Its most likely the underground bunker in Framingham Ma, that would prob be the only worth while target past Boston itself, that and the air base on Cape Cod
To answer some of your questions, the ANG flies just about every platform the USAF does. F-15,F-16,F-22 and F-35s provide most of the Fighters for CONUS Air Defense. Tankers and Transport assets are also assigned to Air Guard Units. Air Guard Units often times have more experienced Pilots and Airmen. Also they are funded by the States and typically will have served in a particular Unit for a long time. This was true of the US Navy and Marine Reserve Squadrons as well before Base Closing and Realignment Commission 2005 BRAC 2005 retired over 500 F-16,F-15 and A-10s in addition to other platforms. Some Guard Units solely train for Air Defense while others like the 177th Fighter Wing are General Purpose Units. Langley AFB also hosts Detachment Units for Air Sovereignty Alert Duty on a Rotational basis. When the Pope visited Philadelphia, the Air Guard was supported by F-15Es and F-22s from the Active Duty Air Force and various Tanker and AWACS assets. This is common during special events in Philadelphia,Baltimore, DC, New York etc.
Dont think so. They need to pass the Atlantic with full of US and British Submarines waiting there, staying undetected. No chance. As soon as they leave All NATO countries especially the US going to track them and they will also send to intercept them with their own CSGs. When they get there, there will be full readiness with multiple Carrier Strike Groups already ready to defend + remember that Submarines. They are eveywhere in the Atlantic, undetected. There is no way the Atlantic Ocean does not have at least 3 submarines already patrolling that area even now, they are there now. How I know? I have a strong feeling there are many submarines right now. At least 3 patrolling mainly because of the Nuclear Deterrence. If you google Nuclear Deterrence you will find out that there is already 1 patrolling somewhere(Probably in the Atlantic Ocean) full readiness 24/7 every day + it could be more not just one. Remember Britain have its own Nuclear Deterrence, France and the US also have. What are the chances there is already 1 or maybe 2 in the Atlantic? There is a chance. So lets say there is already 2 + if ever Russia going to leave their coasts with their CSG US going to track them down. That means if they go to the Atlantic it will be full with US, British, France submarines. Trust me.
I was just heading down here to say basically the same thing, only I was going to say that the smoke emanating from the stacks of the fleet of tug boats would be visible from space.
And without an air craft carrier....big bodies of water all surround the US making it pretty tough for them to sail this way and would be destroyed by the Americans subs and Airforce....they would be picked off left and right on the approach.
I just couldn't help myself saying that Target was the target. The exact store I picked, was selected because it has the target logo...a bullseye...on the roof! And hearing everyone laugh when Cap told them all was the biggest payoff to the joke I could have wanted.
Last week, the Air Force confirmed that the F-15EX Eagle II fighter completed tests out over the Gulf of Mexico, demonstrating that it can carry up to 12 air-to-air missiles under its wings at one time.
Ward Carroll’s channel recently had a guest on that knew the EX fairly well. Fly in, launch all hell then boogie out at Mach 2.49. 29,000lb of thrust per engine, and it’s a responsive 29k.
If you really want to simulate this attack you would attack Norfolk Virginia which houses the world's largest naval base along with Langley AFB and Fort Eustis.
Norfolk would have been even harder and less likely to attack. I looked at it before deciding Boston. There would be additional aircraft joining if Norfolk was picked, including the Naval Air Station nearby. I quite literally picked the closest location on the east coast they could possibly reach that would be a Doolittle raid style attack. More for the psychological effect.
Cap TU95 can be hunted like Red October due to a frequency generated by the counter rotating supersonic roto blades. This soundwave resonates in the North Atlantic Ocean and can be detected in New York City . Tom Clancy was actually supersized by this and not likely molded in-game .
Supposedly they came from far North.. And it appears only America have a Satellite detection system So when it's hacked, nobody can detect anything anymore. 😂😂
It's being refitted with new technologies like other US carriers. And yes big ships will catch fire when restoring the same thing happened in US a few months ago a ship under maintenance caught fire. And a British sub on its way to participate in war games caught fire last year and was forced to surface. People are just being dumb about the capabilities of the Russians. If pentagon tells you the Russians are ahead in rocket technology they are. pentagon has even admitted that the Chinese has out pace US in ai technology and programing. US marines use Chinese compact drone's on missions. I mean at this point people start looking really uneducated with these statements.
@@marshalljulie3676 uneducated about Russian capabilities? Have you not looked at what’s happening in Ukraine? Even if the ship was properly maintained over the last 3 decades and in good working order (which it isn’t) the Russian navy wouldn’t have the necessary skills, personnel, or technological prowess to launch Al carrier operations period let alone in hostile waters off the U.S. coast while being bombarded by the most capable navy in the world. “Russian Capabilities” i laugh
@@Vulcanus3231 The same way people laugh on "Have you not looked at what’s happening in Ukraine?" You can't answer this question before "What sould have happened in Ukraine?" question. And we have nothing to compare it against, the amount of military aid for Ukraine makes this conflict absolutely unique.
@@dm1i Iraq was one of the largest militaries in the world in 1991/2003. Trained by the soviets and even french in some cases. In Desert Storm the US rolled over them and retook Kuwait in a matter of days. In '03 we were doing thunder runs through Baghdad in a month. The Russians have been overestimated, and thats putting it generously.
@@huntermurphy2148 > Iraq was one of the largest militaries in the world So does Ukraine, which uses modern NATO and late USSR equipment, on average the same generation as Russian. Iraq military tech was very outdated. > Trained by the soviets and even french in some cases. Ukrainian forces are trained by NATO 8 years in a row directly for this exact conflict, as NATO officials say. > In Desert Storm the US rolled over them It was not only US, it was a coalition of 7 nations. And Iraq was on it's own, left by allies. In Ukraine situation is directly opposite. Russia is doing everything on its own and Ukraine is regulary supplied by all NATO members with a modern tech. It never runs out of equipment. And the most powerful thing in Ukrainian side is outside intelligence. Every Ukrainian move is coordinated by NATO based on their satellites and AWACS planes data, which cannot be shot down, because Russia is not in direct war with NATO yet.
IDEA : For future naval simulations, to account for submarines (which are not properly modelled in DCS) could you mod the absolute hell out of a surface ship so that it behaves and is interacted with, similar to how a submarine would? E.g mess with detection and engagement ranges, speed, weapons etc so that in terms of numbers it would be similar to a submarine, though obviously the visual model would still be a ship but still... Ygm?
Oh, I forgot about the Virginia's. They'd probably sink that fleet real fast if war came. Of course, then you'd also have to simulate the alpha's defending the fleet.
Excellent communication Reapers!!! Lots of stuff in the air, and that communication and vectoring everyone to proper targets was spot on!!! Nice flying as always Grim Reapers!!!
2:08: You forgot Dover AFB in Delaware. I actually got intercepted by a flight of two F-16s out of there on an interception training exercise. And Warfield ANG base with the 175TFS flying A-10s (which might be able to launch an attack on the Kutznetsov.) 5:24: The US actually uses a type of blimp over the US NE to fill the AWACS roll. JLENSS (Joint Land attack cruise missile Elevated Netted Sensor System) is basically a tethered blimp with a high power radar on it a couple thousand feet up.
@@flashgordon6670 If you look at the continental shelf for that area, it might be tough for a submarine to get close enough. Plus there are Sub bases and surface fleet ports not too far away. Also it wouldn't be as exciting.
This was so GR. I doubt they exist, but water dye mods might be the cherry on top for things like this; dye the land green, and the magical Iron Curtain Teleport zone Red.
i mean the aircraft carrier is still being repaired but it went on fire again some weeks ago so no way will they be able to get it working and operational lol
"Burlington Air National Guard"... I had to look in on this just to be sure but not even on the Vermont Air National Guard web page is it called the Burlington Air National Guard. Also that was my Dad's last unit before leaving the military as a LtCol in '91. He transferred from the F4 to the F16A with them. He liked the F16A except the part where the control board would short out sometimes when you wanted to use your missiles. He once told me "You can use your control panel, or your missiles but you can't use both". Still have his flight bag with helmet from his days as an F16 pilot. The bag and helmet visor cover even still have the unit patch on them. Also apparently he dropped a meatloaf on Bernie Sanders (then mayor of Burlington, VT) during a unit party while he was there. None of that last sentence is a euphemism, he literally dropped a meatloaf on him at a party.
The F-15 was always used as an interceptor in US NORAD units, replacing the F-106A/B in the late 70's to mid 80's. I served in the 318th FIS at McChord AFB in Tacoma WA which was part of the NORAD 25th Air Division and Northwest Air Defense Sector and worked on F-15A/B in 1988-1990. As the fastest tactical fighter, it was the obvious interceptor not just because of its speed but its long range, whereas the F-16 had a range of 150-250 miles at most.
@@ShootBlueHelmets as far as that ship, yes. A US oil powered aircraft carrier on its last cruise before being retired was in better condition than that ship was when it was brand new.
Love that you included Canada 🇨🇦 I think they would probably have been sent out to escort more AWACs to ensure a second fleet wasn't coming in further north.
I saw that NORAD included the Canadians for theater defense and noticed their base was far but close enough to be able to possibly assist. If I was adding the F-22s from Langley, I had to add our friends from the North.
Been watching these videos for a while now and a huge fan, and awesome to see Canada in a battle! That made me happy lol keep up the entertainment guys! And shout out to cap for the amount of thought and effort you put into setting up these scenarios!! ❤️
The New Hampshire National Guard has the KC 135 and now the KC 46 refueling aircraft. Not that it would be super helpful in this scenario it is definitely a incredible resource and only about 50 miles from Boston
Great vid Cap and crew! I really wish the Canadians would have stuck around a little longer. Im sure Burlington would have enjoyed to share some Vermont maple syrup with their northern neighbors!
2nd official: "We need to strike fear into the hearts of America" Vladimir Putin: What is that on the map? Target? 2nd official: the supermarket? Vlad: Send the fleet.
The Air National Guard in the US is just the USAF version of the US Army National Guard. They're essentially reservists, but the difference between the NG and the Reserves is the NG units are paid for by the states and are mainly under the control of the state governor (and are usually used for local disaster relief). In the event of a mobilization for some crisis, the President can "federalize" the Guard units and they become part of the Army or Air Force. They all work and train together, the difference is almost entirely administrative, and people move back and forth between active duty, Reserve, and Guard units. Guard units usually are equipped just like the regular branches, but maybe with a little less stuff, and a little older. The states pay for them, and they have a lot less money than Uncle Sam does. :-) The Guard units often (but not always) are administrative or support units (maintenance, transportation, medical, etc), so they just plug into the regular larger units if activated. A lot of people who don't really know much would turn up their noses at Guard units because they're "weekend warriors" an all that. But really, they're more experienced on average than the regular units. During the GWOT, they were deployed a lot, and it even has an economic effect--these are experienced and senior people being taken out of their jobs in the civilian sector and put in uniform for months at a time on the other side of the world. It definitely affects their workplaces at home.
They'll never beat the horseshoe crab! - Those darned polylines. Lol The real worry is subs of course. We probably have naval defenses in the area, and maybe some hidden defenses too.
@@flashgordon6670 Would be an interesting war game but I think existing units on patrol and of course sub fleets would have a lot to say about such a long plan of attack
When I was young, I saw f-16s parked at the Westhampton Air National Guard base. I don't know if they deactivated the base or something, but I have definitely seen them there!
@@williamfoote2888 no, Westhampton. On long island. I had no idea that they were f-16s at the time, but I remember EXACTLY what they looked like, and now I know exactly what they were!
Hey Cap.... I know this is a little aged, however, The National Guard is a state militia. All 50 states have a National Guard component, most have both Army and Air. They are deployed at the leisure of the Governor of the state they reside in as an emergency service for natural disasters, civil unrest, and civic projects. They are otherwise known as "Citizen Soldiers" or "Weekend Warriors". However, they are all controlled by the National Guard Bureau located in DC, which works/answers to the Army Reserve Component. They can be "federalized" in the event of war, to which they then become part of the regular Army. They serve/train one weekend a month and two weeks during the summer. During training, they have active-duty trainers bringing them up to current tech and speed with the regular army/air force. They often go out on ADSW (Active Duty/Special Work) with the Regular Army/Air Force for specialized training.
The US has stationary early warning drones along the coast that are always on station. They move them around in a general area from time to time. I know nothing about their capabilities. We're about 75 miles from the coast and we could see one blinking off to our east, night after night, year after year. After a few years they moved it a little further inland just off to our west for a couple of years.
1:55 Yo Cap! I'm from North West Indiana however I can be in Chicago 30-40 min depending on traffic lol and very close to Lake Michigan! It's been an interesting place to grow up in a rural area/suburbs lmao with Gary Indiana just a few miles down the road!😆 in case you're wondering why I mention that is bc the wonderful City Gary used to be the murder cap of the entire country! Now I think its Flint Michigan... Anyway thought I'd comment on my location since you mentioned my Country lol probably got a lil carried away😅 Shout out from North West Indiana!😁✌
I understood that US National guard units are akin to the UK territorials. Only they get real (often older) equipment. National guard units (especially medical and other specialists) were involved in the Gulf wars, they're just not full time professionals. - If someone from America knows better I'd be happy to be corrected.
they are really protective of the National Guard over there, constantly say they are just as competent as the regulars and all that... but the simple fact is, they get all the hand me down stuff the main forces have finished with. Vietnam-era rifles and tanks. Planes retired from the air force. Old missiles the main forces have upgraded from. Even the friggin US Coast Guard get more modern military assets....
Local air national guard flew the same planes as my wing did in 2000. They're last to get new stuff but they end up with parity usually. And they do the same rotations as federal units now so it's a moot point as they get the same deployed equipment when overseas anyway. They're generally specialized too though I don't believe any are too unique.
The ANG pilots are full time professionals. Some of these units are set for CAP over the US most of the year and deploy overseas all the time. They are usually very experienced pilots.
Regular army is much better equipped and trained. Regular army is a lifestyle, we lived that stuff everyday. National guard is nicknamed weekend warriors lol for a reason.
@@grimreapers maybe cause my notifications is on...or maybe cause I watch EVER video you guys do, I get the notifications. But yea, I even still check your channel manually. Love your effort. Hope YT pays you enough comm. 👍 Greetings from the Philippines 🇵🇭
The Navy's gonna be pissed at you for not including NAS Oceana in Virginia Beach, where Strike Fighter Wing Atlantic is based. It's home to something like 18 Hornet and Super Hornet fleet squadrons, and at least SOME of them are gonna be there at any given time.
The National Guard, both Army and Air, are assigned to their respective states and report to their states Governor and fall under the National Guard Bureau of the US Department of Defense (DOD). They are the only branch/component of the American Military that can operate within CONUS under Title 32 of the United States Code (USC). Active Duty and Reserves are Federal Military that operate under Title 10 of the USC.
The ships would probably be sunk by a few submarines, before any plane was launched. Very hypothetical situation. There'd be no sneaking up on the coast. Everything is tracked, constantly
FYI I have always been told the Air National Guard pilots are top notch. Basically all experienced Air Force guys that still want to fly jets but also have a more normal life.
during 9/11 even the "scramble ready" fighters were 1 hour away from ready to take off armed , they had to take off with no missiles or ammo on board so i dont thing we are ready for any attacks on the coast
Love the videos, gang. I was thinking though, is it really feasible to scramble that many fighters in that short a timespan in the event of a "surprise" attack? I mean, there's only 4ish F16's on alert at, say, McGuire AFB in New Jersey (according to Google Maps). While there's no fighters visible at Andrews, there are only 5 open covers where some might be. I guess what I'm getting at is the overwhelming wave put forward to crash against the MiG-29's wouldn't have materialized that quickly.
Hello Cap, do you ever see a DCS mod of mig 35. Because the mig 35 carries an AESA radar and advanced avionics which is an super upgrade version of mig 29/K version.
The US National Guard is full of mostly combat units. The “reserves” are mostly combat support units. So the US National Guard is used to getting activated, trained and then deployed into combat.
If a potentially hostile fleet was moving toward America the Navy is almost certainly going to be involved in intercepting, tracking, and potentially taking out that fleet. That carrier force is likely to run into sub attack. Those bombers are also going to be greeted by American fighters before they get anywhere near the East Coast. When it comes to fuel they may not get any more on the intercept but on the way home It wouldn't be surprising to have some gas stations in the air. You may also consider that there are many more potential landing zones available should fuel be an issue on the way home.
Correct. This is stupid. He didn't do any research and completely missed N.O.B. Norfolk and the Naval Air Station Norfolk and Oceana. Guess he's to obsessed with stealth. Duno.
I've actually played a similar situation out in wargaming. Though my personal tactic which drove the Allied players nuts, was to use the air launched missiles as a distraction, while a number of Yansen, and Lada submarines to sneak in under the attack. When the US forces started to RTB for fuel, I started launching cruise missiles. This gave the US player a choice. Does he risk his planes to take down the missiles I'm firing, and potentially lose a large number of them when they run out of fuel, and in doing so lose a large part of his air defense; or does he ignore those missiles while US frigates, Cruisers, and Destroyers chase the various submarines. Those submarines were chosen for some technical reasons, I might add. The Yansen being a very modern nuclear submarine; while the Lada is a 'diesel' boat with an air independent system. The Lada being far quieter than most any other submarine out there. We ran the scenario three times, with different starting conditions, and two out of the three times I managed to land cruise missiles on several key points on the eastern seaboard. While I didn't cripple the US, I did soften them up for future attack.
Another thing, even Russia managed to stealth all the way to the coast, basically the whole country would respond and scramble jets. Bombers and jets would also go from Alaska to russia at the same time. Basically the whole country would only be military air craft and the citizens would start loading their guns
I was really hoping the CF-18s would show up and save the day, but of course they simply didn't have the legs for it. This is the reason I am upset for our federal govt. replacing the aging CF-18s with F-35s instead of Saab Gripens which came in 2nd place somehow, which actually have the range and the design to fly in cold environments to allow Canada to actually protect it's Arctic soveringity, which the F-35s do not, not to mention Saab would have given us manufacturing rights to help rebuild Canada's aerospace industry that we willingly gutted when we gave up the Avro Arrow to American pressure, but what can I do, eh?
Refueling tankers possibly would be available around the coast and possibly fairly out there with several refueling squadrons based out of NY, NJ, Mass, all up and down the coast. At anytime there's likely one around. And can we not also refuel from other jets and drones now? They technically could get Admiral Kuznetsov across the ocean with that fancy new nuclear ice breaking Tug sea-going tug Sergei Balk lolz
Cap, the Air National Guard sometimes gets a bad rap but truthfully the pilots are often more skilled as they have moved from active duty to the Guard. Interestingly, this scenario is similar to the a section of Tom Clancy's Hunt for Red October book (not in the movie, unfortunately) where in an attempt to warn off the Russian fleet approaching the US East Coast while searching for the Red October, the US launches a strike package at high altitude from the US bases. At the moment they reach Russian fleet missile range a squadron of Vermont ANG A-10, that had been approaching the fleet at low level pops up over the fleet and flairs them! Wish that had been in the film!
I know this is an older video but, you should have picked Northrop Grumman (Burlington or Walpole) as the target, or at least MIT (kill major internet hub) or for moral damage, Old Ironsides in the harbor. That being said, you hit the wrong city entirely. Should have hit Portsmouth NH\Kittery Me for the Naval Shipyard (less distance than Boston and there’s at least one sub there at any given time) or Bath Iron Works in Bath, ME which handles repairs efits on smaller surface ships and is contracted to build Arleigh Burkes and littorals. Fuel legs not quite as important as the ANG runs tankers out of Pease in Portsmouth, NH. Speaking of Pease, it would be interesting to redo this simulation in the late 80s, Pease was an active AF base with FB-111s running out of it for SAC and Loring out of Bangor, ME had F15-As (ANG) until 1992.
I used to say when I was in the dessert; tell our troops(Canadian) that “they” stole our beer, Timmies and claimed we “suck” at hockey. No country in the world would survive…just sayin. 🇨🇦 Veteran
ANG units do actually get sent over seas too. There are ANG units with air to air kills, and obviously nothing has happened over the US of that sort so it had to have come from over seas conflicts.
Cap, Langley AFB is in Hampton Va. Also, within 40 miles of Hampton area is Norfolk Naval Base, Little Creek Amphib Base and Oceana Naval Base. Hundreds of fighter aircraft including F18 Super Hornet and F35s.
The Kuznetsov was on its way to a Russia friendly port in Cuba. Because the Kuznetsov engine runs on crude oil for fuel I don’t think it could ever make it that far.
I know that this wouldn’t be feasible but I just felt it would be funny if a bunch of Boy Scouts on a trip to battleship cove suddenly found themselves drafted on board the USS Massachusetts.
Active duty and weekend warriors are NOT the same...they have to do one drill weekend a month and a two week exercise once a year. YES; they do get deployed but after deployment, they go back to their semi-civilian lives.