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In this episode: we discuss the recent emergent lore following the first recorded Infection of a Spartan by the Flood, and how MJOLNIR armor responds to it.
Saturn devouring his son;
• Halo: Saturn Devouring...
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@Installation00
@Installation00 10 месяцев назад
Saturn Devouring his Son: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9H9Pj2YhpyQ.htmlsi=MtfjWqfjnvWgFQyA
@ambiguumspectatoremespecta9803
@ambiguumspectatoremespecta9803 10 месяцев назад
15:20 The following below was copy and pasted word for word from the Halo Waypoint Intel 1: Gallows which goes more into dept on Mjolnir anti - flood counter measures. WARNING: FSC SIGNATURE DETECTED ALERT ENERGY SHIELDS DEPLETED; ARMOR BREACH CONFIRMED SPARTAN COMPROMISED . . . FSC INFECTION CONFIRMED . COUNTERMEASURES INITIATED . . . . \HYDROSTATIC GEL LAYER PRESSURIZED . . . SUCCESS \GALLOWS DATALINK SEVERENCE . . . SUCCESS \BEGIN REACTOR DETONATION . . . FAILURE . . \CODE INJECTION DETECTED \COUNTERMEASURES CANCELED BECOME \ARMOR BREACH SEALED \ENERGY SHIELDS RECHARGED BECOME \ARMOR SYSTEMS REPAIRED UNITY. SWEETNESS. As can be seen the Spartans Mjolnir Armor attempted to detonate its micro fusion power plant but was prevented from executing it by the flood itself.
@teamancilla6226
@teamancilla6226 10 месяцев назад
This story was so chilling and a perfect treatment for the Flood. I only wish we had more!
@jrwilliams4029
@jrwilliams4029 10 месяцев назад
I was wondering when you were going to cover this after being apprised if it’s existence on HiddenX. Glad you are covering it.
@plaguenotprophet7840
@plaguenotprophet7840 10 месяцев назад
With all Spartans in the field scattered, and the flood returning, the time has come for all Spartans to return to combat. We must reunite, to stop the end of all things
@KantoKait
@KantoKait 10 месяцев назад
14:45 lol, or they coul have, almost random, Fusion pack detonations. 15:30 we got there. Will this be the theme of the battle royal, that's in the works?
@katanafourzeronine
@katanafourzeronine 10 месяцев назад
"When a Spartan becomes infected with the Flood." That's a string of words I really don't want to see together.
@Moonlight_Tide
@Moonlight_Tide 7 месяцев назад
Almost as scary as hearing a doctor say "rabies went airborne"
@TheAKgunner
@TheAKgunner День назад
@@Moonlight_TideFrankly, I’d prefer the rabies.
@razalfraz6618
@razalfraz6618 10 месяцев назад
To me the head bombs were definitely an asset denial for information and to hopefully destroy the neural-link to the armor
@odinulveson9101
@odinulveson9101 10 месяцев назад
Yup. Perfect and logical cover for utter extermination of both flood, spartan, evidence
@orionriftclan2727
@orionriftclan2727 10 месяцев назад
If I remember, the nuclear fusion reactor can detonate as a failsafe
@thewerdna
@thewerdna 10 месяцев назад
​@orionriftclan2727 which in the first lore drop there was suit diagnosis from an infected Spartan that said the fusion reactor detination failed
@orionriftclan2727
@orionriftclan2727 10 месяцев назад
@@thewerdna oh dear the Precursors, welp that's bad
@matthewchristian9591
@matthewchristian9591 10 месяцев назад
​@@thewerdnayeah but there is a manual self destruct switch on the suit why did no one use it?
@RandemFellow
@RandemFellow 10 месяцев назад
The Mjolnir tried to detonate, but the self destruction was neutralized by the infection form. And the brain was destroyed by the gallows protocol, but the infection form still managed to survive.
@danmullen6744
@danmullen6744 7 месяцев назад
I thought the implication of having the suits reactor meltdown was “we know the floods gonna use the Spartans body to stack bodies no stopping that if it happens, but this at least puts a timer on the flood forms usefulness” I think oni understood a flood infected spartan was endgame for the species so all the contingencies prior to the meltdown are just to make the Spartans body a little less useful for the flood in the meantime the armour lock won’t stop the flood but it at least slows it down a bit blowing up their head hopefully limits the usable Intel from the Spartans memories and the meltdown puts a timer on how long they can use them as a combat form, in saying all that yeah we know the flood can change physics they were trying to jump start a slip space drive in Mona Lisa I wouldn’t be shocked if in lore yeah they can just stop the meltdown logic plague or domain magic 😂
@Impartial_Sojourner
@Impartial_Sojourner 10 месяцев назад
The GALLOWS procedure is exactly designed to prevent a Keyes-level situation. The suit was also attempting to initiate a self-destruct sequence, but somehow, the logic plague was used to circumvent that. There is a blurb on Waypoint that supports this. Which is wild because I thought only the Gravemind could do that at a certain level of growth, but crimony, that's terrifying.
@BoisegangGaming
@BoisegangGaming 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, the Flood manipulating technology the same way they manipulate biomass is probably the scariest part of the cosmic horror. Nothing is safe. Everything can be corrupted.
@debbiebernhardt5406
@debbiebernhardt5406 10 месяцев назад
Code damage must of occured. The flood could reck the code of any ai, including Cortana. The system was breached right before failsafe engaged.
@commanderjason7786
@commanderjason7786 10 месяцев назад
I'm kinda surprised 00 didn't mention this. I assume he probably didn't see the Waypoint post? I don't blame him for missing it, it's mixed in with the other season Intel stuff.
@Xeno-The-Wanderer
@Xeno-The-Wanderer 10 месяцев назад
I heard once that at a certain level the flood has all aspects able to inject the logic plague as they’re just another extension of the central intelligence so maybe there is one around or once gained the rest are able to do so… alternatively these being flood from before the halo firing seemingly protected by the ship could mean they kept access to the ability despite the loss of all key minds. Alternatively all are able to and the necessity of a grave mind is a misconception
@matthewchristian9591
@matthewchristian9591 10 месяцев назад
Ok so why didn't anyone hit the manual self destruct switch on the suit that one cant be stopped. Also yes only graveminds can use the logic plague combat and infection forms dont have the iq to do this. So either this is a non canon story which is what i believe. Or and this is the worst option there is already a gravemind here and no one knows it.
@ParkerClements-jb3cu
@ParkerClements-jb3cu 10 месяцев назад
It's low key comical that the protocol for dealing with the flood essentially boils down to a war crime exclusive operation
@c.w.simpsonproductions1230
@c.w.simpsonproductions1230 10 месяцев назад
The captain in this story made my blood boil. Captain Keyes went through one of the most horrific deaths in the entire franchise to protect the galaxy from the Flood, and this prick spat in the face of Keyes and every other hero who died stopping them and put the whole galaxy at risk just to fatten his wallet.
@111Tommyg
@111Tommyg 10 месяцев назад
that and Jenkins
@TaliaDaFawx
@TaliaDaFawx 10 месяцев назад
to be honest, it was foolish for the Special Forces branches in Halo to assume their Guillotine Protocol would stop a Spartan from becoming infected. If they really wanted to be thorough, the whole body needs to be disintegrated to prevent the Flood from making use of any biological material needed to help it spread. The Guillotine Protocol is just extremely flawed to the point where I wonder if the ones behind the protocol just watched a bunch of zombie flicks and assumed that the head was the part needed to be intact for the Flood to spread
@derekmensch3601
@derekmensch3601 10 месяцев назад
Honestly it feels like duck and cover for me. Purely there for the user to feel safe
@ambiguumspectatoremespecta9803
@ambiguumspectatoremespecta9803 10 месяцев назад
The purpose is to deny the flood sensitive information known to the spartan. Remember that when the flood takes over a host it not only hijacks their body but also assimilates the hosts knowledge into it's own hivemind collective. The purpose of destroying the Spartans head and therefore brain is to negate that factor from occurring.
@warriorshedge6772
@warriorshedge6772 10 месяцев назад
As is the lore.. Logic plague from my understanding, controls AI, not premeditated algorithms. How does the flood super cell break through mjolnir? Not the pod, the microorganism! What was dumb, was sending in a small team to handle a "who knows how big" infected asteroid.. And of course incompetence is what releases the flood again, the captain of the ship wants fucking glory.. From beating what the forerunners couldn't.. I don't like this return. AGAIN, BRINGING THEM BACK IN THE MULTIPLAYER MAKES NO SENSE, the flood is an iconic cinematic threat that deserves proper screen time, not some bullshit trailer which shows nothing of the flood's return.. What a fucking travesty, why does no one talk about that, halo fans used to give death threats for getting the shotgun color wrong, now you guys have.. Effectively become cod and battlefield fans. Just a controllable populous
@Evan_Wingerter
@Evan_Wingerter 10 месяцев назад
I feel its more for the flood to be incapable of stealing the memories and knowledge of a spartan
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem 10 месяцев назад
​@@warriorshedge6772 Yes, I feel there should have been a bit more of a response. But death threats are never acceptable. Do not complain about their absence.
@slicer940
@slicer940 10 месяцев назад
13:48 I’ve mentioned this in past videos but can we highlight just how smart the flood is, even in its opening stages? It lured the marines into the facility in Halo CE, ambushed the 2nd squad- Closest to the exit and also covering any retreat. And took down the 2nd pelican without alerting any of the marines that were with Keyes and Johnson. Then they lured the Chief into the same trap. Lastly they realized how important the captain was and made it a priority to get to a ship with him partially infected and away from any combat, and then placing him under heavy guard. If that isn’t horror idk what is. And it’s shame it’s never really touched on by the lord or RU-vidrs to that depth.
@AxisChurchDevotee
@AxisChurchDevotee 10 месяцев назад
Likely due to the flood already having a proto gravemind by that point so they were in the coordinator stage giving them the ability to think.
@malcolmsaint
@malcolmsaint 10 месяцев назад
And this is mentioned to be feral flood. Ill be using your comment to highlight how intelligent they are even at the stage of being feral.
@starsilverinfinity
@starsilverinfinity 10 месяцев назад
I mean, thats kinda what happens when the Flood gets even a modicum of information - I would say its less "The flood are smart" and more "the flood knows how to capitalize on any intel". Any marines they turned would immediately have the battle plans in them turned against them - they would know of the evac pelicans, the importance of various personnel, the location of anything important those marines had been too (assuming the marine knows of course), etc. Then they immediately moved to make sure they can get more intel to fill the gaps in their infoweb Feral flood coordinate with pheromones and are said to not be very coordinated, but really it just means they simply b-line for more intel as soon as they get that first drop
@ReachStudioPro
@ReachStudioPro 9 месяцев назад
As a Flood expert myself, it delights me when I see people noticing these traits from them. It's like the feeling of not being alone anymore.
@marissadougal5125
@marissadougal5125 7 месяцев назад
@@malcolmsaint it’s moments like this you understand truly why the forerunners were so scared of the flood and took such drastic measures.
@crota6233
@crota6233 10 месяцев назад
hype loved saturn devouring his son, my favorite part was the dude thinking about whether or not he could run from the unsc or accept his court marshal
@captain_arbiter3167
@captain_arbiter3167 10 месяцев назад
Something critical you forgot to note that in the Gallows intel drop among the lines a code there’s a line that say “Nuclear Fusion Cell Detonation……… FAILED” I think that’s implying there is in fact a countermeasure to destroy the suit but the flood infection was able to stop it.
@Nope-dk4sh
@Nope-dk4sh 10 месяцев назад
The suits had/have a self destruct failsafe to stop the tech falling into "hostile hands" doesn't it?
@spirit1643
@spirit1643 10 месяцев назад
It sure does have that failsafe. It's been a long while since I've read the books, but I swear they mention that ability to destroy the suit.
@Commander_Appo
@Commander_Appo 10 месяцев назад
That’s what I was going to comment
@nestorgamer9746
@nestorgamer9746 10 месяцев назад
@@spirit1643 yeah during Operation First Strike, when one of the Spartans assaulting the Unyielding Hierophant gets killed
@jaredvillhelm2002
@jaredvillhelm2002 10 месяцев назад
@@nestorgamer9746 came here to say this
@stray4244
@stray4244 10 месяцев назад
I think the flood were able to interface with the suit and turn off the hydrostatic gel layer being pressurized. It did turn off the suit's self-nuke protocol, I imagine it could disable the layer if it could do that.
@LeFrenchman-id5xb
@LeFrenchman-id5xb 10 месяцев назад
A few thoughts come to mind. One, the fact that Chief managed to survive his first and multiple encounters against the Gravemind was not only lucky but extremely pissed off the Flood. No doubt this guy was making up plans to get his teeth on some Spartan biomass somehow after that. Two, during the climax of the battle I loved how it seemed to the other personnel that they might actually win the fight against the Flood. My first thought was holy fuck those Spartans must be getting pounded cuz they were definitely the parasite's target after they showed up. Failing to follow protocol was the biggest fuck up that day and everyone around knew it lol
@maeshg1969
@maeshg1969 10 месяцев назад
15:30 there actually is measure to activate the fusion core just that the flood managed to get there before it actually detonated
@DaddyHensei
@DaddyHensei 8 месяцев назад
The suit tried to blow but the flood compromised the failsafe. The head bomb is a back up to be sure that at least the most critical piece doesn't fall into enemies hands. It's really pretty smart, on humanities part. They hedged their bets by including another method of self destruction. At the end of the day, all the flood will walk away with is a stronger meat puppet, compared to other combat forms. Spartans are tough but it's their mind that's the real force multiplier, without they're just a stronger combat form in fancy armor.
@sasukeoftheleaf3179
@sasukeoftheleaf3179 10 месяцев назад
I loved Saturn devouring his son, it was an amazing story and I really want a continuation!!! As far as theories go however, I have a few. It’s possible that the flood has already infiltrated the suits systems. I say that because even the text in the "Rusalka" armor kit states "CORRUPTER, UPSILON, no not for you" which makes me think the flood manually stopped the rest of the suit from being destroyed. Not only that but I’ve reason to believe (even if this wasn’t that important) that the Spartan in the rusalka armor was the first to fall. That being because the visor is literally split open, as if it exploded but failed to fully break the helmet. I’m not sure if all of fireteam leviathan was infected as it’s rather ambiguous. Anyway, just my thoughts, great video!!!
@RuzzyID
@RuzzyID 7 месяцев назад
Usually the Flood try to prioritise killing Spartans over infecting them because majority of the time it's too difficult due to the augmentations and it takes too long, so they'd rather kill them.
@nagi603
@nagi603 10 месяцев назад
...but what if the human physiology can take only that much, and the spartan simply cannot be so highly overclocked as a regular human, even by the flood? I'd say it's most likely that while a human flood form is strengthened by X, the spartan might not possess as much hidden/unused potential. It might still be much powerful as a non-infected spartan, but not such a jump as the spartan is to a baseline human.
@blueguy2128
@blueguy2128 10 месяцев назад
You're right but common sense and logic left Halo a long time ago. Now Spartans are fuckin power rangers remember? Now Spartans can kill with the simplest flex of their ass cheeks remember? Everybody thinking Spartans are all fuckin Goku in armor is stupid as hell
@lilbitbonkerz
@lilbitbonkerz 10 месяцев назад
"Shout out to John for... I don't fucking know" 😂😂😂
@devonwarnock2625
@devonwarnock2625 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for this upload while you're going through so much. Your community is always here for you bro.
@Installation00
@Installation00 10 месяцев назад
I appreciate that. 😊
@FTSARES18
@FTSARES18 10 месяцев назад
A Spartan is a terrifying thing to behold but it was only a matter of time before one became infected they way I look at it of course ONI would want to keep that under wraps
@halolasomaster3900
@halolasomaster3900 10 месяцев назад
I'm glad some people recognize Halo Wars lore
@Sebastianguitar01
@Sebastianguitar01 10 месяцев назад
On the Halo lore, Spartans II John 117 and Jerome 092 were almost infected, but were saved by Cortana & Serina before the flood managed to pierce through their armour after their shields got depleted, and that was in both cases with Mark V armour that wasn't designed for flood encounters. This short story game me thoughts, maybe the spartans IV encountered forerunner flood forms or even pure forms like tanks, juggernauts or else thst were able to infect them, the only certain thing is that there's a condor on the lose with 4 infected spartans IV floods that can start a new outbreak if this story is handled properly.
@TheNotoriousLARGE
@TheNotoriousLARGE 10 месяцев назад
Flood Spartans aren't completely destroyed almost certainly because ONI wants to study them. Definitely something they'd try despite the unbelievable risk
@AxisChurchDevotee
@AxisChurchDevotee 10 месяцев назад
Guess they learned nothing from the Mona Lisa.
@shadowwarrior1003
@shadowwarrior1003 10 месяцев назад
no, the armor is meant to detonate the fusion core on the suit, but it failed to detonate, likely due to flood interfacing with the systems
@TheNotoriousLARGE
@TheNotoriousLARGE 10 месяцев назад
@@shadowwarrior1003 He didn't say that the fusion core is detonated, he asked why it isn't. And I'm suggesting why I think so. Corruptor Protocol specifically mentions destroying the Spartans head, nothing about the whole body. Could be that it's meant to and failed, but it's not clear
@shadowwarrior1003
@shadowwarrior1003 10 месяцев назад
@@TheNotoriousLARGE destroy the head to prevent intel yes, but the protocol of the suits are meant to detonate the fusion core, which failed to occur
@TheNotoriousLARGE
@TheNotoriousLARGE 10 месяцев назад
@@shadowwarrior1003 Where does it say that? I haven't read or heard it anywhere. Because, again, in the video 00 asks *why* the fusion core isn't detonated, he doesn't say that it's supposed to
@conflictt3224
@conflictt3224 7 месяцев назад
My theory is that, regardless of if the suit detonated, it would not be considered enough for ONI comfort. Even if they detonate the suit, they would then on top of that be nuking the entire continent that spartan was on anyway. So at that point, why worry about it? Lock it in place, destroy the brain, and even everyone within the solar system drops every ounce of ordinance they have on the location. Detonating the chest isn't seen as necessary, especially since they probably don't know the Flood Spartan can move in Armor Lock since it's never happened before now.
@thesuperstorm4940
@thesuperstorm4940 10 месяцев назад
A message is heard over all UNSC communication channels the message repeats: Corruptor is engaged, Corruptor is engaged
@remipearce597
@remipearce597 10 месяцев назад
Not only the fact that the Spartans have key information thay should not get leaked but by blowing the head you also destroy the ai core in the Spartans helmet, the ai while rare are potentially the single worst thing the flood could infect with the logic plague, as found by the forerunners
@Tallacus
@Tallacus 10 месяцев назад
so if the suit kills the Spartan but that was still not enough to kill the parasite, I remember reading the Flood novel and it does gives us the horrifying account of a marine who was infected and he was literally not in control of his body, to know Flood infection doesnt kill you, you consciousness still lives only for you to witness this other thing take use you like that, terrifying...
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 10 месяцев назад
I've wondered this before and had always assumed there was some reason they hadn't. Will be interesting to watch this and challenge the things I had taken for granted. It would be kinda fun if the armour had a self-destruct function when flood invasion of the suit is detected. Edit: just over halfway done. This is way more intense that I had been visualising. You'd think the ship could use generators to generate a shock or energy discharge to destroy the form and incinerate the body. But maybe the biomass could simply fill in the suit anyway
@JV-lz3jd
@JV-lz3jd 10 месяцев назад
Listening to the story there were a lot of factors that led to the Spartans being infected and it was the fault of the captain for disobeying The ship’s AI warning to send a spartan team to try to reclaim the forerunner ship . Even though they had Hellbringers and cyclops units as backup but it was still not enough to save them.
@thesuperstorm4940
@thesuperstorm4940 10 месяцев назад
I will mention this about the Armour Kit Rusulka, the armour seen on the Spartan is the, Recon helmet (as seen on Jun marksman of the Spartan team Noble), ODST shoulder pads and Type FJ knee guards
@asimovstarling8806
@asimovstarling8806 10 месяцев назад
The uncomfortable answer, the one every spartan alive dreads, Is yes. And that answer is already staring us in the face, waiting for us to stare back.
@PackHunter117
@PackHunter117 10 месяцев назад
*I feel really bad for the Spartan. That’s one helluva way to die.*
@MaxsonAtTheFort
@MaxsonAtTheFort 10 месяцев назад
Technically the Spartan is still alive, he’s conscious while he watches in horror as his body goes on a rampage against former friends and allies.
@egcarbone2410
@egcarbone2410 10 месяцев назад
@@MaxsonAtTheFortI mean his brain is a pile of singed viscera, he’s not alive
@MaxsonAtTheFort
@MaxsonAtTheFort 10 месяцев назад
@@egcarbone2410 He’s still talking in his mind though, kinda how Keyes was when he was being absorbed into the Proto Gravemind
@stray4244
@stray4244 10 месяцев назад
@@MaxsonAtTheFort Or was that the other guy mentioned in the story? The miner we follow got infected. Or maybe it was one of the other Spartans that got infected? There was more than one I think.
@egcarbone2410
@egcarbone2410 10 месяцев назад
@@MaxsonAtTheFortno, the person having an internal conflict is Julian, not the Spartan.
@joshsmith923
@joshsmith923 10 месяцев назад
Something maybe overlooked... what happens to a Ai that is paired to an infected spartan?
@noahzuniga2079
@noahzuniga2079 10 месяцев назад
Oooohhh, i wonder? Could it make the infected even more dangerous? We know AI will fall to the logic plague. But an infected spartan paired with a logic plague afflicted AI. That's a scary thought.
@ajgunemm
@ajgunemm 10 месяцев назад
Logic plague I'd guess
@bable6314
@bable6314 10 месяцев назад
@@noahzuniga2079 It's unlikely that the Flood could infect a Smart AI with the logic plague fast enough to prevent that AI from detonating the armor's fusion reactor.
@noahzuniga2079
@noahzuniga2079 10 месяцев назад
@@bable6314 that is most definitely a good probability
@admiralshadowofasunderedst3068
@admiralshadowofasunderedst3068 10 месяцев назад
​@bable6314 we know the flood was able to stop the armor from denoting it's reactor.
@PhilipMcCrotch
@PhilipMcCrotch 10 месяцев назад
343 need to wise up and get the flood back into the campaign
@dovahkiin7253
@dovahkiin7253 10 месяцев назад
We'll be waiting a LONG time, if it happens at all
@odinulveson9101
@odinulveson9101 10 месяцев назад
Prepare to wait looooooong. They dont got the spine to it yet. Perfect excuse? " We ( M$ too even ).. we will make H.I multiplayer the best it can be.. so um yeah you asked for it, so no more campaign stuff since we need to draw the resources from their department.. oh and NO more live service cinematics and story telling either! Take that nagging fans! " 😂 just overexxegerating... still....
@woodsyjones
@woodsyjones 10 месяцев назад
Halo lore just brings me immense joy. It feels necessary as a part of my life it means that much to me!!
@Human_01
@Human_01 10 месяцев назад
Informative! That was both fun and immersive to listen to. Great job on the video. Kudos!✨👏👏
@divorcelawyer8352
@divorcelawyer8352 10 месяцев назад
You know, I feel it would have been smarter to set off a 2 stage detonation. First the head is destroyed to 100% guarantee that the flood won’t get info out of the spartan, then have the rest of the armor or at least the chest cavity explode, neutralizing it’s ability to fight.
@daruphir
@daruphir 10 месяцев назад
You should try and do an autopsy of a flood infected spartan by an Oni-Cdc specialist.
@GModBMXer
@GModBMXer 10 месяцев назад
So it seems the only thing this protocol wanted to accomplish was delaying the Graveminds memory absorption in the end. Its incredible how well-thought the Halo series is. Factoring limitations, solutions and overall goals.
@TobeWilsonNetwork
@TobeWilsonNetwork 9 месяцев назад
Probably will be the last well executed and interesting expansion of the Halo lore. At least they’re going out answering a few lore fan questions.
@joeycampbell940
@joeycampbell940 8 месяцев назад
Honestly ive always thought a glassing followed later by a railgun barrage would be great flood control while leaving the earth mixed enough to repopulate the area shortly afterwards.
@I_dcd
@I_dcd 10 месяцев назад
You know looking back on what you described here. The post Halo 4 era would have been actually perfect for a galactic wide exploration of the Halo array in the games. You could still implement plenty of enemies such as put out of contact rouge covenant groups in rare encounters, the sentinels itself with their wide variety of varient classes, and most importantly the flood being a main centerpoint of threat due to outbreaks occuring due to mistakes from inexperience with containment protocol. Overall it would make for a fitting plot to explore the bigger picture of this universe and the games finally shedding light on the precursors as well. Even future events following Infinte still has the opportunity to explore these possibilities.
@hellbentstudios8721
@hellbentstudios8721 10 месяцев назад
I really liked that ending! Was rather haunting. One thing I think is terrifying about an infected spartan isn't the strength but the SPEED of them. If they can just about keep up with a Spartan II then imagine what they could theoretically be capable of. Not to mention combat speed. Their strength, combat speed enhanced with spartan augmentations would probably exceed that of Mjolnir armour, as in just punch straight through it lol. Imagine a tank from H3 with the speed of a combat form, evasion of a infector form and strength to one shot you. Real scary stuff...
@konahrikb1578
@konahrikb1578 10 месяцев назад
Why don't they just set the armor's reactor to self-destruct in the event of flood infection, like the Chief did to Grace-093 after she was killed by Brutes during Operation FIRST STRIKE? The resulting explosion destroyed the entrance of a power complex on the Unyielding Hierophant, and that was a Mark V suit, so Gen II's reactor overloading should instantly vaporize the wearer and any infected tissue immediately.
@CKATNISS
@CKATNISS 10 месяцев назад
This would seem to be the very first flex of practice of epsilon and corrupter
@sookendestroy1
@sookendestroy1 10 месяцев назад
Oh no, this sounds almost like an ONI plot to see the capabilities of flood infected Spartans against enemies. Theyve done similar before. Also if they wanted to keep the Spartan alive they could have pulsed the shield, we know Cortana did that and it worked
@MoonMorningstar
@MoonMorningstar 10 месяцев назад
Ahhh yes, I to remember when Humanity in Halo learned the tech of "MASS Accelerator Cannons"< take that, Mass Effect! xD
@jeanmouloude
@jeanmouloude 10 месяцев назад
im happy to be part of this channel for the past 5 years or so :)
@wisedude4285
@wisedude4285 10 месяцев назад
Ah yes the return of my favorite Halo RU-vidr
@bleachedshadow9981
@bleachedshadow9981 8 месяцев назад
A regular human marine infected by the Flood is enough to send chief flying if he gets a hit off. A Flood infected Spartan would be actual hell on Earth or any planet it’s on.
@phantoms205
@phantoms205 10 месяцев назад
At the end of halo 2 the gravemind said he would ask cortana questions what were those questions exactly
@odinulveson9101
@odinulveson9101 10 месяцев назад
I assumed it was the back area of hosts the flood POD infector preferred since the spine is closer and would explain it burrowed and apperared face-first through the chest. Also the infected spartan could have been infected NOT by a pod infection form but airborne spores caused by them infiltrating breaches, gaps and wounds in the armor and undersuit. Caused f.ex by combat forms infectious claw appendages in melee combat or the protection harmed by debri etc in thick floaty infectious spore pockets of infectious fog, mist pockets etc. Spores might infect and transform a bit slower than by a pod i.form but still. Interesting nontheless! And its canon so thsts great to hear 👏
@kiarvolfenberg8790
@kiarvolfenberg8790 10 месяцев назад
Hi. I've being thinking about the UNSC arcenal and came to One sollution: it's All utilises Electro-Ignition instead of modern-based trigger... As such: in "Halo: Nightfall" series (which is lore) there is a moment, where One of the ODST's says: "So what?! I'll turn it on to shoot ya, and turn it off immediately!" Refering to his MA5 rifle... That reference makes no sence for trigger-based weapons, but Absolutely "must have!" for electro-ignition... That also explains power source in Every UNSC weapon
@SoupRoutine
@SoupRoutine 10 месяцев назад
Would the suit's systems even be susceptible to the logic plague? Unless I'm mistaken, the suit doesnt have any smart AI technology natively in it (or dumb AI for that matter). Wouldnt the logic plague require an entity to understand that logic for it to work? I could be wrong, but thats how i understand it.
@bable6314
@bable6314 10 месяцев назад
Yes. The logic plague isn't a virus. It's just... logic. Carefully spoken facts that manipulate an artificial intelligence to perform acts against their own programming.
@admiralshadowofasunderedst3068
@admiralshadowofasunderedst3068 10 месяцев назад
It would we see the suit would attempt to cause the reactor to meltdown but it was stopped by the Flood WARNING: FSC SIGNATURE DETECTED ALERT ENERGY SHIELDS DEPLETED; ARMOR BREACH CONFIRMED SPARTAN COMPROMISED . . . FSC INFECTION CONFIRMED . COUNTERMEASURES INITIATED . . . . \HYDROSTATIC GEL LAYER PRESSURIZED . . . SUCCESS \GALLOWS DATALINK SEVERENCE . . . SUCCESS \BEGIN REACTOR DETONATION . . . FAILURE . . \CODE INJECTION DETECTED \COUNTERMEASURES CANCELED BECOME \ARMOR BREACH SEALED \ENERGY SHIELDS RECHARGED BECOME \ARMOR SYSTEMS REPAIRED UNITY. SWEETNESS.
@markaword1561
@markaword1561 10 месяцев назад
Spartan 117B reporting
@zackwerth77
@zackwerth77 10 месяцев назад
I’d like to point out that in halo 5, chief was able to move while his armor was locked by Cortana near the end. He’s only able to move his head and arm a bit but he’s able to overcome through his own strength.
@NorthSeaRaider
@NorthSeaRaider 7 месяцев назад
I think 343 would be stupid to not use this as a way to introduce the Flood into the main games.
@111Tommyg
@111Tommyg 10 месяцев назад
I'm not sure how I feel about Spartans being infected now being cannon, I can somewhat understand it slightly with the spartan 4's having less augmentation that previous iterations of spartan how ever I am still under the impression that Spartans are considered dead, degenerated or rotten with the augments they receive and so can't infect them, is this not the case anymore? also with that on top of the suits themselves being able to kill any infection forms or spores that try to infiltrate the suit. I don't know, I feel like this kind of just removes the nuance of the Spartans which they should retain. maybe I'm just still holding a candle to for the old lore.
@admiralshadowofasunderedst3068
@admiralshadowofasunderedst3068 10 месяцев назад
Nope this is a misconception what caused Johnson not to get infected was because the combat form was old and decided to go for the easier marine instead of Johnson. Spartans are capable of getting infected even master chief almost got infected the more genetic engineered forerunners were also capable of getting infected. Spartans being able to get infected has been a thing sense the bungie days.
@Lightman0359
@Lightman0359 10 месяцев назад
Real world answer: Corporate greed. If the armor enters meltdown, then they can't entice players back with Flood Spartan skins [and to sell said skins]. In universe answer: possibly also greed. By locking the armor and destroying the head [including not only the Spartan's knowledge, but the comms and other sensitive equipment in the helmet], they probably thought the infested spartan to be effectively neutralized, and thus... retrievable for study [and possibly salvage of the rest of the armor].
@BanishedSilentShadow3318
@BanishedSilentShadow3318 10 месяцев назад
[Warning: spartan has fallen to the flood!] Everyone: ............ ODSTs: nah. Ain't gonna deal with that! Marines: ..... where's chips when you need him.. Other spartans: oh god.. ONI: nuke. EVERYTHING!!
@Insanity6419
@Insanity6419 10 месяцев назад
Imagine a mini series where a 6 Spartan Flood containment team is on a mission to frigate of some kind and during the mission one of the Spartans get infected and we see from another Spartan’s POV as the infection form burrows into their teammate all you hear the shrieks a cries of immense pain, as the spartan armor begins to lock up due to the protocol, simultaneously all noise over the radio just goes silent and the spartan’s head drops down just as the armor locks up completely, nothing but silence as the rest of the team knew the micro explosives went off and they all stare for a second thinking they’re in the clear but then the head moves up and the flood mutations start and it’s just more horror like from then on in the series. I doubt any of the Spartan IVs have had any experience with the flood so they wouldn’t really know what to expect. They may be trained on what to expect but nothing could prepare them for the real deal. If done right I think it could make for a great mini series
@piccoloktheforged
@piccoloktheforged 10 месяцев назад
I just find it funny how when these got announced i asked does these skins mean that spartan 4s are susceptible to the flood and the spartan 4 stans got mad at me when you soon later say there is in universe lore of even spartans getting infected 😂
@Jorary209
@Jorary209 10 месяцев назад
Isnt there recent lore that 343 released from this seasonal update that gives a description of the mjolnir software enacting the safety protocols of the armor, but then was overcome by the logic plague very quickly? I dont remember if it was a post or one of the new flood armor/effects in customization that gave the description
@thewerdna
@thewerdna 10 месяцев назад
Yes. A detonation of the fusion core is supposed to happen, but the flood took control of the suit too fast
@codyblazejackson3077
@codyblazejackson3077 10 месяцев назад
I love your take on this. Keep em coming. Thank you for your hard work!
@X38277
@X38277 10 месяцев назад
They probably don't have better protocols because ONI wanted to see what would happen.
@Myjacob99
@Myjacob99 9 месяцев назад
I remember when spartans were just immune to the flood
@bmxdude1337
@bmxdude1337 9 месяцев назад
i member too
@Razgriz_01
@Razgriz_01 8 месяцев назад
That was just Johnson and he was a special case. He was also fighting weakened, starving Flood. He's not immune, just resistant and also got very lucky. In First Strike, they even make a point that they probably can't replicate what Johnson had that made him resistant or immune. Chief almost got infected, but was saved by Cortana.
@Redacted724
@Redacted724 7 месяцев назад
I want to see a short animation of what that would look like, the shield popping and the form latches on, blood and gore and metal being torn apart as the spartan struggles to pull the infection form out of his fresh chest cavity, him trying to fight back as his body twists and contorts and reforms, and then finally the infection reaching for the head as a light shines behind the visor, overloads, and then explodes sending brain matter and glass shooting out just as the infection takes control of what’s left inside the helmet and the jagged destroyed armor then slumping over before reanimating and letting out a horrible flood roar
@ghostreaper4822
@ghostreaper4822 8 месяцев назад
Essentially Cole Protocol. In that case, NAV data, AIs, and any information pertaining to Earth were to be scrubbed, whatever the means necessary. The Protocol itself simply doesn't state to self destruct a whole ship/station to do so. It gives a focused intent on what is to be accomplished, so even someone down to the lowest rank can achieve it by knowing the simplest task and condition. That's where it relates to suspending laws of war and rules of engagement and also having that explosion mechanism in place here. No matter what happens, that Spartan's mind must be destroyed.
@TheBrowniesOwn
@TheBrowniesOwn 9 месяцев назад
remember that the mjolnir armor is like a class 4 out of class 19 for powerarmor by forerunner standards, and in the flood war, they had millions of forerunners, presumably with power armor of the top tier.
@JUNIsLuke
@JUNIsLuke 10 месяцев назад
Honestly it seems 343 might have forgot about the nuclear reactor on their back lol😊
@RandemFellow
@RandemFellow 10 месяцев назад
Read the story. The infection form overrides the AI in the suit and assumes direct control to shut down the sekf destruction.
@dougsmith6262
@dougsmith6262 8 месяцев назад
Reminds me of what happened to Deathlok in the Marvel Zombies series. His cybernetic side detected the infection and pretty much self-destructed.
@ariannescharfi9366
@ariannescharfi9366 6 месяцев назад
I find it weird to begin with that the forerunners didn't get rid of the flood research faciilities shortly before the rings were activated so they can't be conserved in any way..
@AM-dc7pv
@AM-dc7pv 10 месяцев назад
I think the real question would be where are the flood infected Forerunner, Ancient Human, et al, Ecumene-era or legacy advanced combat armors running around? While after Mendicant Bias was defeated and with him so too the Flood, given the Flood surviving an all-out galactic level extinction event didn't wholly eradicate the Flood with many dispersed across the galactic expanse as well, one would imagine that given the sheer number of Forerunner, Ancient Humans and other previous species, atleast a few would've survived because of the probability. Also, are the Flood similar to Dragonball Z's villain Cell in which, like Cell the Flood only need to assimilate something once to retain that knowledge and possibly replicate it ad infinitum thereafter? [In which ever manner, whether that's with or without the Gravemind.] ...Or nah?
@g12gigaman
@g12gigaman 10 месяцев назад
What do you mean why didn't they implement core overload? upon flood infection Mjolnir systems go into a 3 stage process 1st immobilize 2nd destroy spartan cranial vault and neural lace 3rd detonate suit fusion pack the flood somehow interrupted stage 3 and off lined the armor lock it's in the season intel you overlooked it Edit halo waypoint halo infinite reckoning intel 1 gallows it shows detonation failure followed by suit systems being restored and altered
@Xornth
@Xornth 7 месяцев назад
Now just imagine how bad it was when the forerunner warriors were infected. Remember mjolnir is a hazmat suit to them.
@kegcodex
@kegcodex 10 месяцев назад
I think the main reason the flood could move through armour lock is because we unknowingly limit our strength so we don't hurt ourselves. And with the flood overriding your nervous system would probably override the limitations on our bodies.
@mattmc9812
@mattmc9812 10 месяцев назад
Experimental weapons of teh unsc. Weapons that are not standard like the ion field missile on the hannable mantis
@LR_Bushido
@LR_Bushido 7 месяцев назад
Am curious, wasn't it stated in the lore that a Spartans armor can be made to self destruct like a mini nuclear bomb? If so that should of been easily priority.
@orangecat504
@orangecat504 7 месяцев назад
The logic plague got to it before it could happen
@manishdyall4779
@manishdyall4779 10 месяцев назад
Imperium of Man: We will send in space marines, and if we can spare them, our highly specialised daemon hunting space marines, against chaos astartes. UEG: Pffft, Lax *commits exterminatus whenever a spartan is infected*
@tyvernoverlord5363
@tyvernoverlord5363 10 месяцев назад
Because the Imperium can shit out things like candy on christmas that'd make the flood shit itself and take stock as to how to go about devouring all life with the hivemind's thinking cap going brrrr. The Imperium doesn't hit the planetary or even star system delete button until it is very overwhelmingly and more than abundantly clear that they LOST. Humanity post '53 is still very much able to picked apart by the alien menaces of the 26th Century and be vulnerable to them in the Halo Franchise. Yeah, ofc the UEG/UNSC/CAA WOULD order apocalyptic scale weaponry to be used on just ONE flood infected spartan because of the overwhelmingly clear threat that it'd be. They put measures in place that not only failed, but this dunderheaded reject of human intelligence willingly and willfully under UCMJ criminal code: VIOLATED and COMPROMISED . . . All, for his cut of the payday . . . . . . . .
@tristanbackup2536
@tristanbackup2536 10 месяцев назад
On that other channel of breakdowns. I'm curious if you can do a serious breakdown & go into extreme detail of a T800 from Terminator. From the theoretical hyperalloy that it uses like tensile strength, the power source, & the neuromorphic processor it has, leave no stone unturned. 😂
@johnrushing1653
@johnrushing1653 5 месяцев назад
2:34 his neck insignia looks oddly familiar
@nickreed3924
@nickreed3924 10 месяцев назад
I'd be interested in a video that catalogs exactly how many spartans have been confirmed to have fought the flood.
@Napalmxxx2
@Napalmxxx2 7 месяцев назад
I know it wouldn't be a Spartan 2 or Orion Project (Spartan I's) since the nature of their augmentation regiments renders it impossible for the Flood to force a match like normal
@SomeGuy-sj1ly
@SomeGuy-sj1ly 3 месяца назад
That wouldve been a way cooler death for some of the spartans in reach, especially the one who got domed with a needler.
@sensufr219
@sensufr219 10 месяцев назад
I think it was Halo Envoy where at the end Gray team was paired up with a team that contained different species that would go through the known universe and find forerunner artifacts and Or covenant remnants to find and deal with it would be cool if this type of story used gray team
@michaelgemmill569
@michaelgemmill569 10 месяцев назад
I just assumed all the tendrils punctured the hydrostatic gell so it couldn't pressurize and lock up.
@GlacierCodfish
@GlacierCodfish 10 месяцев назад
Nice video. But at 2:40 you mention the question of this story being canon or not, but I don't recognize any details that confirm this canonically. Its a little abrupt to use Alex's odd wording as a proof to OFFICIALLY CONFIRM a spartan being infected in the Halo cannon. Yes, it is pretty well packed into the Halo story, but there is ofcourse still nothing here preventing this from being a fracture. Even the fact that this happened before Halo4 yet we hear nothing about it in later games or other lore, should be a pointer to this being a fracture or simply a simulated scenario used by the UNSC to train and test protocol. I think this is likely a fracture, but I also think 343 choose to not specifically confirm or deny this now, in order to be able to build on this story later if needed.
@dairydregone7146
@dairydregone7146 10 месяцев назад
Finally, u did the new Halo flood lore
@coleh7071
@coleh7071 10 месяцев назад
Yo Instalation00, I'd like to see another versus video. Master Cheif vs. Jorge. (As factual as the Cheif vs. N6 vid) please do this, it'll make my day.
@Nope-dk4sh
@Nope-dk4sh 10 месяцев назад
Thought: The Neural link implant connects directly to the suit, replacing the "Brain" requirement. Decapitation of a Spartan has no impact is because of this link, the flood form exploiting this and then supplanting any hardware restrictions or limitations by tapping into and eventually overriding the implant's need to be a bridge. Flood forms have shown they can influence tech (2401 Penitent Tangent?) so I don't see this as outside of their capabilities.
@SonLukifer-uy1yz
@SonLukifer-uy1yz 9 месяцев назад
Just as FF7 was about fighting and saving the planet; Halo is the quest to regain the universe and fight agains the ones who were to instill life.
@bmxdude1337
@bmxdude1337 9 месяцев назад
Idk seems like an oversight by the writers of 343i....or they are just making things up as they go, i wouldnt get too hyped
@tacobread3
@tacobread3 10 месяцев назад
Wait, NO! Go over the last part! Was the last part of the story the flood speaking through the Spartan or the MC!? Nooooo talk about that please 😭
@BallPlayer17127
@BallPlayer17127 10 месяцев назад
Doesn’t Spartan armor fail safe detonate the armor to prevent their armor to the enemy? Like what happened with grace , that alone should have been enough
@mattl9084
@mattl9084 10 месяцев назад
Masterchief was there to set and activate the detonation, maybe one of the other Spartans couldn't get to the other in time?
@BallPlayer17127
@BallPlayer17127 10 месяцев назад
@@mattl9084 the point im trying to make is that it should be a remote detention lol, it makes a lot pre sense then destroying the head
@515161
@515161 10 месяцев назад
I agree there's alot more that can be done with the Spartans reactor.
@abccomando9329
@abccomando9329 10 месяцев назад
Adeptus Astarte's deep brake down please if not here 00 multiverse?
@adamgardner3768
@adamgardner3768 10 месяцев назад
I just assumed the head explosives were incase they had an AI in their head
@thomasveerman4532
@thomasveerman4532 10 месяцев назад
Could you please also dive into how the flood came to be on the ship? Did they survive the firing of halo or did they escape later? They can't have been in there for 100k years, they would have starved.
@mattl9084
@mattl9084 10 месяцев назад
The flood on alpha halo were there for a little over 101,000 local years and didn't starve? Not out of pocket for them to survive that long. And the firing of the halo array doesn't kill the flood just the food itself
@boxfoxscoot1614
@boxfoxscoot1614 10 месяцев назад
another reason why to place the explosives in the helmet is so if it was hacked the spartan could remove the helmet
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