Far too many variables not isolated, different scenes used, no run averages, obvious outliers and other issues like capped frame rate in some of the games. I am not even sure you tried to make the memory timings the same as the kits linked have different timings which make a big difference to performance. Sorry to be negative but this test needs to be way more scientific to be valid as the differences should be waaaaay smaller between kits using the same speeds and same timings in the same benchmarks.
I do appreciate the criticism that there are certain variables with testing pending on how it's tested, certain games were capped to see more stability, and why I've tested multiple other games and this was based on just stock expo, this video was more for those interested in straight out of the box usage and not a deep dive on over clocking. Thank you for watching ✌️
Just picked some up off of newegg 32gb kit for 110$. Pairing with an Asus Strix B760 and a 13500.. Wanted my a750 to have room to breathe so moving from i5 9600k/16gb pcie3.. Crossing fingers it works out
Fun fact with the DDR5 Gskill ram, they don’t let you mix kits even when they are identical. Found out after a buddy bought two 16GB kits and his PC wouldn’t boot. So you no longer can buy ram kits today and upgrade later down the road with the Gskill Ram not sure about other MFCs but it’s on gskills page. Gskill - “Do not mix memory kits. Memory kits are sold in matched kits that are designed to run together as a set. Mixing memory kits will result in stability issues or system failure.” No one is talking about it but if the other mfc’s are the same way that needs to be a PSA. No matter though people should know this about GSkill.
It's common knowledge to not mix RAM kits. You can still add additional RAM and it will function normally. You're just not guaranteed stability while using XMP, but it's still possible. I bought a second kit later on for my current build and was able to get XMP stable. I even tightened the timings too.
problem with DDR5 is that manufacturers are making kits CPU Specific. they are selling kits as Intel XMP *OR* AMD XPO with identical primary timings. Retailers do not always list whether the kit is Intel or AMD specific (usually if it doesn't say then it is an Intel kit). the AMD XPO kits are generally more expensive than their Intel counterparts
Very late to the party but I'd just like to pitch in and say that this is not necessarily G.Skill's doing. 12th Gen Intel CPUs have had an awful time running 4-DIMMs with DDR5. As Buildzoid said: "It barely functions". So if your buddy was using the XMP profile on the 2-DIMMs, the system was likely to have tried to run it on all 4 and therefore, would not boot. Well known among the enthusiast community. Please back your comments up with technical evidence before suggesting we need a PSA. G.Skill's statement does NOT suggest they did anything to block it, it only implies that 4-DIMM DDR5 is much harder to run than 4-DIMM DDR4 at the moment.
@@ChrisMizo I think it is misinformed. DDR5 struggles on 4 DIMMs regardless, and the only 4-DIMM kits I have seen released for DDR5 are from Corsair, validated only for Intel 13th Gen CPUs!
You should use forza horizon 5 rainbow six siege, cyberpunk 2077 with built-in benchmark modes just to eliminate the variables and you certain you are going through the exact same scenes between the 2 ram sticks. I appreciate the video tho.
thanks for the suggestion, I've started doing built-in benchmarks more on the more up to date testing Cap_Sidekick, no problem thank you for speaking your mind 😁
My strix b650e-e brand new build was really unstable with g-skill 6000 expo ram. The same kit you’re holding. Was getting a C5 error code on my Mobo when I was updating the bios. I reseated the memory sticks with more force and so far no issues.
I’m about to build my first PC in 15 years. I think I am hopelessly outdated. 😔 I want the i5 13600k CPU but I am clueless about which motherboard (Z690 or Z790) or RAM (DDR4 OR DDR5) should I get. I want to play some recent games but I can’t break the bank 😅 Great video, mate. 👏🏽
thanks so much for watching and the great compliments! you'll save some money on z690 now since many manufacturers will be trying to offload them, z790 for full optimization of 13th gen power is also a great option, but if it were me I'd go z790 especially coming through an outdated system and will help future proof your PC 👌😁
I went Z790, 13700KF and ddr5 5200 CL40 RAM. The ram was cheap and I'm upgrading it later to 6000 CL30. 13600K should be fine as the 700K definitely feels overkill right now and they're not too far apart in performance. I'd probably recommend a second hand GPU in good condition if you can get one. I got a 3060 for 1080P gaming fkr £300. I'd say 4070ti or another similar performance card with 12GB VRAM minimum for 2K gaming and will run most games well in 4K. 4080 or 4090 for good 60fps 4K gaming in everything unfortunately lol ideally 16GB VRAM minimum. But it all depends on the games you want to play and any that might come out in the next few years. 2K is a nice sweet spot to not have to buy the top range components while not being painful compared to 4K, but the cards are limited to minimum of 3080 and 4070 to be able to play all games I'd say due to VRAM limitations on the 8GB cards, such as spiderman, diablo 4, hogwarts legacy and a few other recent or upcoming games.
I think you missed on the minimum frame rate there on cyberpunk. from 5-10 frame rate isn't a big deal when it's over 120, but minimum significantly impacts smoothness.
Am currently upgrading to a Gigabyte x670 Aorus Elite AX, Ryzen 5 7600x, Corsair Vengeance 64GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR5 6000 CL40… Here’s hoping I made the right choice selection as am still learning PC building.
How do you determine what will fit and work with an AMD? I'm building my own PC with a 7950X3D. What Corsair should I go with? I'm doing an all white build.
Hello. Help me understand my assembly : G.Skill DDR5 64GB (2x32GB) 6000G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB Silver CL32-38-38-96 1.40V (F5-6000J3238G32GX2-TZ5RS) . Will this memory go well with Asus tuf gaming z790-plus wifi / MSI RTX 4070 12GB SUPRIM X ; Intel Core i7 13700KF ?
gskill will work together well with your Asus tuf gaming motherboard and will also work well with your processor as this memory is built for Intel XMP, it's a good choice for sure.
Hi Chris got a question on the RAM. Got myself the DDR5 Corsair Vengeance RGB pro sticks but no where on the box days that is made for AMD (Just says intel imp). Will I find problems in pairing it with a Ryzen 7 7800x3d?
same and memtest give me errors at 6000Mhz but not at 5600Mhz so im returning mine and getting gskill also the corsair one is not on the mobo compatible list
@@rozhok8443 Huge lie, Corsair have stability issues, specially in AMD CPUs, the 1% lows are abysmal on Corsair, going so low as 10 fpss compared to G. Skill 80 fpss, more people should talk about G. Skill having more stability and better price over Corsair, not just, "I got higher fpss.", yeah, but they are all over the place dude, way to have an unsmooth experience.
I bought another 2x16 Gb Vengeance kit but couldn't run the 4 sticks at the same time. I gave up Corsair and will buy Trident Neo. I will buy 2x32 Trident kit. DDR5 is not suitable to run 4x16 Gb or 4x32 Gb yet.
which motherboard did you have? I've tested 4 DDR5 ram sticks which were corsair but haven't found them beneficial. let me know how the trident z works out for you!
Do you truly require 64GB of DDR5 RAM? In my opinion, 32GB is sufficient to run any game currently available and in the near future. The only reason to opt for more RAM is if you engage in a lot of 3D rendering. Otherwise, it seems like a waste of money. However, ultimately, the decision is yours to make with your own money.
Hi! I have the following components and I'm hoping to get an opinion on the others: ⚠️ ON HAND: • ASUS ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming Wi-Fi DDR5 • Intel Corei5 12400 LGA1700 • KINGSTON NVME 500GB • GIGABYTE 1TB SSD • Corsair CV750 Power Supply ⚠️ HELP ME CHOOSE! 📍For the RAM: “Corsair Vengeance 32GB 6000 MHZ DDR5” vs “G.Skill Trident 32GB 6000 MHZ DDR5”. Which one is better? 📍For the GPU: “Gigabyte RTX 3060ti Vision OC 8GB” and “Gigabyte RTX 4060ti AERO 8GB”? I’m going to use it mainly for work/office. I design, video editing, and database management. Thank you so much!
So I have a Pro-Art X670E-CREATOR WIFI with some G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (F5-6400J3239G16GX2-TZ5RK). I have not built the PC and was wondering if it worked or not?
The box says XMP ready, is it EXPO ready as well? I have this with a 7950x and a 3080 ti. I was going to do a 4000 series gpu till I heard about the power plug issue and decided against that. This is my first real gaming pc build. It is going to be an OP gaming rig. I'm super excited to get to build it. I've built a server about 20 yrs ago.
that's awesome! you are going to have a ton of fun building but to answer your question the memory won't be expo ready it'll work with xmp settings which could also be set in the bios 🤙
you don't have to disable expo if you have updated the firmware or don't have the issue where the soc voltage doesn't go above 1.3v, if you do have the issue still then you can disable expo mode.
In pictures/videos the GSkill looks more vibrant and saturated while the Corsair looks more milky and pastel. You said the Corsiar is brighter so maybe this is just an effect to the camera not being exposed well for how bright the LEDs are. Would you say that in person there is a difference in the quality of the LED, not necessarily the brightness. I am more concerned with color accuracy, saturation, contrast, and the number of leds for aRGB effects. I like a sharp look (more fiber optic) not super diffused as long as you cant see individual leds. I have a 2x32GB GSkill Trident Z Neo kit right now DDR5 6000 but kind of thinking about getting the Corsair 2x48GB kit as GSkill does not offer a DDR5 6000 kit for 96GB and the Corsair is on my motherboards approved list (even though its sold as Intel memory) there are 96GB kits from GSkill but they cost more , are not on my compatibility list and are only in speeds faster than DDR5 6000 and that is kind of a waste on AM5 where 6000 is the sweet spot and offers the best timings. There is some generational differences the old Trident was 4 LED but from what I can tell the new stuff is 8 LED while the Vengeance is 10 LED.
You’ll notice the Corsair LEDs are much more brighter as Gskill is much more dim, the color accuracy you would have to rely on the motherboard manufacturer such as ASUS or MSI in order to reach the color you would like to receive. I’d say a more fiber optic look would be Corsair’s as it’s much more contrasted and exposed compared to Gskill where it almost seems to attempt to mimic the color of your choice and is a bit dull. Hopefully this helped out!
@@ChrisMizo Ok thank you, I have both on order but the specs of the GSkill are better so I'll probably go with the specs more so than the looks. I actually have GSkill in my current computer the old 4 LED versions and they are pretty good for brightness as I like seeing it, but not blinding me :)
Hello, my 32GB = 64GB sticks in the database work at 4800, but when I turn on EXPO 1 or 2, the computer takes a long time to load at startup, about 1-2 minutes, please tell me how to fix it?! Ryzen 9 7950X3D Asus Rog Crosshair X670E G.Skill 64gb (Kit 32gb) Samsung 990Pro 1tb
What about the g skill cl30 6000 that comes with microcenter bundle. The Timmings look good but curious on your opinion. Going to be upgrading from 5900x. Also which x670 board you recommend
For AMD a 6000 CL30 is as good as it gets. Anything more, you will lose performance due to timings issues in the infinity fabric. Google the keywords for more info.
I know you said made for AMD, but will it work with Intel? I have Alienware r15 13900k rtx 4090 on order coming with 32 GB 5200 MHz XMP and I got the Corsair vengeance 64 gb 6000 mhz hopefully I can swap the ram out.
I picked up 32gb of t force delta ddr5 at 6400mhz I ended up picking up another 2 sticks of identical memory 1 year later and my computer is running like crap now it will not let me get over 4000mhz on my memory without crashing, I updated the BIOS and everything else, I am guessing its not really identical memory a year later, so I am trying to decide if I should get 4 sticks of new 16gb t force delta memory at 7200mhz or if I should get 4 sticks of 16gb corsair platinum dominator at 6200mhz 3rd IS 4 sticks of 24gb corsair vengeance 6400mhz, any suggestions? Id greatly appreciate any feedback on what will make my PC run like the 10k I spent on it during covid >.< I just want my computer to run smooth. I am using the Z690 ROG Strix Maximus Formula motherboard, intel 12900k CPU, MSI 3090ti SuprimX GPU with 7 TB of WD Black SN850x storage. Also cooling is not the issue, I have 2 radiators and 13 fans all pointing in the optimal position for max air flow.
thanks for the vid.... i looked and when it arrived at the 3d mark i saw your cpu score.... is SUPER LOW i mean .... 14708 Cpu score? is lower than my 5900x wich is over 15 000, why is that?
No problem! I agree, my CPU was much lower than expectations. Seemed to be a firmware issue with the motherboard as I did retest later on and received a much higher number. Thanks for noticing & watching!
I have both. The Corsair is better IF you want RGB control. The Corsair sticks have hardware lighting controls that does NOT require stupid RGB software. The G.Skill NEEDS the stupid software otherwise it'll default to rainbow. But the G. Skill looks cooler especially in white.
No, that's not true. Ever since DDR ran at 100 Mhz, they decided to start a marketing BS to report speeds in bytes (not 32 bit words) so suddenly it became DDR1-400. Then every generation they pump 2x the data back for every request in a 2x longer transaction and double the bullshit name. So DDR1-400 = DDR2-800 = DDR3-1600 = DDR4-3200 = DDR5-6400. All those speeds are PRECISELY IDENTICAL 100 MHZ X 4 BYTES! With DDR1 you got 4 bytes, then DDR2 = 8 bytes (2 clocks of 4 bytes each), then 16 bytes (4 clocks of 4 bytes each), then 32 bytes (8 clocks of 4 bytes each), now DDR5 = 64 bytes (16 clocks of 4 bytes each). All that is changing is that the cache line returned is 2x larger in back-to-back 4 byte bursts, which gives a 2x bigger marketing number, but not much of an improvement in processor performance since the 4-byte bursts are still roughly 10ns apart (100 Mhz), maybe a tiny bit less than 10ns at the highest performance DRAM. Each generation does NOT give faster memory, its to make the memory cheaper. So if you had DDR4-3200 you have to buy DDR5-6400 to have a prayer of a faster computer.
Greetings sir. Is it good to use DDR4 RAM with Intel Alder Lake? My purpose is to do 4K gaming, 1080p live streams, vector artwork, image editing and video editing. Recently I spent a week for sleepover in my friend's house. His PC is a very decent one with 32GB 3600MHz CL14. I tried all my works in his PC to know if the RAM is sufficient or not but the results are like most of the times 32GB of RAM was having a very little of headroom left. Windows task manager says it's being utilized upto 90%. When I game all launchers are open in background, discord is open so that I can VC or just post some epic moment or snapshots, OBS Studio and Clownfish voice changer needs to be open sometimes too. So, multitasking is a daily routine of me and during that 1 week, I learned that maybe 32GB is not so favorable for heavy multitasker like me. On top of that there's no 64GB, 128GB or 256GB kits in DDR5.
Hey Deathstriker, being a streamer either DDR4 or DDR5 will work well for you, DDR4 is still a excellent standard to use, 32GB shouldn't be a issue to use temporarily, I'd give it a shot a few more times with only your required software such as OBS, clownfish, Discord etc if you need more just go with 64 GB. The more RAM you have can also have a impact on your gameplay. Hopefully this helped Deathstriker!
DDR5 6000 36 36 36 is probably among the worst DDR5 you can buy. First, the 36 timings is a dead giveaway that it's Samsung memory. SkHynix M die is far superior. Second, Samsung DDR5 is fairly consistent a 5600 c36 kit uses the exact same memory chips, just buy that instead and increase the clocks to 6000. That is if you absolutely for whatever reason want to go with Samsung
I am in the market for some new ram and it came down to these two for me as well. I was just curious why you think Samsung is hot garbage? I have been reading so far that Samsung is better than Hynix.
@@cutipustotallus307 On DDR4, sure I'd get Samsung b die over everything else. But for DDR5 - Not so much. SkHynix A die is by far the best chips you can buy due to their insane speed potential, you can do like 8000cas38 without going crazy on the voltage. SkHynix M die comes in second, obviously not as fast as A die, but significantly cheaper, still a good option nonetheless. I'd stay away from Samsung due to their very odd behavior when selecting your timings. Stability can be a major issue with those chips.
@@sanderheide6102 thank you for explaining that! So I do already have a Corsair vengeance DDR5 5600 CL36 on my system and everything is stable . But I saw the GSKILL for 10 dollars more for the ddr5 6000 cl 36! Do you think it's worth the hassle to return the Corsair and get the GSKILL trident Zfor the enhanced speed and RGB? While RGB is not a priority, I did read that the Trident will be a better choice than a vengeance.? I will be overclocking but not to any extreme.
@@cutipustotallus307 Are they both flat 36'es (36-36-36-36) on the primary timings? If yes, definitely don't upgrade. They both use the same Samsung chips, you should be able to set your current Corsair kit to 6000cas36 without any issues.
@@sanderheide6102 my current Corsair vengeance is 36-36-36-76 on the package. On CPU ID, Its 36 40 42 36 and says Samsung as the manufacturer. The GSkill Trident is 36-36-36-96
The rams of G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR5 6000MHZ cl 32 maybe made by Samsung and less performance than Corsair rams that made by SK Hynix which its better in performance ...G.SKill trident z rgb 6400mhz cl 32 ddr5 (16×2) made by SK Hynix
@@ChrisMizo it's my own take.. you do you - in the end I watched the full video.. I may have only complained about it because I got used to watching short formats
What a time to be an enthusiast on a budget. AMD Ryzen 9 7900X Factory new New (EBay) $350 ZOTAC Gaming GeForce RTX 3080 Trinity OC LHR 10GB Used (Ebay) $300 ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 $125 G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO (AMD Expo) 2 x 16GB DDR5 6000 CL30-38-38-96 $125 Apevia ATX-GX850W Galaxy 850W 80+ Gold $70 SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD 1TB $60 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE CPU Air Cooler $34 ________________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap Sturdy Gaming/Workstation $1100
I think the cpu is too much. If you want your pc for both gaming and productivity, you could just went with 13600k and you would be absolutely fine. You could also get a 6900xt used card for the same price and so much better performance
