Sources: Australia closes borders: www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/mar/26/long-delays-as-queensland-nsw-border-closed-for-first-time-since-spanish-flu-in-1919 Hildebrand article: www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/joe-hildebrand-the-real-cost-of-the-coronavirus/news-story/592b8addc810d561cbce37273c262aa6 Centrelink website crashes: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8144893/Centrelink-boss-admits-MyGov-website-handle-extra-demand-created-coronavirus.html Johns Hopkins Flattening the curve: www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-social-distancing-and-self-quarantine Govt slammed over slow response to COVID-19: www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-morrison-government-slammed-over-slow-response-to-covid19-on-abcs-qa/news-story/fe6b09f0f17b6536b33c3e779c691eac Chinese welded into apartments: www.thesun.co.uk/news/10925668/coronavirus-patients-welded-homes-china/ South Korea Data: www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/opinion/coronavirus-pandemic-social-distancing.html Johns Hopkins Data: gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 Source Data: ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-source-data Simulation: corona.katapult-magazin.de/ Noosa Restaurant story: www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/coronavirus-24-people-catch-virus-after-50th-birthday-party-at-noosa-restaurant/news-story/b86d8ca39f9c8e93a144789f32c84ee9 Time for exit strategies: www.eurotopics.net/en/237848/the-world-in-lockdown-time-for-exit-strategies Imperial College paper: www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf US airline spent 96% of free cash flow on buybacks: www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-16/u-s-airlines-spent-96-of-free-cash-flow-on-buybacks-chart Imperial College scientist revises forecast: www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/imperial-college-scientist-who-predicted-500k-coronavirus-deaths-in-uk-revises-to-20k-or-less US flu Season 2017-18: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017%E2%80%932018_United_States_flu_season Swine Flu article: www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/jul/16/swine-flu-cases-rise-britain UK Swine Flu Stats: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_Kingdom US Initial Unemployment claims: www.dol.gov/ui/data.pdf NNT tweet: twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1242235586578190338?s=20 Efficacy of Masks: twitter.com/CMichaelGibson/status/1239718351573843973?s=20
We won't get this under control, in a few months people will end up rioting at least serious crimes, They already said it will take two years to get rid of it if lucky and that it seems that you can actually get sick again from the virus. Most humans can recover from the virus and most of us won't die but if the economy crashed for months we would be fixing it for generations to come. That includes suicide and crime.
@@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513 No one knows for sure. The 21 million mobile phone accounts that have been deactivated is not reassuring, but not conclusive ether.
I have a similar feeling. This said the mortality rates are ALL necessarily big overstatements and the elephant in the room is that the vast majority of those dying are old and/or chronically sick.
2 and a half months ago, I sounded like an alarmist. Now, I get to watch everyone rushing to stores and hawking their goods for extra cash, while I smirk at them.
Symptoms of the onset of Corona virus: Dry cough Fever Difficulty breathing A sudden urge to travel A need to socialize for no apparent or required reason.
@@NerdlySquared lol...yup. The first person who told me to avoid Eastwood in NSW, which has a high Chinese population, was the Chinese owner of my local cafe lol.
@@NerdlySquared SJW related issues are usually the epitome of first world problems. When a real crisis appears people actually stop listening to the crybabies because there are actually lives at stake, as opposed to whether a tv show is sexist, or how there aren't enough x people in y profession.
What is this crap analysis!? Far too full of nuance, context, counter-points, data, and inherent human fallibility for my liking. Almost like you're considering all the evidence and data or some crap like that. ;-)
For years I’ve been sliding to the right as I am disgusted with the identity politics and hypocritical and politically opportunistic anti white racism that pumps like a firehouse from every corner where the left holds sway, but the way the right has behaved has truly disgusted me. Downplaying the severity of the pandemic, peddling false science and doing damag control for trumps election chances as he embarrasses himself like never before is an unforgivable act of partisan ship. Keep an eye out for the tribalists exploiting this for their own gang and further dividing us.
Hey man, really missed your videos, there's something about hearing another Aussie's point of view that helps see through the deluge of in information we get from US and Uk RU-vidrs. Glad to see you still posting new videos.
I think the answer depends on the time length. A global economic collapse would almost certainly do more harm than the virus. We can't just take the quantity of life lost into consideration, we must also consider the quality of life for those who remain. It's the sort of utilitarian calculation that no one wants to consider but that governments (whose decisions affect millions of lives) can't responsibly avoid. And for all Trump has been slammed for his initial response (and rightly so to some extent), Bill Deblasio was still fretting over racism and recommending that New Yorkers frequent theaters and restaurants up until two weeks ago (when there were already over two thousand confirmed cases in the state). Yet, the media is giving him a pass. The US media has proven incapable of separating the pandemic from politics. They see this as a way to beat Trump in November and it's destroyed what little credibility they had left.
@Nathan Anderson I did the math. A $2T bailout means $20M spent per life, assuming 100k people would be saved only if this amount was spent. This doesn't include several more trillion in economic damages from shutdowns.
>>We can't just take the quantity of life lost into consideration, we must also consider the quality of life for those who remain. It's the sort of utilitarian calculation that no one wants to consider but that governments (whose decisions affect millions of lives) can't responsibly avoid.
@@Flyingdutchy33 well, if you seen it in an episode of South park. I'm convinced... A virus with an exponential growth of >1.2 and a hospitalization rate of 10-20% (a death rate of around 16% when hospitals surpass capacity) Oh yea. I can s why you weren't concerned. Because you have no fking idea what you're talking about.
@@Flyingdutchy33 my numbers are backed up by major health organizations, they are many of the same number Thomas pueyo used in his models. But let me guess, you don't know who that is, you haven't looked at the data, and you think just using the words that destroyed your statement work both ways. It doesn't work like that. Just because you're full of shit doesn't mean everyone else is.
Yup. And from what I understand all elderly (not that that means their deaths aren't tragic, but let's be honest, you've lived a long life already). I totally understand the idea of flattening the curve, and that if our hospitals are overloaded because we don't, that death figure will skyrocket. But the consequences of what we're doing economically haven't been properly thought through from what I can tell. And the health impacts from that alone, I imagine, will be far more than the virus could've done if we'd been a little less extreme in our response. Let alone the social and financial impacts. The bottom line is we need to know the endgame for these measures, and we need an intelligent solution so that people can keep living. I'm as anti socialism as they come, but we may actually need a social wage for however many weeks/months. Capitalism only works if there's a market. And the government has shut that market down (albeit, yes, in the face of a potential health crisis)
@@milsteadonmovies "Provided we keep on the same disease trajectory seen in China, statisticians at Imperial College London estimated that the toll from the virus will be less than the annual UK deaths from seasonal influenza."-The Sunday Times. March 27
Milstead on Movies agreed. Like ww2 if you only took into account the phony war at the beginning, I’d have no idea where it would lead to. They are missing the point
I was just discharged today from Wellington Public hospital (Wellington City, New Zealand) due to a grapefruit sized air bubble in my chest cavity, wards are pretty much empty, the emergency room that I passed through was pretty empty, nurses told me that the cases that they've seen haven't been very serious, only one woman was admitted but was then released three days later due to her symptoms keeping steady since she arrived.. there wasn't a huge panic, there weren't any filled wards over flowing with deathly ill people, sure there are only around 400 cases in New Zealand but from nurses and doctors I talked with whilst there almost all are mild cases that require no intervention from health organizations, just to keep hydrated, take your vitamins and rest up!
@@r.s.4174 Are you a health practitioner? What journal articles have you utilised to come to the conclusion that "sweating out" a fever is in anyway a good decision? If the answer to these question in no and none then I would seriously advise you to shut up. Sweating out a fever by going into saunas and hot baths can be dangerous particularly if you are having a significant fever.
Just out of curiosity, what about Pres. Trump's response to this situation do you feel was particularly lethargic? While there is little argument that various U.S. agencies should have been better prepared for such an event, nearly all of the initial information received regarding the effects of this outbreak was issued by the WHO, such as its overall severity, mode(s) of transmission, rate of contraction and morbidity. The Director-General initially assured the world this microorganism could not be spread person-to-person, its morbidity rate was far less than other strains of Coronavirus, and there was minimal chance it would travel much further than the Asian continent, all of which we now realize were blatant fabrications designed to placate and bolster their CCP benefactors. It was not until March 11, 2020 that the organization finally declared Covid-19 a pandemic, some 40 days after the U.S. issued its own public health emergency and placed this country on full alert. For his part in this drama, the President was roundly denounced as "racist" when he proactively blocked travel from China on Jan 31, labeled a "xenophobe" when he rightly described the disease as the "Chinese flu", and is hounded relentlessly by his detractors for alleged supply "shortages" that have yet to materialize. While no sane individual can proclaim the process thus far has been executed without flaws, it cannot be stated in good conscience the fault lies solely on the shoulders of our Commander-in-Chief. Edit: Formatting, spelling
Immediately after he says that, he talks about the media misrepresenting what was going on. I find that a bit ironic. After the CDC capitulated doing the testing, the private sector stepped in to cut the testing time in 1/2 and then yesterday an American company announced a portable test device that would do it under 15 minutes. 24 hour lab turn around to 15 minutes at site. Trump pushed the malaria / Z-pac treatment. The media and everyone is lambasting him for it and trying to blame some moron's death on it. I will wait for the response as well.
This is a direct quote from WHO: "The speed of transmission is an important point of difference between the two viruses. Influenza has a shorter median incubation period (the time from infection to appearance of symptoms) and a shorter serial interval (the time between successive cases) than COVID-19 virus. The serial interval for COVID-19 virus is estimated to be 5-6 days, while for influenza virus, the serial interval is 3 days. This means that influenza can spread faster than COVID-19. Further, transmission in the first 3-5 days of illness, or potentially pre-symptomatic transmission -transmission of the virus before the appearance of symptoms - is a major driver of transmission for influenza. In contrast, while we are learning that there are people who can shed COVID-19 virus 24-48 hours prior to symptom onset, at present, this does not appear to be a major driver of transmission." SOURCE: www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-similarities-and-differences-covid-19-and-influenza
You should check out what the government of Bulgaria did. We had our first confirmed case on March 8th. All major events for the following week were cancelled. On Friday the 13th a State of emergency was declared and mandatory lockdown of all non essential businesses, which were closed down. The people were advised to stay home and practice social distancing, which we, in most cases, did. Large gatherings of people were forbidden, parks were closed, non essential travel within the country was forbidden, cities lockdown with checkpoints that requesting documents for the porpoise of your travel signed by your employer. The results - as of today - about 320 cases with 7 confirmed dead, all of which had a lot of pre existing conditions, and actually dying from heart attacks, strokes etc.
Voluntary social distancing in the era of narcissism and degeneracy? It's been amazing to watch people that first called everyone trying to take any measure a "racist" now complaining that not enough measures are being taken, or the people that want to take away gun rights complaining about their freedom to party when they're told to keep social distancing to avoid contagion.
For those who have access to Quadrant Online, Geoffrey Luck's recent article is worth reading regarding the Italian situation. Geoffrey lived there for 10 years and shows why the virus took off in Lombardy and why therefor it is irrelevant to Australia.
That's brilliant until reading that article I had no idea that there were so many migrant workers from China working in Italy, would like to know what the situation in Spain is? Does anyone know if there is a high Chinese migrant labour force living there.
@@acmelbourne Sorry, ADC, I have no knowledge about Spain. However, a very informative recent article about Italy is ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0rInTBhGq10.html
This was excellent. Thank you for the well-reasoned viewpoint and well-researched data.. I'm sharing with my troops. We're members of the NY National guard,at the epicenter of the US outbreak. Many are already called up with many more to come.
Roland Strauss not since communist times have I heard of rules against assembling in groups. Heck in Paris it is papieren bitte all over again. You can’t walk the streets without papers. Bit like the occupation.
Very solid and sensible presentation. Your passing reference to South Korea was interesting when you stated "We don't have the social cohesion of S. Korea". I suggest that if it weren't for such high levels of immigration we too would have social cohesion, but "Diversity" divides us, while unity would be a strength if we hadn't lost it.
TropicalCoder Exactly. The countries hit hardest with persistence have the highest levels of diversity. Just look at the infection rates comparing Western and Eastern Europe. Mainstream media won’t touch this story though.
I am more on the Alex Jones side on that.. It’s definitely a controlled pandemic, all the quarantine, lockdown and social distancing will not help as it is intentionally spread. I am worried sick about my elderly loved ones and I have no doubts that was a good political game for many. After that mandating things like excessive vaccination, removal of medical and personal freedom will be a piece of cake. Also why is Australia unethically withholding the only treatment that works - Chloroqine + Azithromicin + plus all the Vit C, D, A, zinc, nac, glutathione, melatonin...?
Independent Man, that was pretty shallow of you to not even consider the possibilities. I remembered you a bit more objective than that but good luck to you too, make sure your high horse doesn’t kick you off.
@@blueblossomblues Alex Jones and objectivity are words that don't belong in the same sense. If you think Alex Jones is a credible source of information then you are exactly the type of low IQ moron that he appeals to.
"There were around 50,100 excess winter deaths in England and Wales in 2017-18 - the highest since the winter of 1975-76, figures from the Office for National Statistics show.
These various predictions don’t appear to be taking weather into account. Over 98% of cases globally have occurred above Latitude 30N...this is almost certainly a seasonal virus like influenza. I expect there will be relatively few cases in Southern Arizona as the weather warms to 80+ °F. Australia can expect cases to increase in July.
It was in the U.S. before February and spreading....A couple of days ago a small contractor called in to a local radio station. He stated that a carpenter of his got sick of symptoms similar to the Corona virus (fever, cough & aches), 3 weeks prior to the media starting to cover the issues in China with the virus. He said he sent the carpenter home but he got sick the next day, and then more of his workers got sick soon after with only 1 of his employees not getting sick. With this information, I can only assume we were already massively infected PRIOR to the panic. A lot more people are infected than stated because of a lack of testing and because most people are afraid to admit to any symptoms because they will be looked at so negatively. You can multiply the number of people who are determined to have this infection by 20+. Keep that in mind when you do the numbers and thus the death rate will be much lower. Keep in mind, ALL of the dead are tested, and only a small percentage of the living ARE. But hey I just live in reality. I went to the grocery store today....got hamburger, cheese, etc. It was all still there. I have come to realize that 90% of you people are insane and LOVE drama.
Limit the strain on the health care system, by shutting down in mass, other systems. Not buying the logic. Health care system could have been expanded and fear mongering could have been prevented. Why not quarantine the immune compromised? That would have been far simpler.
In Perth from today, the police are using their drones to hover over parks, public squares, beaches etc....equipped with loud speakers and sirens and cameras.....talk about a police state!
let's say you're cooking something nice for yourself and by accident your kitchen catches fire; let's say the curtains are the first thing that catches fire. it's not outlandish to say that the worst-case scenario is that your entire house burns down. if you do nothing this is what will happen. if you do react fast to the situation though you could limit the damage to just your curtains. best-case scenario the damage done is less than $100, worst-case scenario the damage done is more than $100,000. so the best-case and the worst-case differ by 3 orders of magnitude, at least. the huge spread in the outcomes here does not imply that we don't understand how fire spreads, or that it would be purely a matter of chance which outcome we get. we know how diseases work, we know how they spread and we do have the math to model them, unlike the economy which is much more chaotic, diseases are quite well behaved mathematically. the key to how bad a disease outbreak gets is largely how we respond to it! when the swine flu outbreak happened the UK reacted quickly and decisively, that's why the actual death toll ended up being so low!
The 3rd biggest killer in the US, is modern prescription medicine. What were you saying about these epidemiologists? Just because they have a title does not mean that your opinion should be shut down. Technocracy seems to be quelling peoples freedom of speech.
A big mistake a lot people make in calculating projections is that they use the total infected count to calculate the next days case count. One has to keep in mind is that almost all people recover within 14 days of having a positive test result. For all intensive purposes the people who test positive today will infect very few people moving forward due to them being immediately quarantined. This makes a huge difference in projected amounts. You'd be surprised at how many experts make this mistake.
Is Japan a test case? They haven't gone into lock down and it's mostly business as usual. Shouldn't there be hospitals full of covid patients and morgues being overrun with bodies? This is not the case regardless of the lack of testing.
We have had plenty of warnings about viral pandemics in recent years. We pay health officials to attend conferences around the world to learn world's best practices but we seem to be woefully underprepared and making up plans on the fly. Compare with Taiwan who sent people to Wuhan before it was in the news. They put in controls that still don't exist in Australia but they have not shut down their economy but have good outcomes.
After all this is behind us and final fatalities given will be interesting to see the comparison is to the flu,suicide, cancer, road accidents, heart attacks. What scares peeps is dying but we all die, it’s a part of life. The bigger population the more deaths, it’s a fact. Don’t be afraid of dying, embrace life and live even when the gov limits what u can do.
One interesting thing to consider is what this means for the future. Shutting down most of world's largest economies isn't how we've reacted to new diseases in the past, but will that be the expected tactic next time? I think it could be avoided if simple travel restrictions are applied early as a precaution. It will especially help for the outbreak to originate somewhere other than China so that attempts at government cover-up are less likely.
Most people did not appreciate the significance of the ‘flatten the curve’ strategy, that it slows but does not stop the pandemic. That’s why people were surprised when schools were planned to remain open, when schools are clearly the perfect control valve for adjusting the rate, once you have established control. If schools are closed, they’re going to have to spritz the virus here and there to have it finish in a reasonable time!
I think as time goes on you'll sound more and more optimistic. The death rates are drastically over estimated. If the infection rate is as high as they are saying that is. Travel from wuhan was restricted world wide very late. Considering that it was identified in December I imagine that the disease has spread through large swaths of populations. That could explain why some countries are experiencing over burdened health systems and thus much higher death rates.
The world will never be the same. Whether this is a Good or bad thing is up in the air. You country want's You to sit on your ass. Try and rise to the occasion, it's a very small thing to do to save lives. How many crying ER Doctors do you need to see to understand that this is kind of serious.
Here in America, the things people were expecting trump to do, he is not allowed to do by Constitution and separation of powers to the states and to the people. He did it right, leaving decisions up to the various state gov'nrs and they in turn let much of it up to mayors of cities to decide on how strict to make their stay-at-home orders.
My best guess would be it's probably going to last longer than six months - at least from what I've read. But if that expected timeline is forecast and exceeded by any Government (today) it's just going to make the panic worse. Nonetheless, like you, I did appreciate the balanced hysteria free contribution from Indie - as always
Actual conversation between me and a co-worker upon me returning to work after several days in precautionary self-isolation. Co-worker: How was self-isolation. Me: Shit. I couldn’t see my daughter. Co-worker: Why not? Me: Because I was in self-isolation? Co-worker: Yeah I get that. But why couldn’t you see your daughter? Me: I can smell toast.
Apart from the fact that we don't know a lot, I think we have a fair idea where the next pandemic will come from. The biggest issue with controlling one though is that there is a political cost to trying to shut down borders and as we have seen there may be little point in just doing it from the country where it is obvious. It turns out that the first case might have been earlier than thought and of so brought Covid 19 in from Austria rather than anywhere near China. That said, people I know report symptoms like Covid 19 from earlier than that, around Christmas. If true, in either case you would have to be both psychic and overcome a massive amount of political opposition to do something that would otherwise look frankly insane.
Can anyone explain why flattening the curve would prolong the down turn?. Common sense would tell the opposite would happen. The sooner everyone gets it, recovers/dies then gets back to work the sooner we get herd immunity and the sooner the economy ramps back up. Note: this is not my opinion or do i think we should just do nothing, i genuinely don't understand it beyond losing less than 1% of people.
Flattening the curve is all about ensuring the medical system doesn't get overloaded with more patients than it can handle. This is the reason Italy's death toll is so comparatively high: people who could have survived are dying because hospitals don't have the capacity to care for them.
@@TheDeadfast yeah i understand that. That's not what im getting at. I'm asking why not self isolating would prolong the down turn. Like when you look at the "flatten the curve graph" with patient's on the y axis and time on the x axis it seams to me that self isolating would prlong the economic impact more than letting it run its course.
Your first ordinary video I.M. ! , maybe i am secretly glad you could be fallible . Can someone tell me why instead of a half hearted isolation of everyone, you don't just do an excellent lock up of the over 50's and everyone else can go back to work to save the economy and the beach for a swim ? Would the virus will travel through them quickly with similar risk to a flu ? , and when the over 50"s come out to see the sun, herd immunity will protect them ...... this Howard Hughes method flies completely in the face of stats, biology, common sense, and the basic principles of risk management ........ let alone the current "solution" just leaves the population pregnant for another outbreak. Depending on the assumptions, the "precautionary" approach, may well be reducing the peak, and increasing the area under the curve ... ie more dead in total. They should publish their assumptions and reasoning.
Arrrrrrr the same as last years flu would be my critique .... independent man I urge you to possibly take a little bit more of a look into it as you are coming off not all that independent on this one my friend ... we shall just stick to things that a factual.? PLANNEDDEMIC nar I'm not even going to both if your 🤪what's going on here 🙈
With the bailout that Kevin Rudd bought in during the gfc. What’s your thoughts on the “quantative easing” which as I understand is basically making up money to dump into the economy that Scromo has just done? Considering the bashing they gave the Rudd government after the GFC. Just for clarity here I don’t have a certain preference one way or the other. I hate all politicians equally.
Well, we have kids out of school and running around the the streets, junkies walking to the chemist to get their dose and ice monsters double dosing /overdosing due to erratic supply, good times!
We need to be really careful about comparing what is working or not working in other countries, like the media loves to do. Countries, cultures, histories and geographic uniqueness make a huge difference. The best, albeit very imperfect, analogue to Australia is Canada.
9:25 "He thinks the fatality rate will be closer 0.6%" Here in Germany the reported fatality rate was at 0.4% a few days ago. I guess it will go up as our healthcare system is actually not at it's limits but I believe in the end it will be below 1%.
The only place with 100% testing was a princes cruise line ship almost entirely made up of elderly people. And they had a less than 1% fatality rate. So even 0.6% sounds high.
According to Prof. Peter Doherty, a winner of the Physiology or Medicine Nobel Price, it is unlikely for a reinfection to occur due to the body developing an immunity. Even if it did occur, the recovery would be rapid.
CS C should be better than the flu because flu is always mutating, and so you need a new vaccine every year. Hopefully one will do for SARS-cov-2 because it does not seem to mutate rapidly.
It does make some sense though, at least as far as our health system can function effectively without being over-loaded. Is it the phrase itself, or the reasoning behind it that caught your attention?
Nothing like a good old pandemic to push some narratives tho. Lots of ideologues and bored celebs can never pass up a chance like this. That's one of the saddest parts, besides the obvious that doesn't need to be mentioned.
My thoughts. China's reaction was SIGNIFICANTLY faster than Australia's. Even with the most disproving views of China's reactions, they still enacted a country wide shutdown in mid January. Australia waited until March 24th.
I'm not big into Doom and Gloom. My thoughts are what to do after this passes. In my mind something needs to be done about WHO and China. Both need to be held accountable for this since they both downplayed it until until it reached the point of no return. And the media as well need to be held accountable for being the main downplayers and even now the defenders of China, labeling anything to refers the virus to China as "racist".
@@RyanEX2000 why are you panicking, China held accountable, really, LMAO, how about all your politicians who shipped all your manufacturing jobs out to China for cheap third world labor, that goes for every Western nation, from the EU to the US to Australia. Everyone likes all those cheap Chinese goods, whaaaa, hold China accountable, really, it's a virus, what exactly did you want China to do. Do you know why Italy and Spain are the hardest hit, it's because they use cheap Chinese labor for their textile industry, the people who work at those sweat shops traveled back and forth to their homeland unrestricted, don't you know globalization/globalism/open borders is wonderful for the owners, until it isn't. People are animals that carry diseases, let's mix them all up, I mean who would have thought that viruses can spread and cause havock. Anyone blaming the Chinese need to look in the mirror. The Story of your Enslavement. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Xbp6umQT58A.html The Handbook of Human Ownership. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-k67_imEHTPE.html
@@jfphotography69 Glad to see you're ASSuming you know me, while I held off on that. First off, I'm NOT American, nor am I European. I'm West Indian. I AM well aware of the shipping of jobs overseas, which is why while I disagree with things Trump might say, in this regard I can laud him. Now onto WHY I blame China (ie, their GOVERNMENT) and WHO has nothing to do with the virus itself (unless it's man made) but rather how it was handled. China has been deceptive from the get go, with most of the information we got being fro independent sources. And WHO for not taking this seriously, going so far as to say that it wasn't serious enough to lock China out of the Global market. Is their blame to go around for Western politicians, definetly. I'd also include the media in there. But the main cause came from 1)China downplaying the virus because they didn't want to lose their top spot in global production and the WHO for holding back on how bad it was to protect China. So again, Shill harder. Though props for listening to Stephen, the guy is a legend.
2:13 Reminds me of one of the songs from the deliberately edgy band _"Die Ärzte"_ (the doctors) ... namely _"Regierung"_ (government) where the refrain is _"And the government is just watching, it is just watching doing nothing"_ (x2)
