“Different tools for different people”, that’s a great way to phrase it. I have the Pace 2 and for my running & cycling needs it is perfect. Love the battery life!
Hi Chris! I am also a runner and cyclist. It catches my attention to buy a Coros Pace 2. I wanted to ask you if, in cycling mode, it indicates the slope in real time. Thanks very much buddy.
I love the navigation feature on my Apex . It allows me to explore new trails and by planning them out beforehand I don't have to take my phone or worry about navigating during the run, which really allows me to focus on running and get into a rhythm. Build quality and battery are fantastic. But if I were to choose one for my non-trail running partner, I would certainly get the Pace 2.
Ha! Thanks. It was a bit of an experiment. I always have to edit out some road noise that comes through the windows. Using this mic reduces that quite a bit because it's closer to my mouth. Not sure if I like it in the frame though 🤔 . Thanks for the feedback!
I purchased Apex 46mm two years ago. No regrets at all. After two years, battery life is still awesome. It has everything I need. I am very pleased with Coros despite when I purchased it did not have gym mode. Nowadays it has 26 differents sport modes.
One important point…i have the Pace2 since now 2 years and its still working quite well. Big advantage is ..the Coros App over Garmin Connect is more logic from UI and more compatible with devices and more easy with connectivity. I have now a Huawei phone which doesn’t work with Garmin Connect because of missing google services. Also the user interface on Coros App is much more logic and not as „nested“ as on GC. Hope this helps…
I am a happy Pace ² carrier 😉 Missing a simple walking/hiking feature. I run rather short Ultras so I'm fine with Pace, but I'll upgrade myself some day... And then, I will look for good navigation + very good battery life. I might stay with Coros - Apex ² maybe? Note - I really like the crown to unlock and navigate the watch menu. Some people ask Coros to change it. I say NO, stick with it, especially at it's upper right corner.
The wheel is funny. Some people love it, some hate it. I like it! It is odd that they left out a "walk" and "trail run" activity though. Thanks for watching.
So in build materials the pace 2 is what in Garmins world is sold at premium price-points. But Coros is actually, even in plastic..., better build-quality than Garmin and more durable. And the Coros company seems to actually listen- and positivly interact with its userbase. Something Garmin stopped doing many years ago. Now Garmin only listens to its own golf-centric department leaders and a non-critique base of "testers & developers".
COROS is catching up quick! But Garmin still has features like offline mapping, music, wifi, and the Connect IQ store that make it unique. Thanks for watching.
Was ready to choose a Garmin until I discovered COROS. Would choose the PACE 2 if it came in 46mm or larger. I doubt I will use additional Apex features but better battery life and larger format without adding too much weight sold me. I just wish the charging mechanism was like the iWatch though. The upside from what I understand, the COROS watches charge fully within 1 hour or so. Been wanting to replace my iWatch for years waiting for a sports watch with battery life that lasts at least 30 days. Hoping to see a smartwatch with 12 months of battery life in coming years :)
The only thing that kept me from getting a Pace 2 over my FR745 was the absence of music. I don't run with my phone on me. I do believe what Coros has been doing in such a short time is truly admirable. They'll be doing great things in the near future.
Bought the Apex 46mm,and very happy with that!Love the battery life and the simplicity of use!Coros app is very impressive!Had Suunto before but sold for Coros.. You rewiews helped me big time,thanks for that! Keep up the great work Buddy!!!
Thank you for your detail description for "Apex". In Japan there are many "Apex pro" description, but no "Apex" description. I decide to buy "Apex 42mm". I think it's very cool outlook because of metal cover.
Thank you for your review! I use to look to your videos but now it’s time for a new sport watch and I am reviewing different videos you have recorded in the past and now… I feel that you have help me to diced witch one I should buy! It will be the Apex. An it is fir all the good things you have said plus the sice. 42mm looks a little “ridiculous” on my wrist. Thanks again and keep going!!! Greetings from Stockholm-Sweden!.
Another great video about Coros products!! Congrats!! Just a question: there is no availability to transfer music to Coros watches? Even through USB cable?
Great video Dave,the intros are getting really slick. Nice review, but atm I'm not giving up my Fenix 6. Is weight really a thing for watches? I'm from a body building/power lifting background and I have no issues with any watch. I do only run 10k max but even then I hardly notice the weight of the Fenix6.
Thanks G Edd! Weight can certainly be a thing for certain people. I'd say a body builder is less prone to weight being noticeable 😂 . For me it's usually only something I notice when I'm trying to sleep or on suuuuper long runs. Thanks for watching!
Hi! Love your videos. I am getting into my first GPS watch and I have been look predominantly at Coros, but I am open to other brands. I love the value you get with Coros for what I want, being able to upload to Strava and track at a basic level. I do not need fancy features. I trail run more than run on roads and was wondering if you would recommend the Pace 2 if I do have ultramarathon aspirations or if I am best of just going for the Apex? I have looked into the Garmin Instinct Solar, Coros Apex Pro and even the Garmin Fenix 6 but I do not think I need all the features of the latter two and the Apex seems better than the Instinct. Thanks so much for the help!
Apex will get you a little bit more battery life and the navigation features which might be handy for ultras. It also has a proper "Trail Run" activity which is helpful. The Pace 2 would do the job just has a few less features and isn't build quite as nice.
@@ChaseTheSummit i really love the watch and size.The Gps tracks are spot on to my Garmin 945 as well as altitude.The battery life is insane in standby and gps.My only concern is the fitness metrics......resting heart rate is off cause if you don't use continuous heart rate its way off.Otherwise like the running power from the wrist.Overall a very solid watch.Cheers.
The pace 2 is perfect for me for I mostley use in the gym..programing my strength weight lifting workouts is great as I have A B C workouts I do. But it's not the best as I wish they had more excersices. Also found tye reo counter not to be spot on. But that said it's not that big a deal. I don't really go for runs but I do long walks amd bike and it works pretty good. I think it may be best bang for the buck fitness watch out there.
Great video! Only thing I am wondering is if there's any customisable activity options for either of these watches? I've had a look on the specs on Coros's website and it's not clear if this is possible. For context I want it for swimruns with multiple transitions in and out of the water
The Coros Pace 2 and Apex both support triathlon or multi-sport mode and can be customized to have up to three sports per activity. So you could do "swim, run, swim" or "run, swim, run" but there's no way to add more than three transitions without starting activities back to back. Hope that helps!
Is coros pacee 2 not able to be made for a trailling? What is the difference between the two if coros pace 2 using a run mode at the time of the trail running?
It's just missing that profile and any form of navigation tools like the Apex has. You can certainly use the "run" profile but it will mess up the VO2 Max estimator in the watch if that matters to you.
@@ChaseTheSummit bought the Apex finally. Pace 2 seems nice but need the Nordic ski fonction and like the extra nice finition for daily wear (42mm). But pace 2 is definitely awesome, a pity it is full plastic.
Does it really matter if the watch is lacking a dedicated activity profile like “hiking”? Wouldn’t selecting something like “walking” or “running” capture all the same data, or are there other changes that I’m unaware of?
For the most part it's fine. The problem is if you use "running" for non-running activities your training data will be off like estimated V02 Max and training load.
Very helpful your video, looking to buy coros 2 . What about the coros apps? Some people say isn’t really good . Actually I use garmin Connect and Strava .
Hi Chase, here Cassio from Brazil!! Very nice video!!!! But I have just one question. You said that the APEX is made by Titanium, but its for the both watches, the 42 and the 46 or just the 46mm?
Maybe? In my testing they're pretty similar. COROS did mention that the Nylon strap I used with my Pace 2 does help with HR accuracy because of how customizable the fit is.
I used apex pro almost 2 yrs.Great watch for someone who looking for great battery life per $$$ & ok GPS. In activity that watch working fine ,but my problem is after finish workout.All data from your workout ( training load,fitness index,fitness level ) are off & you not even know how that number come from.I wish Coros focus more on app development software or if possible plz hire someone from Polar to help you work on all the data & build your own version of Polar flow.
Thanks for sharing. I've noticed my V02 Max is quite lower in the COROS app compared to other platforms like Polar and Garmin. Not sure who's right though because I've never been tested in a lab! There's a rumor out there that they're working on lots of development! (I didn't say anything 🙊)
I have returned my Pace2 after 2 weeks as the power I was getting when connected to my Powertap G3 was always lower than any Suunto, Polar, or Garmin watches I had. Despite my eagerness and readiness to help with troubleshooting, Coros was not motivated even to look at my data. Sad, because that was actually the only reason why I decided to return the watch.
Hi Chase. In your opinion, is the purchase of the Apex 46 / Pro the right choice compared to a competing Garmin with a similar price ?! Apex is an old model, released in late 2018! Its advantages are battery life, sapphire display, titanium body and 10atm. Compared to its Garmin competitors, the Apex has a small number of sport modes (not even walking!), The track/GPX navigation is weaker. Missing: WEB App, payments, emergency messages, music, etc ...! Isn't the price for Apex 46 (2018) and especially Apex Pro (2019) high? What do we pay for materials or functions for?
In what way is the tracking wearker on the Apex? Or did you mean navigation features? The Coros vs Garmin debate really comes down what you want out of your watch. If you want all of the bells and whistles Garmin offers with Garmin Pay, Music, Wifi, etc... then the choice is obvious. However, to get all of those things you'll need to spend a minimum of $500 for a Garmin Forerunner 745 or 945 since the Forerunner 245 doesn't offer Garmin Pay, or advanced navigation/mapping. The Apex comes in at $299 for the 42mm model and offers premium build quality with Sapphire glass and titanium bezel. So there's certainly a price difference. The other aspect is the software. Some folks just like simple devices and that is where COROS shines. It gets the job done without a lot of the fluff that Garmin's ecosystem has. I personally like both for different reasons 👌
@@ChaseTheSummit Hi Chase! Thanks for the reply. My impressions are based on reviews on the Internet. I have never had a sports smart watch and I want to buy the first one. Okay, yes, you are absolutely right! When I think about it again and try to explain my idea to you, I realize that I'm not very right. Therefore, I take my words back! From internet reviews of the navigation capabilities of the Coros with GPX track, I was left with the impression that they are not equivalent to Garmin. For example, when the trail has 2 or 3 branches or the "back to start" function. Please just answer, is Coros navigation equivalent to Garmin in mountain trail running? Greetings!
Standing in the pick beetween pace 2 and apex, just for hike an biking. What do you recommend? Or do you Have a better choice. And can i start the backlight somehow without a button for it at night. Alex/Sweden
I'd go Pace 2 as of right now only because the Apex will no longer get new features via firmware since it's internal storage is maxxed out. Apex is a great watch though and it offers navigation while the Pace 2 does not. If you don't need something NOW you could also hold out for the next generation Apex which is rumored to come out sometime this summer!
Ordered pace2 day 1 and not very satisfied with it . I like customization and more control of the system which you don't get with coros's simple OS. Waiting patiently for Garmin's next flagship.
I have a Garmin 945 that I use for Ultras. For what I paid for the watch, I'm not impressed with the material quality, but I got the watch for battery-life and the map (gpx) features. Well, it works..., running via gpx, but on occasion when its a really bendy and zig-zaggy route, the 945 looses precision and update speed and starts sounding like as if I taped an angry Canary to my wrist. In terms of how easy and intuitively it is to be navigated by, is it then the Garmin or the Coros ? You have tried them.
Garmin watches tend to have superior navigation features simply because of their background in GPS devices. The 945 in particular is one of the best on the market and features offline mapping which no other brand is doing yet. The COROS navigation features work well but they're not quite on the same level yet. Hope that helps.
They're both great. The 245 has a bit more smartwatch features and the ability to download additional features from Garmins Connect IQ store. It also has the option of having offline music storage. The Coros Pace 2 is a much simpler watch but is super reliable and has great battery life. The Pace 2 also has the Running Power metric which the 245 needs an additional sensor to record. The 245 is also more expensive. The choice is yours! They're both good in their own regard.
Hi. I would like to ask if you are going to test yourself zte watch gt. I know that this is more of a smartwatch with sports functions than a sports watch. Price approx. 90-120 €. 5atm, 5days battery life, gps 35h, for someone who plays football it is a nice heatmap function, maybe you can use it to also play tennis . Only the worst is amoled. If a garmin or coros had a heatmap (soccer / tennis) that would make it easier for me to choose a watch. I forgot to add that the zte watch has a pulse oximeter.(spo2). Greeting !
They're very similar. The 935 gives you a little more integration with smart features from your phone. The Apex offers better battery life and a more robust build with a sapphire glass and metal case. Both are excellent at tracking activities. Hope that helps!
It does but it's not a great fit. The holes on the Fenix 6 are bigger to accomodate the quick fit pins so the smaller pins on the Coros strap kind of rattle around inside. It works though.
I am going to get the Apex 46mm over the Pace 2 just for the larger face. If I use your link to purchase, would I have the same warranty as if I bought straight from Coros?
The Apex is a great watch! Yes, my links are simply a re-direct to Amazon or PlayBetter. Both are authorized dealers and my link doesn't do anything to your purchase it simply lets them know I sent them which provides me with a small percentage commission (it's very small lol). I appreciate it!
I'm sure something is coming! I actually like that they don't constantly release new devices. Instead they seem to focus on improving what they have in firmware updates and I respect that. Hopefully the next iteration brings something new in the hardware.
Depends. If you want a little more battery life, a touch screen, SP02 Sensor and an extra dedicated backlight button then it might be worth it. Apex Pro also has a few exclusive activities like wind surfing. To be honest the touch screen and SP02 sensor aren’t all that valuable except for certain situations. The Apex pro is a bit bulkier but also feels incredibly well built. Is that worth $150? You tell me 🤷♂️
You're confusing diameter with circumference, just saying. The diameter is a straight line going from one point in the circumference to the opposite point, splitting the whole circle in two perfect halves. The circumference is what you were tracing with your finger. The circumference is always higher in cm than the diametre.
Its rated down to 14F ambient temperature. However if it's on your wrist it's likely to never get that cold thanks to your body heat. Realistically I'd bet you could go way into the negative as long as it's on your wrist and under some kind of jacket. Hope that helps!
@@ChaseTheSummit Great, thanks for the info! I'll be using it in the Whites of NH for all seasons. With body heat tho as you said even up there it should be good if its mostly covered up in winter
I bought the Apex 46mm last week and found out that scrolling through data pages is a bit laggy on my device. Especially if I want to go up like three data pages during a workout I cant just scroll up very fast 3 times - I have to "wait" for each animation. It annoys me cause I came from a Polar, where I could just press the Button three times and knew where I were. The srcolling through the menu or activities works just fine on my Apex though. Is it maybe a thing with the Apex that the processor cant catch up with the new updates? Or is it just my device?
I think I know what you’re talking about. Most of the Coros watches aren’t super responsive in the widget scrolling and I think it’s because they prioritize battery life over pretty animations. It would be cool if you could skip by widgets a bit quicker though. Thanks for sharing.
Unfortunately I can't comment on that as I haven't tried it in open water. Check out Matt Legrand, DesFit and DC Rainmakers reviews... They may be able to help!
I've got a video about that! But it's ripe for an updated video maybe comparing it to the Vertix? It's essentially the same guts as an Apex but with more battery life, a more rugged build, and of course that "night mode" . Hope that helps!
@@ChaseTheSummit for this cash, a good display should be a standard. Since no smartwatch is a medical equipment grade product and it's readings are a tip and should be treated as such, not an absolute value, one should expect more at this price point. I get it that they did it because LCD consumes less power this way, but compared to AMOLED screens, it's ugly as hell.
