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Could The Twilight Realm Ever RETURN To Zelda? [ft. MaskedNintendoBandit] 

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With Twilight Princess being my all time favourite video game I thought it was time to discuss the BIG uqestion of if the Twilight Realm Could Ever RETURN To The Zelda series, cheers and enjoy!
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@HyruleGamer
@HyruleGamer 4 года назад
Hey folks, I really hope you enjoyed the video! Be sure to go and check out MNBs video right here! - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UoQJie1yio0.html
@emma-beans2106
@emma-beans2106 4 года назад
Hah I watched his before yours... Coincidence? Maybe. But anyway, Great Videos!
@HyruleGamer
@HyruleGamer 4 года назад
@@emma-beans2106 Nice one! Thanks a lot Riju :D
@JadeJuno
@JadeJuno 4 года назад
Yeah, so I just wanted to point out (tho a lot of people already did) that the Dark World isn't the Twilight Realm. The Dark World is just a corrupted version of the Sacred Realm, so yeah
@HyruleGamer
@HyruleGamer 4 года назад
@@JadeJuno Like I've been replying to many, I was making a comparable item section. Not 100% using the Magic Mirror for evidence. It does take Link from realm to realm which was my point :)
@JadeJuno
@JadeJuno 4 года назад
@@HyruleGamer I see. Tho at one moment you or MNB said "the Twilight Realm also known as the Dark World", but yeah it was probably a little mistake I wasn't paying much attention at the video tbh xD
@CZsWorld
@CZsWorld 3 года назад
Simple, the mirror was only shattered in the child timeline. The gate is still open in the adult timeline, the downfall timeline and the potential timeline that splits off of Skyward Sword.
@cadenanderson4178
@cadenanderson4178 3 года назад
You are the smartest person here
@JoeHoeDoesSomething
@JoeHoeDoesSomething 3 года назад
What's your favorite Zelda game
@cadenanderson4178
@cadenanderson4178 3 года назад
Either windwaker or twilight princess
@JoeHoeDoesSomething
@JoeHoeDoesSomething 3 года назад
@@cadenanderson4178 Those games are amazing
@ivanmunoz9055
@ivanmunoz9055 3 года назад
But the mirror in twilight princess was in the mirror circus (it's called like that in Spain, I mean the colosseum in the desert), so where was it in the other timelines? In the adult timeline could exist another arbiter's ground as the hero is triumphant but in the downfall timeline will something like that exists?
@dl-2
@dl-2 4 года назад
: The end of twilight princess broke EVERY FANS HEART. That’s an interesting zoom in...
@nillynush4899
@nillynush4899 4 года назад
there's gotta be another hidden entrance to the Twilight realm somewhere. Midna cant be gone forever.
@spartanq7781
@spartanq7781 4 года назад
My kind of booty.😏
@rusteshackleferd8115
@rusteshackleferd8115 3 года назад
@@spartanq7781 I know right? Obviously impish Midna is supposed to be wearing a bodysuit but try telling that to highschool me & friends or anyone else who first played Twilght Princess between the ages of 14 to 18! 🤓😍🤓😍 Also don't google Midna 34.
@zakkarystory2352
@zakkarystory2352 3 года назад
@@rusteshackleferd8115 will now I'm gonna do it
@rusteshackleferd8115
@rusteshackleferd8115 3 года назад
@@zakkarystory2352 save yourself some time and trouble youtube search MMD Midna 18+
@EKOddLink
@EKOddLink 4 года назад
"To debates on why Midna is the best companion in the entire series" I don't know what you're talking about... How can you you have a debate *When there is no debate*
@HyruleGamer
@HyruleGamer 4 года назад
Yes
@abiwasabee6844
@abiwasabee6844 4 года назад
Midna 4ever
@Shotnthdark
@Shotnthdark 4 года назад
Ever played Spirit Tracks?
@TrumpCardMAGA
@TrumpCardMAGA 4 года назад
HEY, LISTEN! I wonder why Navi wasn't considered...
@Mlueberry_Buffin69
@Mlueberry_Buffin69 4 года назад
She is my favorite character in all of Zelda
@phykoha
@phykoha 4 года назад
I feel like the Twilight Realm existed a long, loooong time before the beginning of the game’s plot. So it would make sense that, even though the mirror was shattered in one timeline, it could still exist in others. In other timelines, Ganon wouldn’t be banished to the Twilight Realm, wouldn’t try to take over with Zant, and Midna wouldn’t need to shatter it. Despite the mirror not being in any other games, there could very well be other means to gain access to the Realm somewhere in the other timelines, mirror or not.
@darthshrek6659
@darthshrek6659 4 года назад
i think that the zonai might be decendants of the twili, as the green zonai-spirit-magic sort of energy have the same color as some of the twili and parts of the palace of twilight.
@zeldalina499
@zeldalina499 4 года назад
Unfortunately the magic is not confirmed to be Zonai but if it is your idea would make perfect sense I'm assuming you mean the BOTW trailer
@deadtoallnohonornohope
@deadtoallnohonornohope 4 года назад
I hypothesize that the twili are the decendants of the gerudo and sheikah + interlopers sent to the twili realm. Its possible that the sheikah genetic component is from 2 waves the first being the interlopers who might have a relation to the sheikah due to being really good at magic and the group sheikah who betrayed Hyrule's royal family before OOT . I also hypothesize that The sheikah are descended from humans who worked for the lanayru corporation before skyward sword. And if the interlopers and sheikah from the civil war who fought against the hyrule are the twili's ancestors it proves the sheikah have fought against the royal hylian family 3 times in the history of zelda the 3rd being the Yiga. If the twili returned to hyrule they could of became the zonai. Which means the zonai and sheikah could be distant relatives. Which would explain alot maybe the zonai found the kokiri art style appealing and applied it to their civilization.
@haruhisuzumiya6650
@haruhisuzumiya6650 4 года назад
Zonal seems to be inhabitants of the faron province in botw, minish cap and four swords adventures (FSA is the next Zelda game in the timeline)
@W11ngd
@W11ngd 4 года назад
I thought this too and because they use spirals and symbols have always been important in zelda
@BenteinBjerke
@BenteinBjerke 4 года назад
I think you're correct...but like...I also think that the Zonai aren't just the descendants of the Interlopers... *THEY ARE THE INTERLOPERS!*
@thedootslayer3339
@thedootslayer3339 4 года назад
Maybe all the similar mirrors where attempts to make a new mirror of twilight 🤔
@HyruleGamer
@HyruleGamer 4 года назад
Perhaps!
@_b3d612
@_b3d612 4 года назад
And that's why it was facing the cliff face in botw....
@samthomas1590
@samthomas1590 4 года назад
The only issue with the dark world being the twilight realm is that the game and other sources states that the dark world is a twisted sacred realm
@mindsight9732
@mindsight9732 4 года назад
Twisted by the triforce acting on Ganondorf's Heart/feeling. the sacred realm dates back to SS and has many names in english one of which being the silent realm which has it's own color hues. We aren't really show what shape the sacred realm was in before immediatly before OoT, or what shape it was in after the Interlopers got access to the triforce.
@rickjames5998
@rickjames5998 4 года назад
so what? Does that negate the twilight realm? They can still be one and the same.
@ligerjgold6686
@ligerjgold6686 4 года назад
@@rickjames5998 Not all alter world are the same. Look at Termina.
@znerd3664
@znerd3664 4 года назад
@@rickjames5998 the interloper war was before OoT, evidenced by Ganondorf getting sealed by the mirror. The sacred realm is NOT the twilight realm. They are two different things
@haruhisuzumiya6650
@haruhisuzumiya6650 4 года назад
The sacred realm is otherwise known as the Silent realm When link enters the gate it is undisturbed and thus a mirror of Hyrule When in LLTP it is distorted into the dark world.
@Pandaoniman
@Pandaoniman 4 года назад
I'll be honest here, I don't even care what the sequel is about if the devs somehow work any of the Twilight Realm, Lorule, Koholint, Termina, Labrynna, Holodrum, Subrosia, Wayway, Hytopia, or even Calatia, Koridai, or Arcadia, into the games as physical locations or separate maps. I want more Zelda lore than "Hyrule exists, oh no [insert dark force], we must defeat." There has to be more to their world than just Hyrule.
@DraxonTehWarrior
@DraxonTehWarrior 4 года назад
Pandaoniman Yeah, but like, Koholint doesn’t exist.
@hambartha
@hambartha 4 года назад
Pandaoniman, you've summed up my frustration of the series so far. More Zelda Lore is where the series needs to go. Superficiality is totally unacceptable and out of place when it comes to Zelda.
@Evilpricetag
@Evilpricetag 4 года назад
Walking through that twisted tunnel at the start of Major's mask have similar properties to the forest temples hallways led to a twisted world with matching characters from Hyrule, heck some Termina unique characters were recognized in twilight princess and the heroes bow from termina is found in death mountain. I'm more curious what that twisted power is that can alter an entire planet on either side. I hope we can go to the moon it Termina ever gets a sequel. Really looking forward to Candace of Hyrule Skull Kids story, I also hope Nintendo finds a way to make that story canon, there are really no plot holes, it follows all the rules, aside from a 2 outside characters accidentally finding themselves in Hyrule.
@hidden_animator522
@hidden_animator522 2 года назад
I would die if we got Koridai again “gOlLy”
@JadeJuno
@JadeJuno 4 года назад
3:10 I misheard "shadow beings" as "shadow beans" and that makes so much sense tbh xD
@HyruleGamer
@HyruleGamer 4 года назад
Haha
@zegendoflolda
@zegendoflolda 4 года назад
I'm down for some shadow beans
@honestyprofessorcaesarreal5091
@honestyprofessorcaesarreal5091 4 года назад
I'm glad you noticed how similar the "Twilight world" and "Dark World", there were even more similarities as well; the fact both are an apparent 'copy' of the real Hyrule, both the Links from ALTTP and TP had an alternate animal form when entering this world (Rabbit and Wolf) respectively and both of these games feature someone other than Ganon being built up as the final boss trying to unleash the hidden world only to have Ganon emerge as the actual final boss, both games also even had a dramatic climb up the main spire of Hyrule castle which is surprisingly not the most common thing in Zelda games that have Hyrule castle...
@jonathannixon5391
@jonathannixon5391 4 года назад
Except that the Dark World was confirmed in either the encyclopedia and/or the historia is actually a creation of Ganon after he was sealed with the Triforce of power in the sacred realm.
@GeseIIschaft
@GeseIIschaft 4 года назад
@@jonathannixon5391 It's said ingame and in the manual as well, it's the core story element so I'm surprised that it was missed...
@drolnogardgames4335
@drolnogardgames4335 4 года назад
I'm sorry, but wasn't the Dark World of LttP just a corrupted version of the Sacred Realm?
@ligerjgold6686
@ligerjgold6686 4 года назад
@@jonathannixon5391 Ganondorf was sealed with the FULL Triforce not the Triforce of Power.
@kannonball5789
@kannonball5789 4 года назад
@@ligerjgold6686 Yeah, it is; thus, the Dark World is the Sacred Realm corrupted by Ganon's evil.
@frankieannear
@frankieannear 4 года назад
Hyrule gamer: twilight princess is my all time favourite video game Me: good choice my friend, good choice
@ZonarohGaming
@ZonarohGaming 4 года назад
They also forgot to mention that Zelda, during the Champions Crowning memory, directly references the Twilight BY NAME. As such, new theory; A Twili becomes a companion to Link in BOTW 2 after finding a rune that lets him teleport there if he’s in front of special black rocks. The Twili adds Magic to links arsenal like it was supposed to be in Twilight Princess and allows him some magic. They use both the Triforce and the Fused Shadow’s Magic to defeat Ganondorf once he reincarnates.
@mrhuge8760
@mrhuge8760 4 года назад
Oh please oh please oh please bring back twili....and minda......pleeeeeeeaaaaaase
@axelmok4_channel391
@axelmok4_channel391 4 года назад
What if Ganondorf isn't evil and been influence by Demise curse the Demon Ganon, that Twinrova undoubtedly cultivated inside of him
@MXTURMOIL
@MXTURMOIL 3 года назад
YAS This is an absolute MUST HAVEEEE
@hayleystubbs591
@hayleystubbs591 3 года назад
Is it the line steeped in the glowing embers of twilight?
@ZonarohGaming
@ZonarohGaming 3 года назад
@@hayleystubbs591 Yep
@sad-marshmallow-lad6232
@sad-marshmallow-lad6232 4 года назад
BRING BACK THE CUTE IMP
@HyruleGamer
@HyruleGamer 4 года назад
Yes
@littlefox_100
@littlefox_100 4 года назад
She wouldn’t be an imp tho
@sad-marshmallow-lad6232
@sad-marshmallow-lad6232 4 года назад
@@littlefox_100 she will be if it's the last thing I do. I will curse her again
@damotoneko1500
@damotoneko1500 4 года назад
@@littlefox_100 Anyone else think her real form and impform looks hardly any alike? Her personality is so much clearer in imp form.
@nibirbaishnabchannel2125
@nibirbaishnabchannel2125 3 года назад
if twilight real gets a new ruler'dying by diseace'she reborn as an imp and start living with link that would amazing!
@lesbinyan
@lesbinyan 4 года назад
Breath of the Wild: filled with "personality" Twilight Princess: filled with "content" ~nya
@HyruleGamer
@HyruleGamer 4 года назад
Yesss haha
@gandalfdiggory
@gandalfdiggory 4 года назад
I would love to see the Twiligh Realm and the Twili back. TP is one of my favorite games in the franchise (def top 3), and that ending was heartbreaking.
@HyruleGamer
@HyruleGamer 4 года назад
Me too :D
@ChuckRuck523
@ChuckRuck523 4 года назад
If we ever see Midna or the Twilight Realm again I would go ballistic!
@littlefox_100
@littlefox_100 4 года назад
Aww man so you’d explode before u see it
@kristinaefremova6481
@kristinaefremova6481 3 года назад
when any zelda game comes out i go boom (IN eximent
@caydengarvey657
@caydengarvey657 4 года назад
What about the fact that the Mirror Shard effects Yeta and "brings out her darkness" like the mirror from Four Swords?
@HyruleGamer
@HyruleGamer 4 года назад
Interesting point :D
@DarthSanguine
@DarthSanguine 4 года назад
Bear in mind that when Link first travels to the Dark World in ALttP, he is transformed into an animal - just like TP Link when he first travels into a twilight covered part of Hyrule.
@AryannaCisnerosChannel
@AryannaCisnerosChannel 2 года назад
Just realizing this now.
@midna6863
@midna6863 4 года назад
I really hope we get to see the twilight realm again because the end is just too fricking sad 😢😢😢
@lisacarbone3346
@lisacarbone3346 4 года назад
:c
@littlefox_100
@littlefox_100 4 года назад
Fix it then Midna!!!!!!!
@raxsavvage
@raxsavvage 4 года назад
so heres a question... if ganon never went to the twilight rhealm... what happened to the mirror?
@ligerjgold6686
@ligerjgold6686 4 года назад
In the Downfall Timeline it should technically exists somewhere(but Midna would probably not be alive during the events of BotW/BotW2 In the Adult Timeline: at the bottom of the ocean.
@eljaminlatour6633
@eljaminlatour6633 4 года назад
You know there was a good comparison between the dark world from A Link to the past, and the twilight realm from twilight princess. Twilight realm and the dark world is like a prison. In twilight princess anyone who belongs to the light world turns into imprisoned souls, but Link turns into a wolf instead. In a Link to the past anyone who belongs to the light world turns into monsters, but Link turns into a pink rabbit instead.
@Maid_of_Spiders
@Maid_of_Spiders 4 года назад
I was also surprised they didnt mention both ALTTTP and TP Links turned into animals that represent their soul when exposed to the other world. Also like you said normal people turn into monsters/spirits. It is another point that the dark world and twilight realm could be the same place, even though it is stated that the dark world is a twisted sacred realm.
@ShieldRetro
@ShieldRetro 4 года назад
9:27 don’t forget the fact that when link uses the mirror he’s turned into an animal just like twilight princess
@sebastianuglyrat
@sebastianuglyrat 4 года назад
You never mentioned that in ALTTP, when link enters the Dark World, he becomes a Rabbit, similar to TP link becoming a wolf
@Guardian_Blues
@Guardian_Blues 4 года назад
I agree on Midna being the best partner. But seems she has a lot of haters
@littlefox_100
@littlefox_100 4 года назад
Yup
@TheSonicFairy
@TheSonicFairy 2 года назад
She was pretty hateable when we first meet her, as she's pretty bratty... but later on we get to warm up to her I don't have a clue why people would still hate her.
@adamerwin3307
@adamerwin3307 4 года назад
Good stuff bud Keep it up
@prequeltrilogy5812
@prequeltrilogy5812 4 года назад
What if the twilight realm is a dilapidated version of sky loft? Just thinking about how every location, including the one you can explore, is floating. That could just be to give it a nether worldly or void like vibe to it, but what if it is a segmented sky loft? Just a thought
@abzer0gaming
@abzer0gaming 4 года назад
The magic mirror in A Link to the Past DOES NOT transfer Link from the Light World to the Dark World, only from the Dark World to the Light World.
@HyruleGamer
@HyruleGamer 4 года назад
Small mistake, still works
@GeseIIschaft
@GeseIIschaft 4 года назад
@@HyruleGamer Rather large mistake honestly, as well the nature of the Dark World is fully explained within the game itself. Other than that I appreciate the ideas put in the video but those are two major blows against uniting ALttP's lore to Twilight's. Similar concepts, but very different implications.
@memesarekeem
@memesarekeem 4 года назад
@@GeseIIschaft But linking LTTP to TP in this video was described as the weaker entry anyways. So your comment is pointless.
@GeseIIschaft
@GeseIIschaft 4 года назад
@@memesarekeem It's not pointless if it's true and still relevant... Your response would moreso be actually pointless as it doesn't change what I had said whatsoever especially considering it was not contingent on how strong or weak of a link the video had presented, and it also seems to be based on pure negativity rather than acknowledging the truths that were presented.
@HyruleGamer
@HyruleGamer 4 года назад
My point of the Magic Mirror wasn't 100% for proof. Mainly just a comparable item as it DOES transfer link from world to another. Between the light and darkness, yes I admit I missed out the fact that it's a one way system but it doesnt break what I wa trying to imply. I appreciate the feedback and understand where you guys are coming from, I'll try my best to improve on that :)
@anderspettersson7490
@anderspettersson7490 4 года назад
The mirror in a link to the past takes you to ganon's dark, warped version of the sacred realm. The game tells you that, that is what the dark world really is.
@chaosphoenix2838
@chaosphoenix2838 4 года назад
Maybe this new world is something like the twilight relam?
@Crow_Rising
@Crow_Rising 2 года назад
If the mirror has existed since before the events of OoT then it should exist in all three timelines. If Breath of the Wild is merging the timelines together, then that means that a version of the mirror not destroyed by Midna could exist somewhere.
@MegaVirus700
@MegaVirus700 4 года назад
The mirror in Lurelin village is most likely the dark mirror since they're descendants of the zonai that inhabited the faron region, where the mirror was hidden in the forest temple
@mattlawrence6077
@mattlawrence6077 4 года назад
MegaVirus700 there is zero proof of that. Creating a champion states by a developer that the zonai’s only purpose was to give a sense of ancient and ruin. They are a called a mystery tribe so the developers wouldn’t have to explain them or give them back story.
@coenfinn6121
@coenfinn6121 Год назад
Maybe, because the new legend of Zelda gameplay shows how the new hand works, allows you to go through things, and is in a greenish color similar to the spirits in twilight princess. This could resemble one of the artifacts keeping ganondorf in place by when link killed him, trapping him again in the twilight realm, and when the hand was released like it was in the trailer, it shows him escaping again. So that hand could probably be one of the keys too getting back to the twilight realm
@silversaiyan3783
@silversaiyan3783 4 года назад
I like your guys stuff, but you missed something big. The dark world is the sacred realm tooken over by Gannon once he got the triforce in the sacred realm. The interlopers were banished to the twilight realm so they couldn't get to the triforce.
@zeldafanboy725
@zeldafanboy725 4 года назад
It’s mine to, The story and vibe of the game is something else I just love it . I remember playing it when I was 10 and playing the game and getting stuck and stuck Again and again, tbh scared me a lot mainly the one cutscene when after you complete the water temple you get attacked by Zant which frightened me 😂, and then seeing the dark links. Recently replayed the game in lockdown and it’s still decently creepy 😂👍🏽
@JustINsideGaming
@JustINsideGaming 4 года назад
In ALttP, the Dark World is just a corrupted Sacred Realm where Ganon was sealed. The Twilight Realm is not the Sacred Realm. So the mirror in ALttP would have no connection with the Twilight Realm unless of course all of the mirrors just generally have the ability to transport between any realm and not specifically to and from the Twilight Realm/Dark World. Also, any timeline other than the child timeline could/should still have the official Mirror of Twilight since the mirror was created before OoT and would exist in every timeline, so the Twilight Realm could reappear in another game set in a separate timeline
@TrumpCardMAGA
@TrumpCardMAGA 4 года назад
I like that you and MNB do so much together I didn't even have to click on your video after watching his, it just was the "up next" video on autoplay. Pretty damn convenient
@HyruleGamer
@HyruleGamer 4 года назад
Love to hear that! :)
@ytreaper3654
@ytreaper3654 4 года назад
Best video I've ever seen
@randomtheorist251
@randomtheorist251 2 года назад
17:49 Bandit: "A new, reuniting sort of timeline following Breath of the Wild." Me: Checks upload date. "Yeah, this is before Age of Calamity."
@The_8onbon
@The_8onbon 3 года назад
my random thing I thought of as an easter egg, maybe in BotW2 there is a secret mini dungeon which had a few familiar faces such as the twilight monsters ect, once at the end of the dungeon a cutscene would play, it would show Link walking up to the Fused Shadow, then when Link got close enough the Fused Shadows would be sucked into a twilight portal and you could hear Midna's laugh. *Keep in mind this is a random thought I had and it MOST likely is NOT in the actual game!*
@Safrina001
@Safrina001 4 года назад
I find you delightful because I too am a hardcore stan of both Midna and Twilight Princess as a whole, and it’s so nice to be able watch someone talk at length about this game and k n o w that I won’t suddenly have to listen to a disclaimer about how it’s actually the worst lmao
@michaelbrousseau1075
@michaelbrousseau1075 4 года назад
Hate to point out magic mirror in link to the past transports you from the dark world to the light world not the other way around
@freddavis2861
@freddavis2861 4 года назад
Dude, come on. I'm already excited about the sequel. This is making the wait unbearable. Also makes me think that the quote " it will be a darker game" has a double meaning
@HyruleGamer
@HyruleGamer 4 года назад
Haha
@AkioSonada
@AkioSonada 4 года назад
I always took the 'see you later' as her way of saying goodbye because unlike 'goodbye' which is a finality, 'see you later' is less sad, it implies you aren't seeing this person for the last time. So after her adventure with link it was too sad to say good bye for good so it was just a 'see you later'
@pancakenips3689
@pancakenips3689 2 месяца назад
3 and a half minutes of intro and plugs, thank you
@FayMew
@FayMew 4 года назад
Okay if they don't return in the future I'm going to be legit mad, I'm so hyped, I loved Midna so much 😭 But as some stated, the end, even if it hurt me so much as a child, was perfect. It put an end to that part of the story.
@Mendouja
@Mendouja 4 года назад
I’m a streamer who decided to beat all the Zelda games on stream. My favorite timeline is the one that Majora, Twilight and Four Swords fall under. I really hope that in the new sequel they do tie up some loose ends. Especially with twili. Thank you for this video.
@thethirteenthgate3117
@thethirteenthgate3117 2 года назад
I'm I the only one who noticed that links zonia arm has glowing green markings just like the people of the twilight realm
@TJ-jr1ix
@TJ-jr1ix Год назад
Anyone notice the top of Midnas true form headpiece is Kotake and Koume? Direct Gerudo reference. Also 2 dragons, on the headpiece, and the back of the cape...zonai similarities
@NoMoreNever
@NoMoreNever 4 года назад
Twilight Princess is not my favorite Zelda game of all time, but it does have one of my favorite characters in it, Midna. The ending still hits me in the feels like only something from a Zelda game could. I don't own a Switch so I haven't played BotW but I'm always going to be invested in LoZ, the lore and the setting and its characters. If the Twilight Realm ever makes another appearance in future games, as I've always wished for, I can only hope Nintendo does it justice in relevance to the plot and also allows us to explore it beyond just the palace we saw in TP. Interesting video! Speculation is always fun :)
@kash0r
@kash0r 4 года назад
Thank god. There are still people with good taste and common sense to see that twilight princess is way better than botw.
@HyruleGamer
@HyruleGamer 4 года назад
Lol
@AmethystFoal
@AmethystFoal 4 года назад
SO GLAD I FINALLY FOUND ANOTHER TWILIGHT PRINCESS ALL TIME FAVORITE VIDEOGAME PERSON
@bdhuffman42
@bdhuffman42 4 года назад
Just a quick point. The Magic Mirror actually connects Hyrule and the Sacred Realm. Your point still holds, though! Great video.
@cj_johnson9915
@cj_johnson9915 4 года назад
Very interesting video topic. I recently aqquired LoZ MM and OoT on the 3ds and I am so excited to play them for the first time! Keep up the great videos
@abiwasabee6844
@abiwasabee6844 4 года назад
Something else to point out is that all of the Ancient Sheika Technology has either light blue or fiery orange markings, which are very similar to Twili markings. I know it's a small detail, but it still counts.
@frankieschwartz7632
@frankieschwartz7632 4 года назад
To back up the end of the theory, regarding the Zonai, maybe someone should look more into those Typhlo Ruins? Y’know, the city-like Zonai ruins plunged in eternal darkness?
@TheSonicFairy
@TheSonicFairy 2 года назад
Uh huh... I think I see what you're getting at.
@frickinfrick8488
@frickinfrick8488 3 года назад
Bringing back the dark world for a future game would be a lot of fun, probably not in exactly the same way as Link to the Past and Twilight Princess, but with a new spin on it. I’m not exactly sure what that spin would be, might be a fun thing to talk about. Regardless of gameplay, I’d really just like to know more about the history of the dark world. I love the theory that the dark world exists in all timelines just under a different name, so I wanna know what happened to make each version so different. It’s just a really cool place to explore and flesh out with lore.
@marimus7453
@marimus7453 Год назад
Just a thought, what if the floating islands of the twilight realm are above a cloud barrier, just like in skyward sword? The surface could actually look more like a dark, mirrored version of hyrule, like the dark world! Or it could be very different, which would be just as interesting! In twilight princess there are still islands floating in the sky, so the idea of a forgotten or unexplored surface world in the twilight realm doesnt seem so far fetched to me. It could be that the twilight depths go on forever, but thats also what the people in skyward sword were led to believe… (coincidence? I think NOT!) I think its also interesting how the game with the shadow realm of floating islands is also the game that introduces us to an ancient, forgotten race of sky people above hyrule. So if theres a surface underneath a twilight cloud barrier, the next question would be, why did the goddesses put it there??? Is there maybe also a connection to the demon tribe mentioned in skyward sword? Where there people living on the sky islands before the interlopers were banned and became the twili? Were they separated from the surface to be protected from the dangers below, or were they separated to keep the surface safe from them? And do the twili know about the surface, or are they unaware of it? Idk but i think there could be a lot to explore!
@nagato9645
@nagato9645 Год назад
So I haven't yet watched the full video, got about halfway through then another little theory popped into my head. At 5:39 we can see the lower left quarter of the mirror, and in Breath of the Wild, there is a shattered monument that looks almost identical this mirror shown in the video. What if, the remains of the mirror have somehow survived the huge timespan and multiple great calamities (at least two, one 10,000 years before Breath of the Wild, and one more 100 years before the events of Breath of the Wild) and has found its way now to the beachfront in Breath of the Wild's Lurelin Village instead of in the ruins of the Arbiter's Grounds in the Gerudo Desert. The remains of the mirror like object on Palmorae Beach looks a lot like the mirror show in the video, but seemed to serve an unknown purpose other than having text written around all four fragments of the object's pieces supposedly translating to directions on how to reveal a shrine. Now there may be some evidence against this theory in that I don't see any other pieces of the mirror shown in the video at 5:39 unlike in Breath of the Wild where we can find the remaining 3 fragments of the lookalike object. I believe that while in reality it's more than likely just a reference to Twilight Princess by the devs similar to how Darmani from Majora's Mask is carved into the mountains by Goron City, but from a lore perspective I believe it is possible for the shattered mirror like object on Palmorae Beach by Lurelin Village is possibly the Mirror of Twilight from an age that has long since passed
@acromis3178
@acromis3178 4 года назад
OMG imagine in some new Zelda game Link travels to the Twilight realm and meets with Midna. Midna could say something like "Oho, so your the new Hero this time. he he he" or something like that
@kyr58
@kyr58 4 года назад
3:10 - "The peaceful Shadow Beans..."
@TheLegoMaster261
@TheLegoMaster261 4 года назад
I really hope we get a Twilight Princess sequel that looks like the Zelda Wii U tech demo.
@pixywings
@pixywings 2 года назад
My theory is that the Shadow Realm, Mirror Realm, Twilight Realm and Lowrule are all the same dark reflection of Hyrule. Traveling between the worlds is not normally possible and is never easy, but sometimes someone (usually a dark wizard) will discover a way to make a portal to this other dark world. Using things like The mirror of Twilight, Moon Pearls, the Magic Mirror, Cracks between worlds, the Dark Mirror and other magical means to travel back and forth. Connecting the two worlds usually causes all kinds of problems to both worlds. Be it monsters, earthquakes, or people disappearing from one world and ending up lost in the other.
@varanus5622
@varanus5622 3 года назад
The symbols on that monument also resemble the color the doors & holographic platforms glow in the Twilight Realm.
@bobsundin5865
@bobsundin5865 3 года назад
What if the Gerudo know where a nother mirrore is but over time that forgotten about the mirrore
@globaled1694
@globaled1694 4 года назад
3:11 peaceful shadow bean
@Gamer1288
@Gamer1288 3 года назад
13:47 Isn't there an NPC in A Link to the Past who specifically states that the Dark World was once the Sacred Realm and that Ganon's Wish on the Triforce transformed the Sacred Realm into the Dark World. It was the NPC who supposedly watched over the Triforce.
@vidster7
@vidster7 4 года назад
Loved the zelda community having a peace theories and commentaries Unlike other stuffs
@MsjEsUsFrEaK73
@MsjEsUsFrEaK73 4 года назад
I always liked the Twilight Realm better than Hyrule. I love Twilight, and the completely different feeling you get being in that realm. I wish they could have made more areas to explore there.
@HyruleGamer
@HyruleGamer 4 года назад
Awesome :D
@fnspidey3825
@fnspidey3825 4 года назад
Twilight Princess is also my favorite game and I hope to see this return or to see or hear if Link found away back to Midna
@Merennulli
@Merennulli 4 года назад
The obvious answer to me is other timelines. The timeline specifically shows the "Banishment of the Twili" as the first noted incident after Skyward Sword, meaning it's before the timeline split. That means in the Adult Timeline and Defeated Timeline, the mirror is potentially intact up until the "that's not how timelines work" moment that is Breath of the Wild's place on the "timeline". Since the temporal spirit train wreck shows evidence of all three timelines leaving behind artifacts, it's entirely plausible that between the shattered one from the Child Timeline and the two mirrors of unknown status of the other two timelines, the mirror could be in some state of limbo that a plot device could restore it fully from. Of course, there's also the origin of the mirror being the same three entities we know were active in the Adult Timeline to spray Hyrule with Flex Seal and then flood it. They could always just, you know, re-create it. "It's been 100,000 years, we can let the Twili out on good behavior as long as they promise not to create any more eldritch abomination helmets or try identity theft again on the Hero of Twilight or his girlfriend."
@benhuckaby
@benhuckaby 4 года назад
Not gonna lie, I didn't know there was debate around Midna being the best companion. I thought that was universally agreed upon. (By the way, love you two and the channel in its entirety, man!.)
@JOK23RGAMER
@JOK23RGAMER 4 года назад
I hope it will return to zelda series that will so much fun for the next zelda game
@Dingus_Khaan
@Dingus_Khaan 3 года назад
I have an idea bouncing around I'm my head that the Twilight Realm isn't quite an alternate Dark World or Lorule. It is instead a "border world" of sorts between the realms of light and dark, somewhat akin to Xen in the Half-Life series, complete with floating islands. This is hinted at largely by the word "twilight", which is the light seen between full night and sunset/sunrise, the times between night and day. The Twili themselves have a theme of duality to them, being neither of the light or of the dark, but can clearly be influenced by both. This is most easily shown in their appearance, with their skin/clothing appearing as swirls of black and white.
@ArinJager1
@ArinJager1 3 года назад
it's a mirror dimension - quite literally (you even enter through a mirror)... Like real mirrors, you lift your right hand, your reflection lifts its right hand... think about what that could mean ;) (also Midna is their "zelda")
@TheKnightguard1
@TheKnightguard1 4 года назад
It would be nice to see Twilight stuff again, and it’s cool to see all these little evidences compiled in this video, but I feel like that final scene of Twilight Princess had just one job: to close the book on the matter. The Zelda series is indefinitely ongoing and it has a variety of fantastical elements that could plot-device the Twilight Realm right back into relevance (like the Triforce itself as another user pointed out) anytime the writers wanted them, but I think it’s very intentional that they closed the door on Twilight the way they did. There is merit to stories and characters having a beginning, middle and end, and it’s exhausting to keep extending an arc when the original inspiration has run dry. Zelda already has an example of what happens when this course isn’t allowed to happen in the form of its own main villain, Ganon. We know he’s always going to be around but, if you’ll notice, he’s received hardly any meaningful development since The Wind Waker was over. Zelda has often shifted focus to middleman villains like Zant, where also many pointed out that all Ganon did in Twilight Princess was twirl his proverbial mustache before he died, while also worthy of note is that Skyward Sword and BOTW both carefully avoided the issue, one by giving Ganon a creator (who himself is mostly obscured behind Ghirahim’s stage presence) and the other by making him mute and mindless. They’re trying to avoid being forced to write his character as much as possible but the series will always be intrinsically tied to him, and it shows as BOTW2 is on the way and is presumably about the real Ganon this time. I have no doubt they don’t want more than one literary pickle like that. They have every power to bring whatever they want but that scene meant in this case they don’t want to. They locked the door and threw away the key on Twilight; a decision I think might have been the right one.
@Zarvain
@Zarvain 4 года назад
I have one problem with the dark world from Link to the Past being the Twilight Realm; that being that in the game the dark world is explained as the corrupted form of the Sacred Realm (by Ganon's influence), and at the end of the game it is restored to its pure form with a quick shot of this being shown in the end credit crawl. And if I remember correctly, the Twilight and Sacred Realms are two different worlds.
@androidpriest
@androidpriest 4 года назад
IM APPLAUDING YES THIS IS RIGHT IN LINE WITH MY THINKING that i posted on MNB's vid, and holy hell i really hope its true, i miss the twili so much--they're my fav zelda race and culture ;w; THANK YOU for this side note: i wonder if that glowing green energy people theorize to be zonai energy in the botw trailer could also have some twili relevance due to the potential connections between the races? (the zonai architecture/iconography also shares a lot of similarities w twili architecture/iconography which im sure you've noticed as well) idk maybe its wishful thinking but i just really want the twili back shdfldkshf
@Orlando-io7pi
@Orlando-io7pi 4 года назад
Throughout Twilight Princess, Zant was able to travel between Hyrule and the Twilight Realm without the use of the mirror. Midna also revealed that she was able to do this. After Zant attempts to kill her, she tells Link that she can no longer travel to the Twilight Realm without Zant's power. This is the entire reason why they sought the mirror in the first place. Thus, it's reasonable to believe that travel between realms is not only still possible but possible without the need for an artifact. Zant's powers in Twilight Princess were previously unknown to the dwellers of the Twilight, so it's very likely that his ability to travel between realms freely was only possible due to the immense power of the Triforce of Power that Ganondorf had housed within him. However, the Triforce of Power and the complete Triforce itself have their ways of reappearing when it's most convenient for Nintendo's development schedule, so it's possible that this power can be used again to create another connection between the realms in the future. It's also possible that there's still a connection between the realms - either a physical object or an ability to teleport - that does not include the Triforce or the Mirror Of Twilight. When the light spirits banished the interlopers to what would become known as the Twilight Realm, they also fragmented the embodiment of their dark magic - The Fused Shadow - into four pieces. Three of these pieces were sealed away in the depths of dungeons spread throughout Hyrule, but one of these pieces somehow ended up within the Twilight Realm; Midna would later come to wear it as a helmet after being transformed by Zant. While it is possible that this fragment was always left in the Twilight and passed down over time, it's also quite likely that the light spirits wouldn't have wanted any of the Fused Shadow to be left there and had the fourth piece sealed away as well, only to have it stolen at some point later on. If the latter is the case, then there would be past instances of travel between Hyrule and the Twilight Realm, which would further increase the likelihood of the two worlds crossing once again.
@adnnebs
@adnnebs 4 года назад
I love your channel ! Will you make a face reveal ?
@geklethegremlin8066
@geklethegremlin8066 4 года назад
Something i have noticed is if your favourite zelda game was ocarina of time before 2017 the now your favourite zelda game might just be breath of the wild now but if your favourite zelda game is something else (e.g twilight princess) then it it likely that it is still your favourite zelda game but not always
@lsmith6046
@lsmith6046 4 года назад
My favorite Zelda game is Majora's Mask, and nothing is changing that anytime soon.
@antjesseharrismusic
@antjesseharrismusic 4 года назад
I've seen this loosely mentioned but I want to see where the train of thought may lead: OoT: Rauru exists in the Sacred Realm and says Ganondorf's heart/desire has corrupted it, leaving only the Chamber of Sages safe. ALttP: The Dark World is stated to have been corrupted by Ganon's attaining the Triforce and being imprisoned. Both ALBW and TP have world's that are stated to be "different sides of the same coin" in earnest, different shades of the same world. The time of which the events of the Interlopers is not specified, but we do know that Ganondorf's banishment through the mirror leads to a similar corruption of the Twilight Realm as to the Dark World and the Sacred Realm prior. So I have two thoughts. The first is that if Rauru could exist in the Sacred Realm along with the Sages, who are not described as immortal, then why couldn't there be other races/societies existing in the Sacred Realm at all points in the Timelines? Even the idea that the Sages are dead when awakened in OoT still leaves the question of why there are always new or alternate Sages existing to replace the old ones, who usually cease to exist as normal beings in Hyrule. The second thought is that, as far as I can think of, no single Zelda game has ever allowed there to be more than one alternative accessible world, so wouldn't it make sense for all of these alternate worlds to be different states of the Sacred Realm? Access is almost always only granted to those "blessed by the gods" and tied to the Triforce (the Twilight Realm may not stated to havve a strong connnection to The Triforce, but there is the Triforce central to the mirror), and it is often easily warped by magic, especially that associated with the Triforce. But now I'm thinking, why is the Sacred Realm usually left to be corrupted by Ganon/Ganondorf? If his piece of the Triforce and his desires are enough to ruin it in OoT and seep out into the temples, why is it that neither Link nor Zelda create one that is a purified paradise of sorts? Maybe too much thinking lol
@valeriewilson991
@valeriewilson991 4 года назад
I have this weird feeling that the Zonai and Twili have some some sort of connection
@mattlawrence6077
@mattlawrence6077 4 года назад
S-Master Gaming Read creating a champion then. According to a developer the only purpose the zonai served was to create a sense of ancient and ruin in the game. They left the tribe a mystery so they wouldn’t have to spend their time explaining them.
@morriganmhor5078
@morriganmhor5078 3 года назад
One question: If the Mirror was broken years before Zant and Midna got into Hyrule, but at least Midna needed it to return to her home country, how they did it? And how Zant was able to return to Twili even when the Mirror was not yet reconstructed? Was it in the power of Ganondorf perhaps? But why would he do it for Midna? To torture her by the light (at the same time Zant was covering Hyrule with twilight)?
@IAmEvilTree
@IAmEvilTree 3 года назад
One thing that could support the existence of multiple portals is that there's every chance the Twili likely would only know of the one. The Interlopers were banished by the golden goddesses to the Twilight Realm and intended to never return. If they knew multiple ways in and out of the Twilight Realm existed that would increase the chances of them escaping. So the goddesses, in full control over the information about the Twilight Realm, could have easily lied and said there is only one. The Twili, decedents of the Interlopers, would only have their information to go on and thus believe that the mirror in the Arbiters Grounds is the only entrance.
@vannuck101
@vannuck101 3 года назад
Simple solution: Timeshift stone brought to arbiters grounds = fixed mirror of Twilight.
@Garfleed
@Garfleed 4 года назад
A potential long shot here, but I like to think the green hand we see in BOTW 2 trailer that is holding Ganondorf's skeleton is of a Twili, Midna to be specific. If the Twili are indeed to return in future games, this would be a really good nod to Twilight Princess.
@DJWoozie
@DJWoozie 4 года назад
14:30 Or maybe since the light world and the dark world mirror each other, while ganon was running his course on hyrule and the light world, destroying things, the dark world's settlements were growing and flourishing, giving the appearance it did in the Link to the Past.
@Gamerwolfhowl77
@Gamerwolfhowl77 4 года назад
What if in *Breath of the wild 2* there's a quest where we can extract Twilight power from a Twilight relic to go back into the Twilight realm? Or another quest in *Breath of the wild 2* where you find all the shards of the Mirror of Twilight, (or most of it) and rebuild the Mirror (or most of it) to be able to go to the Twilight realm as long as you want? (or for a temporary amount of time.)
@speedy_brennan
@speedy_brennan 4 года назад
It make sense that there are other entrance or exits to or from the Twilight realm. In Twilight Princess we have to put the Mirror of Twilight back together to get to the Twilight realm but knowbody brings up the fact that the Twilight infected the world of light. That means there was another way for the Twilight to access the world of light.
@sparkiebunnie8
@sparkiebunnie8 4 года назад
I have this weird theory that the Sheikah are somehow connected to the tribe and that's why those in the Twilight Realm have magic. The Palace of Twilight has a similar feel and look to other structures (Tower of Gods, BotW shrines, etc), so I wouldn't be surprised. I also believe the Lord of the Mountain is from the Realm, due to his strange markings and how odd his faces look, but that's more of a playful theory lol.
@cassidymaenia
@cassidymaenia Год назад
"...midna is the best companion in the entire series, which she is obviously." did anyone actually question that? does midna actually have any competition?
@othymanx6670
@othymanx6670 4 года назад
One thing I just glanced at in the Zelda Encyclopedia is that the Dark World in Link to the Past is the sacred realm tranformed after Ganon got the Triforce. The Twilight Realm is not the Dark World. The light spirits went into the sacred realm, got the dark interlopers out, and banished them to the twilight realm. Not sealed into the sacred realm which was transformed into the twilight realm. The twilight realm was a different place.
@HighmageDerin
@HighmageDerin 4 года назад
My own personal headcanon regarding the timeline placement of breath of the Wild as being at the end of all three timelines which it is is that what if the Calamity that takes place ten thousand years ago where the sheikah tribe had to build the Divine beasts and the Guardians 2 combat the Calamity Ganon was because of a merger between all three timelines cataclysm that brought in the worlds from Wind Waker Twilight Princess and the original Legend of Zelda games, including Link to the Past Link's Awakening and the various Game Boy games, caused by demise trying to pull himself back together. As the timeline split not only caused the different realities, but also split Demise's soul amongst them , weakening him. While the man Ganondorf himself found himself in the Wind Waker timeline, his human side without the influence of demise regretted his actions and allowed the Wind Waker to deliver the final blow, if you remember he almost looked content with the outcome like he wanted it. And then with split between the the Twilight Princess timeline and the link to the past timeline like where the spirit of demise was split. Imagine if you will but the death of Ganondorf at the Wind Wakers hands, somehow strengthened the other two pieces of Ganon, allowing him to try to pull his divided self back together but in doing so cause they merge between the three timelines, pulling all the locations people and places together into one reality this merge would be pretty chaotic and some landmarks would probably get pushed around to try to locate himself into this new reality. And what if in order save the world the gods themselves came into play to reorder it but could not stop demise and so gave the sheikah the knowledge and power they needed to build the Divine beasts and Guardians in order to seal away once again denies now known as the Calamity Ganon...... That's just my little headcanon though I'm kind of hoping that breath of the wild two will shed a little bit more light and have it confirmed timeline placement in a reason as to why locations from all the timelines show up in one world. But for now my idea works for me. And with the Calamity taking place 10,000 years before the start a breath of the Wild nobody would ever know the truth of what really happened inside their own world.
@ItatsuMagnatsa
@ItatsuMagnatsa 4 года назад
I had an Idea for a Sequel to Twilight Princess. However it takes place Sooner than any of them would Expect.
@tehhypergamer963
@tehhypergamer963 2 года назад
I got a theory, even though the mirror was destroyed, the chamber in which it was housed wasn't. If the Arbiter's Grounds we see in BOTW is in fact the same one from Twilight Princess, (albeit in ruins and covered in sand) then the chamber, or at least what's left of it, could potentially still be there.
@GrimmShadowsII
@GrimmShadowsII 4 года назад
Unless there's been a retcon, The Dark World isn't the Twilight realm it's the sacred realm shaped by Ganon's power/wishes. It's possible that if you could leave the Chamber of Sages in OoT you might see areas that look similar to areas of the Dark World in LttP. Also it might be possible that the interlopers were sealed away before the timeline split which means they could make a game in one or both other timelines. If the theory that BotW takes place after the 3 timelines became one again; then maybe what caused them to rejoin was a major event that happened in all 3, say a magical object like the twilight mirror being destroyed.
@alexcarreras6955
@alexcarreras6955 Месяц назад
The twilight realm may be coming back in Echoes of wisdom, specially due to the similarities between the twilight realm's floating islands, and the floating islands shown in the rifts of echoes of wisdom.
@GameMasterKyro
@GameMasterKyro 4 года назад
The problem with the Twilight Realm being the Dark World is that the Dark World is actually a corruption of the Sacred Realm, which was transformed when Ganon obtained the completed Triforce. The Sacred Realm is where the goddesses created the world from and is essentially a holy land. Using a holy land as a prison doesn't really seem like the kind of thing the goddesses would do; while the Sacred Realm HAS been used as a prison in the past, as Ganon in A Link to the Past was sentenced there, this was done as a preventative measure to keep the King of Evil and his minions from swarming across the kingdom, and was not actually done by the goddesses but rather was a command from the King of Hyrule.
@benjaminh.clement1292
@benjaminh.clement1292 4 года назад
I know it would be the most boring way, but, there is a really easy way of making the Twilight Realms (that I really don't think is also the Dark Realms but I understand the logic) return. Remember the Triforce? If the weilder is a curious Zelda who red about it in some old book talking about the Twilight Realms and wished for a new way to travel there or at least asked for how to create a new mirror. Maybe that's why we see Zelda and Link finding Ganondorf in the Trailer. Maybe she needed some of its essence to get to the Twilight Realms
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