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COULD DISC ROT RUIN YOUR MEDIA COLLECTION? | DISC ROT EXPLAINED 

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Disc rot is a topic that comes up a lot in questions to me! Is this a serious concern for collectors of physical media? Will your Blu-ray Discs crumble to dust or rot in the next 20-30 years? How can you prevent disc rot? I’ll cover it all in this video!
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@kevindudley9617
@kevindudley9617 3 года назад
I have not had a single CD, DVD, or blu-ray fall victim to disc rot in over 31 years of physical media collecting.
@dallascowboyshighlights9632
@dallascowboyshighlights9632 3 года назад
Agreed. I’ve never seen this.
@VizzyBon3
@VizzyBon3 3 года назад
Lol yeah never. Messages about it? Ridiculous.
@paulcarroll923
@paulcarroll923 3 года назад
I’ve had 3 in 30 years. Not a bad ratio, seeing I own over 2,000 Physical discs. However I have transferred my collection to my Zappiti- to prevent the loss of my content.
@chrisi4581
@chrisi4581 3 года назад
@@paulcarroll923 The only disc that I can remember that had rot was Reservoir Dogs on Blu-ray. I've also been collecting for numerous years and have had thousands of discs.
@paulcarroll923
@paulcarroll923 3 года назад
@@alexfernandez8083 the token is to register your device , that you own. Not true about the viewing , as you can be off line and still view all your content. You just wouldn’t be able to update any metadata for your library (art work, directors etc etc) if it was off line.
@musicman8270
@musicman8270 3 года назад
"Disc rot" is caused by minerals in the water used to clean the information layer before the final layer is added, when it rusts it affects the laser reading. I worked at a disc plant in the 90's and they had a machine the size of a truck that did nothing but wash discs with purified water. Rot is still a problem but not the major problem it used to be, mainly from foreign manufacturers
@peterhumphreys9201
@peterhumphreys9201 3 года назад
I had some CDs that rotted. They were made using silver instead of aluminium as Philips experimented with this manufacturing technique. The CDs tarnished, and unsurprisingly, Philips decided to use aluminium in the future.
@phantom1122334455films
@phantom1122334455films 8 месяцев назад
My agents of shield season 4 disc 1 is brown on the edge is is not playing but the rest of the season is fine I keep my in my basement where there is a fire place that goes or air condition will they get disc rot ?
@musicman8270
@musicman8270 8 месяцев назад
@phantom1122334455films Environmental conditions have nothing to do with disc rot. If the water used to wash the metal part of the disc has minerals they might rust, causing an obstruction to the laser. Where I worked they installed a Hugh washing device that used purified water. The only way to prevent disc rot is to make sure the metal surface is not contaminated. If it is there is nothing to be done but cross your fingers
@reh3884
@reh3884 8 месяцев назад
Disc rot is caused my many different things, not just one.
@musicman8270
@musicman8270 8 месяцев назад
@reh3884 One actually. The information layer doesn't rust. Minerals deposited from water used to wash this layer do. The only way to stop it is to make sure there is no contamination before you press it.
@zzygyy
@zzygyy 3 года назад
STORE in a cool dry place. Like a mummy in a tomb. Preservation.
@BangBang-hk4rg
@BangBang-hk4rg 3 года назад
@Yongo Bazuk 🤣😂🤣😂
@jackharrison8838
@jackharrison8838 3 года назад
@Yongo Bazuk Oh, I don't think it is a good idea to store your media outside under a blanket. I think that the ants crawling on them could leave traces of food and dirt on them and I don't think that fungus would be good for them. I would recommend that you take them out of your backyard and store them on a shelf in your house. If not, at least use a dry blanket instead of a damp one.
@shathriel
@shathriel 3 года назад
Never had a disc rot on me, in fact until now I've never heard of this.
@ghiggs8389
@ghiggs8389 3 года назад
I've had it happen with burned CDs but haven't seen it with commercial releases.
@Will_Bx_NYC_718
@Will_Bx_NYC_718 3 года назад
Haven’t ever had it happen to me either. Whether it’s music CD’s, Games, DVD’s or BluRay, none have had disc rot. And I, ta;long about CD’s from the early to mid 90’s.
@KejnTheImmortal
@KejnTheImmortal 2 года назад
Yeah well consider yourself lucky.
@TonyGarrett-p1c
@TonyGarrett-p1c Месяц назад
@@ghiggs8389 That is in fact common for burned CDs to be much more vulnerable.
@apemoon1731
@apemoon1731 3 года назад
The oldest CD I have is 34 years old and it still looks perfect and plays perfectly.
@robt.v.8688
@robt.v.8688 3 года назад
What is it?
@apemoon1731
@apemoon1731 3 года назад
@@robt.v.8688 actually, it's 33 years old, my mistake. It's a double CD of 'Now that's what I call music 13', released in 1988. I've got a few others dating back to '88 too.
@BlueOceanBelow
@BlueOceanBelow 3 года назад
Yep, I have several early CDs and they're all still rot-free. An example is Animotion's debut, pressed in 1984 (37 years old).
@akasunasasori4258
@akasunasasori4258 2 года назад
is it ok to put my music cd collection in storage box...?
@gizmo359c
@gizmo359c 2 года назад
I've got a couple of original run Beatles CD's which are fine, they're from the 80's and I've got an original Nevermind which is 30 this year and still fine..
@rakim5894
@rakim5894 3 года назад
The number one fear of physical media collectors 😱
@Psycopat
@Psycopat 3 года назад
How the hell did you end up with screen name “Rakim”?!? (Good shit)
@rakim5894
@rakim5894 3 года назад
@@Psycopatit's my name 🤷‍♂️
@Psycopat
@Psycopat 3 года назад
@Rakim tell your parents PsycoPat says they’re AWESOME!!! 👏🤟👌✌️👍✊
@rakim5894
@rakim5894 3 года назад
@@Psycopat 😂 ✌️
@KRAFTWERK2K6
@KRAFTWERK2K6 3 года назад
It's like the "Glass fungus" fear for Photographers.
@Emma-R
@Emma-R 3 года назад
I’m more concerned with ME rotting away in 30 years than my BluRays.
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
😂😂😂same
@RyneMcKinney
@RyneMcKinney 3 года назад
Yeah I only care about how long "I" live
@mymangodfrey
@mymangodfrey 3 года назад
Ha! People do seem to think they’re going to live for at least 150 years. The good and bad news is that your possessions will outlive you
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
@@mymangodfrey very true
@djpainkiller3326
@djpainkiller3326 3 года назад
LMAO this is funny but also sad to think about
@DangerousDevilOfficial
@DangerousDevilOfficial 3 года назад
I have found this really has only ever affected my discs that are cheaply made. Mostly cdrs. A couple of my laserdiscs as well. Heat is a major enemy of physical media! Of my 10,000 plus discs across all media, less than a dozen have died from media rot. I have CDs from the 80’s that are still perfect. Those dozen or so discs, at least half were cheap cdrs. So out of 9500 factory replicated discs, only about 5 or 6 were bad.
@acdc09
@acdc09 3 года назад
Same here, I have cds from the late 80's & early 90's that are still in great shape.
@suppaduppa
@suppaduppa 3 года назад
10k disks?! Holy shite! Are you a collector or reseller?
@DangerousDevilOfficial
@DangerousDevilOfficial 3 года назад
@@suppaduppa personal collection. Started CDs on the 80’s. DVDs late 90’s. And have been collecting ever since. I went back and got into laserdisc after the fact. Since I have a home theatre like Jeff. And have about 300 laserdiscs. But the big majority are dvds. Followed by Blu Ray. Then 4K and Blu Ray 3D. I even have about 10 HD DVDs and a player. The problem as I said before, it is getting harder and harder to find movies I want to spend money to buy. Because I simply had about 85-90% of the movies I always wanted. So I don’t spend more than a buck or two on movies I have never seen. I have purchased, 2,000 plus of the movies at local dollar stores. I also have a big video game collection. Every system Sony has ever released. And nearly 1,000 games to go with them! I am single. Kids raised. So this is one of my hobbies. I do also sell movies part time online. I have been working hard to get my own production studio (Ocean Breeze Media Group) going. And we have multiple small projects coming to do DVD and Blu Ray. We have released a few dozen projects over the years. But not consistently. We have two out of print film restorations currently in the works (Little Shop Of Horrors, original film. With Jack Nicholson). And a couple of our own original projects: horror movie and sci fi movie. It is going slower than I want. But hey, that’s how things are right now. 🤷‍♂️
@suppaduppa
@suppaduppa 3 года назад
@@DangerousDevilOfficial My concern is that by owning a large amounts of movies a majority won't ever be watched. I'm nearing 1000 movies (20 or so are tv series). It would take me at least 3 years to watch all of them if I watched 1 or 2 movies each day. On top of that I still got around 150 movies on my wishlist. It's fun collecting them but at the same time I feel like Im wasting money on goods that are not consumed. Just to chase that temporary high by mass consuming stuff that has no other utility than destraction from reality. What are your thoughts? How do you cope with managing money/physical space/watching your movies?
@DangerousDevilOfficial
@DangerousDevilOfficial 3 года назад
@@suppaduppa well, you are right. I have probably (an educated guess) 3,000 movies I have never watched. And to be honest, at least half may never get watched. But I guess I look at it as, I don’t drink, spend money on booze or cigarettes, partying, gambling, expensive car builds. Anything like that. So it is a hobby to me. Plus, some of these movies, believe it or not, may go out of print. And be super, super rare. So beyond having value there (I have at least 150 titles worth $50-300 each! ) people like me may literally be preserving some of these films that end up lost. Beyond that my main love is music. So I spend a lot of my free time making new music. And releasing that. I have always been fascinated with the video and audio industry. So I am a geek if you will. Money wise, I own all the things I need. And have almost no debt. So I don’t let buying movies destroy me financially. For everyone the answer will be different. Space wise, it does get hard to display the movies. So mine are in disc cases. That hold 540 discs each. I still need nearly 20 of those! I have plenty of room in my house to store the cases away. Pretty big house. Just me. So that doesn’t bother me. You sound like a solid collector. But not a freak about it like me. That’s fine too. Everyone has their limits. So my thoughts are, do what you feel you are comfortable with. And by no means go into debt to collect! I also plan to use part of my collection as my retirement. Not movies so much. But all of my new, sealed Sony gear. 👍
@Zachary_Dale
@Zachary_Dale 3 года назад
I have DVDs and PS1 games that are over 20 years old that still work today. I even have 30+ year old records that still work today. Blu rays are much more durable as far as disc decay goes. Newer discs probably have a lifespan of 40-50 years. If it can last that long I'm good lol.
@Excalion88
@Excalion88 3 года назад
I have only seen rot in my Laserdiscs...fairly frequently even. Some of my oldest DVDs are from the mid-late '90s, and none of them have any rot and I have cds from the '80s that are all fine too.
@BB0Y0
@BB0Y0 Год назад
That's called quality
@piercerose8374
@piercerose8374 2 года назад
Im a retro video game collector and the ps2 is my absolute favorite piece of hardware. I buy the original format of the games even though they’re free and easy to emulate; because I treasure the experience and physicality. I did begin to worry about disc rot after buying more rare games. This video help me stay confident in collecting.
@stevenlupanko2983
@stevenlupanko2983 Год назад
Those will all rot. Ps2 games always rot like out of date fruit. You must sell them to me immediately for 1/10th of their true value. 👍
@centurion8446
@centurion8446 8 месяцев назад
Yeah emulators are good for new machines but nothing quite reflects original game son original hardware
@WTDProductions
@WTDProductions 3 года назад
I’ve had a few old DVDs get bad disc rot, but likely because they weren’t taken care of (before I became a collector) and was probably because of exposure to 110°+ Arizona heat while we moved
@Hyper-M
@Hyper-M 3 года назад
Yes, be careful when moving. Someone left a box of my discs in hot summer heat because I wasn’t focused on it. They all play fine so I hope they are still ok.
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
I’m a devout dvd collector and this has always been my fear. I even check all my discs regularly for any signs of damage
@stevenlupanko2983
@stevenlupanko2983 Год назад
Grainy footage. Time to upgrade to betamax mate.
@kite198
@kite198 3 года назад
so when i lived in texas, my family put my DVD collection in the attic where heat was really bad... i got that collection back and well... most of it works except for one box set of Aqua teen hunger force :< buuuuttt my blurays have been fine, it takes while for them to rot.
@markus19999
@markus19999 3 года назад
fun fact: there's this record disc called m-disc that claim that they last a thousand years
@jeremy3261
@jeremy3261 3 года назад
Wow thanks, I might buy those.
@ethanberry9846
@ethanberry9846 3 года назад
Though no one will be around to confirm it. Lol
@markus19999
@markus19999 3 года назад
@@jeremy3261 remember to have an external m-disc player for your pc to burn them
@jeremy3261
@jeremy3261 3 года назад
@@markus19999 oh, thanks.
@markus19999
@markus19999 3 года назад
@@jeremy3261 no problem 👍🏻
@len9518
@len9518 5 месяцев назад
Disc Rot is phoney. Doesn't happen if the disc is not damaged. I speak from 35 years experience.
@robertobuatti7226
@robertobuatti7226 3 года назад
I've been a physical media movie and tv collector for over 26 years since I was 13, I've collected various formats through the years and have never experienced disc rot, never knew it was a thing till now.
@BleedCubbieBlue18x
@BleedCubbieBlue18x 3 года назад
Warner Bros HD-DVD discs are notorious for this. I’ve got about a dozen in my collection that are unplayable now. This is unique though, most people don’t even know what HD-DVD was much less collect them like me.
@jake7311
@jake7311 Месяц назад
Very accurate. I also have a small collection of hd dvds and my two different copies of the movie 300 do not work due to disc rot from poor manufacturing
@stewartschuster
@stewartschuster 3 года назад
I've been buying DVD's and Blu Rays for about two decades now, and I've only had one disc that entire time that MIGHT have been disc rot. If you take care of them, they should be good for a very long time.
@AG-bp3ll
@AG-bp3ll 3 года назад
Take care of them doesn't always have anything to do with it. All of mine have sat safely in their cases inside my living room and I still had rot happen. These are typically manufacturing errors. Criterion at least has admitted the problems with one of the plants they no longer use and have offered to replace their discs that are rotting. I ended up losing six Warner DVDs that no longer play. The discs don't even look damaged. They look brand new but will freeze in every player I try them in. It is rare, but it happens.
@johnathin0061892
@johnathin0061892 3 года назад
@@AG-bp3ll I have had only one DVD fail, about a year after I bought it, despite it looking brand new with no signs of damage. Ran it through multiple drives and software to try and recover it (it was expensive and rare) with no luck. It was a WB disc too.
@RRK1965
@RRK1965 3 года назад
I’ve seen how badly some people treat their discs. You see scratches and fingerprints. That’s why I don’t lend my discs to anyone.Fortunately there are streaming services.
@lionheartroar3104
@lionheartroar3104 3 года назад
Just say no. Let them destroy their own physical media.
@fritzilla
@fritzilla 3 года назад
It's funny you say that. I remember, every time someone would visit and see my collection, they would want to borrow some. I used to lend until I got to a point of getting so tired chasing them down afterwards that I stopped lending them. I actually liked lending them, but hated having to ask 3 months later. And of course there's always the dreaded, "Oh, Didn't I give it back to you? Yeah, i think I gave it back to you." Then what do you do? It's your friend. So I stopped. However, in the past few years, since streaming, no one cares to borrow discs anymore. Thank goodness. :)
@jordanmillraney5481
@jordanmillraney5481 3 года назад
Disc rot exists on Warner Bros HD DVD’s.
@patrickcrone9946
@patrickcrone9946 3 года назад
Yup. Every disc I owned was garbage after three years.
@Beansrdone
@Beansrdone 3 года назад
I had it as well. Mostly on the duel disc, DVD on one side, HD-DVD on the other.
@CPBuff22
@CPBuff22 3 года назад
Weird, none of the ones I kept ever seen a problem
@shanerollins3736
@shanerollins3736 3 года назад
@@Beansrdone Those flipper discs have always been shit. Regardless of what combination of formats is on either side, they always stop working very soon after you get them. I’m frankly dreading picking up the box set of Gone With The Wind because the special features are on a flipper disc.
@arthurcollector4002
@arthurcollector4002 3 года назад
not only hd dvd wb, my blade runner case version on blu ray is completely destroyed, but the dvd discs are fine
@angelmorenofarias5086
@angelmorenofarias5086 3 года назад
I have a Fleetwood Mac CD of 1988 and it still works perfectly.
@hotgirlsarehot
@hotgirlsarehot 3 года назад
if I was rich , I'd just buy 5 bluray players as backups and hope they last for 10+ years.
@douglaswilliams6834
@douglaswilliams6834 2 года назад
I work in medical imaging and one place I worked at in the early 2000s archived their images on DVD-Rs. We had a significant number of them become unreadable after seven or eight years. Having said that commercially made DVDs and Blu-Rays use a totally different method of "burning" the data on the media, and are much more stable than DVD-R media. I have personally never commercially made CD, DVD, or Blu-Ray disk go bad.
@groofoot
@groofoot Год назад
I live in the upper midwest, about 70 miles west of Chicago ..... our winters are unbelievably, bitterly cold and dry (wind chills of -35 in January) .... and our summers are horribly hot and hella-humid; for instance, today is July 27, and it's going to get up to about 96 degrees today, with very High humidity. My point is that we have horrible heat and humidity, in summer, and I have been collecting (and, therefore, storing) CDs for 34 years, now, and I've never had a CD with disc rot. Ever. Most of my music CDs are stored inside large, closed plastic tubs, as I have cats, and .... as I say, I've never experienced disc rot .... if anyone cares lol
@lionheartroar3104
@lionheartroar3104 3 года назад
All of my cds are fine, including the first ones I bought in 1984. Store and handle properly...no high heat , water humidity, and keep them in plastic (not paper) cases...and don't loan them to anyone.
@Vampyre_Media
@Vampyre_Media 3 года назад
I know this exists, but I haven't had this happen at all, in 30 years of collecting CDs, DVDs, and Blu Rays. But,i have always stored them well.
@christopherbrown5023
@christopherbrown5023 3 года назад
None of my 5 inch optical media collection (BD, CD, etc.) has ever developed any rot that I've seen. However, rotting has affected some of my LaserDisc collection (Laser rot). That's because in the 80s and 90s, certain LD manufacturing facilities had quality control issues that weren't properly addressed. Thankfully, those problems have MOSTLY been corrected, since the days of LaserDisc (a format I still have and enjoy).
@anthonymartino9917
@anthonymartino9917 3 года назад
@@christopherbrown5023 Mine either in 27 years I call bs on this fear. Store them vertically in their case in dark er areas temp controlled and handle them from edges they should last a lifetime.
@christopherbrown5023
@christopherbrown5023 3 года назад
@@anthonymartino9917 I wouldn't call it bs, but I believe rotting would be a very very isolated and remote problem, these days.
@robertlakay88
@robertlakay88 3 года назад
Discs are though. You almost have to go out of your way to harm them. If your CD or DVD inner sleeves are being mishapped or warped by humidity, then you should be concerned about disc rot later down the line.
@Vampyre_Media
@Vampyre_Media 3 года назад
@@robertlakay88 I agree.
@mymangodfrey
@mymangodfrey 3 года назад
Great video. Just a note: there have been articles and forum discussions about the imminent death of laserdiscs for 20+ years. There was even a high-profile, hysterical article calling laser rot “a tragedy.” It’s 2021 and the laserdiscs are fine-almost all of them! They’re fine! I started collecting them a few years ago (like a vulture, I waited until the world had completely forgotten the retro-futuristic media format I always lusted after as a kid-I’ve bought a ton of discs for a dollar each that have ancient $30 price tags on the wrap). Even discs that were clearly stored carelessly and shipped to me in crates without bubble wrap... are all fine. People worry too much. Like the man said: don’t leave your discs out in 100 degree heat in a swamp or freezing temperatures in the Arctic tundra, and you’ll be okay.
@josephcontreras8930
@josephcontreras8930 Год назад
I have a laserdisc copy of 2001 space oddessey and star wars no way to play them but I keep them for posterity and future generations.😅
@groofoot
@groofoot 11 месяцев назад
Very well stated! 8-)
@gentlesirpancakebottoms6692
@gentlesirpancakebottoms6692 3 года назад
True! I'm more worried about the availability of the necessary hardware to play the various physical media and how to get replacement parts for them. What I'm most worried about however that negates all those worries is how shortlived digital media and streaming services can be and how for example even singleplayer games today can't be played in 10 years from now because the servers/service they run on might be shut down and movies and series can be removed because of licensing issues or stupid things like cancel culture. I try to limit my collection of physical media because it will get harder and harder to actually use and play them over time. But the things I really enjoy and care for I must have physical. I don't trust digital media and how it is currently run.
@stevenlupanko2983
@stevenlupanko2983 Год назад
Always someone who can repair a dvd/blu ray or 4k player. Even ebay sellers offer services. A lot of radio enthusiasts can repair extremely complex radios that are 100 years old and they can replace any part from tubes to boards to electrics. Worry ye not. And blu ray disks will last about 150 years and people are still paying hundreds of pounds for old bollywood vhs and betamax and on some horror films even though the film degrades badly and the picture is atrocious. I think blu ray and 4k will become obsolete accept for newer titles the decline between 2009-2018 was nearly 80 percent and its gone down even faster since. There's a possibility blu ray 2k will still stay about but at 5 thousand pound to restore a movie from 2k to 4k lots of 4k titles will never be released. Watership down has just been pulled from 4k production even though the artwork was completed and pre sales had been sold. Also factor in for 4k that not all original film footage can be restored to 4k level because the master copy has deteriorated , you can't polish and turd as the saying goes. 😀
@Luke-1296
@Luke-1296 3 года назад
I’ve got one blu ray that’s rotting presumably due to faulty manufacturing. I’ve never had a CD or DVD rot. I’ve got quite a few cds from the 80s and they play perfectly even with scratches. Scratches in a CD aren’t nearly as bad as scratches on dvds.
@Badassvidsz
@Badassvidsz 3 года назад
My odest CD album is since 1990 it's the Dave Weckl's < Master Plan > and one year later his 2nd CD album < Heads Up > and since then i have bought many CD albums all of them are in perfect condition , Also my oldest DVDs are since 2000 also without any problem and DVD-ROM videogames and CD-Rs / DVD-Rs too no problem but never had any Blu-ray . I'm pretty much sure it depends from the quality of the materials in factories they build the CD/DVD/Blu-ray discs , normally they all can last if they be in a good care for more than 100 years and i say that because i've read that in hi-fi audio video magazines in late 90s .
@shanepatrick641
@shanepatrick641 2 года назад
I have an album from the 90s looked bronzed that I bought from Music Magpie they refurbish all DVDs 📀 or CDs 💿 people sell to them. The album plays just fine, in case you wanted to know which album it is it’s “Rocking all over the years” by Status Quo 🙂
@whoknows3820
@whoknows3820 2 года назад
My father chose to store his music collection in binder-style cd cases with cloth sleeves back in the 90s. After sitting in them for 20+ years, all 200 of his cds now have mild "oxidization" or cloudiness somewhere within the cds' layers. The cds still work but they don't look as good as cds that have been kept in jewel cases their entire lives. Now I'm transferring them back to jewel cases to hopefully halt the oxidization.
@belot217
@belot217 5 месяцев назад
Really? I thought sealed folders were better than jewel cases because less air? Good to know.
@Starbug1S1
@Starbug1S1 3 года назад
I melted some CD's in my car one time. Luckily, they were just CD-R's, so nothing was really lost. I did learn that direct sunlight does destroy 'em.
@CryWolf-sm9iw
@CryWolf-sm9iw 3 года назад
In over 20+ years of collecting discs, I’ve only had 1 cd and 1 dvd exhibit signs of disc rot.
@delosreyesgino
@delosreyesgino 3 года назад
We'll all be probably be dead before discs start to rot.
@thegrimyeaper
@thegrimyeaper 3 года назад
I have a CD collection I started 30 years ago, DVD collection I started 20 years ago, the first Playstation discs, Blu-Rays. And I've never even heard of this issue.
@zzygyy
@zzygyy 3 года назад
Same here
@reedgrele6673
@reedgrele6673 3 года назад
It's rare to find a DVD, BD, or CD that has rot. But back in the laserdisc era, I've had MANY titles that either had rot (colored speckling in the picture, not to be confused with "inclusion" which early DoscoVision titles suffered from) when brand new, or developed it with time. I recall back in 1984 or so going through 5 copies of Never Say Never Again at a Crazy Eddies store. ALL 5 had ROT on various sides!
@thegrimyeaper
@thegrimyeaper 3 года назад
@@reedgrele6673 I totally skipped out on the laserdisc era, sounds like it wasn't as "prefect" as they started calling CDs. :P
@reedgrele6673
@reedgrele6673 3 года назад
@@thegrimyeaper not ALL titles had rot. I've never had a 3M pressing go bad. Technidisc was the worst. But at the time, Laserdisc was the best looking and sounding video format available to consumers. Of course, when DVD came along, that was the beginning of the end for LD.
@Badassvidsz
@Badassvidsz 3 года назад
Same here too no problem .
@sbcinema
@sbcinema 3 года назад
Disc rot is a serious problem with laser discs. As for CDs-DVDs, I have the feeling that the older ones get along better with it than the newer and cheaper made ones. the best thing you can do is to store them in a cool dry & dark environment ( and make some safety koppies )
@mitchgray7391
@mitchgray7391 3 года назад
That's a collection. I only have just over 600. But in my defense I also collect cds and video games. And I've only been collecting 5 years. Lol
@blacklantern001
@blacklantern001 3 года назад
My DVD copy of the grim adventures of Billy and Mandy and zathura both fell victims to disc rot for no apparent reason and good luck trying to find Billy and Mandy now it's over $100 for that set
@marchertzler6917
@marchertzler6917 3 месяца назад
Warner Brothers DVDs have a lot of disc rot issues. There is a big list of them floating around the web. My entire season box sets of Babylon 5 were completely toasted and I had to buy the Blu Rays. Bogart Signature 2 box set has disc rot. The Superman season sets 5&6, and The Man From Uncle complete box sets also have rot. Those are all Warners titles. Not sure which studio it was, but I also had disc rot with a Blu ray of "The King Of New York" with Christopher Walken. I have 6 players, 3 Blu and 3 4K, and these discs refused to load or locked up during play back. I have a varied collection of Laser Discs, DVDs, Blu Rays, and 4Ks. I have been around for awhile, so I have experienced quite a lot of issues with discs.
@markcenter7879
@markcenter7879 3 года назад
I have 400 laserdisc’s from the ‘90’s. They cost $29 to $129. Way over 90% have rot. I stored them in the house, in custom shelves, on their edge, disc’s have envelopes, jackets have envelopes. It’s now a useless collection. My huge collection of CD’s (1500) , DVD’s (3000) and Blu-rays (couple hundred) have no issues at all. Rot sucks.
@Super3punks
@Super3punks 3 года назад
I Read the rot is caused on Laserdisc by the glue in the middle that holds the 2 Disc sides together stopped collecting them because of this.
@richardgregory3684
@richardgregory3684 3 года назад
Laserdiscs were WAY WAY more susceptible to rot, because of the materials used: for example, the plastic was polyvinyl whic is relatively porous to moisture and oxygen. DVD/CD?BD are made of polycarbonate, which isn't.
@jjlloyd8017
@jjlloyd8017 3 года назад
I have CDs that I bought in the 1980s that are still perfectly fine. Just take care of your stuff, and it'll be fine.
@LILGHETTI
@LILGHETTI 3 года назад
I've seen couple of bootleg discs that have this issue would happen to it! My oldest blu-ray is from 2007, and still works perfectly!
@paul8926
@paul8926 3 года назад
Yes, definitely on bootleg discs. I’ve experienced laser rot on a couple of my laserdiscs, and a few on my DVDs, but it’s very rare.
@Vegasguy79
@Vegasguy79 3 года назад
@@paul8926 It’s not really a rare issue with LaserDiscs. Whether it significantly affects you really just depends on movies you have in your collection and the manufacturers who made them.
@AlSumait
@AlSumait 3 года назад
I got dvds from 1999 and they play perfectly 🙂
@JamesLawner
@JamesLawner 3 года назад
I have some bootleg discs and when I checked them, they looked fine and I got them around 2006-2007.
@alaricjeard269
@alaricjeard269 3 года назад
i have about 200 medias, DVD, Blu-Ray, PS1, PS2, CD-Rom, etc etc. Since 1997, only one rot, a pc game, only 5 years after purchase, to me, because poor manufacturing...
@kevinnazario1015
@kevinnazario1015 Год назад
I keep lossing dvds and games. Over 30 in the last 5 years. They are stored in my living room. No strong change in heat or humidity. I dont buy anymore. This keeps happening. Just mention some of the ones I have lost, Shogun miniseries( 3 out of 4 discs) original back to the future DVD release. All 3 discs. Inherit the wind, fly boys, Tucker, over the top, the order, equilibrium, date night, tango & cash, Battlestar Galactica razor. In PS3 games mini ninjas, iron man and Gundam destiny warriors 2. This is real. No freaking joke.
@koigoi
@koigoi 3 года назад
So far, I have one PS1 Disc and four PC CD-Rs with disc rot. All of them being some of the newest discs in my arsenel. Need For Speed: V-Rally (PS1 Game) Need For Speed IV: High Stakes (PC) Need For Speed: Porsche Unleashed (PC) Sonic Heroes Disc 2 (PC) HotWheels: World Race (PC) None of them have physical holes in them, but the data is missing and/or corrupted. All of those PC games used to work. When I got them as a kid, I was able to finish their installations, but not as of late. I bought V-RALLY used, but there's no visible damage on the disc, so idk.
@michaeldietz2648
@michaeldietz2648 2 года назад
I’ve been collecting movies on DVD since they first launched about 20 years ago and I have well over 1000 movies across DVD Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray, I have only experienced one DVD not working correctly anymore. The odds of this happening Are ridiculously low
@karanvirkooner1993
@karanvirkooner1993 3 года назад
I take steps to make sure that problem doesn’t happen
@RandomPerson69_420
@RandomPerson69_420 2 года назад
Personally I would rather take the risk of data rot than the risk of my movies disappearing off a digital store front
@Martin-gf1hh
@Martin-gf1hh 3 года назад
Member the days of VHS tapes when people put them on their car’s dash and they would just warp and bend in all kinds of funky ways.
@gerardomartinez2223
@gerardomartinez2223 3 года назад
Disc Rot is a thing??? Despite I barely touch my discs because of digital codes but when I do I've never had a problem. I'll touch my physical discs like 2-3 times a year.
@donjaun540
@donjaun540 3 года назад
I hope I don't get disk rot. I have 4k movies and about 600 CDs. I have not seen yet. I wonder if it's a like transferable to other disk. Masks for my movies. 😲😯
@BigPauly
@BigPauly 3 года назад
I have DVDs that are 24 years old and look as new now as when I bought them. As long as they’re kept in room temperature you have nothing to worry about.
@neerdlanivrehk7084
@neerdlanivrehk7084 3 года назад
What's the best room temperature? I have some DVDs that have this problem
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 3 года назад
1 in "literally a billion?" I bought a DVD copy of Pincess Mononoke that was pristine and it _immediately_ did not work. When I tried to return it they told me that I could not return a defective copy if it had already been opened, because America, and because morons. A few weeks ago I tried to watch my DVDs of Samurai Jack and two of the episodes won't play on disc 1, the last time I watched it was roughly 2 years ago, they had not been touched since then. If I struck "literally 1 in a billion" odds twice I should play the lottery.
@theatomicpunkkid
@theatomicpunkkid 3 года назад
Crap also try replacing that samurai Jack DVD at this point. Happy hunting. I'm being dead serious I wish you good luck finding one.
@theatomicpunkkid
@theatomicpunkkid 3 года назад
I literally bought a crap ton of used CDs at different flea markets in the yard sales and that's most of my collection cuz I'm not a big fan of the latest remasterings and what the guy just described about the graying discs has me very concerned. Some of them I stupidly paid well more than I would have really liked to because they kept saying these are rare discs. I thought the sound quality on a lot of them was because of the pressing or maybe the age of the desk but now I'm not so sure.
@davidstring8301
@davidstring8301 Год назад
My WB HD-DVDs developed disc rot rather quickly. I have several unplayable discs.
@sstjacques
@sstjacques 28 дней назад
I have a bunch of DVD's that fell victim to disk rot, even new un scratched.
@JoEs_Do9
@JoEs_Do9 3 года назад
I been collecting DVD , video games , cd and other stuff I never had this problem
@DivineKnight_115
@DivineKnight_115 3 года назад
Yeah it seems like disk rot like most things are caused by manufacture defects and people who don’t treat their disks well...
@jamesgarrison7397
@jamesgarrison7397 3 года назад
I have about 1,200 discs and I have only had an issue with 2, both were replaced by the manufacture, so I don't think it is a huge issue either.
@joelvynermusic
@joelvynermusic 3 года назад
out of over 2000 cds iv got maybe under 40 discs tha have a slight disc hole issue but they still play well not problems so fare with playback
@ms.pirate
@ms.pirate 2 года назад
3:38 had that happen too me once with the wiiu version of breath of the wild, the game store replaced it for me no questions asked (not gonna say its name, because they are getting worse. but its the one we all hate but still buy from em)
@JG-pj3bg
@JG-pj3bg 11 месяцев назад
I’ve been collecting cds dvds blu rays and 4K since the 80’s and have never had a disc do that
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes 10 месяцев назад
It depends on a lot of factors. Do the discs get exposed to humidity? UV radiation? High temperatures?
@chrisd6736
@chrisd6736 3 года назад
All my dad’s CDs from 30 years ago still work fine. Disc rot is supposedly much more rare for new formats including blu rays and 4K blu rays because of better manufacturing techniques.
@speedythecat07
@speedythecat07 3 года назад
My wife and I have been media hoarders since CDs in the mid 80’s. We collect records, CDs, DVD and Bluray including 4K. I have never lost a single disc to rot. I have seen it though, having been thru a million flea mkt and yard sale trips. I’d say about 50% were purchased new, the rest on the secondary market. At this point we have an 11 room house and let me warn everyone, managing a huge collection, well just be careful what you wish for lol. It can take over your house, and your life if you let it. On the flip side of that coin I’ll say I’ve been isolating at home since the virus hit and there are times I feel like a genius, because if I didn’t have my collection to occupy me all this time, I would have gone crazy. I can say we aren’t just hoarders, we truly love physical media and use it every single day. Starting to feel like it wouldn’t be a dumb idea to purchase a few high end players to store away for the future. I have some decent equipment, but the transports and lasers I hear can get scarce years after a model goes out of production. I think right now it’s more a problem with higher end gear by smaller companies that come and go. I’m a worrier, wish I wasn’t. Great video, I agree with everything you said. I’m not concerned about the rot at all. I was aware of it, and I have passed on many second hand CDs that I shopped in person because of it, or being what I call “cheese grated” where it looks like somebody purposely put the underside of the disc on asphalt and just went to town on it. CDs and DVDs are delicate. Even more so than records. I say if you love physical media, let your freak flag fly. A final warning... Do NOT recommend the huge binder books that hold discs. Seems like a wonderful idea, but it wasn’t for me. I’m in the process of making a dedicated movie room, I had 10 of the huge books, just for things I didn’t use much. I also saved every insert card/ title card in a box like 20+ pounds of title cards. I just bought a huge amount of new cases so I could put them back together to display. Even though every book was labeled as a stand alone genre, that was of little help. It was a complete nightmare matching discs to their cards and putting them back together to display now that we have a larger house. Nightmare, complete utter nightmare. I’d rather be raped by Bigfoot then do that again. Those books suck. We did it out of necessity at the time living in a smaller house. Never ever again. I don’t know anyone that ever wants to flip thru those books looking for something to watch. Physical media collections in excess of 10,000 discs are not a lot of fun managing. Yet, mine is still growing because I can’t stop. Truly a curse and a blessing. Take care!
@discharge2331
@discharge2331 Год назад
I stored my cd wallet in a greenhouse for a week when i became homeless and every single copied disc started to peel and flake away with a type of mould growing inbetween the layers 😢
@justmike2944
@justmike2944 3 года назад
I have a huge collection of cassettes ......Do i have to worry about tapeworms ??
@InimicusSolitus
@InimicusSolitus Год назад
I have a copy of Reservoir Dogs that has turned "bronze", and will not play.
@christophera.turner3394
@christophera.turner3394 3 года назад
The majority of my HDDVD from Warner Brothers has disk rot and makes it unusable.
@robertt9342
@robertt9342 3 года назад
Losing the format war certainly doesn't help.
@outdoorsjoe
@outdoorsjoe 3 года назад
Yep. It sucks. So many movies that I have no longer play.
@chrisward000
@chrisward000 3 года назад
Same here. Apparently there was a process problem in manufacturing so almost all WB HDDVDs were affected. Discs form other studios survived, but by the ice this became well known, HDDVD was dead and gone. I managed to rip most of them and burn to BD-R. Also had a couple of DVDs where it happened and these were also due to documented manufacturing errors in certain batches only.
@captaincid6488
@captaincid6488 2 года назад
I have CDs manufactured as early as 1983. They are in good shape and have experienced no rot. It's all about taking care of your stuff.
@Old_SnakeTwitch
@Old_SnakeTwitch 3 года назад
Ive never seen any disc with rot in my life, and i love my medias.. i wonder if this is less of a problem in non super hot places like canada or something
@Critic_Chris90210
@Critic_Chris90210 3 года назад
Im more concerned about them getting rid of DVDs & Blu-rays because everyone seems to go to streaming now. I like both but unlike streaming services, dvds and blu-rays give the deleted scenes, alternate endings,etc. Stuff worth buying on disc while on streaming services you could be starting to binge watch a show for the first time you like and before you know it, they cancel out the show and let you keep it in your watchlist. It can happen at anytime, any movie/show series, any streaming service you suscribe to. So, if i had to pick one of the other, im all DVD/Blu-ray.
@Longlostpuss
@Longlostpuss 3 года назад
Keep them in their cases or boxes air tight in a dry place, don't let moisture and damp get onto them for any period of time and there shouldn't be an issue. I have CD's that are 20 years old that are as good as the day I bought them. You'd have to be operating at some level of negligence with your things to let this happen, you'd have to almost be looking to make it happen at this point.
@dravenlee4473
@dravenlee4473 3 года назад
The only disc rot I've experienced has been from burned discs in the early days of CD-Rs and some low quality bootlegs that turned bronze (still played). It can certainly happen but as long as you take care of your discs and there isn't a manufacturing problem, there isn't much to worry about much like the video discusses.
@Themartinezjoeshow
@Themartinezjoeshow 3 года назад
Only had one disc ever get disc rot. An was in a TV show set that I bought on ebay.
@donnellcoleman7784
@donnellcoleman7784 3 года назад
EBay suck
@ScottMurphy76
@ScottMurphy76 3 года назад
I’ve never once worried about disc rot. I’ve also never experienced it in 30 years. It doesn’t seem that common to me.
@behindthescenesphotos5133
@behindthescenesphotos5133 3 года назад
I've got CDs from 1983 that still play
@GeekTheGecko
@GeekTheGecko 3 года назад
Cleaning up my game collection tonight. When I open my Rogue Galaxy copy for PS2, and turned the disc, I saw smudge marks on the outer circle of disc and scratch-like stains in the innermost circle. Instantly, disc rot came to my mind. I bought the game few years ago as sealed, I opened it but never put in the console. So I put it, just to make sure it's playing and shockingly, it did not. I was devastated and put the game away from my collection and deleted it from my game collection excel list. But it bugged me, does disc rot really looked like this? So I searched online, how to clean up PS2 discs, and I stumbled a WikiHow article, it said spray the disc with a deodorant and clean it up with lintless fabric immediately - but with a fair warning that depends on what deodorant you use, it may render your disc unplayable ever again. So I sprayed deodorant to my disc, and clean it up with a glass cleaner fabric-thinking the game does not play, what could I even lose? Disc cleaned up, shiny as a glass. Put the game on my console and voila! It plays perfectly. I started to watch this video in a moment of desperation thinking it was disc rot, that this could happen any other game in my collection and I should inspect every single one of them in +600 games. After all, it revealed as wasn't disc rot, but I find your insight extremely thought provoking. Good job.
@donnellcoleman7784
@donnellcoleman7784 3 года назад
I have movies since the 70s & still collecting
@keithm4953
@keithm4953 3 года назад
I have over 500 laserdiscs, maybe 1% show rot due to manufacturing defects. Can't say I've ever experienced it with other optical discs, I think they're made with high QC standards!
@r.morris5589
@r.morris5589 Год назад
I have 40 year old VHS out lasting 5 year old DVD's
@owomushi_vr
@owomushi_vr 23 дня назад
Hd-dvd disc rot is a feature for Warner Brothers discs
@mousey31
@mousey31 3 года назад
Some Warner bros HDDVD'S were well known for having disc rot.
@MrRom92DAW
@MrRom92DAW 3 года назад
The thing to watch out for is recordable media. Cd-R, DVD-R, etc. they are rotting away as we speak due to the data being burned in an organic dye layer. Pressed CDs are generally not gonna have an issue with rot, though discs manufactured by PDO UK in the mid-80s to early 90’s tend to be very problematic. Basically guaranteed to be rotten. Dual layer DVDs (or those horrible double sided DVDs that were common in the early days of the format) can delaminate over time, but I really don’t know anyone who cares about anything on dvd, everything’s on Blu ray these days...
@brianng8350
@brianng8350 3 года назад
This is too far ahead. My fear is my VHS collection...dust particles and crumbling of the tape inside. Have some DVDs with skipping and shutting off the player, but that is more manufacturing issues than age.
@GIANTKAIJU
@GIANTKAIJU 3 года назад
Funny thing, I just experienced this recently. I bought 3 seasons of the tv show "Just shoot me", watched the discs once at time of purchase like 8 years ago and they've been sitting on my book shelf ever since. Away from sun, air conditioned. Well, I decided to revisit them recently and to my surprise I pull out discs one and two of season 1 and they both look screwed up. Like not scratches, but like the silver ink of the disc is all swirly and weird. Season 3 also had a disc that looks like it's getting hazy splotches. Anybody else experience this? I think it was shoddy manufacturing. Or can maybe unwiped fingerprints cause mold or deterioration after years?
@darthqui-gon5986
@darthqui-gon5986 3 года назад
I have CDs over 30 years old that still look brand new. And DVD'S, like the Star Wars prequel trilogy, like look brand new and play perfectly and are still nice and clear on a 4K TV. And cds still sound new. As well as blurays. I think it's all the way you take care of your things.
@3wA_TroCon
@3wA_TroCon 3 года назад
I would like studios to start utilizing M-DISC Blu-ray discs as M-DISC uses rock-like materials instead of the traditional organic dye to store the data. M-DISC claims the data stored on their discs will last 1,000 years! They offer 25, 50 & 100 GB capacity discs.
@TheOff1ceFan
@TheOff1ceFan 2 года назад
Been collecting the past 15 years, and I’ve literally never seen this.
@RPKGameVids
@RPKGameVids 3 года назад
I've been buying discs for more than 20 years, and have hundreds. The only problems I've encountered is my copy of Resident Evil Code Veronica for the Dreamcast, which did work perfectly, but then it just ended up stopping working, the disc still looks perfect, I've tried it on another Dreamcast and it still doesn't work. I've got no idea what is going on, and whether it has anything to do with disc rot. Then there was a Dreamcast disc that I had kept in the attic for a few years, when pulling it out, on the readable side of it I was surprised to see what look like small ring shaped water marks. I've tried cleaning them off but they wont come off, it's almost as though they might be under the plastic or in the plastic, I'm not sure if it still works, and I'm not sure if this is rot or not. And then lastly my copy of Sonic Adventure for the Dreamcast, and a CD cleaning disc have developed one or two small holes on the label sides, as though the label has chipped/been scraped away, again, don't know if this is disc rot. All of my other discs are fine.
@doctorsmoothlove
@doctorsmoothlove 3 года назад
Thanks for not having the intro song. That plays too loudly and then I have to adjust the volume.
@Megatron-xs2qe
@Megatron-xs2qe 3 года назад
Didn’t know that disc’s rot, since I’ve never seen this on any of my dvds
@Achtungworld1
@Achtungworld1 3 года назад
Well Jeff. Long time viewer, first time commenting. I would certainly put out there to people that Disc rot isn't as common as it was with the likes of Laser disc and early DVD. The coating is different today. I agree with you on the advances of technology out dating the format. I myself, last month had to buy a new blu ray player after the one I had for 11 years had become out dated by newly released blu ray titles. The likes being distributed by Indicator and Eureka. You couldn't get picture, only the main menu with the sound of the film. The companies describe the discs as. "High bit rate discs". It's likely as well that T.V.s won't have HDMI or 4K outputs in the Future, much like scart. I would say this is where the real risk is with a vast collection. I can't justify signing up to every streaming service as they don't have everything you want and it's likely to be taken down at some point. Putting into consideration of the cost of these services as well. Once they get enough subscribers they increase the price annually. It's like paying for a film that you already have 10 times over. Don't worry people, disc rot is the least of your worries here.
@andykishore
@andykishore 2 года назад
Some say disc rot can take anywhere of 25 to 100 years to take effect, but physical media DVDs have not been around long enough to know otherwise.
@sundaypikachu1844
@sundaypikachu1844 3 года назад
I used to burn thousands of DVDs, and disc rot was a concern because the layers that are burned are chemicals. Retail Blu-rays and DVDs are pressed like you said. You don't have to worry about the chemicals breaking down due to age, light, normal heat, etc. It really depends on how the manufacturers make them. You expect them to be hermetically sealed, but you still shouldn't wash them. Only a little alcohol (not dry wipe cloths which scratch the plastic surface).
@r.morris5589
@r.morris5589 Год назад
Manufacture disc are not reliable. I have had way to many just stop working.
@richardwagner33
@richardwagner33 3 года назад
Disc rot does exist but it’s extremely rare. The examples featured in Jeff’s video are of the extreme nature to say the least. I’ve never seen it that bad so what on earth the owners of those discs have done to them is beyond me 🤷🏻‍♂️ The first time I ever came across this was when the original Terminator was released on DVD, so we’re going back 20 years or so. That was down to a storage issue. The disc kinda went cloudy and wouldn’t play. In fact barring one issue that was a reaction to the plastic case the issues have all been involving storage during the manufacture process. In all cases the discs go cloudy and are rendered unplayable. Like I said it’s a rare issue and I wouldn’t worry too much. Chances are you’ll maybe get one or even two. It happens with a DVD more than anything. I had it with an Original XBOX game once but again DVD style disc format. Never seen it with a CD or a blu-ray disc and chances are never will do.
@One-Day-After-Another
@One-Day-After-Another Год назад
I have literally never seen a disc do this....I'm kind of a collector but not like some people are...I think it must have everything to do with climate control and where you store them...I never willy nilly just get lazy and leave things out because I'm a clean freak....so it's either IN the player or in its case... I don't have a storage shelf. I keep them in a hope chest
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes 10 месяцев назад
It does. Humidity, disc getting wet, UV radiation, all those have an effect.
@tombutler6451
@tombutler6451 3 года назад
I’ve got 35 year old CD’s which are all perfect like you say as long they are stored sensibly no issues 👍🏻
@Whalewraith
@Whalewraith 3 года назад
Had a several dvds fail to this, certain brands especially early pornos seem to have been produced on the cheapest discs known to man.
@davidho2977
@davidho2977 3 года назад
I would have said "A friend told me that some of his early pornos have rotted."
@movieflicktube
@movieflicktube 3 года назад
I have CDs from 1983. Still play perfectly. Keep your fingers off disc surfaces . Never clean as it scratches the surfaces . I’d be more worried about finding a blu ray player in a few years from now .... Many Disney Touchstone laserdiscs had laser rot . The Japanese laserdiscs I have - the complete Lost In Space , still play perfectly . That’s quality . I’ve never cleaned any of my discs . If you keep your fingers off the data side they should play for years . Yes, sometimes there are manufacturing grit problems with mainly covers . Inspect discs when you buy them . I hold every disc under a light and look for dirt etc . But NEVER wipe the disc surface as it causes minute scratches on the surface no matter how good the cleaning cloth . Dust and manufacturing grit can easily be blown off . NEVER ever rotate discs in their clamps . I see so many people unboxing blu rays and the first thing they do is rotate the discs in the covers - or worse , lay them on display on a dusty table lol
@56postoffice
@56postoffice 3 года назад
First I hear of this. I've collected DVDs nearly 20 years, never seen these. Even on my CDs.
@bloodwireradio4556
@bloodwireradio4556 3 года назад
At 47 minutes this video had 1.2k views, that's over 25.5 views every minute and 1 view every 2 seconds if I did my math correctly. Jeff, your channel is kicking ass and I'm so happy to see it :)
@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo 3 года назад
Thanks man. I’m so happy for all the support
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