Check Out Zenmarket! zenmarket.jp/en/signup.aspx?a... Join this channel to get access to perks: / @thundergodtg Intro 0:00 Speed 1:23 Strength/Durability 5:14 Techniques 8:28 #anime #baki
Completely different convo, idk what “skill” kinda implies but if you’re saying pure hand to hand /martial arts I do got Yujiro over Goku but, Goku is actually severely underrated imo.
3:01 you can dismiss that one my man, is because of good buu He won't allow kid buu to kill Mr. satan. hence the dodges, it was kid buu forcefully holding back.
@@aliastheabnormal I have 2 words for you, bud. WORLD FUCKING CHAMP! He entered a tournament with Cell, Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, Gohan and KRILLIN(second strongest human) in it. Guess who won? That's right...the World Champ. Could ANY Hanma do that? No. That champion has a name and it's Mr. SATAN. Show some respect.
@@tree_alone hmmm for now I'd give it to Satan simply because early dragon ball kind of implied the ox king was widely known, and Satan was still called the strongest
@@xanubisixanima9661The Cell and Buu feats are literal gag. Cell was pretty nice to hold back so much power, that’d he send him flying, but let him live to speak about it. Satan dodging Buu’s death blows are literal comedy. C’mon.
@ViltrumiteIsRite99 Doesn't matter if they're gags they're still feats,like Cell was defo going for the kill there btw he had no reason to hold back he prolly just underestimated hercule,Buu on the other hand was holding back at first cause of fat buu
Martial Arts do infact include Weapons. If you gave Miyamoto Musashi or Wong Fei-hung a Colt 45, dudes would have made John Woo look like a documentarian. There ia also the fact that yes there are CQC martial arts that involve firearms. Most Modern Militaries mandaite them
You realise yujiro canonically scales with his opponents and tends to instantaneously learn any technique or ability they have right? Even just imagining he is fighting that person, if he beats them in his imagination then he literally becomes stronger than that person in real life. Some characters like Baki needed to witness it first, but yujiro just intrinsically already knows this shit The Baki universe is stupid and doesn’t make sense. Edit; the people replying to me have no idea what they’re talking about and don’t seem to actually engage the Baki rules in any capacity. There’s no reasons for me to believe yujiro couldn’t be a planet buster overnight, he doesn’t follow any rules and has demonstrated literally no limit or scale. He’s ridiculous and doesn’t make any sense. There’s no reason for me to believe yujiro couldn’t just give himself ki, or even super saiyan. He literally invents “martial arts” in his imagination based on mythical creatures like the ogre. In the Baki universe martial arts is pretty much nothing like real life martial arts, they’re essentially super powers. Doppo’s son katsumi through imagining his bones had thousands of joints, suddenly developed thousands of joints (katsumi is a fodder character from the first series for the weakest people in the series to beat) and now with this newfound ability could use a martial arts which lets him break the sound barrier when he used. Yujiro does stuff like this as a party trick to warm up before a fight. I haven’t even addressed the ridiculous insane crap yujiro does when he activates his “demon back” or even his “demon brain” Yujiro canonically grows stronger every second that passes passively and that stat multiplier literally increases rapidly based on how motivated he is or who he’s fighting. I’m not joking. He basically walks around with a passive super saiyan form. He goes from being weak to tranquilliser darts and being trapped in a net, to 2 hours later where he’s immune to all drugs and poisons and is strong enough to tear through a thick bank vault door just by walking in a straight line with his hands in pockets like the door isn’t even there. He literally makes no sense and canonically knows and can exploit any living beings weakness on an atomic level. He can see your entire biology, he even instantly learn any technique even if it doesn’t exist (don’t ask me how that works) as a party trick he can redirect any energy you send on him right back at it times 2 and make you flip or launch in any direction he wants. He can rattle skyscrapers just by standing still and being sort of angry. YUJIRO. DOESNT. MAKE. SENSE. *HE LITERALLY DOESNT WORK IN ANY POWER SCALING ARGUMENT* the dude LITERALLY masters abilities or becomes immune to attacks which don’t exist literally just because he IMAGINED that he was. And I mean IMAGINED, there is literally no other context there. It’s just whether he can imagine it or not. He’s also canonically beyond super genius prodigy when it comes to martial arts. Canonically it’s programmed into his DNA to be a master at any technique. Comparing him to dragon ball characters doesn’t make sense bc he would literally just scale with them instantly.
I like to think that Mr Satan would be the "fabled one" in a more realistic martial arts manga,kinda like Yujiro is . A huge muscular hairy man,with the strength of a bronze era strongman, champion in Boxing,Karate,Pro Wrestling,Judo and Muay Thai. When other characters talk about him,he is known as "world champion for many years"
I can get behind this, in Dragon Ball the average martial artists are expected to pull superhuman feats like is nothing, and you could find people who can catch bullets with their hands, cut rocks clean with normal swords and even use strange magic, so I think Mr. Satan as coward and "recursive" as he is would have a decente change in Baki.
To be honest remembering his feats when he was presented (breaking tiles, dragging school buses, and also surviving a slap from cell) I do relly think he could be at the same level than many fighters in the Baki universe
With his durability alone, even Yujiro would struggle to actually hurt Hercule, I base this off the fact that Hercule took hits from Cell, and Majin Buu and he survived with no permanent injuries that we are aware of, but I'm pretty sure he got minor TBI's from both. I'm not so sure Hercule would beat Yujiro, but Yujiro would have the best fight he'd ever had for sure.
@G4M3R1R0N Trying, no. He still got launched and smashed into a rock face and got up with little to no damage. And that was with something in the way, we don't even know how far he would have been slapped if he didn't get stopped.
i would just call him a bullet timer period the only reason he got shot in the first place was because his back was turned when he was helping the dog with buu.
Mr. Satan DID move fast enough for the human eye to completely lose sight of him. Thats pretty damn fast, the human eye can track quite a fast speed but most places say about 550mph is the minimum speed to completely vanish from sight.
How fast you have to move to dissappear from sight depends entirely on the distance of the observer. There isn't a real "minimum" speed requirement for it
Hercule's true best feat, imo, is when he pulled that large rock out of the ground with 1 hand. The grip strength and raw power required for that surpasses anything else he's shown to do, gags aside.
At 5:08, outliers in the Dragonball can easily be explained by ki control. Krilin was able to wound Vegeta, when he lowered his ki. Goku got caught off guard by a laser. Buu’s ki levels may have been lower, due to Satan not being a threat.
With him dodging kid buu I always assumed that's just good buu inside of him throwing him off cause right after that he spits him out and goes for the kill with good buu saving him again
True, but it highlights his main (not exactly canonic) feat : HYPER LUCK. Think about all he what survived, accomplished or earned thanks to pure dumb luck. Cell game ? Lucky him camera broke so he could pretend to have defeated Cell. Lucky him again Z warriors have 0 interest in celebrity and let him be. Buu Saga : Mr Satan tried to assassinate Buu instead of defeating him (not a bad idea to be fair. The chocolate thing might have worked on Frieza) but lucky him, Buu thought it was playing. Lucky him again Bee the pup RANDOMLY showed up, which seriously helped him bounding with the genocidal god slayer... Shall I continue ? He would be a total wild card in Baki tournaments !
@@Ante-Anima dude is literally the only human of his entire generation and even the generation after to have never actually died. literally every other human had been wiped out. he was the last human alive in all the universe for a brief time. hyper luck might actually be underselling it.
@dylancrowder4229 technically but since whis rewound time, I'd say it doesn't count. It's not like the dragonballs and rezzing someone, whis just made it so it didn't happen
Mr.Satan Is the stronest human without ki control he pulled 4 busses by a rope,He doesnt solo anyone but hes far from weak,Now have old kai to awaken his latent potential,Now that would be intresting.
@@garyreid2472 well he has a problem with ki since tao killed his master at a bar for making fun of his hair. i dont think he would be opposed to learn it now to be fair but unless goku or videl talked him into learning it i dont see him going out of his way to learn ki.
Bro this topic! instant like, comment, and now I watch. I knew you were cooking up something, but damn, I'm going to watch now, and may God continue to bless you, fam. Happy to be a part of the journey.
This your best video yet. Very creative and different from the rest of the community. This is why you’re #1 when it comes to the newer Naruto RU-vidrs.
What I'm thinking. Anime villain: *finds out about Yamcha's track record before taking him on* This will be easy. Spongebob Narrator: *5 mins later* Anime villain: "How is he this powerful?" *ends up in the Yamcha pose, in a crater* But in all seriousness, I feel a lot of anime villains would be like the random fighters in the tournaments against the rest of the Z Fighters, canon fodder that usually gets one shot. The fact most of them can tip the scale they used in the Buu arc with mere taps/ light hits says a whole lot.
Thats far from what i expected your next baki vid to be but ngl shit was hilarious and just fun to think about. also side note hanayama does improve as the series goes on and we even see a panel of him training at the start of the musashi arc iirc
You failed to add Satan's physical abilities like his jump height and how he tore through a bus. And yes Satan flying into the side of a mountain and falling, just to show a bloody nose is a serious feat. Plus he moved so fast, the thugs thought he disappeared. Not counting him being a WMA champion meaning he won against other disciplines. His signature moves are lacking, but that doesn't mean his normal technique is bad(even Goku considered fusing with him). Him being shot isn't just because he wasn't quick enough. His emotions and mentality weren't in top condition and he was caught by surprise. Baki didn't dodge the bullets shot, he saw where they were aiming and timed his movements to the guards movements.
he wasn't caught by surprise he kicked the shit out of the thugs spat on them and ran to the dogs aid and had buu hurry up and heal the dog. the reason he got shot is because his back was turned and was celebrating with buu that the dog was okay. i agree with you but honestly his emotions didn't really have anything to do with it since its pretty clear he would have dodged anything they threw his way while he was in the state he was in.
Agreed, people can say correctly Cell "held back" because true, Satan lacks ki. But you can't say being tossed over the horizon into a mountain and only having a bloody nose is not an amazing feat of durability that is only overshadowed because the power scale of DBZ makes that seem pathetically week. Same with him and the thugs in Buu Saga, or him dodging the hits from Buu. Again, Buu might be being distracted by his good side but even 1% of speed or strength is incredibly superhuman. Not saying Hercule Satan might beat the top tier if Baki or... Other non ki/magic super strong anime place. But I can argue he might at least top tier or close.
This is absolutely an interesting bout. Didn't think we'd get a Baki video until the new season comes out. Had a rough-ish day, thank you for this HEAT
@ofesp8122 yeah exactly what i was referring to! Definitely hyped to see it but prolly finna wait until the majority of it is out to binge it. Did that with the Pickle Arc and my god was it worth it!
Jokes aside, the fact that he survived the smack to the face from Perfect Cell and smashing face-first into a mountain hard enough to leave a huge impact crater with no serious injury puts his durability at truly insane levels when considering "realistic" durability.
He took a hit from cell and lived as a regular human. I don’t mean like Krillin, Tien or Yamaha that are practically human, he’s literally just a regular dude that is skilled in Martial Arts.
9:41 Ayo is that a Kengan Omega panel? Damn considering that we're going to get a Kengan/Baki crossover in about a month I would love to see that series get some love on this channel. It'd be pretty cool
The specific outliers you pointed out in the Speed category for Mr Satan with Buu or the rocket and Monaka with Gas have very simple answers: they’re gag characters, these dudes literally have Toon Force on their sides. Mr Satan couldn’t dodge the bullet because the situation was genuinely serious. He only died (presumably) in the future timeline because it was off-screen. Hercule could solo Bluto from Popeye
Also Satan was talking to Boo when he was shot, so not paying attention and had his back turned. Like Goku did with a lazer lol And priorly Hercule had dodged point blank bullets easily. I will say Hercule doesnt Solo Baki, but this is straight downplay. Dude takes a sneak attack as the main basis for speed when it was shown that Hercule could Bullet time legit not 2 minutes prior to that clip (Even showing the exact Manga pannel he does it in but glosses by it) and then also ignores the main basis for durability, and also completely ignores one thing that he just straight up didnt bring up this video: Hercule is a motherfucking schemer, with Charisma and Intelligence in spades beneath his goofbal exterior. He's fucked in Dragon Ball because he is utterly outclassed by people who can destroy Planets with a sneeze. In Baki? He's slower and weaker than maybe the top tiers or slower or weaker than some of the mid tiers. Hercule in Baki isnt soloing, but if he is written in the Baki verse rhis is who exactly you would be facing A World Champion Level Martial Artist, able to dodge bullets casually, survived being slammed into a mountain and falling almost a thousand feet with only a nose bleed from landing on his face (Sure you can down play the Cell hit itself, but you cant downplay him landing on his face), more than willing to pull out a Gun if things get serious, and to add in right next to that point "One of his main techniques it to hit right between the eyes" and pulls 4 buses (which is physically more impressive than 1 Helicopter) from strength alone. Again not a Verse soloing Threat, but absolutely a Menace and someone to not at all take Lightly.
I always thought Mr Satan was stacked for a human without ki lol. Dude pulled an airplane or soemthing like that in super I believe. And the way he casually speed blitzed the guy with the gun was strange af 😂😂
Wooooaaaaaahhh the Hercule downplay is crazy 😭😭😭he wasn’t even on no smoke when he got shot he wasn’t he just chilling telling everybody calm down 😭😭😭and pulling four buses is way more than pulling a helicopter or getting hit by a truck 😂😂😂😂this is disrespectful man my heart 🥺😭
Bruh the world's strongest man pulled a jumbo jet much impressive than pulling a 4 busses. And pulling a Helicopter from the ground while it is flying is way more difficult than pulling 4 busses with fully functioning wheels. Whats wrong with you.
@@JackmcCoy1933 eh with mr satans build its actually a lot more impressive that he pulled those 4 busses than a strong man pulling a jumbo jet. you gotta keep in mind that strong men are usually very big men that weigh 400+ pounds. while mr statan is only 208 pounds but to be fair he is 6'2 so he is also a very big man. not to even mention the fact that 4 tour busses give or take weight up to 202800 pounds while the jets strong men usually pull in competitions weigh only up to 44000 pounds. so in reality not only is mr satan doing a far more impressive feat than most strongmen but he is also doing it at half their weight while still being able to move around fast enough to move faster than a normal humans eye can see. also not to mention he manages to pull these busses in a pretty up right stance which is fucking insane. strongmen usually lean all their weigh forward and pull on a rope and hope they can assert the 1000 pounds of force its takes for momentum to do its thing. mr satan is actually pulling 4 tour busses in a semi upright stance and actually pulling them with rope obviously momentum still plays a part but what mr satan does is absolutely insane feat that far surpasses what most if not all strongmen are capable of at half the weight. tho to compare it to what oliva did oliva pulling that helicopter is probably still way more impressive i wouldn't know how to actually measure how much force it would take to actually do what oliva did.
You forgot Mr Satan's main feat : HYPER LUCK (I know : the canonicity of that power isn't established) While not at the same level as Marvel's Domino or OPM's King, his luck still deserve praises. Think of all the extreme stuffs he survived only thanks to that, think of the fact his daughter happily married the heir of one of the most powerfull being in his universe, think at his insane popularity (despite not being the first "world savior"), think at the humongous wealth it granted him ! If that's not surnatural luck, I don't know what it is. As far as I'm aware of, no Baki character have ever displayed anything similar, so his victory might not be as hopeless as you depicted.
3:00 It's Good Buu inside Majin Buu stopping himself from killing his best friend, part of the Daizenshou(?) explained this as it's not a recognised Hercule feat
So realistically your analysis of Mr.Satan is spot on he can’t stand up at all in this match up, and to the people using his feats against cell and kid buu that’s absurd lol, we wouldn’t be discussing the match up if those were true cause he’d be billions times FTL and solar system lvl at a minimum then which would be silly for a guy who himself sees guns as a threat when he’s on guard. Overall great video, although I will say underestimating goku’s technique a bit his battle iq and technique are so good he can predict when an over a thousand year old professional assassin he’s fighting is going to jump into the future and what he’s going to do to react to what he did before he did it.
I feel like the only way Mr. Satan would stand much of a chance would be if he went and had his potential unlocked by Guru first. Even without any other training, that would give him enough of a power-boost to edge-out most of the Baki characters, BUT the Baki verse characters would probably be able to adapt to that pretty quickly... And he'd force them to seriously upgrade their power and technique pretty quickly. In essense, even if he DID... He'd go back a second time and get bodied.
Satan gets hyped up by narrator after he contacts Tokugawa to fight one of the current arcs main rivals... Little does he realise that he'll get 2 shotted by another rival, ironically only to then have that same guy lose to ANOTHER rival who's actually somewhat comparable to the Baki mid tiers.
@@SatorisYT Good to know, btw I love your "what if Boros turned good" series, do you have a planned date for the next episodes or is it still in production?
You forgot one thing about Mr Satan, and that is his incredible luck. You could put him in any casino,not explaining any rules of the games there, and he would leave the casino with all of the casino's money. If he fought Yujiro a stray ki blast or candry beam from buu after he sneezed and accidentally shoot it would hit Yujiro, allowing Mr Satan to win
Not many people know this but Toriyama provided some back history on Mr. Satan! He revealed Mr. Satan's real name is Mark and he trained at a martial arts dojo Satan Castle! While on tour with his master, the two encountered Mercenary Tao (not clear if it was before or after he became a cyborg)! The two made the mistake of insulting the hairstyle of Earth's number one assassin, which resulted in Tao killing Mr. Satan's master, yet Mr. Satan while badly injured survived the encounter!
Honestly I'm surprised Mr. Satan never opted to learn about KI after witnessing what Goku and Company could do. Even Vedal knows enough to be able to fly and She could probably even throw Ki blasts if she learned just a little more.
He pulled 4 city buses (around 120,000 pounds) and then punched a hole in one which is 18 gauge steel which would require around 150,000 psi to do. Mr. Satan is actually insanely strong lol
I think it’s worth noting that technology in the dragon ball verse is way more advanced than the real world so it might be quite the low ball scaling him to real world weapons
Considering he survived a hit from buu and cell granted they didn't use any of their real strength these are still two powerful entities that could've turned him into a mist so he might last emphasis on the might
Hercule is possibly the strongest person who doesn't have ki-control training, but some of the feats Baki characters do could be comparable to Red Ribbon officers, maybe even Mercenary Tao level...
My thing is like even if you wanted to use hia gag feats (survivng cell and dodging kid buu) that doesnt equate to his strength so realistly he still wouldnt beat any of em in a fight
Hey let's not dis-regard that time that Hercule got bitch-slapped into a literal actual mountain by Mr. Perfect Cell and was physically just kinda *fine* afterwards, okay?
