Thomas the party will always be around now more than ever with social media holding the reigns. every crackpot idea will be around forever, its like herding cats as they say.
@@lindamcguigan5989 Of course it an will always be on the agenda there have been people wanting a seperate Scotland for hundreds of years and there will always be that desire in another 300 years time.
Corruption, top to bottom. Sturgeon was not a good leader and her husband is complicit in the misappropriation of thousands of pounds. It must lead to an arrest surely. Now, expenditure is being investigated, the question is where does Yusef stand in this disgrace.
Very strange as all the SNP supporters I know still support them. Red Tories getting voted in Scotland will not happen. Majority of Scottish people want a Scottish party and not one that is controlled from down South.
snp have a fanatical following, theyve shown no sign of competence, but have successfully scapegoated all of their own mistakes onto the evil english. scottish voters should put their country first not their ideologically motivated spite for the english. like they are willing to self harm, just so it hurts the english too. They dont seem to acknowledge that the scottish governments job is to govern scotland, if they want to decide constitutional matters then they need to win a UK majority, otherwise its not their concern. as a factory worker you cant dictate who owns the factory, you must first buy the factory. nationalists seem to think that the job of the scottish government is independance not to govern scotland.
Devolution has been a failure. Our country is far worse off on every metric you wish to mention than we were 20 years ago. We should close Holyrood and hand back decision making to Westminster who can easily make just as bad or even maybe good decisions on our behalf. Holyrood costs the Scottish taxpayer £600 million a year to run and administer. £600 million a year wasted, down the drain with a result of a worsening situation year after year. Where can anyone argue a case for continuing this farce. Examples of Holyrood waste, Nicola Sturgeon has a chief of staff on £100,000 per year !, her entire team of 'advisers' now totals 24 people. This is more people than BBC Scotland has reporters. Jeeezzzz. SHUT IT NOW !
Not true. Against our human rights not to have adequate access to democracy in our country. It doesn't it costs £100 million a year. Again, Scotland would not have adequate human rights without access to democracy within its own country. & that we could sue the UK government for its lack of human rights provision.
Les G we could rent out Holyrood complete with Staff as required as Offices, on long or short Term Leases, just think of all the money saved that could be going into the Country instead of getting squandered .
@@douglastodd1947 You want to get rid of democracy in Scotland in favour of Westminster & 20 minutes a year of questions on Scotland like before Scotland didn't have democracy in its own country ?
Time for a change. Ask yourself what have we gained under the SNP ?? Absolutely nothing. Time for a change. Get rid of this independence nonsense. Use the uk government to better Scotland. And i mean use it !!!
LOL. Westminster has blamed the EU, the Germans, the French, the Irish, the disabled, single mothers, the out of work, immigrants, asylum seekers, Remainers and just about every marginalised group they can think of!
The SNP is completely responsible for everything right AND wrong in scotland. They have been in power and holding hte purse strings for donkey's years.
A drop in membership does not necessarily coralate to a drop in support for independence, but an inditement of loss of respect and faith in the leadership of SNP
@@kalekold The UK made cost of living crisis is likely a factor UK Consumer Price Index Annual Inflation Rates (published by the UK's ONS) 129,4% inflation rate on Gas prices 66,7% inflation rate on Electricity prices 17% inflation rate on Food prices 11,8% inflation rate on Housing costs 10,8% inflation on Restaurants & Hotels costs 9,2% inflation rate on Household Goods & Furniture 6,2% inflation rate on Clothing & Footwear 5,2% inflation rate on Alcohol & Tobacco 5% inflation rate on Recreation & Culture 3,4% inflation rate on Transport costs
Labour has lost its scottish MPs to the SNP because of the sucess of the SNP - the SNP's descent into irrelevance will inevitably translate into more Labour MPS, unless you think Scotland is about to vote tory?
@@occamraiser Best social contract in the UK with the Snp in Government. Scotland won't be voting labour as it puts the social contract at risk of being lowered and Scotland would have to lower its standard of living via voting labour.
@@occamraiser I also won't be voting for any Torie light labour party or for a ''Sir'' a placeman of the British State, the class system, also won't be voting labour so they can go to war where 19 scots soldiers died last time for labour's illegal war.
@@occamraiser The SNP is on the brink of a new revival! Our young team is fired up and and have no truck with right wing Colonel Blimps and worshipers of sadistic bronze age sky daddies. By what weird logic do you think the SNP will become irrelevant 🤔 Or are you just a blinkered yoontard?
@@davidh.5204 Scotland occupies about one-third of the landmass of the UK, has few cities, over ninety inhabited islands but a mere thirteenth of the population. Inevitably it must therefore have higher running costs _per person_ than much of the rest of the UK in just the same way that Northumbria receives more funding _per person_ than Islington. The Barnett Formula accommodates this. Given the refusal of the current Scottish Parliament to concentrate on making Scotland more competitive in Europe and the wider world it doesn't bode well for an independent nation.
Extreme and damaging "zero carbon" taxation and "climate lockdowns" (in the guise of 15 minute cities) is the realistic outcome of Scottish independence, for a percentage of people this is abhorrent and will factor this into which way they vote
This shows how good sturgeon was, she has jumped at just the right time knowing what is happening with the party. She has left in a see of glory and not under defeat. I think the SNP will go and the Alba Party. The problem is the SNP when it started was like UKIP it has one goal and that’s to obtain independence. That’s not happened but they have had to govern for 20 years and they have clearly shown they cannot do it. Labour is the way forward for Scotland now
I'm technically speaking not too surprised by this implosion of the SNP. I suppose that it was inevitable. Like a submarine which had been depth charged. A loss of ability to resurface and going deeper and deeper has led to the hull imploding. I believe that it could mean problems for them for decades to come.
Executive resignations over the years didn't implode the Torie and Labour parties UK Conservative Party UK Labour Party Nadhim Zahawi 2022-2023 Anneliese Dodds 2021- Jake Berry 2022-2022 Angela Rayner 2020-2021 Andy Stephenson 2022-2022 Ian Lavery 2017-2020 Oliver Dowden 2021-2022 Tom Watson 2015-2017 Amanda Milling 2020-2021 Harriet Harman 2007-2015 James Cleverly 2019-2020 Hazel Blears 2006-2007 Ben Elliot 2019-2022 Ian McCartney 2003-2006 Brandon Lewis 2018-2019 John Reid 2002-2003 Pat McLoughlin 2016-2018 Charles Clarke 2001-2002 Grant Shapps 2015-2016 Baroness Warsi 2010-2012 Lord Elstree 2010-2016 Eric Pickles 2009-2010 Carol Spelman 2007-2009 Francis Maude 2005-2007 Liam Fox 2003-2005 Theresa May 2002-2003 David Davis 2001-2002 Lord Ancram 1998-2001
The submarine is ousting the NEC through the torpedo tubes. The stink is being dealt with. A new crew and captain, in readiness, with the full backing of an electorate hungry for change.
Actually no! But I do have a better than average understanding of naval tactics. I just simply do know that hull implosion was a distinct and real possibility in submarine and the anti strategies to deal with it. The analogy fits the SNP complication totally. But it's not confined to the SNP - Also, the Conservative Party generally has the same problematic difficulties with this as well. We are seeing hull weaknesses in both the SNP in general and in the Conservatives as well! Patently unavoidable. And the conclusion is the same.
@@rosita3528 The Common Travel Area was created in 1923. Members of the CTA are UK Nations Rep of Ireland Isle of Man Guernsey Jersey An Independent Scotland would not effect the CTA.
@@ScottishRoss27 nobody cares. You talk for a minority while the silent majority have been telling you for months. We do not want the SNP and we do not want independence
I detest Douglas Ross, but I will never vote for any political party with a non-British leader. Labour and the SNP have given me and thousands of others no choice. My country is for my people. Not foreigners.
Perhaps get Westminster to stop blaming refugees in small boats, immigrants, asylum seekers, Remainers, the EU, the French, the Irish, the Germans, the disabled, the unemployed and then we can talk.
Unsure what all the fuss is about,the English seem more worried about the Scots leaving than the Scots,if they want to go,go.....England needs to find its backbone,an independent England could be a very rich country.
Labour gave us the NHS, Minimum wage, Winter fuel allowance, Free TV licence for over seventies. Free bus travel for pensioners, kept the Clyde and Rosyth shipyards open. More than the Scottish Nazis ever did.
The SNP are having a leadership election and all the unionist news outlets just say 'look they are imploding'. It desperate stuff. Keir Starmer is just as unpopular as the Tories up here. 😂😂
None of them are fit to lead. Every party has some good ideas and some good people. Unfortunately they are few and scattered. It is a pity that they can't be picked out solely
The problem of the junta parties are not fit to be elected, they are desperate getting the polis in. How did Scotland become part of this Union what no referendums, 66% of seats, In 2015 96% of seats and 52% of the popular vote 🗳 is no enuff. Where was the polis, when the junta slaughtered 100million folks
Unfortunately, SNP support will not fall greatly. The reason that people vote SNP is because they believe in independence. The quality of the SNP in governing is completely irrelevant. Supporters of independence will vote SNP no matter what
Sturgeon destroyed Scotland in every way possible and always blamed Westminster for her own failures won’t take much for labour to win in Scotland in councils election and indeed in 2024 general election
has Labour got a Party in Scotland I honestly wouldn't know a Labour Thing if i fell over them , saying that i wouldn't Recognise any Politicians apart from Krankie, Swinney , Ross , Smith , Kerr ,,that's about it everyone of them Useless.
@@Pipsicle330 Best social contract anywhere in the UK. Tell me how labour are going better it? Scotland is best to vote snp to keep the social contract rather than put it at risk of being lowered via voting Labour.
Why dont we investigate all of wastemonster ,re partygate ,ppe, the overspend on the frigates, the non functionality of two aircraft carriers,artificial fuel hiking etc etc
Their is no implosion for independance in Scotland, the SNP. Maybe but the people still want independance. Labour are dead in Scotland. If Scottish Labour got behind independance, maybe people get behind them that's a big but The Labour Party are a Centarist party the red Tories
You would not need to be very good to be better than Nicola Sturgeon. I can't understand why anyone thinks she was anything other than a disaster for the people of Scotland.
Every public service in Scotland is far superior to its counterpart in England. Nicola has done a fantastic job. The top 20 most impoverished towns in the Uk are all in northern England. Why would anybody vote for an English political party ?
@@stephenfarthing3819 Not really ! In England the government look after the already wealthy. In Scotland the government look after the poorest in society. Two diametric outlooks. The 20 poorest towns in the Uk are all in the north of England. The south east of England is the wealthiest area. Priorities, feed the rich and starve the poor in England.
Let me correct one thing! I said BOTH countries! Implosion is nonetheless true. Problems exist everywhere! Even in places where it's improving - those difficulties remain, and under similar conditions. Say what you want - but do not deny fact!
Scotland's home is part of the UK. This brings huge benefits for us all. A seat at the table of G7, G20, Council of Europe, protection from NATO, 6th biggest economy in the world. A strong devolved Parliament. A major International currency. Borderless trade with our biggest market in England. Deep cultural, social and family ties. A shared history of sacrifice fighting fascism in Europe. Breaking up the World's most successful 300 year old Union would ruin us all.
That was all true in 2014 but a lot has changed then. We’ve lost EU membership and access to the single market and are on track to withdraw from the European Court of Human Rights. The UK economy is stagnant because of Brexit and is likely to slip behind the Western European economies. The English government is rife with corruption and lawbreaking.
TrussellTrust Food Bank Network end of year stats 2021/2022 UK 2,173,158 Scotland 197,037 = increase of 23,9% 2016/2017 UK 1,201,286 Scotland 150,094 Within UK why are more & more Scots having to use food banks if the UK is so successful, major economy, prosperous, happy & glorious ?
@@stephenobrien3405 If you are worried about paying the bills...you won't be voting for Independance. The Nats can't even tell you what currency you would use.
I agree with Chris but I have to disagree with him on the General Election year, since March of 2022, the next GE has been scheduled for January 2025., instead of May 2024.
Don't hold your breath the Scots are mad enough to keep voting for them. 14 years in power and have destroyed Scotland. You have to be mad to vote SNP sadly the Scots are.
Labour won't find a majority in Scotland even if the SNP disapear. If that happened then we would simply move to another socialist party .Labour at one time had the helm in Scotland .when it was a socialist party .but most Scots want independence and those that don't still vote SNP cos we want socialism .nicola never lost the faith of thee people .but nothing will ever be so bad that Scots would turn to a right wing Labour party
We heard the same “peak SNP” and “SNP civil war” after the independence referendum of 2014, the EU vote in 2016, after the Salmond trial, during Sturgeon’s testimony when accused of breaking the ministerial code and at various other points of their 15 year tenure. Heard it ALL before!
He would’ve been great but he already said he won’t be running as his wife has not long had a baby and he didn’t think he could be a good dad, husband and first minister all at once and something would have to give. He would’ve had my vote had he been in contention.
When we got married in the 60s both of our parents were heavily involved in the Scottish Labour party. The way things are going with the New Labour party they will be turning in their graves. There is no way the Scottish people will ever turn back to Labour. They are finished in Scotland. Mrs Helen Pate.
@@bcanuck All parties accounts are audited & published annually by the UK Electoral Commission and they have not found any missing money. With the anti snp campaign, Facts like that are out the window and don't seem to matter.
@ScottishRoss . Auditing and investigating are two completely different things investigators go in unannounced close everything down and investigate, auditors check figures given,
The problem I have with Labour strategy is that it seems to mostly consist on their opponents, north or south of the border, seriously fkn up. Just because that seems to have happened both N and S does not mean they'll actually be any good for anyone.
idk man i want to have faith in them for the good of the whole of britain. i really hope the go ahead with there plans for further devolution so scotlands has more power and westminister has less because the uk revolves around london and the south east and it really needs to change.
Polling last week showed 52% in favour of independence and 25% of Scottish Labour voters would vote for an independent Scotland given the chance. All that will happen is deluded SNP voters will gravitate to Alex Salmond and ALBA. There is not a chance of Labour gaining a majority in Scotland.
I'm very unsurprised anyone of the SNP inability to plan how to achieve that purpose! I suspect that the neglected communities have reacted to the same lacks that have typifies them.
I find this coverage rather one sided and not in line with what I usually see from Times radio. Having an BBC man and a writer for a London based political newsmagazine as the two guests is very poor. Even if someone from the SNP was not available, I'm sure you could of found someone to balance the debate.
No - the majority of SNP voters dont interest themselves in whats going on they just keep doing what they did the last time and dont ask any questions - people are afraid of change in case they end up a few quid worse of and i can understand that - so its SNP for a long time yet
Scottish Labour can only overtake the SNP by supporting Scottish independence. Nearly half the country support constitutional change there is no other way. But they’d rather keep their Westminster gravy flowing.
@@ParcelOfRogue Cost of Living Tenant Protection Scotland Act 2022 private rent rises capped at 3% moratorium on evictions extended protections extended until September 2023 powers to extend protections for further 6 month periods Water Charges None Directly Prescription Charges Free Road/Bridge Toll Charges None University Tuition Free to Scots Scottish Baby Box over 250k given to Parents since 2017 Scottish Child Payment extended to 100 a month Free Early Learning & Childcare 30 hours per week Free School Meals Primary 1 to 5 Free National Bus Travel for Under 22's started in January 2022 Birth Registrations Scotland Finland 2022 46,959 44,933 2021 47,786 49,594 2020 46,809 46,463 2019 49,863 45,613 = 191,417 186,603 Employment February 2023 Women Men Scotland 76,5% 2,742m 75% 1,376m 78% 1,367m Finland 71,9% 2,558m 71,4% 1,235m 72,4% 1,323m Starting Salary Scotland Finland Teacher 35,753 27,887 Nurse 30,229 22,520 Police Officer 28,074 20,718 New Housing Completions/Starts in 2021/22 Scotland 39,439 Finland 37,434 Number of Entrants to University in 2022 Scots Born 33,880 Finnish Born 32,700 Recorded Crime Stats in 2021/22 Scotland 287,678 Finland 473,100
Can we get this right. The only reason SNP get power is because the unionist vote is split. They never get a majority. They get power with around 32% of vote. If the unionist vote was for one party, they'd never be in power..
@@pauls3204 Sorry, 32% of the electorate. I read it's 45% (down 5% on previous election) and a 63.5% turnout. So roughly 20% of voters. Alex Salmond got around 90% for referendum. Pity all elections weren't like that.
Time Radio another Unit Part of Tory Propaganda UK Print, Radio & TV. Johnston has just been condemned by UK Parliament and this is your top subject. As said part of Tory Propaganda machine
@@ScottishRoss27 the UK government saved Scotland from the gender Bill that would allow male rapists into female prisons. And that same bill woke the Scots up and finally made them destroy Sturgeon and now we've got rid of Murrel. The SNP aren't wanted so on yer bike pal
Valid point! Recovering from the pandemic is likely to take a lot more time. We are all in it's own aftermath. Both England and Scotland must get out of these problems. The NHS in Scotland, has similar difficulty in this instance. And in the same way as anywhere else in the British Isles.
Alba will probably pick up the SNP leavers which is where Albas membership comes from just now mostly all ex-SNP who never agreed with the SNP cabal in place.
Then we shall see Alba in around 50 to 60 years when they make a breakthrough into mainstream as that's how long it took the Snp and Greens for example
@@ScottishRoss27 it was never coming from the SNP leaders that are still there just now. Huge clean out needed at the top how that happens I don't know. But how the electoral commission haven't got involved so far is a total mystery.The income has remained the same despite a fall of over 40% of its membership since 2019??
No! The people of Scotland won't forget them standing side by side with the Tories on the better together platform. As Joann Lamont said "We're just a branch office of London" 🏴