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Pop OS 22 and the New pre alpha preview of Cosmic Desktop!
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0:00 - Intro
0:11 - Install Pop OS 22
2:03 - Desktop Start
3:40 - Tiling Windows
4:22 - Pop Shop
5:14 - Weird bug?
5:40 - Summary Pop OS 22
6:12 - Installing Cosmic Desktop pre alpha

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25 июн 2024

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@thunpin 11 дней назад

It's a good alternative for people who enjoy tiling but prefer DE instead of window managers.

@Anathrax 11 дней назад

this

@applecastaway4256 5 дней назад

Exactly me

@GregDowns 11 дней назад

Just want to say I appreciate this style of video overview of 'a thing'. Far too many Cosmic and Pop and general Linux vids treat the viewer as if they're an accidental arrival who has to be told what Cosmic and Pop and Linux are from scratch, before we get a look at everything.

@grofffamilyprojects 5 дней назад

I use pop os for all af my RU-vid videos!! Very easy system to use!!

@raphrac1436 10 дней назад

I tried to install pop os but the custom install to avoid deleting everything in my laptop was pretty too long. Did I do something wrong ?

@daddoesdigital 10 дней назад

It would take longer, did it finish eventually? or did you exit?

@raphrac1436 9 дней назад

@@daddoesdigital I exited because the 3 partitions was kind of confusing

@9SMTM6 10 дней назад

I'm using PopOS (stable) on my desktop PC. That said I mostly do stuff on my EndavourOS (arch but easy to install) Laptop with KDE. I do really look forward to Cosmic DE. Both as someone that likes what he's heard in terms of ideas and as a Rust fan boy. I don't feel like switching to a window manager, but I like tiling. DEs are more complete from the get go and have consistent defaults. I can always change them if I want to. I've got to say, installing PopOS was a recent thing, and the stable release of it is missing a BUNCH of fairly young software (eg helix, zellij) that's at this point pretty baked into my workflow. I had to install homebrew and get it from that source. I do hope to cut down on that when the new release drops, with it not being based on an ancient OS base (package availability aside PopOS did an excellent job keeping other stuff like the kernel up to date, so that's fine).

@daddoesdigital 10 дней назад

Ohh I was looking into EndavourOS . Any good ?

@9SMTM6 10 дней назад

@@daddoesdigital I mean, it's pretty basic if you break it down. It's simply Arch, but as an complete ISO with choices I usually approve of. It comes with software that should not really be missing by default, such as a firewall (firewalld with a UI), and it allows you to install setups that would be otherwise difficult, such as encrypted BTRFS. If you want to do that on base Arch you've got to stick together a bunch of different tutorials that might be outdated. It has its share of issues, but most come from Arch of course. For endavour specifically, at times they take longer than they probably should with updating their ISO, but since it's Arch anyways, as long as you're able to update (never did not work out for me) it's fine. Before Endavour I had Manjaro, which was fine (TBH I don't think it deserves its bad reputation among some people) but it actually does make some modifications difficult. The repositories lag behind Arch, occasionally breaking AUR packages, and they do package some things differently, such as having a base system package, that last I checked depended on grub, so you could not go to systemd boot without having grub alongside. Arch is sometimes bleeding edge, but honestly on the whole - in fairness as a developer that may mess with some things - it's been a more stable experience for me than every other distro (I've tried fedora KDE extensively - mostly problematic because of their handling of anything proprietary -, but also opensuse - actually crashed fairly often - and Ubuntu - tried installing that on my grandma's laptop, ended with no network because of the old Kernel, decided against ever using an OS with an old Kernel again. PopOS has been decent and I'm satisfied with my choice for that usecase, but for my main system I'll stick with Endavour for the foreseeable future.

@daddoesdigital 7 дней назад

I use Fedora for work and need to stick to that given the hours put into getting it just right. I have a second laptop however, which I use to cycle through distros. I feel like I would need to spend more time on any Arch based distro to get a good feel it. I'll probably go with Manjaro or Endarvour

@theKDvault 10 дней назад

You echoed so many of my initial impressions of PopOS! It was my first distro. Same with tiling managers, I just never found it useful. I wonder if this easy integration may win me over.

@daddoesdigital 10 дней назад

Great to hear! The tiling was definitely the best feature of V22 for me.

@FilSapia 11 дней назад

I’m excited for Cosmic; but IMO good integration and consistent theming with Qt and GTK will make or break the experience. It would be very jarring to have the native apps use one theme and 99% of all other Linux apps use a different theme. They have to put the work in ensuring the theming engine covers these two popular GUI toolkits.

@DRIVING_ME_CRAZY 10 дней назад

I hope we'll be able to put the window buttons in the top bar, without that annoying padding between the window buttons and the edge of the screen. It's annoying on Gnome when the top bar is hidden, and you still can't close maximized windows by slinging the pointer into the corner and clicking, because you just passed up the close button and have to readjust the pointer to click the close button.

@mmstick 9 дней назад

Super+Q

@DRIVING_ME_CRAZY 9 дней назад

@@mmstick For window buttons?

@daddoesdigital 9 дней назад

I actually never noticed this until you mentioned it. Now I can't unsee it!

@DRIVING_ME_CRAZY 9 дней назад

@@daddoesdigital Yep! It's a huge usability issue, for me.

@stephencullum8255 5 дней назад

Going to buy a System76 computer and try Pop-OS. As long as it is well documented and easy to search the documentation I should do ok with it. Returning to Linux after several years running Windows !0 . Not a fan of Windows intrusive ways and limited options of how you run your operating system. To continue to use Windows I would have to buy a new computer to run Windows 11. If I am going to do that I want it to be one built for Linux. Yes I can change operating systems on my old Dell and will giving it to one of my daughter.

@daddoesdigital 5 дней назад

Enjoy!

@eijentwun5509 7 дней назад

I am SUPER Glad this is not GNOME or KDE...but I do not get what is so cool about this? it looks super dated to me.

@daddoesdigital 7 дней назад

To each his own. I do get excited about UI than most people

@mmstick 6 дней назад

GNOME doesn't allow you to configure the desktop layout, so you have to rely on extensions providing a limited form of configuration. GNOME has limited theming capabilities exposed to the end user. COSMIC has the equivalent of Gradient built in. GNOME doesn't have auto-tiling, and even the pop-shell extension is drastically inferior to the current state of auto-tiling in COSMIC. GTK4's font renderer is much blurrier than COSMIC's font renderer. It's also slower to draw than libcosmic. libcosmic is a much easier GUI toolkit to work with compared to GTK and Qt/QML. Multi-monitor performance is greatly improved, with a dedicated thread per display output. Performance overall is much better. Multithreaded compositor written in Rust with no JavaScript anywhere. 10-bit color outputs are supported, and HDR will be following soon. VR headsets are supported in COSMIC, but not in GNOME. The header bar has a configurable density, and the application styling will have configurable density post-alpha. COSMIC already supports a number of Wayland protocols that GNOME has yet to implement, and may never implement. Security-wise, GNOME is soundly defeated. COSMIC is the first to use the security context protocol for its applet architecture. Stability is greatly improved compared to KDE Plasma and GNOME. Turns out, using Rust and avoiding C/C++/JavaScript means no runtime type and memory errors. If an applet crashes, the system will respawn it. Whereas in GNOME, an extension that breaks crashes to the login screen. Makes development easier. You can try out the cosmic-store and compare to KDE Discover and GNOME Software for a taste of our toolkit's performance.