Could StarCraft 2 EVO mod be the future of competitive StarCraft? 

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Hey, thanks for taking a look at our mod. I feel like this is a pretty good concise summary of how the SC1 vs SC2 scene is going currently. We appreciate the encouragement as well. There is more Evolution Complete to come though, SC1 vs SC2 is only one form of the mod as a whole.

BW mod is super cool, I think balancing can be eventually worked out though it could come at the cost of the originality of the sc1 units, the biggest factor which can make it harder to use is the lack of a proper ladder system

We need to think out of the box to make this mod work for competitive play. I don't think it's possible to balance all of the matchups. But instead we should explore alternative tournament formats such as race drafting before each map.

I think it will be the same as Starbow, people will like it and try at first but then fade out... specially when there is not a Rank system automatically to play as the SC2 Ladder or Unranked based on MMR

It's probably going to end up being a demographic/political question: if enough people can coalesce around one version of balance using the BW assets, I think it stands a chance.

0:34 Oh hey I recognize that thumbnail! Great content man, this mod has been a lot of fun to cast

They should make a mod to play the coop-commanders against each other in 1v1!

It may have a future if the brood war balance is done right (patches and frequency), which is VERY hard to achieve at the moment. But crossing my fingers though. Never had this much fun watcing SC games ever since the peak days of SC2 and when I briefly go into Brood War again.

i miss going online and playing the sc1 broodwar team micro arena.

I think it would be better if it were only SC1 races compete with each other. In short, it's a SC broodwar in SC2 engine. The challenge is to balance the game when the units (e.g. dragoon) have better pathfinding, better unit control (e.g. SCV auto repair, stimpack & heal inside bunker).

I love this channel. Thanks for these videos!

This must be an official matchmaker mode and AI for PvE enjoyers

Stalkers are better than dragoons? this is at least debatable

this mod is pure genius been playing it a lot recently

WHERE IS STARCRAFT VS WARCRAFT?!

When is team vs team going to be available?

I don't think balancing is possible unless it adjusts based on what race you play against, which I am not sure that is possible. Otherwise, you stray to far from it being Brood War. That said, (and I know blizzard will never do with because they can't profit off it nor do they care about fans) it would be cool if they added an option to play Ladder of just brood war races in sc2 engine. Then have a balance team for it like they have for sc2 now. it would be interesting to see if any brood war players would play it or if anyone would come back and try it. Keep in mind it would just be Brood War vs Brood War. i played Brood War when I was young. It was my first RTS ever, but now it's just hard to watch for me compared to sc2 pro-scene. SC2 just feels like it's a faster pace. However, watching WinterSC play the older races have been quite fun. It's a missed opportunity on Blizzard's end and honestly it's sad they gave up on the game and yet AoE 2 still gets updates. Both Sc and Sc2 are better than that (In my opinion). Sadly, with how greedy big gaming companies are, if Blizzard decided to do anything with it. it would be just way over charged. Even though all the stuff is in the game and would take 0 work. Maybe like a $5 USD cost to have servers and keep the lights on? I dunno. I just enjoy the Brood War vs Brood in the sc2 engine over Sc1 vs Sc2 thing. (Please note: A lot of this is just me stating my opinion. I am not saying 1 version of the game is better than the other.) P.S. I really enjoy your Sc2 content Esports Storyteller. I'd love to hear more bios of proplayers kinda like you did with Special in one of the videos. (I vote Zest who is one of the best and most interesting Protoss players. As Winter says, "Zest is just Has if Has ever bothered to Macro... and be good at Sc2")

I sure hope so

StarCraft 2 EVO incorporated into the main game would be great. The only problem is the Mineral resources needs to be uniform just like HOTS/WOL/BW , you can already see some of the newer maps are not that good for the Brood war races and it disturbs the normal pace of the game. Overall the BW races are more glass cannon races in both defence and attack. The Only gameplay changes that should be alloed are the Spellcasters and their spells like lockdown. I have never seen Duels before between BW Ghosts vs SC 2 Ghosts - EMPS vs medics and Lockdowns vs tanks is so much fun.

I'd still like to see the beta version dragoons, which looked more like the dragoons from sc1, as well as larger archon hit fx such as you see in the campaign

what is the exact name of the mod? i see a bunch of EVO Complete mods in the list :(

I thought brood war Zerg larva and eggs were supposed to have 200 base armor?

Truly hope it does. A ladder and patches to add balance would make things last a while, I haven't played the game in over 5 years and finally reinstalled. They would absolutely have to nerf BW spell casters and provide buffs for the base units though.

Same issue as before. No active development, this is just a fase. (coming from a fan of the game)

Everyone also has a different opinion on how it should work. If you ask me I would like it to be closer to bw and not have many modifications regardless of balance, as much as possible at least.

The scarab is way too fast wth

And after SC2 evo mod SC3 will ne next 😁

any one even know what the mod name ?

Evo#1

If not were because it would be a balancing nightmare and pulling out new factions of the same 3 races would be a pain the ass, Microsoft / Blizzard should copy the Age of Empires model and sell expansion packs every year with new factions. Besides the BW races, they can add the UED, Primal Zerg, and Tal' Darim.

the issue is BW was nicer in 2D, the 3D tech is just not there yet and its very cartoony like. They should have never removed the old units that worked really well. I think if SC3 is real it should come out around 2030 when the 3D technology has progressed way more

I thought Cosmonarchy would be the future of competitive StarCraft, with tons of new units and a different design philosophy separate from vanilla StarCraft.

Liberator? Z1 can decimate it easily with scourge, you were looking at old replays when players were new to the mod. At current meta, scourges are so often used that SC2 and protoss don't even bother with air units, liberater??? What's that?

I wonder if they can give sc1 style movement to the melee units of the old races. Also, I'm not 100 percent certain but it feels like units are refiring quicker with stutter stepping compared to sc1, which makes some units much more powerful with micro. With sc1, if you stutter step and stop too soon, the unit will not refire until a certain time has passed, which is also after the 'rearming' animation where units take aim or gun hatches open. With sc2 in particular, marines can refire immediately after stopping, and there is a visual bug where the marines' firing animation is not quite synching up, indicating the lack of minimum time intervals for movement and firing, etc... without these, some of the new units feel especially strong!

I'm replaying StarCraft 1 campaign and man I hate reavers. Can't wait to get back to StarCraft 2 where they don't exist lol.

It's nice but I think it's gimmicky. I think it's very unbalanced. Is it worth balancing another three races? How do you even do it? It's a six races x6 matchups?! Ye good luck with that.

imo they should just add some of the necessary units of the SC2 factions to the BW factions that weren't just straight replacements and it isn't THAT much i think zerg needs corrupters (they heavily lack in the AA department even with the devourer), queens would be difficult since they are already there in their BW version ... so maybe midgame airweapon range upgrade for hydralisk and sporecolonies instead? terran should get the reaper for early harassment ... toss should get the colossus and adept the more crucial addition though imo might be the macromechanics the factions received terran mules zerg larvainjection and toss overcharge

Mod is absolutely cool even though it isn’t balanced. I mean, SC2 is not even close to being balanced.

This mod has been out for years technically.. it will go in the obscurity pile. Star Battle was more popular than this mod tbh.

It's a really cool mod but it wont be the future of competitive play. It does highlight how much more fresh and exciting SC2 could have stayed if Blizzard had been less conservative about mixing things up over the years. They pandered too much to the status quo of professional play and the game suffered for it.

I hope not

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I tried this mod and found that dragoons are poo. I mean they're good but they do so poo damage to light that it's almost negligible. Terran BW bio it's also poo.

When they say balance of evolution does it mean that Protos is 40 percent weaker than the other races? How in sc 2 that balance is the only thing that does not exist? The Reaver is a unit that requires a constant micro, it is quite well balanced, not like most of the Terran units. in sc 2 they are very easy to abuse their power like the viking 9 attack range +40 damage how to eat that plus they are very cheap they are built 2 by 2 a very oppressive and easy to handle unit

It's just a fad

Get a job (if you have a job get a promotion) and start working out the game is dead

Ew no

Nope. Sc2 is better

4:19 stalkers are better than dragoons? you sc2 fanboys are spoiled brats.

in my opinion I was upset that they put the evo mod on the esl broadcast. Afreeca did it whatever they've lost the plot ages ago. But ESL was the place for the best pro 1v1 tournaments. Putting in a team evo game really soured their legitimacy for me, no wonder they gave up the world championship to the saudi's. Arcade games should stay where they belond, away from the pro scene tournaments.

We dont need SC2 to live forever, we need Blizzard to get their hands out of their asses and make a good new RTS.