Cosmic Queries - Cosmological Curiosities with Neil deGrasse Tyson

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What is nothing? Does nothing exist? Neil deGrasse Tyson and comedian Chuck Nice explore cosmological curiosities about the end of the universe, dark matter, and more!
What happens in an expanding universe where galaxies get too far away from each other? Is there a way to survive a Big Rip? If matter only takes up 5 percent of the universe, are we the anomaly? We discuss the Copernican principle and whether we are special. Could we be in a cycling universe that expands and collapses or is expansion just a one way trip?
Does dark matter interact with anything beside gravity? Could it be possible for humans to create a black hole in order to study it? How big would an Earth-mass black hole be? Why do galaxies in the universe form a sponge structure when everything else creates disks? Learn about the Coma Cluster and how it helped us discover dark matter.
What would someone looking at us from 65 million light years see? What is nothing? We discuss the definition of nothing and whether we can wrap our heads around the concept. And finally, we explore The Matrix and whether our robot overlords could use humans as energy.
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00:00 - Introduction
0:50 - If Expansion Beats Gravity…
6:19 - If Most of the Universe is Dark Energy & Dark Matter, Are We the Anomaly?
11:00 - Could the Universe Implode and Form Another Universe?
14:45 - Gravity Interacting with Dark Matter
18:58 - More Big Rip
21:53 - Could We Make a Black Hole in Order to Study It?
24:37 - The Fascinating Structure of Galaxy Clusters
28:37 - Is it Possible to See Our Past by Looking into Deep Space?
31:17 - What is Nothing?
37:27 - Could AI Use Humans for Fuel Like in The Matrix?

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@StarTalk 9 месяцев назад

Would you want to be around to see the end of the universe?

@vesawuoristo4162 9 месяцев назад

Yes

@LuckmoreMusara 9 месяцев назад

Mmmm

@jurisbogdanovs1 9 месяцев назад

No! Even if this claim was true and such moment would take place in unforeseeable future, it still would be way too far from us even to think about it. And I find it funny that you, Dr Tyson, only take questions from patreon. Basically, "show me the money" comes before curiousity and science. I would be happy to pay for each question separately, if I trusted you (or any science populizer foe that matter) would genuinely address them. But I know what would happen instead. I would ask a question about the problems with, let's say, Vacuum, and I would explain what exactly are the problems with facts, and you would simply reject aļl of that as delusion or misinformation and with simple declarations about how science looks at Vacuum today would finish the answer. So, I would have spent my money and have nothing. In a way, I would feel that the money was stolen from me as I already know the official answers of science. So, if there is no open discussion with challanges, and I have to pay to hear what I can read for free in any science book, then what is the point of all of this...

@jurisbogdanovs1 9 месяцев назад

I would like you, Neil, to think about possibility that one day all those arguments and facts I keep bringing up might become the accepted theories. And science educators and scientists would be asked, why they didn't see and address those problems and solutions that were in front of our eyes? And then many scientists would realise that they have been bombarded with these questions for years but they ignored them because the person who asked them didn't pay for the answer... And, unfortunately, I even sent you some of my books, Neil!!! Yet, you remain ignorant to that. And problems with Redshift are explained in that book of mine too - WHERE DOES THE UNIVERSE AND LIFE COME FROM.

@PronatorTendon 9 месяцев назад

No, I have difficulty maintaining interest hin hobbies for less than half a century, let alone a googol years

@sarairicechannel 9 месяцев назад

Recently applied to go back to school at age 29 for astronomy & physics- all because of you 🎉

@Dweeb212 9 месяцев назад

I'm sure its appreciated but I'm sure you had a lot to do with such a great move toward your goals as well : )

@sarairicechannel 9 месяцев назад

@@Dweeb212 Yes, I found my desire for more again. Thank you 😌

@lemongavine 9 месяцев назад

Congrats!!!!

@mihirvora2010 9 месяцев назад

Neil & Chuck: The Classic StarTalk Duo. There can be nothing better!

@MoahGentle Месяц назад

Agree however some pods/vids with guests are amazing too!

@Matt.Thompson.1976 9 месяцев назад

Continued thanks to Neil, Chuck and the Star Talk team. A new video is always a highlight of my day! Thank you for doing this amazing program. I love to learn and laugh with my personal astrophysicist, Lord Nice, and friends. I Promise to always look up. Love and respect from California.

@StarTalk 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for your kind support!!

@bdr420i 9 месяцев назад

My best day is after finishing my shift is watching Dr. NDT and Chuck Nice 🎉 thank you 🙏🏼 you're the best

@ARealPerson21 9 месяцев назад

There’s nothing like a new StarTalk to stimulate the mind the tell me all the interesting facts I never thought about but always wanted to know

@tomking2613 9 месяцев назад

i couldn't agree more

@user-xv9tj3dl2o 9 месяцев назад

Chuck is a comedic genius. (studies show that those who get dark humor have analytical and enquiring minds!😁) and I always love the cosmic queries editions. May Startalk continue to have an illustrious and enduring existence. thank you for all you do to inform in the guise of entertainment.

@williamoverton7775 9 месяцев назад

I'd love to see the MC live at the planetarium. I hear some of those shows are great.

@alexpascal5403 9 месяцев назад

You must be one of those guys that went to college and now think savant writing and eloquent pennmanshit trumps (2024) simple writing mechanics. Keep it simple, Larry.

@Melancholy_Chill 9 месяцев назад

In other words, those who expirienced in dark humor are more likely to understand dark matter

@eNigma011 9 месяцев назад

@@Melancholy_Chill And remember Dark Humor Matters!

@paulvamos7319 5 месяцев назад

If you like dark humor, check out Christopher Titus! 😂 He's like George Carlin but, fresher! Happy holidays! 🎉🎆🍻🎇🎊😎✌️🖖🤘🤟

@dianacanales2526 9 месяцев назад

You two are the perfect blend of science + Love of learning! The person who said you "...luxuriate" too much is missing the point of the chemistry that makes this show such a huge success & why you have 2.4 Million subscribers & get thousands of views from appreciative fans every show -- We Love that you "luxuriate" with humor & conversation that effortlessly flows and makes learning from Dr. Tyson & Lord Nice so much FUN!!! Thanks & Love you Both!

@Living1980s 9 месяцев назад

Welcome Back Lord Chuck ❤❤❤

@tomking2613 9 месяцев назад

May the Chuck be with us.

@29DPT 8 дней назад

they are in cer, Geneva, Switzerland, aka, “God particle”, black hole, Simpson did a show on thinks

@criz6825 9 месяцев назад

Long time listener/viewer, please give us more of these. My favorite Cosmic Queries!. Especially with just Neil n Chuck.

@HeUaKeia 9 месяцев назад

I absolutely love this podcast. It makes my day every time I listen. I always learn something new or start thinking about things in a new way.

@dimitri1515 9 месяцев назад

I would love to see you two do a show on cosmetology.

@eNigma011 9 месяцев назад

Don't you mean cosmology?

@simplyrowen 9 месяцев назад

@@eNigma011He’s making a joke on what they said in the video opener. Neil joked about cosmetology, and indeed, it would be hilarious to witness 😂

@FlushGorgon 9 месяцев назад

And one on comicology, with Chuck as the expert answering the questions.

@dimitri1515 9 месяцев назад

@@simplyrowen Yes, and since they talk about all kids of topics, seriously, I'd love a 5-10 minute talk on cosmetology.

@YungJay0 9 месяцев назад

I love that RU-vid does the autoplay thing. Now, I don't even need to click on the video to see if Chuck is on the episode. If Chuck ain't there I keep scrolling

@el.blanco8961 9 месяцев назад

I'm excited for the next-generation cosmic queries we are going to have, we've had a lot of technical breakthroughs advancements of technologies the bring up the discoveries and also bring up more questions to a way deeper understanding of the universe that we know now.

@grrmtthgrrmtth3000 9 месяцев назад

You are my personal astrophysicist. ❤ you're awesome I have all your books. Also 1st

@Sorrel555 15 дней назад

I never seen Chuck do stand up, but he is so naturally funny in conversation. Really glad he’s on the show!

@Shanngab 9 месяцев назад

Just discovered this. Super enjoyed it! Thanks for making it fun

@robertkaminski9315 9 месяцев назад

i LOVE your Show , NEIL. You're awesome Chuck. PLEASE KEEP THE EDUCATION COMING, me and my kids LOVE SCIENCE & LOVE LEARNING from STARTALK....

@kellymcdaniel6272 9 месяцев назад

Man do I love the friend chemistry💜It makes the wonderfully rich science that much better!

@PinheadFTW 9 месяцев назад

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1440">24:00</a>, the reactions of Chuck is literally me everytime I learn something new about space... and Neil explains it perfectly.

@glowchet 9 месяцев назад

Please keep sharing these videos. In a world of chaos and fabricated nonsense, I come to videos from you both to neutralize and mindfully control my social intake . Thank you!!!! I appreciate all the science and the humor !!!!

@tiago.alegria.315 9 месяцев назад

Indeed

@joeleon5786 9 месяцев назад

Absolutely

@TooshanSrivastava 9 месяцев назад

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="626">10:26</a> - <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="655">10:55</a>...thank you so much Dr T and Lord Nice; gonna implement this in my work!! 🤩

@michaelccopelandsr7120 9 месяцев назад

Neil and Chuck for 2024!

@topspacesource 9 месяцев назад

To imagine the Universe was always here, is just mind blowing...and we can never comprehend that. The marshmallow comment made me want to watch Ghostbusters from the 80s.

@rumham7466 9 месяцев назад

And infinite space. It’s so interesting. And frightening. What is out there? What are we in? When you truly think about it it’s wild.

@ToneX-hj6ki 9 месяцев назад

Thank you Chuck for giving Neil balance.

@sheldorleconcher8870 9 месяцев назад

Very informative, very funny. Thanks, guys!

@mariakasstan 9 месяцев назад

Some excellent humor today. Thank you for making me laugh when I really need it.

@LightDiodeNeal 7 месяцев назад

*10 stars*, ridiculously entertaining. I want these on DVD to watch if I do get stuck on a ship to Mars.! 🙂 One great duo!

@718Insomniac 9 месяцев назад

Lord Nice casually dropping fact bombs. Love it.

@therivernile. 9 месяцев назад

Not an explainer, but chuck is back :)

@LouAtlanta 9 месяцев назад

This is awesome. We are living at the best time. We can still see loads out there.

@jasonknowledge8824 9 месяцев назад

I love Neil so much! I'd love to just sit down an have the most mind bending conversation. But I think that he would love equally love that conversation too! Just a suspicion.

@davidtarvin8858 9 месяцев назад

I don't know why I watch this damn show. It only stirs up my death anxiety. Probably because Chuck is so damn funny. Neil, you're alright too.

@kevinbennett532 9 месяцев назад

I for one cant wait for the sweet bliss of the heat death of the universe.

@davidtarvin8858 9 месяцев назад

@@kevinbennett532 I'm stocking up on coats.

@simplyrowen 9 месяцев назад

I need you guys to do a segment where you review movies and cover the science in them. Because every time I watch one of those movies, I always have questions. For instance, I just watched Moonfall. That went sideways pretty quickly, but I’m still curious about some aspects that appear feasible.

@ravishankarthakur7189 9 месяцев назад

I appreciate your suggestion. But there are lots of movies review channel but nobody can decipher like the OG's, So I would love to watch the review and explaining the mystery behind movie like "Moonfall" (I really love that movie there concept cinematography etc) Love from India

@simplyrowen 9 месяцев назад

@@ravishankarthakur7189 Yeah, those are traditional movie review channels though; and that’s definitely NOT what I mean. I haven’t seen a dedicated channel to reviewing the accuracy of science in film. Wired (and some others) does bring in experts (lawyers, forensic experts, doctors, historians, astrophysicists, etc.) to dissect the accuracy portrayed on screen 👈🏼 I’d love for StarTalk to just make this into a permanent segment in regards to science (or even other fields like Wired does it and bring experts). Because I always walk away with questions, and I want to learn what’s accurate. Thanks for the comment. Greetings from Miami 👋🏼

@Howwerelivingfishing Месяц назад

Love that idea

@lymanmj 9 месяцев назад

I need a Startalk on addiction. I'm addicted to these videos 💙

@Flying_Blind 9 месяцев назад

That went right over Dr. Tyson's head when Lord Knight said "I get ripped every day." around <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="340">5:40</a> or a little before.

@souverain1er 9 месяцев назад

Chuck is hilarious. Combover galaxy😂

@andypeiffer5 9 месяцев назад

Good to know Neil still has an office

@charlestredway8253 8 месяцев назад

Chuck ! You are awesomely funny and healthy for the show! Thanks for your humor!

@johntumpkin3924 9 месяцев назад

This is an intriguing and thought-provoking discussion, with helpful consideration of alternative proposals and theories.

@JaworekPlay 9 месяцев назад

Hi Dr. Tyson and Lord Chuck 🙂Absolutely love the show! I have a silly question 😅 what would happen to black holes when big rip would get to them? Since singularity is an infinite mass in space how would that rip divide infinity? Would they maybe create an anchor, slowing down expansion in that region? Or would they just explode as the sheer force dark energy would overcome infinite density? Thank you

@tyroneallen7857 9 месяцев назад

Your question is imaginary because you said space. Science rebukes imagination. Read more nonfiction. For example, time equals energy and energy equals mass times the speed of light squared, no space. Space is science-fiction based on human imagination. Neil deGrasse Tyson is a pseudo scientist. The most perfect example of how time works is the sun. we are our star. For example, the sun is day. How old are you?

@dmd7472 9 месяцев назад

I’m such a child. I laughed every time he said ripped. 😂

@Druidofthemarsh 5 месяцев назад

Omg the take on kids and learning and ambitions! YESSS!!!!!

@shakesrear7850 9 месяцев назад

Loved the black hole explanation.

@CrashingThunder 9 месяцев назад

Regarding the Matrix, the whole "humans = batteries" plot could have been made so much better if humans were used as the computational aspect of the matrix, at least in part. It would mean Neo is able to change "reality" by altering the computation in real time...because he's hooked up to the matrix and it's using his brain (among everyone else's) to run the simulation. It gives an actual functional reason as to why he's able to do what he does.

@TheNickjhaight 9 месяцев назад

I believe - but I'm not positive - that that was the original story but, from what I've been told, the writer (or studio or whatever) didn't think audiences would be able to grasp human beings being used for computational power rather than electrical power.

@anthonyhyde3357 9 месяцев назад

So does gravity have just an exponential decay period and decays into dark energy?

@leaf_xcvi 3 месяца назад

interesting question...

@deekay2497 9 месяцев назад

Still Marking that date on the calendar. All heil the court of knowledge! Thanks again for answering my question! :D

@brianjones6500 9 месяцев назад

Gotta love the plum analogy as it relates to the earth and a basement black hole project, then a follow-up by Neil exclaiming how the Universe is under no obligation to make sense to you. [Cajun "Kee-Yaa"] moment of laughter!

@jupok2377 9 месяцев назад

❤ STAR 🌟 TALK always 😂😊 🌌🛰🚀🛸🌞🌛🪐 Neil & Chuck

@Mr12Relic 3 месяца назад

For The Matrix, the original plot was that the computers are piggybacking off of the processing power of the human brain, but at the time they thought the audience would be confused so the writers changed it to batteries.

@bimgorling2036 7 месяцев назад

Neil's laughter is candy to my soul! 🤩

@gloatinglizard1 9 месяцев назад

I had an astronomy book as a child in the late 80's early 90's, and I remember with a fair amount of clarity the presentation of both an ever expanding universe and what they called the Big Bang and Big Crunch cycle.

@dclomg5 3 месяца назад

Ok. The creators of The Matrix knew this. The originated script was to use the humans for computing power. The studio and producers thought people wouldn't understand it, so they made them change it to batteries. So, it was not a mistake by the creators.

@TheAngryIntellect- 9 месяцев назад

I want to know what kind of energy takes up 95% of Neil... Does it come in pill form? 🤔

@Graycy808 9 месяцев назад

trust me, you wouldnt be able to get a prescription for it from any doctor !! LOL

@Ajaykrishna97_ 9 месяцев назад

Video clarity is great today

@Stisse12 6 месяцев назад

Love this Guy explaining stuff, it’s so interesting and funny at the same time

@danielmartin5440 9 месяцев назад

If I'm not mistaken, I believe the latest thinking on dark matter is that it might actually weakly interact with itself. Weakly enough that it could have formed "dark stars" in the early universe that accounts for what appear to be galaxies before galaxies should have formed but not strongly enough to clump together in the less dense conditions of the universe today.

@shawnsnow1882 9 месяцев назад

It was that Eastern European fella Antov(?) I heard that from as welll

@solartyrant9049 9 месяцев назад

I wonder, if dark matter particles are attracted to each other gravitationally but instead of colliding they pass through and just keep bouncing back and forth towards a gravitational center if that would create some sort of gravitational resonance that would be detectable with LIGO or maybe a more sensitive gravitational wave instrument like the one planned for space

@ShadoeHaze 9 месяцев назад

Chuck's French impression is FIRE! LOL

@johnherron3961 9 месяцев назад

Excellent one Guys!!! TY.

@markl3893 9 месяцев назад

Hey Neil! I was in the "accelerated" class in school. In 2nd grade a Cuban woman came in and taught us basic Spanish and in 3rd grade a Spanish woman taught us formal Castilian Spanish. Sixth grade is a little late to get started in languages.

@BrendansMomFitnessOfficial 9 месяцев назад

I wonder if we will ever learn more about dark energy. It constantly goes further and further out of our reach. The mysterious key to life.

@tyroneallen7857 9 месяцев назад

What pseudo scientist called dark energy is time. The theory of everything is time. Time is everything and everything is time. For example time equals energy and energy equals mass times the speed of light squared, no space. Space is science fiction based on human imagination. Read more non-fiction. This video is pseudoscience. For example Neil deGrasse Tyson promotes space. Read more non-fiction. For example, we are our star. The sun is day. How old are you?

@KeyElement-bl4tu 5 месяцев назад

#Brainfood

@rheffner3 7 месяцев назад

You two are the best. Very enjoyable.

@loranelizabeth9148 5 месяцев назад

You guys are always a real treat! Thanks!~~~

@ronhutcherson9845 9 месяцев назад

I remember in The Matrix they added the phrase, “combined with some kind of fusion.” So, the heat from people plus some magical fusion powered the machines.

@Maeely 9 месяцев назад

From what I heard, the whole story is that the original script said that the matrix used human brains for their processing power as microchips. But the execs vetoed that saying that the public wouldnt understant it... It made no sense physically so the W tried their best by adding that line. Worst : it didn't make ANY sense storywise. The whole point of the Matrix is to be a product of the human mind with its imagination, dreams and delusions...

@edsc86 9 месяцев назад

The original story had the machines use the humans brain for computing power not as batteries, but the idea got scrapped as someone decided it would be to difficult for the regular viewers to understand, plus we wouldn't have the cool scene were Morpheus holds a battery!

@KeyElement-bl4tu 5 месяцев назад

That's funny,

@ronhutcherson9845 5 месяцев назад

@@edsc86 That’s like in The Fall of Hyperion by Dan Simmons. It was really creepy how they used human brains for their own processing.

@Ariel_Waters 9 месяцев назад

A Futurama episode covered the battery issue with the Matrix. Even though the show used the "humans as batteries" idea, they admitted people make *terrible* batteries. 😂

@KeyElement-bl4tu 5 месяцев назад

Classic..

@michellemarie3806 9 месяцев назад

Love chuck! You both are awesome

@shaunr4953 5 месяцев назад

they deserve a movie

@carlossoares712 9 месяцев назад

I like dark gravity term much more than dark matter, it is way more precise

@anthonyhyde3357 9 месяцев назад

If space really is a fabric, wouldn't there be ripples that hit us first if the rip occurred on the other side of the universe?

@Ali-Maher812 9 месяцев назад

Good Point..🤔

@ZacharykyleNecan-eq5cq 9 месяцев назад

The idea of the rip is everything becomes so small it co-resides within the next iteration of expansion meaning what we’re detecting as dark matter is the remnant of the previous universal expansion implying if it has ripped we are accelerating into the places where it needs to be filled causing the cycle of entropic annihilation

@blueeyeadonishawke2020 9 месяцев назад

I love these two, and this was a great episode, but Chuck needs to turn up his mic. The sound was off

@Sahil___ 9 месяцев назад

The satisfaction on Sir Tyson's face after hearing "we gotta be eating" is reliving.

@atchthenoble8389 9 месяцев назад

And theeeennnnn......

@TheNewsDepot 9 месяцев назад

Is it possible that Dark Matter is gravity being bled over from other universes in a multiverse? That would explain why there is so much of it, why it doesn't interact other than through gravity (as gravity can bled through higher dimensions) and why it doesn't interact with other bits of Dark Matter.

@tyroneallen7857 9 месяцев назад

Dark matter is time. The theory of everything is time. Time is everything and everything is time. For example, time equals energy and energy equals mass times the speed of light squared, no space. Space is human imagination. Science fiction. Read more non-fiction. For example, we are our star. The sun is day. How old are you?

@tyroneallen7857 9 месяцев назад

The multi-verse is not a hypothesis. The multi-verse is human imagination. Multi-verse is an oxymoron. The universe is one. Time is the fabric of the universe. Time is one. Read more non-fiction. For example, we are our star.

@michaelnichols5023 9 месяцев назад

Love this show.

@Synathidy 9 месяцев назад

Long live Lord Chuck. Cosmic Queries... favorite type of episode. Nothing is better in science than posing fascinating question after question about things we don't yet understand. It stimulates the imagination. Gets you thinking about what's possible. My favorite question to ponder now is the question of whether our universe is a simulation. I find that question to be perhaps the most important question of all, and also perhaps the hardest question to answer. All we see and feel... it could all be a fabrication. There is no proof that anything is "real." I hope we think of how to test this.

@KeyElement-bl4tu 5 месяцев назад

What does the word "real" mean really ? Everyone has their own meaning. Usually personal.

@englewoodmusic 9 месяцев назад

What about the mysterious 95% of my girlfriend?

@thetruthspeaker1978 9 месяцев назад

I'm still doing...umm the research but on my good name I promise to let you know as soon as I ah figure her out 😂 jk

@ChrisGuthrie 9 месяцев назад

Lol ^

@Tocinos 9 месяцев назад

🧐🧐

@malikapollard3618 9 месяцев назад

Like he said. Don't interact don't care😂

@kariannecrysler640 9 месяцев назад

🤭 are you sure you aren’t underestimating that which you don’t know? jk

@Therealtriz 9 месяцев назад

First

@ra2186 9 месяцев назад

Chuck is back baby!

@krishnabhutada3983 9 месяцев назад

Interesting talk!!

@Kelticfury 9 месяцев назад

I love you guys. never change lol

@oendj 9 месяцев назад

Missed you Chuck!

@Eugeneovens 9 месяцев назад

“Comb Over Galaxy” - pure ad-lib comedy gold from Chuck. 👏😂

@Potarrello 7 месяцев назад

I love listening to you two. I laugh and laugh

@brady-mcdean 9 месяцев назад

Thank you.

@freyafox2037 9 месяцев назад

I appreciate the response about patreon and questions however your look was more than enough. If I had extra money I would be there asking profound questions.

@elizondorj 9 месяцев назад

If Chuck is on the show, the show is good 😉

@Anthony-el2jt 9 месяцев назад

Still fantastic. 🌙✨🌌

@SteveC38 9 месяцев назад

Nice One, Fellas 👍

@danielngozika 9 месяцев назад

I just love Chuck! 😂

@lekeAchgeketum 7 месяцев назад

Chuck it up! 🙌🏿

@MerlinsDrAgon 9 месяцев назад

Neil & Chuck >>> Rick & Morty

@stevescott5390 8 месяцев назад

This podcast is hilarious man! You guys are such jokesters!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@toluomoba4223 2 месяца назад

Well done again Sa Ra 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

@JoshYellowLedbetter 9 месяцев назад

Neil and Chuck i love you guys. You can take thst to the bank. I can tell you whats between the pixels and can confirm the inevitability of the big rip. Just enjoy the ride, it may take awhile. ;)