Could Modern Militaries Beat THE FLOOD? (Halo) 

Answer me honestly - Could you survive a Flood outbreak were it to happen today?

We are 100% getting overwhelmed, the disease would be an unknown to us and we wouldnt be sure how to properly quarantine something like that as quickly as it would require

If the unsc, covenant, and forerunners couldn't beat them, I dont think we have a chance in hell

I think I'd rather die buried deep within the ground than even attempt to fight a flood outbreak

I always thought an ODST 2 flood game would be so sick with flood hunting specific weapons like flame shotguns, hollow point silenced SMGs, and human versions of energy swords since theyre allied with the swords of sanghelios

So it looks like the best weapon to use against the Flood is: A fully automatic AA12 with Dragons Breath shells

I just like to imagine those few people who work for the governments that are really big Halo fans realizing just how screwed we are if an outbreak happened because I don't think most governments would take it as seriously as they should at first

I think that the biggest deciding factor would be how quickly nations would comprehend the severity of the outbreak, and react quickly, as opposed to slowly sending more robust military hardware and allowing for the outbreak to spread more and more.

I remember at halo outpost discovery they showed us a full scale flood infection form (very big in person btw) and the AI thing they had talk about it said if it got loose the continent would fall within a week and the whole planet not much longer than that. So if a flood outbreak happens irl I'm just ending it all asap.

I think I'd have a better chance of surviving a flood caused by 40 days and nights of nonstop rain.

Good god that emergency alert was amazing "Do not be afraid... I am peace... I am salvation" fantastic!!!

Honestly I think you should do more what if scenarios in halo. For example, could lord hood in halo 3 actually survive a flood infected high charity coming to earth alongside whats remains of the unsc at that time.

A lot of people overlook the fact that a combat form would most likely tip all their ammunition with flood supercells so it would infect everyone they shoot at larger ranges.

Considering how a certain desease was treated recently, i have a hard time believing we'd manage an hour...im sure their would be a significant amount of naysayers refusing to believe whatever the government says until they're split stem to stern by a combat form

I think something overlooked is how the outbreak will effect nature, plant life, certain insects, aquatic creatures, Even ones that dig underground. That would be utterly terrifying what they could infect and new Forms that would be created. Not mention their ability to make use of the hosts memories

While talking about vehicles, you forgot to mention APCs and, more importantly, infantry fighting vehicles. IFVs are typically armed with autocannons ranging from 20mm to 40mm in caliber and often firing high-explosive rounds at a decent rate, along with having guided anti-tank missiles too. Dragon's breath rounds for shotguns would not be effective. They are too weak and are mainly for show. Flamethrowers would be more effective and have a decent range (you could burn a Flood tank form from 20 meters away with an M2 flamethrower), but the fuel ruins out really fast. Although, let's be honest, you would want to go straight for small tactical nukes IMMEDIATELY regardless of the Flood outbreak stage. Containing a Flood outbreak would be VERY difficult without nuclear weapons due to the amount of wildlife that would come into contact with the Flood. An outbreak would require you to kill any animal of any size that has come into contact with Flood biomass due to the simple fact that any sentient animal with a decent enough brain is going to be infected.

Why is this even a thing? The answer is quite simple: We’re believably fucked beyond all comprehension unless the meteor/pod containing the flood spore that would start it all lands in a volcano, or if we are informed beforehand about the meteor/pod containing the spore and take immediate steps to annihilate it in its entirety even if it means scorch earthing the area. End of story. What I would like to see is a “The Flood invades your favorite universes/games/fictional stories. How well do they fair?” type of videos.

Great intro. The only constructive criticism: 1: The 556 has some significant concussion, therefore it would deal dissent damage to the flud. I would estimate 5 rounds of 556 to 1 12 gage buckshot shell. 2: IRL, a 50 caliber rifle would transform a human sized combat form into 4 limbs and abstract art. The concoction is immense. 3: shotgun slugs also have a large amount of destruction do to their geometry. They behave like hollow point bullets, but with 15 times the energy. In general, he assumed that bluets travel linearly and only deal damage by cutting through or that the hole made in the ballistic gell indicated the damage. It is much more destructive than what you see. Otherwise, this was grate.

I think it matters where the outbreak begins. If it was in the center of Tokyo, where there's thousands of people per mile, it would be horrible. If it landed up north somewhere in the Canadian wilderness like Nunavut or in Siberia, it would be much easier to deal with.

Our weapons might be somewhat effective but i think we are grasping at a dream if we think the world will instantly work together would be surprised that the superpowers would wait to help until one of them is taken out but at that point its way to late

I have my doubts about my survival against the flood, just regular zombies would be stiff competition for me, the flood are just so unstoppable though I don’t think I would last long.

The Forerunners had weapons like lasers, plasma and other advanced weaponry/technology and couldn't stop them. We have no chance. To add to why we would lose is because the Forerunners blew up planets, suns, and entire solar system ls to stop them but still failed. Finally, the Forerunners then made 7 Halos designed to kill all life in the galaxy, and even when fired the Flood came back. Soooooooo yeahhh😅

13:36 a couple days agoI was actually just talking to my brother about how the UNSC does decontamination with the flood containment teams and we just came with the conclusion that they just straight up burn the armour that the flood containment team was using because why take the risk especially with something like the flood

From my time in the Army I can say that most armored vehicles from Strykers to MRAPs come NBC equipped to operate in those environments. However, they always had leaks lol

Really depends: Upon seeing the infection do we identify it as "Flood from Halo". If so, we have tons of information available, we know how severe it is and know its strengths and weaknesses.

I was thinking hollow points the moment you mentioned that penetration wouldn’t be too effective.

Said this before in another video. One of the things I love about Halo is almost all of the in-game weapons, fire real calibers, or something close it. AR? 7.62x51/.308. Battle Rifle? 375 Socom. Commando? 6.5. DMR?308, Magnum? 50 AE, Shotgun? 8 gauge magnum... which does exist! It's awesome. All of the other weapons are roughly the same way, with the exception being the SMG. It's similar to the HK G11 4.73x33 but not quite. That being said, we would be overrun quite quickly. We couldnt contain it fast enough.

You have to remember Halo takes place 500 years in the future, the bullets (the metal bits fired from the cartridge) are likely heavier than their modern day counterparts leading to higher stopping power. As well being fired at higher velocities due to potential advancements in powders and gas.

*sees title* Yeah, that's not happening. Earth would be fucked in that case lol

Mk 211 Raufoss would most likely be the best HMG round for combating the flood. It has a small HE filler. Also, modern AFVs and aircraft are fully sealed against CBRNE threats.

Omg. I've never realized how much I need a flood analog horror based around a strike team or something stumbling onto the Flood. Please someone make a halo analog horror 😫

“One single flood spore can destroy and entire spieces” that line alone means death for us

Considering how quickly the flood spread in halo 3 and assuming that the infection's growth is linear and not exponential and that the average play time for the first flood level is about an hour. I managed to roughly calculate how long it would take to wipe out all life on the planet... 32 hours. We are not doing well against them.

When it comes to stuff like this the question isn’t “will we survive?” The question is “how much time do we have left?”

5:54 we will all be dead by then, impressive that you did the math though

One thing you forgot. Missiles and guns in naval assets like a destroyer submarine or battleship specifically and Iowa class battleship could strike a grave mind in its "home" quite easily. Great video btw

Hey Luc! I don't normally comment on your videos but I love em all the same! I just wanted to make some corrections and additions to this. First off 5.56, it depends on the 5.56 round quite honestly. Not all 5.56 rounds are meant to penatrate body armor and there a lot of variants out there. The current standard issue variant of 5.56 over here in the the states is the M855A1 Enhanced Performance Round, a 62 Grain Bullet which uses a steel penatrator and can operate at higher chamber pressures from carbines and short barreled rifles like the M4A1. However, more common variants like the standard issue M855/SS109 version (known as Green Tip), also a 62-grain bullet used everywhere else in the world is not as effective and has been tested to not perform as well as the M855A1 due to M855/SS109 being yaw dependent for maximum effect (this means the bullets has to spin in the air a certain way for it to be fully effective). The A1 has less copper and lead in the bullet, meaning the length of the actual bullet inside the brass casing is longer giving a more consistent performance against soft targets and not having this issue. The last most common variant would be the US M193 round, a 55-grain bullet that was the first iteration that's a common civilian round here in the states. These bullets were known to leave nasty wounds in Vietnam because they were going so fast and being so accurate due to their lighter weight, meaning they would spin much easier (granted this would be dependant on the rifle's twist rate, meaning the how fast the rifleing inside the barrel would spin the bullet), but because of the lighter weight they wouldn't pack as much of a punch. Now 5.56 isn't meant to necessarily penatrate body armor perse (unless you used Black Tip Rounds which have a Tungsten Core bullet) but rather enter a target tumble within the targets body and do as much internal damage as possible. Would this be effective on the Flood? Kinda hard to say really, but I'll let you or any others in the comments be the judge of that. I'd like to point out that 5.45x39mm, the Russian version of the 5.56 acts in a very similar way, but with the actual bullet tip being quite a bit larger than 5.56. However generally speaking 5.56 is known to outperform 5.45 in most aspects. A bit of a correction, 7.62x39mm is NOT considered a Battle Rifle cartridge by any means, and is considered an intermediate cartridge much like 5.56 and 5.45. Now on to how this bullet works. The normal M43 variant of the bullet which is the most common variant is made to basically dump all of its energy on a target. While it does spin, unlike 5.56 and 5.45, it's less of a concern. This bullet is made to hit you and hit you hard while making sure you don't get up. However the downside of this bullet is that this bullet is solid, even while traveling through a human body mean there is less internal wounding. Would this be as affect against the Flood, I personally don't think so but that's up to you to decide. Yugoslavia made their own variant of the 7.62x39mm called the M67 which removes the mild steel insert the regular M43 variant has to make the bullet do more internal damage by shifting its center of gravity. However this has had limited effectiveness. Both 7.62x51mm NATO and 7.62x54mmR (the R standing from Rimmed) ARE Battle Rifle rounds. However in most scenarios 7.62 NATO has been shown to outperform 7.62x54mmR. However much like 5.56, 7.62 NATO has it's own number of variants, including hollow points, most of which kind of depend on the country your in with the standard being M80 Ball (at least thats what its called here in the states). An addition here, Russia has its own crazy shotgun that might be even more powerful than the Halo Shotgun called the KS-23. It was developed in the 70s and uses 4 GAUGE SHOTGUN SHELLS (I highly recommend watching Garand Thumb's video on it). However even within Russia it is quite rare to see. Now as you said in the video the best types of ammo would 12 Gauge, RIP Rounds (which can probably be easily loaded into most SMGs), big boi rounds like 7.62 NATO, and hollow points, while bullets meant to penatrate barriers like body armor would be a no go. Well there is one more variant of 5.56 I forget to mention. Mk262, a 77-Grain match grade open tipped hollow point projectile. While these were made specifically for long range shooting out of the Mk. 12 SPR, work perfectly fine in rifles as well that take 5.56 (like the M4A1) and are far superior to the standard M855/SS109 the world currently uses, probably almost on par with M855A1, and also are available on the civilian market (at least here in the US). It's not a be all end all round, but considering that most of the world is running some kind of 5.56 rifle as their standard issue rifle, I would think this round would make logical sense. So what do you think? And ppl in the comments are free to roast me if ya'll want. But Luc I wish ya the best, and stay iconic broham.

What about the Flood in the oceans or any body of water where an initial crash most likely would happen or the infection spreads to? We only see the Flood on land as far as I know so I wonder about aquatic versions, like Flood sharks, squid or any fish.

If you ask me, No. Even if the outbreak was contained to a small region and then have a thermonuclear bomb wiping the area out like the Epsilon Protocol, good luck surviving the nuclear fallout that would block the Sun and cause a Nuclear Winter (10 Modern Nuclear Bombs today to is all it would take to kill Humanity). Plus you have to remember, this is The Flood. The flood infection can spread via airborne methods. Then you also have the issue of the combat forms themselves, even just one bite or even get scratched by the flood, you can get infected even then. And once you keep adding more biomass to the flood, that is how they eventually create a Gravemind and it just keeps getting worse the longer it is not contained. Remember as our friend Ratas Vadum said it best “One Single Flood Spore Can Destroy A Species.”

The superbowl intro gave me big time nostalgia since the team I support was there for the AFC. Cincinnati. Besides that Flood arriving NOW would be our end.

Its a good day when this man drops a flood vid😤

The flood would have consumed all of earth within in few days the caliber rounds are the least of there worry’s as the flood form can adapt pretty quickly and spread flood spores it’s basically a rap right then in there

I think the modern jacketed round against rotting flesh could be handy and effective. If there was a flood of flood coming your way. The round would over penetrate and hit the next floodform behind it and so on till the round has to little energy. By that time the round will be deformed and do more flesh damage. If that is done with machineguns, that will be devastating for the flood.

5:49 and it's then u see the tentacles coming out of his chest confirming that he's already one of them XD

GarandThumb needs to do a survival series on how to survive a flood outbreak.

5.56 Fragments inside the body so I mean it would be effective too, alot of rounds are used for penetration however it would still more than likely fragment, especially like 55 grain rounds which is still used in like reserve troops and by alot of Militaries

Oh my God Luc, that intro was the best intro you or any other Halo RU-vidr has ever made with the way it ended. That was the best intro I've seen in years on all of RU-vid.😂

Modern militarys dont really use shotguns. I think they used to use them for breaching but abandoned it in favor of breaching charges for the safety of the troops using it.

To be fair the US military swapped out the 5.56 cartridge for the new 6.8x51mm (.277 fury) as it's new combat rifle about a year ago. I think they still have some of the 5.56 rifles in circulation though Edit: I think they said the reason for the swap was because they wanted better body armor penetration due to the rise in body armor within military's around the world.

Can you imagine the Rock as a Flood combat form? 0_0

That into was wicked cool!!!

That opening was one of the most chilling things ever

Gotta love this man's passion for Halo and especially the Flood.

A Flood outbreak would also be a good time to bust out any reserves of chemical weapons that might be lying around. Can you imagine Flood forms, unknowingly wandering from one fog to another, shriveling and dying en masse from chlorine/Sarin/Nova 6? If the Flood is built around nervous systems and mostly rotten flesh, then surely NERVE gas and corrosive gas would do something? Also we have 1 more (perhaps meta) advantage: We are talking about fighting a video game enemy, already known to millions of Halo players throughout the world. Chances are a good number of soldiers and civilians (especially American ones) will recognize what they're fighting. Maybe this video will save billions.

Napalm and white phosphorous munitions: "Our time has come!"

This kind of video which goes into the nerdy stuff like weapons and vehicles is amazing… if done right, which you my sir have pulled this off in a fashion that I would say you have done perfectly. From the little things like caliber to the specific guns to the larger things like tactics that we should use, this is perfect. I’m a big gun nerd and it really makes me feel amazing when RU-vidrs that are not guntubers go into specifics. I remember when you uploaded 2 videos that went over weapons during halo CE and those were astounding to me how the UNSC sniper rifle fires a round that is used in stuff like the PTRD and the PTRS. Both of those weapons are designed to be anti tank weapons, the crazy part about it though is that those rounds are bigger and penetrate armor better than something like 20mm, and yes the ptrs fires 5, 14.5 rounds but the halos sniper is so much better and it shocks me that the UNSC uses a caliber that old. Thank you so much and I would love to see stuff like halo 2 UNSC and covenant weapons in the same style as the halo CE series!

Flood combat forms are easy to take down. You destroy the infector pod, which is usually head height. They go down easy taking them out.

*NO!*

This was a really cool video idea! I'd love to see one about how we could handle the covenant, how long could we last against each type of unit

Yo the opening to this terrified me 😂 good job mate ! 👍

Both the 556 and 545 will "tumble" after penetrating and often do a lot of damage internally. It's rare to be a clean through and through

If the flood occured somewhere in the desert like the great Sahara or similar areas it might be stopped a lot more easily due to the lack of population in those regions

For all those wondering, you can get your very own "Flame projection device" for around $600. Perfectly legal in most states in the U.S and can be shipped right to your door! Never you mind those Geneva suggestions! Congress never agreed to them!

I saw this video in my recommended a few days ago (never watched it) and It gave me a nightmare where I got to experience the existential terror of the flood slowly taking over and the utter hopelessness of watching soldiers who were trying to fight it become part of the enemy in seconds. I really didn't appreciate how terrifying it is because it's not real, but having a dream where it was real definitely made me realize how terrifying it is

Given how we barely even handled the pandemic, you'd think there would be people willingly throwing themselves at the Flood to get purposely infected.

That be super hard to deploy lmgs given standard platoons have only 2-3. You also move much slower given how heavy they are. They would definitely have to set up defensive perimeters rather than assault the flood. You just can’t move as fast.

Omg that intro was awesome

This is possibly the most goated remake you could have done

On a scale of one to Gravemind, how screwed are we? I think it’s a key mind.

Yo Luc! If you haven't already, ya might consider trying out the Gravemind mods for L4D2. There's a ton of great work done by the mod authors and it was pretty cool to give a Flood Outbreak vibe to an already awesome game.

Oh man that intro just makes me want an Analog Horror series on this scenario lol

As opportunistic as I am normally, uh - I think we'd be better off giving the covenant keys to their rings than trying to stop the flood

I don’t think any of us would survive if we were actually caught within an outbreak of the flood

Please make more! Even just theory videos would make me super happy

Ok that intro was sick 💪

Brooo this intro🔥🔥🔥

That intro was incredible

BROOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! THAT INTRO THO!!!

OH MY GOSH!! 5 whole centuries until the Flood arrive!? We're so screwed!! Idea: What would happen if an outbreak a quarter the size of the one in Halo 3 landed in the same location, but during World War 2? How screwed are we still, because we'd have more access to flamethrowers, emphasis on tanks and HE and WP rounds, but also in the middle of the last largest conflict in the world.

That Intro was hilarious and creepy 😂

Remember on Game of Thrones when Robert Baratheon asks "what is the greater number, 5 or 1?" And Cersei guesses 1, and Robert then holds up 5 fingers and then closes it into a fist saying 1, "one army, one purpose." That is the Flood, completely unified into one goal and willing to do anything to achieve it. Even if we were more unified than we've ever been we still wouldn't be able to stop the Flood

As Informed and knowledgeable of the flood as I am, I am confident that I will not survive an outbreak. The flood outright terrifies me even as an adult. It uses your strength, your knowledge against you. I am a firearms collector, I study them and their history in great detail. I fall or anyone like me falls the flood learns how to use weapons manufactured over the past century.

And one more thing yes do more videos like this Because they're fun and educational and fun to watch

That Mandela Catalog style intro was amazing man!!! perfectly fit with the flood theme!

The 240 is also a crew served so you dedicate 2-3 people per gun. Also there is always the SAW that’s in each fireteam

10:20 funnily enough i made a flame thrower that shot out 10+ foot flames when i was 14 here in the US, it's surprisingly easy to make.

Okay just that intro, listening to the A.I of the televised system, turning its speech into quotes from the gravemind. That's actually pretty creepy.

This was an amazing video, and I think Earth wouldn’t last a week without a country getting fully infected. I think it would be a cool idea to do a video like this but what if we discovered hell from Doom in 2023, and if we could survive or not, and what would happen

The alert message at the beginning played and then all the power in my area went out, that timing is creepy

I think there’s two scenarios for a Flood outbreak. Either humanity steps in early and snuffs it out before it ever becomes that big of an issue, or it experiences exponential growth and quickly takes over the planet while eliminating all the opposition

i think one major fact should be noted, the OCEAN. if there is any flood that gets in there, it would probably be able to be unnoticed especially in the deep sea long enough where all shores are a front. also flood squids, which sound cool as a flood monster

Love these videos

Assuming it's still in the feral stage, do to how high these aircraft can fly, I think B1B-Lancer and B2-Spirit bombers would devastate the flood. Keep in mind, a few B2's could nearly flatten a town if they're fully equiped with mainly bombs meant for hitting the surface and not like bunker busters.

Saw the title, initial response: "The short answer is No". -watches the breakdown because I love your energy and all of your videos-

Good thing I already subscribed! Now I know that I’ll be safe when the Flood invades in approximately 529.353425 years…

I also want to say that some countries keep White Phosphorus rounds and are very much willing to use them. As a former South Korea Artillery man, we have 155mm WP (White Phosphorus) shells ready to be used at any given time, we just haven't quite used them yet. Given the substance of what WP is... I don't think I need to elaborate how effective it would be against organic matter. If you need an example, go look at Spec Ops: The Line.

Killer intro!

I paused at the 0:47 mark when I write the following. So accurate while being disturbing. I live in Texas and I guarantee at least 5% of the 25+million population (or 1.25M) or doing as instructed. That is soo many people if you think about it. Hopefully you have a private jet so you can fly over here to one of your devoted fans surely. Resuming video now lol..

You're right about flame throwers not being standard issue weapons. That's because they're not really weapons in the US. They're considered brush clearing tools that any civilian can purchase in most states

Yo im glad you put FPSrussia in this video that man is the goat of gun channels