly-hula-gals.”

@elliottmcollins Месяц назад

Cars come out close to a wash on wheels & doors and trucks, bikes, motorcycles, skateboards, rollerblades, etc put wheels way ahead. Then drawers, rolly carts, suitcases, and rolling chairs ensure the average middle-class house and office building also has more wheels than doors. I counted at least 80 wheels just in my house. It's not even close.

@MyRegardsToTheDodo Месяц назад

Cars don't even come close to a wash when you consider all the wheels in the engine and the clutch. Plus, my car is a two-door convertible coupe.

@TophTheMelonLord Месяц назад

Okay but cabinets have doors. And of course so do refrigerators, ovens, etc. You've probably got 20+ doors in your kitchen. The battery compartment of electronics is often referred to as having a "door". Wheels definitely still come out ahead _globally_, but the count in your house is closer than you think.

@stumcconnel Месяц назад

Re: wheels vs. doors, what's classed as a wheel? Is a bearing a wheel? Then every electrical device with a fan in it contains a wheel and a vehicle suddenly has a lot more wheels, as does almost any piece of machinery. Factories would have loads of wheels. Airports too, with all the conveyor rollers everywhere. Drawer runners? That adds a whole lot more wheels to every household.

@mittfh Месяц назад

Add cogwheels and the count increases by an order of magnitude or two - technically, a cog is one of the teeth on the wheel, and a cogwheel a wheel with cogs on its rim.

@fumthings Месяц назад

a wheel is classed as a simple machine, consisting of a circular thing which can turn on an axel. anything that fits this is a wheel.

@ripopol Месяц назад

I think the answer should be very simple. In that the answer is: The Wheel and Axle is one of the seven simple machines. One in seven THINGS is a wheel. Meanwhile doors are very specific in their purpose ("construction that serves interchangeably as a seal or an entrance") Like its not even a good question when you think about it definitionally

@Gakulon Месяц назад

We also need to consider what a door is, because if we consider a door to be "something you close to stop things going through and open to allow things going through" then basically every single switch becomes a door, and trust me when I say there are a LOT of switches.

@WarmongerGandhi Месяц назад

@@fumthings By that definition, door hinges are wheels, so every door has more wheels than doors.

@Vykk_Draygo Месяц назад

The wheel is the solid bit that the tire is put on. Tires increase traction over just using wheels, and also prevent wear and damage to the wheels. They also serve to improve comfort by damping impacts (to a less extent than suspension would, but still noticeable on both cars and bicycles). As well, a "rim" is a just a colloquial word for wheel.

@MyRegardsToTheDodo Месяц назад

No, sorry. The rim is the metal part, it consists of a center disk, spokes, a barrel and the rim flange (and multiple holes for lugnuts and so on and an air valve). The tire is the rubber part. The wheel is both combined.

@Sam-lr9oi Месяц назад

@@MyRegardsToTheDodo nope

@MyRegardsToTheDodo Месяц назад

@@Sam-lr9oi Yes.

@countertony Месяц назад

I've not become too old, have I? The wheel is the metal bit, the tyre/tire is the rubber bit (likely with an inner tube inside), and the rim is the outer edge of the wheel, on which the tyre sits, held in place by friction and air pressure. That's right, isn't it?

@elliottmcollins Месяц назад

It is indeed and it definitely was hard to watch that go unsaid.

@jamesaditya5254 Месяц назад

Yeah, that bit was like questioning which is the foot, the toes, and the sock

@Artaxo Месяц назад

Everything is a wheel if you try hard enough

@Vykk_Draygo Месяц назад

Car tires generally don't have inner tubes. At least not here in the States. Only place you'll regularly see inner tubes is on bicycles (and other such small tires).

@punkdigerati Месяц назад

In an automotive context, yes, but there are also solid wheels directly attached to an axle such as on casters or in many toys.

@Balsiefen 28 дней назад

These are the most intelligent people I've ever seen who can't agree on what a wheel is.

@glossaria2 Месяц назад

The measurement of how amusing Tom is in the episode is how many times Sabrina falls out of screen

@lunalovegood2093 Месяц назад

THIS IS MY FAVE EPISODE EVER

@jaredeiesland Месяц назад

This episode when off the tracks and I loved it so much

@lawnjart16 Месяц назад

About the only time I knew the question right off the bat, because man, I hate those chairs

@questioner1596 Месяц назад

There are so many doors in every kitchen and bathroom! Even a car interior has mini doors everywhere, like the glove box, the jack and tire iron compartments, the cupholders, and various other cubbies

@kylben Месяц назад

I counted 58 wheels in my household, and I'm sure I've missed some. Two cars with 5 wheels each (spare tires), 3 office chairs (my wife and I both work from home) with five wheels each (casters count as wheels), two garden carts with four wheels each, a wheelbarrow, three utility carts with four wheels each, a movable kitchen countertop thing with 4 wheels, a small kitchen appliance stand with 4 wheels. And two wheels built into the bottom of the sliding patio door. I won't even count things like a few model cars and internal parts of things, just load=bearing wheels. And I have a very average house. 1600sf on a quarter acre plus a 200sf utility/storage shed and no garage. It has a total of 8 doors.

@RFC3514 Месяц назад

2:47 - A typical office chair has 10 wheels (5 "feet", 2 wheels each). Every toy car has 4 wheels (and many don't have doors). Bikes have 2 (sometimes 4) wheels and no doors. Skateboards, rollerskates, electric scooters, etc.. Nearly every mechanical device has at least a couple of wheels inside it. I doubt it's even remotely close.

@jayayeonetoo3335 Месяц назад

When I saw the first clip from this episode, I was also expecting to see the question on the barcodes and the Go board, but these work too (at least the comments actually got a hold of Tom's thoughts on the wheels/doors debate).

@Poyntlesss Месяц назад

At the reading of this question, entirely unrelated pieces of information got linked in my mind and I knew the answer, because it was the solution to a question I had long ago asked but never bothered to investigate assuming that the name was just a name. The satisfaction of having a question pondered but unanswered for over a decade getting a resolution is such a rush.

@George_vv Месяц назад

My take on the wheels vs doors debate: There are thousands times more replacement wheels in the world of all different types than there are replacement doors. That should make up the difference between in-use wheels and doors. (I'm also only counting the door itself not the doorway and I'm not counting gears in the wheel count but I am counting skate wheel conveyors.) Also Tom didn't take into account that every drawer in a house usually uses at least two wheels, garage doors have several, sliding doors use more than one wheel and of course rolling chairs have several as well.

@Box0898 Месяц назад

Finally a Lateral question I knew the answer to immediately 😅

@Phelnoth Месяц назад

A tire without a wheel is just a tire, a wheel without a tire is still a wheel. The presence of a wheel is implied when calling both parts together a tire. A spare tire better have a wheel, but someone's winter tires in the shed probably don't.

@greensteve9307 Месяц назад

That was a good one!

@robertjarman3703 Месяц назад

When they started to get in a tussle about Sabrina's age, I looked up her article on Wikipedia and she's only two years older than me oddly enough, and also Canadian. Yeah, she would not be reading the news in 2003 most likely. She also apparently hosted Crash Course Kids which I feel stupid for because years ago I was trying to find some science resources for a cousin I know on that channel and I never made the connection since.

@ecchikitty1395 Месяц назад

I knew I'd heard of DXRacer, but did not make the connection. I was thinking decorative wall mounted steering wheels.

@sophiamarchildon3998 Месяц назад

Initial thoughts: they are replacement parts for the vehicles already in use that would have to stay in use for longer as less new one are bought.

@cghensi Месяц назад

Adding spaces for spoilers It's funny how long it took them to get that when the gaming chairs is literally all I know DXRacer for.

@gallicrexcinerea 26 дней назад

As someone who the brand DXRacer's products cater to, I knew the answer from the very beginning.

@Sentinel851 Месяц назад

I got to do the thing for this one. I knew DXracer for this product primarily (I in fact was gifted one for my 18th birthday), so to me, it was a slam dunk on the answer. as to the wheels vs doors debate, it depends on how loose/strict the definition of each is. if "wheel" includes things like the internal parts of a bearing, or lego/toy wheels, that's a stupid high number of wheels in the world. on the other hand, if it includes anything that's a hinged panel of some type, then we include cupboard doors, fridge doors, oven doors, microwave doors, but we also have a solid starting point with nearly every building out door-ing wheels via internal doors, shopping centre doors, office doors, automatic doors (which might count as two, for left and right) etc. if we're including toy wheels, I think it'd be wheels, just because I think lego do it on a scale that dwarfs the difference between the two.

@SirFridge Месяц назад

Hey the original DXRacer chairs are actually quite comfortable. After their succes a lot of companies made cheaper versions that were much worse.

@bethhumphreys110 Месяц назад

"What is a wheel?" Welcome to the philosophy portion of the show.

@montlejohnbojangles8937 Месяц назад

Hate to say it but I had this one in the first thirty seconds. To be clear, this is an indictment of myself.

@SadGreenBish Месяц назад

As someone who owns a racing chair, this was painful

@anarchodin Месяц назад

From what I've heard about these chairs, that seems appropriate.

@nisc2001 Месяц назад

i recognized the brand name DX Racer from the beginning xD i was just waiting for them to get to gaming chairs and then they kept not getting there.

@SmallBlogV8 Месяц назад

Tyre and wheel are *NOT* interchangeable terms. The tyre is the rubber loop on the outside. The wheel is the metal bit that wears the tyre.

@Mindinvasion Месяц назад

If you count logic gates in i think the question is clear

@edgibbs2794 Месяц назад

if you can count a logic gate as a door, I'm pretty sure you could also make a case for loops being counted as wheels

@johngamble5270 Месяц назад

We are *not* counting logic gates. However... are lids doors? If I lift open a lid to toss something into a trash can, am I using a door?

@SonicRooncoPrime 25 дней назад

I feel so bad for Tom at the end there XD

@mrjohndangerpowers Месяц назад

Its wild how they all had no clear idea what a wheel is.

@ninjasuperman9538 29 дней назад

I remember the days of RU-vid when you knew someone made it after they got their DxRacer in branded colors

@lizdee3243 21 день назад

Tom finally firing back at Sabrina for the age jokes

@hannahk1306 Месяц назад

My first thought was that it was something to do with spare parts and the second hand car market. So if people were buying fewer new cars, then logically they might be trying to make existing cars last longer (and therefore need more parts, over whole vehicles).

@PianoKwanMan Месяц назад

It took me a long time to realise they are talking about the buying of caster wheels? I had it that they had 'cornered the market' ie buying the world's stock of caster wheels

@NamelessMoreOne Месяц назад

DXRacer is extremely popular for gaming chairs in Brazil. Apparently, judging by the comments, it's not as omnipresent elsewhere.

@Sortaray Месяц назад

at the end, it all make sense :D

@erictaylor5462 Месяц назад

When a video game character is born they are a new Tron. Once they get a job they become a pro Tron. And if they run for and get into public office they become an elect Tron.

@wscottcrawford Месяц назад

In the doors/wheels argument - what about bicycles and motorbikes? Standard will have two wheels each but no doors and many families will have multiple bikes - one for each member of the household....

@Slikx666 Месяц назад

9 doors in the house, 1 in the garage, and say 40 lego doors. The car has at least 6 wheels, 2 bikes have 4 wheels, and I've got hundreds of Lego wheels. I'm thinking there's more wheels. 😀

@route2070 Месяц назад

Dang i started to think there was something involving the Fast and the Furious franchise. 2003 is probably somewhere around the 2nd movie.

@maxpayne2574 Месяц назад

Rim is the metal part, rubber Tire goes on the Rim, Wheel is 2 together. Long time mechanic here. The wheels didn't come from cars the seats came from cars makes question very deceptive.

@ElNeroDiablo Месяц назад

DXRacer... Gaming *Chairs* with the 5-point 'star' base with 5 pairs of wheels and a seat akin to those in racing and rally cars... Before I finish the video (5:45 mark); The company pivoted from car parts/accessories to making gaming chairs with spare seats that would have otherwise shelf-warmed in auto stores; is my guess seeing as I'm sitting in one of their gaming chairs. Edit: I was right! XD

@YalelingOz Месяц назад

I had my ah-ha moment right after the 7 minute mark. But instantly felt two things that feel contradictory: I felt dense for not figuring it out earlier, but also that if I was on the panel it would have taken me far longer.

@abigailcooling6604 Месяц назад

For a large part of this I thought that DXRacer were buying F1/racing car wheels and turning them into stuff to be sold to fans... I was so wrong.

@spidermanmyers Месяц назад

I am an English Major and still can't keep adverbs and adjectives straight.

@GospelOfIHM Месяц назад

every gamer screaming as they heard the question. i didn't even realize DXRacer made chairs for cars first before inflicting bucket seats on gamer nerds

@badenmelhuish3215 Месяц назад

Hi Tom, more doors than wheels. My house has more than 60 doors and only about 25 wheels. how about a cruse ship? lots and lots of doors but not many wheels. Cheers.

@Maj9183 Месяц назад

Think about all the wheels on every office chair all over the world

@bobtheskutterbot Месяц назад

I'm still confused. How is a car wheel the same as a chair? And how are gamer chairs a new market? What did people do before 2003- squat?

@thedoginthewok Месяц назад

I've had a dxracer chair and it fell apart after two years.

@IceMetalPunk Месяц назад

I'm not much of a gamer, nor do I have a gaming chair... but I watch a lot of Minecraft and Mario RU-vidrs, so I knew the company name immediately and had the answer 😅

@Zombie-lx3sh Месяц назад

How can Brits not know the difference between a wheel and a tire (the black rubber bit on top of the wheel)?

@geoffroi-le-Hook Месяц назад

When you said they created a new market for wheels my mind went to ... mouse wheels (actually mouse balls then mouse wheels)

@TophTheMelonLord Месяц назад

Obviously an answer on this show needs to be weirder that this, but... A slowdown in new car sales means that more old cars are still being driven, which means they need replacement parts such as wheels. Anyone who sells car parts to garages rather than manufacturers should expect increased sales.

@ToyotaCharlie Месяц назад

i was genuinely surprised that none of the youtubers knew the brand dxracer 🤷

@Kurtea00 Месяц назад

Why are lateral episodes so short?

@Jackster8484 Месяц назад

there highlights of full length podcasts.

@RoundHouseDictator Месяц назад

There are more wheels than doors because wheel is more abstract than doors. Every ceiling fan has a wheel at its core. Door is more concrete as a panel cover without hinges is not a door

@sortius_ Месяц назад

"Stupid gamer chairs" *looks at bright pink Razer gaming chair* *cries a little*

@erictaylor5462 Месяц назад

What about steering wheels

@jjs9390 9 дней назад

Wait. I know about boot and bonnet, but do you not call them wheels in England⁉

@nariu7times328 Месяц назад

Dear Scott - I was HAVING children in 2003, don't worry, I am way older than you and feel you.

@erictaylor5462 Месяц назад

A tire is mounted on a wheel.

@EscurKo Месяц назад

But aren't furniture wheels called rollers or casters ?

@BleuSquid Месяц назад

DXRacer used to be an auto parts company?!

@FrostyButter Месяц назад

Melissa: What's in a sports car? Me: A very insecure man?

@sandwich2473 Месяц назад

What if they just wanted to have a wheely good time?

@sandwich2473 Месяц назад

My actual answer was more along the lines of they were buying up the market to drive demand, but then it went to kit cars

@romainsavioz5466 Месяц назад

8 wheel mustang

@BlendyStick Месяц назад

I'm kinda disappointed that Sabrina doesn't respect the majesty of automotive engineering.

@TrabberShir Месяц назад

Hearing four people that don't know the difference between a tire and the wheel it goes on ramble about the confusion makes me feel old for some reason. It makes no sense, wheeled vehicles have not become less common and I think Tom is actually older than me. I just don't understand how that confusion exists.