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Could you make effective ARMOR out of TIRES? 

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This tire armor is crazy
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@Grubnar
@Grubnar Год назад
Wait! Are you telling me that the Super-Mutants from Fallout were actually super smart?
@kostekszewczyk6286
@kostekszewczyk6286 Год назад
raider blastmaster armor also had tyre pauldrons in fallout 3 and new vegas from what i remember
@FirstLast-wk3kc
@FirstLast-wk3kc Год назад
Play original games, they are not futuristic orks as fallout 3 ad 4 shows them
@mattp2557
@mattp2557 Год назад
​@FirstLast-wk3kc yea but they were made using a different fev strain
@Cheezitnator
@Cheezitnator Год назад
Only accidentally. Tires are easy to find.
@rcbecker1
@rcbecker1 Год назад
I wear tire Bob. I like tire it good. (Super Mutants might have something there.)
@arcticbanana66
@arcticbanana66 Год назад
A lot of people think tires are just thick rubber, but it's actually pretty hardcore material. Why, it's almost as if they're specifically designed and engineered to mitigate this kind of damage.
@CP_BlessedDad
@CP_BlessedDad Год назад
While tires are extremely durable, as intended, by design; they used common tires. Tires that have special speed ratings, are designed for off-road usage and racing tires are on completely different levels. Many specialty designs are actually kevlar impregnated for the purpose of preventing penetration.
@nicreven
@nicreven Год назад
@@CP_BlessedDad don't put the words "impregnated" and "preventing penetration" in the same sentence 😭
@CP_BlessedDad
@CP_BlessedDad Год назад
@@nicreven next thing know we'll be seeing this in the comments "An OBGYN has entered the conversation" 😂
@seanmurphy6480
@seanmurphy6480 Год назад
Burns real nasty tho
@elishafollet5347
@elishafollet5347 Год назад
​@@seanmurphy6480as long as no one in the apocalypse has a fully functional flamethrower or affective way to set u on fire u should be fine. And besides ide be more worried to be the flamer dude since the tanks on flamethrowers are highly explosive and can get sniped from afar, meaning you and who's ever next to you would pretty much explode and die.
@RaydeusMX
@RaydeusMX Год назад
The best part about this is you can just keep some tires around and no one would ever suspect they are materials to make some armor in an apocalyptic scenario.
@jackson102881
@jackson102881 Год назад
Make the armor now. Or just get Kevlar now; then you're already prepared.
@adamstanisaw2892
@adamstanisaw2892 Год назад
@@jackson102881 kevlar is pretty bad timewise, you need to avoid sunlight as much as possible. Cause light degrade it relatively fast.
@Fantastic_Mr_Fox
@Fantastic_Mr_Fox Год назад
or just have armor *now*. That tire sure as hell isn't bulletproof either
@jacquesstrapp3219
@jacquesstrapp3219 Год назад
@@Fantastic_Mr_Fox You would be surprised how resistant tires are to bullets. In my experience, soft nosed and hollow points have poor penetration, but full metal jacket goes right through.
@Fantastic_Mr_Fox
@Fantastic_Mr_Fox Год назад
@@jacquesstrapp3219 well, that's better than I would have thought. Not much, but still smth. I'm assuming you mean 9mm?
@ifarded4986
@ifarded4986 Год назад
Another thing to think about is supplying a hypothetical army with this. It would be INFINITLY easier to get unskilled laborers to cut tires all day rather than good smiths to make comparable armor.
@zedtheexplorer5206
@zedtheexplorer5206 11 месяцев назад
Yeah I think it’s perfect in the post apocalypse. The vast majority of people who survive aren’t gonna have metalworking experience just by nature of statistics. Those people still need armor so the stuff that’s easy to make is great
@ShrockWPS
@ShrockWPS 9 месяцев назад
​@@zedtheexplorer5206 I tend to disagree with that. I feel the ones that would survive well are the ones already homesteading and living independently. I've met quite a few blacksmiths in those circles so far.
@Errafri
@Errafri 8 месяцев назад
​@@ShrockWPS Not the question. If you are going to feild an army. This is "good enough" as you would be ready faster and woth less ressoyrces than asking for a blacksmith to make something equivalent. That way the blacksmith can focus on doing things that are actually necessary.
@Sol_Invictus777
@Sol_Invictus777 7 месяцев назад
@@zedtheexplorer5206 especially if you get a solid pattern to cut the tires into where it has overlapping plates and is more form fitting nothings getting through besides guns
@Dover78
@Dover78 Год назад
For future reference, an abrasive metal cutting wheel is what you should use for tires rather than a sabre saw.
@squelchotron8259
@squelchotron8259 Год назад
yeah, they need a grinder.
@r3dp9
@r3dp9 Год назад
I'd imagine you'd need to be very careful with what kind of grinder disk you use, as they tend to explode if used on a material they aren't meant to cut.
@Go-ah-oold
@Go-ah-oold Год назад
My first Idea was a water saw, however, I do not know how expensive they are.
@barryon8706
@barryon8706 Год назад
He needs to contact that guy who built a real lightsaber. Right tool for the right job.
@Go-ah-oold
@Go-ah-oold Год назад
@@barryon8706 I do not think heat is a good tool to cut a tire, it will create smoldering rubber and burning fragments, weakening it. That is the reasin why I think a water saw would be good. Every grinding disk will heat up and cause damage to the tires.
@mickeymaguire5696
@mickeymaguire5696 Год назад
Shad "missing" both shots and hitting straight into Boromir is hilarious to me. The man is too lethal
@kalebscott282
@kalebscott282 Год назад
He can't help but target weaknesses. He is a true predator.
@demondkiller666
@demondkiller666 Год назад
Task Fail Successfully!
@ajax3310
@ajax3310 Год назад
Whoever thinks 100% electrical damage resistance isn't overpowered in 2023 is living in the past smh
@Kedamojo
@Kedamojo Год назад
Actually, really good point. On top of taser resistance/immunity, there are probably some engineer people out there capable of making dead rising electric weapons.
@Telios__
@Telios__ Год назад
Well am wheeling to give that armor a try if am going to a teaser fight
@ilikefire9710
@ilikefire9710 Год назад
Yeah, it’s great for gazers, but it’s not overpowered. Guns are still the highest power of 2023, not to mention, most common.
@Dan_Kanerva
@Dan_Kanerva Год назад
​@@ilikefire9710so if i travel to the past i should take a tire armor with me?
@firekeeper1870
@firekeeper1870 Год назад
​@@ilikefire9710 In a post apocalyptic setting, you'd quickly run out of bullets. Also, most people don't have guns, so in most places of the world, you wouldn't really have to worry about guns and bullets all that much to begin with.
@thomasconnors4338
@thomasconnors4338 Год назад
I’ve found a few 38 and 9mm rounds embedded in junk tires out in the desert. Tire armor is definitely a winning idea. If you really went crazy with design so you could add a hardened layer behind at least for your center mass, my guess is that someone could empty an AK into your chest and you’d still be able to cough out “got you last” with your final breath.
@alexanderrahl7034
@alexanderrahl7034 4 месяца назад
A soft fabric over the skin, some street signs over your vitals, and then the tire armor. I would wager a guess that it would be fairly hot and heavy, but I would also bet you could survive _most_ low to mid tier weapons. Knives, axes, swords, and some low caliber shots. But you definitely wouldn't be bulletproof. Everything would transfer to kinetic force in some way, you'd likely get a lot of bruising and some internal damage
@Sp33LzZz
@Sp33LzZz Год назад
As an occasional dungeon master for my friends I am going to bump the effectiveness of tire armor in my post apocalyptic campaigns now. At least for melee damage
@yetanotherspuart3993
@yetanotherspuart3993 Год назад
Makes perfect sense
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue Год назад
Melee and low-velocity projectiles alike.
@PackthatcameBack
@PackthatcameBack Год назад
I actually tried making my own tire armor a few years back and just like you guys say, its tough stuff. I couldn't even get through the treads with bolt cuttersand had to use a hacksaw, which only did the job through monumental effort. And yeah, it's not bulletproof, but against literally any other weapon it's nearly indestructible. A lorica made using tires would be really cool to see.
@martinstensvehagen9161
@martinstensvehagen9161 Год назад
I think if you have access to a water jet cutter, that would do it. atleast if someone wants to make some non slap dash armor at some point
@HomicideJack187
@HomicideJack187 Год назад
I feel like some of this stuff over top of a ballistic plate would do the job, since it's essentially it's own spalding protection by virtue of being rubber and having a steel mesh in there to fragment bullets. Ballistic plates are already obscenely good at level III, especially AR500 steel, and level IV (or Russian level 6) plates with tire material over it would largely negate any high power rifle calibers - as far as physical penetration goes. The problem with even those higher tier body armors is the same problem which applies to gambeson and chain mail, which is energy transfer. You might stop the projectile, but you might still die due to blunt trauma.
@Gr3nadgr3gory
@Gr3nadgr3gory Год назад
They have steel cables in them, makes sense you'd need a hacksaw.
@doejhonny
@doejhonny Год назад
I had tremendous success with 18inch bolt cutters, I just had difficulty holding the tire in place while I lined up the cut. I wasn't working on a project, I was just cutting them up for storage, but if I clamped it down on a workbench that would have solved most my issues.
@Cr0nTV
@Cr0nTV Год назад
In fact, the tire can withstand bullets like a bulletproof vest of the first or second class.
@gameragodzilla
@gameragodzilla Год назад
Speaking of armor, funnily enough modern Kevlar actually isn’t that great at stopping blades because the sharp pointing metal can slip between the fibers that are designed to catch bullets. A lot of bulletproof vests designed to also stop stabbings use other materials as well. EDIT: You need to somehow contact Demolition Ranch and have him test out tire armor against bullets. lol
@gexianhen
@gexianhen Год назад
this remindme a image that circulated internet last year of a police group trying to stop a guy who was armed with a machete and even when they ahve ballistic shields and bulletprof gear they dont come nesar him... in fct they send a police covered in Chainmal to get him. chain gloves an even the chain cover in the head and neck. it was so weird cause u asume the bulletproff gear should be good enough to defend against baldes
@Audiotrocious
@Audiotrocious Год назад
YES!
@goreobsessed2308
@goreobsessed2308 Год назад
Piercing is hard to stop you basically need hardened plates for that. Hardened plates suck at catching high velocity bullets though. It's all give and take
@elementalist1984
@elementalist1984 Год назад
Maybe if you did multiple layers and maybe a layer or two of kevlar
@gameragodzilla
@gameragodzilla Год назад
@@goreobsessed2308 Yeah, that’s why plate carriers have Kevlar backing behind the ceramic plates. The plates break up and slow down the bullet into smaller, lower velocity pieces, and the Kevlar catches the fragments so they don’t enter vital, squishy areas.
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 Год назад
The rubber itself binds on any blades, which slows things down and adsorbs enough energy to make the steel wires harder to penatrate than just cutting the steel. The rubber would also help reduce the severity of blunt force attacks.
@aaronburkeen6409
@aaronburkeen6409 11 месяцев назад
It also dulls the blade. So if it does get through its lost striking power from the rubber and has been dulled by the steel. So all you need is a way to work it and your set. Maybe build a cutting torch using a propane tank and a gas hose. They are built to last so they would still be around.
@argiedude3762
@argiedude3762 10 месяцев назад
Hit with hammer, mace, or fire, noted
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 10 месяцев назад
@@argiedude3762 Fire would eventually work, but tires are kinda resistant to all 3 of those things.
@AxleTrade
@AxleTrade 9 месяцев назад
Something blunt but with a tapered pointy end to stab through seems to do the trick. I imagine a war pick would be a nightmare for this kind of protection because it could rip chunks or the entire thing off the wearer. A mace or a flail could still do the trick since the rubber may not break but the skin and bones under it will, if the hit was hard enough. In terms of fire, I reckon prolonged exposure to intense temperatures would be to the detriment of the armor too. Rubber under a hot sun won't do the wearer any favors nor would the cold be as forgiving.
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 9 месяцев назад
@@AxleTrade honestly tires would still be pretty tough when dealing with something like that.
@ManDuderGuy
@ManDuderGuy Год назад
Shad's just out there spinning weapons around. Checks out.
@grantpflum6844
@grantpflum6844 Год назад
Don't worry, their nerf.
@mkv2718
@mkv2718 Год назад
Big scary swings
@1738Creations
@1738Creations Год назад
He's a wind turbine.
@heathb4319
@heathb4319 Год назад
Yep... My favorite clip of his is the one where he shows Deadpool a real flourish with the heavy metal music. Best ten seconds of the channel in my opinion.
@Vandalizer1231
@Vandalizer1231 Год назад
I used to work in tire installation and that steel belt is no joke. Shredded my hands a number of times on blown out and very worn tires. Awesome episode. Rock on, guys!
@jamestalbot6916
@jamestalbot6916 Год назад
I have got to say, I did not expect the shadiversity content to improve as much as it has, this is incredible.
@Jimalcoatl
@Jimalcoatl Год назад
Agreed, Nate and Tyranth are really doing a great job.
@chickenwing_3230
@chickenwing_3230 Год назад
Yea, this new line-up is really entertaining and watchable, having diferent people makes it easier on the attention span tbh (for me atleast)
@jmulchrone1
@jmulchrone1 Год назад
If you revisit this I suggest using an angle grinder with a steel cutting disc. It will be a lot faster to cut the steel wire than the rip saw but very smokey.(might want to go all out with ppe) If you cut them into smaller plates and overlap them you'll basically have modernised samurai armour. Lapping will increase weight but smaller plates will help with weight distribution and reduce the stiffness problem.
@lotharrenz4621
@lotharrenz4621 10 месяцев назад
A co-worker of mine tested that out, and the tyre ate up the grinder's cutting disc as soon as you went into the thread... I think that the embedment of the wire layers make them swing instead of cut through, and so they eat away the material instead. you'd have better success with a tin scissors and a strong hand; it is how they cut tyres up to make sandals soles out of in africa, actually.
@jmulchrone1
@jmulchrone1 10 месяцев назад
@@lotharrenz4621 if you plunge cut the blade will be eaten but take it slow going back and forth across the length of the cut and you should get a few cuts per blade.
@lotharrenz4621
@lotharrenz4621 10 месяцев назад
@@jmulchrone1 That could work. I also realized tonight while sleeping, that I assumed you had mentioned the standard cutting blade made of fibres. Instead you meant a solid steel disc with diamonds on it, right? That would last considerably longer of course, as the steel fibres would dig into the fibres of the standard cutting disc. You can watch it go down like butter, really. So, yes. Your method would work way better.
@autismuskaefer
@autismuskaefer Год назад
I find this video particularly interesting because in the movie 'demolition man' (which is actually pretty old already) they showed a dystopian future where the poor people had to protect themselves from the kinds of weapons you showed in this video and so they actually wore tire armor. That is why it was interesting to see this armor in a test and this choice was actually pretty good for the movie in terms of realism.
@adamlanglois563
@adamlanglois563 Год назад
PVC armour makes me think of home depot storm troopers
@MrDmitriRavenoff
@MrDmitriRavenoff Год назад
That's a fun movie. Total camp, and fun.
@koatam
@koatam Год назад
They also did it some times in Mad Max.
@mikeparsons1746
@mikeparsons1746 Год назад
I grew up on a cattle ranch in America, and we used old tires to build fences. After decades of wear (cattle rubbing on them, being out in the weather 24 hours a day, etc) they looked virtually unchanged. Wooden fences would have collapsed long before. Modern tires are very tough, and this was a cool demonstration of that fact.
@jvin248
@jvin248 Год назад
Rubber comes from trees -- so a tire fence is possibly still a 'wooden fence' ;)
@brokefangmagepunk3685
@brokefangmagepunk3685 Год назад
Not nearly as intensive as livestock rubbing against it but my old elementary school had a long line of half buried tires to jump and play on. They were there before I went to school and 20 years later they are still there in relatively the same condition
@waitwhat238
@waitwhat238 Год назад
6:56 That was actually such a WONDERFUL shot! If that wasn't on purpose, at least tell everyone it was totally on purpose. Got the dummy right between the armor and right in, I think, the Liver. Probably a killshot even if it wasn't the liver just because this is the dirty apocalyse and infection is a concern again.
@heathb4319
@heathb4319 Год назад
I saw that happening even before that shot happened and thought of this. There are motorcycle tires as well that are just as tough. Cut it in to smaller lengths and turn it the opposite way as a cap for the inside lips of the larger tire pieces. Kind of like using a C to hold together a UU so the it caps it off. I think i am going to make a set of this type armor and start experimenting.
@mr.tiddles556
@mr.tiddles556 Год назад
I’d love to see the aluminum alloy street signs are made of tested. I’ve made some apocalyptic armor out of it, and it seems remarkably tough for its weight
@Aliyah_666
@Aliyah_666 Год назад
I'd say combine that with alloy with the tire armor in a layered fashion, tire, metal, then a diy gambeson. Got you some pretty effective armor right there. Won't stop a gunshot at least not without ceramic or using a decent plate of steel instead of aluminum. Maybe just use kevlar for the gambeson.
@GameHoardGame
@GameHoardGame Год назад
itd stop slashes and cuts but a stab would get through, but would definitely be mitigated to a large degree.
@mr.tiddles556
@mr.tiddles556 Год назад
@@GameHoardGame when I was younger I had a street sign and a T-post that I had used an angle grinder to put a relatively long and narrow point on. I did some (very unprofessional) tests with that, and it actually stopped most of the penetration. But the weapon I was using was very crude, so I have no idea what something like a war pick would do
@GameHoardGame
@GameHoardGame Год назад
@@mr.tiddles556 if your relying on armor that is crude itd be a post-apoc scenario, and you would face a lot of crude weapons. Being able to stop slingshot/sling bullets would be important and a sign would do that. stopping the effects of simple clubs made from wood would be important as well. in the post apoc not everyone will suddenly have swords. Hell the rungs of a chair tapped to the outer parts of your arms is decent enough against slashes and impact.
@Thatninetykid
@Thatninetykid Год назад
I use to work at a auto shop and the amount of people that actually came into the shop and thought tires were just rubber simply amazed me.... they had no idea their is a metal belt in there
@matheusbee3441
@matheusbee3441 Год назад
They never heard someone say they had ran their tires down to the wire?
@scaleworksRC
@scaleworksRC Год назад
And the silent armors even had a belt of Kevlar in them. I'd say great for slash protection and some pierce, but no firearms.
@Thatninetykid
@Thatninetykid Год назад
@@matheusbee3441 I had someone that had the wire sticking out and she thought she ran into a wire lol
@steemlenn8797
@steemlenn8797 Год назад
@@matheusbee3441 Seems to be a US thing. Here in Europe, where we drive less and lighter vehicles... not to mention that this is highly dangerous and therefore illegal... I actually have the opposite problem. My tires (and oil) look like they are new when they are at their end-of-life based on time, had several mechanics comment on that.
@jordazmo19
@jordazmo19 Год назад
What about wearing it down to the tread?? I've know that since i was a child 🤦‍♂️ Although i will admit i didn't quite fully realize just HOW MUCH more there are to tires besides just rubber 🤷
@volvo245
@volvo245 Год назад
Certainly good option if you are trying to build an army as a post-apocalyptic warlord on a tight budget. Tires are ubiquitous and as an added bonus when done right the armor will look menacing.
@BigE1986
@BigE1986 Год назад
I would love to see you actually make a full proper armor set from this
@mariobenedicto3582
@mariobenedicto3582 Год назад
Me too... I've been looking for something like that a good while back but no luck... There's just one small problem I remember... tires STINK!!! And I mean as in smell bad!
@thire7432
@thire7432 Год назад
I recommend using an angle grinder to cut the tires.
@blue13rain48
@blue13rain48 Год назад
Would japanese plate armor designs work better? What if they sealed it in some sort of epoxy for the smell?
@liamonoanonymous6642
@liamonoanonymous6642 Год назад
@@mariobenedicto3582 i think most would get used to it. Mail armor has an odor but that didnt deter its use
@Its_A_Gundam
@Its_A_Gundam Год назад
That would be awesome
@TheModScientist
@TheModScientist Год назад
The wire is called "belting" and is woven. Additionally, it's usually layered with woven nylon. Durable and flexible, while resistant to heat and friction.
@GreasyBeasty
@GreasyBeasty Год назад
This episode reminded me of Mythbusters when they did the paper samurai armor. A thin but layered rubber suit of armor would be so rad, so long as nobody has any blunt pointy bits on sticks laying around.
@Aaa-vp6ug
@Aaa-vp6ug Год назад
It also contains some steel plates, depending on tire
@kikixchannel
@kikixchannel Год назад
No matter what you say, that spike wouldn't do all that much piercing damage. It did not go deep enough to kill, that's for sure, especially when the armor in front is not actually touching the body, not even near it. By the time it would get to it, much of the force would be lost. This armor proved to be more effective against ALL of these weapons than most regular armors meant to stop said weapons. And its rubber...Attacking it with the likes of swords could seriously have the swordsman hurt with the vibrations going back, maybe even attack bouncing off somewhat in an unfortunate way.
@dposcuro
@dposcuro Год назад
@@kikixchannel It may not go deep enough to kill, but it did go deep enough to wound, and cause actual damage to deeper tissue, which can inhibit your ability to fight, which can then get you killed. Course, that is only a 2 ply light car tire. Some tires may have 3 plies, or even more. Heavy truck tires definitely have more, and the rubber itself is harder. Light Truck tires likely will have 3 or more plies, but also All Terrain, or Mud Terrain tires might have reinforced sidewalls with Kevlar or other materials thigh might work for more flexible areas. To be honest, look for heavy load rating, high endurance (long life) tires for the most resilient tires, or ones with anti-puncture technology.
@kikixchannel
@kikixchannel Год назад
@@dposcuro I do not really agree with you. For it to cause actual damage to deeper tissue it would need to have enough energy left after piercing. Part of that energy was transferred to the 'armor' simply for the sake of pushing it closer to the body (again, it is quite stiff and it is supported on the sides of the body, since it IS a tire, and not a flat panel). Part of it is obviously going into the piercing force. Then it will hit whatever you may have underneath and also your ribs. Does it have potential to affect your fighting ability? Certainly. There is no need to even pierce an armor. Blunt weapons are absolutely meant to affect your fighting ability even without piercing the armor itself. All depends on how much energy is transferred to the body. However, while I do not say that it does NOT have that ability, I am saying that the length that the spike pierced shows only a potential of doing that, not a certainty or even a very high chance. There would need to be something on the other side that would show the passage of force and potentially the depth that the spike could pierce something underneath, but unless a hole was cut into Buster...putting a slab of meat or whatever there would give false results (as it would be closer to the armor than actual wearer would).
@claytonjacobs4098
@claytonjacobs4098 Год назад
the axe spike went in deep enough to hurt. Hard to tell from our perspective as viewers, but i would say it drew blood, any wound is a thing to be avoided. They distract you, slow you down, and weaken you....also shock from even a minor injury is a factor.
@scribblingjoe
@scribblingjoe Год назад
It makes sense. Tires are made to resist punctures under tons of force. The one thing I would say is it doesn’t deflect attacks very well.
@theromanorder
@theromanorder Год назад
4:00 axe test 4:32 sword test 6:16 spear test 6:35 bow 7:25 thoughts
@CoNteMpTone
@CoNteMpTone Год назад
The hero we needed
@theromanorder
@theromanorder Год назад
@@CoNteMpTone this is one of my smaller ones... I got a bit lazy lol
@AlphaSections
@AlphaSections Год назад
Where's the .50 Cal test?
@carsonrush3352
@carsonrush3352 Год назад
Another good improv armor material is a ream of printer paper with a stone tile on the front, all wrapped in duct tape. A couple reams of paper will block any pistol bullet. Maybe this would be a good shield to carry with your tire armor.
@GU5S
@GU5S Год назад
As a mechanic I was very confident tyre armour would be highly effective. Great video guys, your content of late is brilliant
@Midala87
@Midala87 Год назад
So a tire can hold up to a sword but not a screw. Gotcha.
@GU5S
@GU5S Год назад
@@Midala87 are you driving the sword in with the weight of a car behind you 🤨
@michaelmccoy1794
@michaelmccoy1794 Год назад
​@@GU5Ssome people don't think before they ask questions.😊
@MrRandomguyTom
@MrRandomguyTom Год назад
​@@GU5Sgreat reply. Exactly what I was going to say 😄
@Aliyah_666
@Aliyah_666 Год назад
​@@Midala87Oh boy my man....getting cooked in this comment section. But anyways yeah these guys are right. You don't weigh like 3000 pounds, if you did the sword probably would make it through.
@theinacircleoftheancientpu492
The vulnerability of tyre armour is definitely its gaps and piercing damage. The other nice thing about rubber is that it closes back up somewhat, even if it doesn't really self heal. For cutting, I recommend shears rather than saws.
@spoonsareoccasionallymadeo5728
A pair of bold cutters would do wonders.
@theinacircleoftheancientpu492
@@spoonsareoccasionallymadeo5728 Definitely better than timid cutters. 😜
@spoonsareoccasionallymadeo5728
@@theinacircleoftheancientpu492 Best spelling mistake of my life.
@Bradzerker-ed2dj
@Bradzerker-ed2dj Год назад
Use LT rated tires. They come with extra steel belts due to the increased load capacity plus those types of tires will have deeper tread as well.
@GuitarsRockForever
@GuitarsRockForever Год назад
Yes, LT and some 4wd tires.
@inthefade
@inthefade Год назад
Sounds way too heavy.
@theaveragepro1749
@theaveragepro1749 Год назад
@@inthefade yeah sounds like the rubber doesn't do much, but keeps the wires from moving out of the way
@Kyle-sr6jm
@Kyle-sr6jm Год назад
Rubber works well against blunt object
@GuitarsRockForever
@GuitarsRockForever Год назад
@@inthefade You see those trucks on road? They wear the tyres out to the last of tread (legally). Once the tyres got off, they are pretty flat, so weight is not that much of problem. The extra steels may add a little bit, but considering the weight of normal tyres, I don't think that will be an issue either.
@natalijalaonar8187
@natalijalaonar8187 6 месяцев назад
Yes. Didnt realy need a video to tell me that, but it was a fun watch :) Shad and&co's banter is gold!
@SolarinDay
@SolarinDay Год назад
Fascinating, combined with some padding, this is some seriously effective armor!
@PRESIDENT_LEMON
@PRESIDENT_LEMON Год назад
to add to the post apocalyptic theme, just tuck a pillow behind it and boom, padding.
@Riceball01
@Riceball01 Год назад
One of the crew should wear that armor then test how good it is at stopping blunt force trauma. Start with light blows using a murder stroke from a sword, gradually hitting harder and harder. If nothing is really felt from the sword, then move up to harder hitting things like maces and bats to see how the armor stands up to those.
@SolarinDay
@SolarinDay Год назад
@@Riceball01 the tests were to see the effectiveness of blocking fatal cutting and piercing strikes. Even modern armor doesn't work well against raw kinetic energy. High end Kevlar body armor can stop a 4bore rifle round, but the kinetic energy from the hit will still be fatal even if the round doesn't penetrate.
@Riceball01
@Riceball01 Год назад
@@SolarinDay I understand it, but they did briefly test the tire armor against a murder stroke. Not to mention that tire armor is far more rigid than Kevlar is and so will react completely differently to blunt force trauma/impact than Kevlar does. Kevlar is really nothing more than layers of a sophisticated fabric layered together with the weave running different directions from each other in each layer. Because it's a textile material, it's soft and that's why you feel the impact of a bullet hitting it even when the bullet doesn't penetrate. A tire is different, it's rubber and thus it's rigid, albeit with a bit of give, at the same time, it also causes objects to bounce off of it thus negating some of the kinetic energy by directing some of it outwards. So it's going to act like a cross between metal armor and fabric armor with some of its own properties and testing it on an actual person wearing it would be the only real way of testing how effective it would be against blunt force without resorting to expensive sensors.
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 Год назад
Particularly if it is built with some overlap to avoid the easy gaps.
@Eckister
@Eckister Год назад
I was thinking about looking into making mods for Project Zomboid that would add forging and one of the things I was thinking about was tire armor, glad to see I wasn't off on its effectivity. Though I WAS surprised by just how effective it is. 😲 Also - VERY happy to see that Shadiversity is back to its rational educational content! 💝👏👏👏
@geo-fury
@geo-fury Год назад
I'll be darned. The "Tire Armor" gimmick actually has functionality.😳🤯
@unclecorey1495
@unclecorey1495 Год назад
The one thing I think of when I see tire armor in movies like Demolition Man is, ‘Damn that’s gotta be heavy.’
@Umbreona
@Umbreona Год назад
I love how Shad takes his shots and goes right through the weak spots lol! He has some scary aim apparently.
@purgeutopia8696
@purgeutopia8696 Год назад
I love, love, love the mythbuster style transitions and explanations.
@robertross5201
@robertross5201 Год назад
With firearms I’ll point out that larger calibers, particularly in pistol ammunition do not necessarily have greater penetration. A .45 caliber round has more knock down power and will cause greater wounds than a 9mm however the higher muzzle velocity of the latter would almost certainly result in higher degrees of penetration. Rifle ammunition is similar in many ways but the sheer power of the bullet weight combined with how much gunpowder is used does lend a certain amount of certainty that larger calibers will be more effective.
@rpk321
@rpk321 Год назад
.45 DOES have slightly better pen than 9mm, tho.
@robertross5201
@robertross5201 Год назад
Slower muzzle velocity by far, I own both
@rpk321
@rpk321 Год назад
@@robertross5201 and I have watched videos of people who does test seriously with high speed camera. And they don't only do 45 and 9.
@SatyreIkon
@SatyreIkon Год назад
I never thought of this and immediately added it to my "projects" playlist! I've got two flats lying around and was going to use them to plant veggies, but now they'll become a set of post-apocalyptic armor. 😎 Thanks for the inspiration!
@iseriver3982
@iseriver3982 Год назад
Who would've thought that something that has to carry tons of car, at high speed, over long distances, would be tough.
@darkherostar
@darkherostar Год назад
ikr. Our lives are literally being carried on something for thousands of miles of usage. Can't be too wrong with 'overengineering' the tire part. lol. Definitely would want to make my own cool end times armor! 😁
@claytonjacobs4098
@claytonjacobs4098 Год назад
Plus it is RUBBER. it is literally made to absorb impact and redirect force.
@LokiCDK
@LokiCDK Год назад
So leave about half the sidewall, use that create lashing that mounts the upper and lower halves of the plate, the sidewall should help it to maintain some of its shape, the void behind the tire creates by that provides additional protection for the wear.
@NoPantsBaby
@NoPantsBaby Год назад
The tire knight! Slightly lethargic but rolls along anyway.
@malkomalkavian
@malkomalkavian Год назад
Sir Michelin
@Cheezitnator
@Cheezitnator Год назад
Genius. Make the armor so you can crouch down and ball up yourself then roll like a transformer. Lol
@yetanotherspuart3993
@yetanotherspuart3993 Год назад
Lol
@Kraleck
@Kraleck Год назад
Now I'm curious about other post-Apocalyptic protectives... road sign chest plates, car door shields, repurposed safety gear (welding gear, sports padding, denim overclothes, etc.), plastic bucket pauldrons, and more.
@steemlenn8797
@steemlenn8797 Год назад
If you make your plastic buckets out of "bear safe" plastic... I would still not trust it to stop a good stab or even shot.
@The-Rod
@The-Rod Год назад
0:18 I was exactly like shad when I was younger. I was hoping for the zombie apocalypse so bad it sounded so fun! And maybe I’m still a little excited for it. 😂
@odotawaissaku3755
@odotawaissaku3755 Год назад
My friends and I roleplayed it so often haha. I miss those days roaming the streets with our stick guns.
@gradesam6306
@gradesam6306 Год назад
wow, I've had thoughts about this recently, thank you for the in-depth analysis on the matter shad!
@lanesmith1465
@lanesmith1465 Год назад
Before the video starts, I'm gonna say that tire armor would work. It's like leather but better.
@nitebox3609
@nitebox3609 Год назад
I would love to see an in depth video of you guys making a proper suit of tire armour!
@noblemagi
@noblemagi Год назад
Years ago we sent bullets downrange at a black object, 338 and down. When we were done we walked over to it. Not a hole in it, it was a semi airbag, it stopped every bullet and no damaged to the metal
@angmohnize-to-atasify
@angmohnize-to-atasify Год назад
Love the hilarious skits and the new creativity of his channel. The idea on tire armor really makes sense. Shad should do a side quest to manufacture a full body armor suit out of bullet-proof military Humvee tires (mold it into kind of a scuba diver wet suit that you can easily zip into), then layer it fire-proofing material... ...and you will get the ultimate fire-proof, water-proof, cut-proof and bullet-proof suit that will be relatively light weight (compared to plate armor) and yet its highly flexible too. I think all of Shad's fans will buy them without second thought. Lol.
@allenfox7186
@allenfox7186 Год назад
Just an FYI, there are multiple layers of steel “ply’s” in the crown (top or where the tread is). It’s supposed to be resistant to puncture even more so when you get to industrial tires that’s when the standard number of Ply is doubled to triple due to amount of abuse it takes while on the job but not recommend for makeshift armor due to how heavy and annoying it is to cut (from personal experience). Also Tyranth the ring is called the “bead”.
@svenanimations
@svenanimations День назад
I made my own, and it ended up pretty good, I used a hand saw on the rubber and an angle grinder on the metel. Took a while though
@mikesemus9773
@mikesemus9773 Год назад
Makes me wonder if a steel wire + Gambeson combo could result in a lighter weight, but extremely effective composite stab-proof type armour. Would likely be slightly heavier than Gambeson, but could potentially match high quality chain mail. To go further perhaps silk + steel wire to reduce weight even more, but combine the silk and steel properties. Interesting stuff guys, love it!
@Devin_Stromgren
@Devin_Stromgren Год назад
But how would you keep the wires in place firmly enough that a blade wouldn't just shove them aside?
@mikesemus9773
@mikesemus9773 Год назад
@@Devin_Stromgren would have to glue them with something and laminate multiple layers so they form a lattice much like a lot of carbon fibre is formed. I mean i'm no expert on rubber but could use that as the glue since it's so effective. Basically a thinner tire that has an extra layer of steel, sandwiched between a few layers of silk. In theory the silk would be extremely resistant to piercing, combined with the rubber behind and the steel i would imagine a high level of effectiveness.
@MrGhosta5
@MrGhosta5 Год назад
Sounds like a corset.
@CinnamonToastKing
@CinnamonToastKing Год назад
The "opening cinematic"/title intro is top tier and a great change!
@fellowchucker7224
@fellowchucker7224 Год назад
I surely hope no one treads on your good time. How people can tire of such things is beyond me. These videos really vulcanized the fan base.
@DH-xw6jp
@DH-xw6jp Год назад
[Throws tomato] Have a beer, wordplay that bad deserves a drink. Lol
@heathb4319
@heathb4319 Год назад
Damn you even used the science word in there to really cap it off.... Chapeau Sir...Chapeau.
@clayweaver2066
@clayweaver2066 Год назад
This is fantastic! I'd love to see a steel-belted radial version of a Wisby armor. Use a Kevlar gambeson and you are melee and bullet proof!
@assasinsbear
@assasinsbear Год назад
I am 100% integrating this knowledge into my post-apocalyptic TTRPG campaign
@evilparadigm
@evilparadigm Год назад
I watched the end bit of you guys talking to spite the algorithm and laugh at you guys. Love the videos. You've come a long way Shad and crew!
@hawkticus_history_corner
@hawkticus_history_corner Год назад
Well I was planning on getting around to this at some point, but thank you for getting me moving on it. Don't worry, I'll shoot some for you Shad.
@C0nnor_Live
@C0nnor_Live Год назад
IDEA: I was curious about the automatic knifes and how they work. Then I got to thinking bout an "Automatic Sword" would be. I'm not talking about a collapsible blade, more a retractable blade. I imagine it would be as effective or perhaps MORE effective though there is still this part of me that says "It wouldn't work", and "that should not exist". Of course the hilt would be the size of the blade but that doesn't seem to be too much of a problem, maybe even an advantage. It could also surprise your opponent during or before combat. IDK, I thought I could spit the concept out there and maybe y'all could run with it or not its up to y'all. TY M8s
@Bradzerker-ed2dj
@Bradzerker-ed2dj Год назад
Try using carbide bits and aluminum oxide cutting discs on a pneumatic die grinder tool. That should make cutting through the tire much easier...I hope. I need to try this at my workshop.
@carloguerrero6583
@carloguerrero6583 Год назад
its been 10 minutes. Status report :D
@frosty3693
@frosty3693 Год назад
I deal with truck tires, to penetrate the metal belts in the tire you need a point fine enough to push between the metal wires. (nails screws ect. ect. things like large bolt need the force of 8,000 pounds with little "give" to punch through)The spike on an axe type point or an arrow with a fine point and you need enough mass in the blow to push through. Lorica segementata would be interesting. Larger segments could be made with wide sport car tires (much wider) that have had the tread worn down to highway replacement time would be as good but lighter. (and most tire shops will give them to you). For larger sections get heavy truck "super single" type tires. The tread of a 455/45- 24.5 truck tire could make an interesting breastplate.
@milkmyway2
@milkmyway2 Год назад
This newer formula is fantastic
@taqresu5865
@taqresu5865 Год назад
As soon as Nate said, "cats and dogs are living together," I was immediately reminded of that Bill Murray quote from Ghostbusters.
@NickNapoli
@NickNapoli Год назад
This video is brought to you by Goodyear Tires. Not just for cars anymore.
@matthewmorris6378
@matthewmorris6378 Год назад
Thanks for testing! I use a used tire for stick practice, and had similar damage to my sword when I used the tire for practice cuts.
@Telios__
@Telios__ Год назад
well this is a well rounded idea seems to roll well with alot of different weapons my mind would be spinning trying to design something like this pun intended
@mikel1784
@mikel1784 Год назад
Filled with dirt stack of tires makes for great defence walls that last ti even blast near them so yes of course it works ok as armor.
@texanplayer7651
@texanplayer7651 Год назад
This means the Michelin man is invincible
@HectorLopez0217
@HectorLopez0217 Год назад
Then his final is the Staypuff marshmallow man
@DH-xw6jp
@DH-xw6jp Год назад
Molotovs.
@adamlanglois563
@adamlanglois563 Год назад
He's a rubber golem, a modern unstoppable monster
@The_Judge300
@The_Judge300 Год назад
Some years ago I tested shooting at a standard car tire with my 70 lbs 32" DL compound bow and 650 grain heavy arrows. I was able to shoot through one layer with good penetration with the right arrow heads, but the steel wire in the tire totally ruined the arrow heads and the carbon arrows. I also tried with a 50 lbs longbow with around 400 grain arrows and then the arrows had no chance at penetrating and in fact could work well as an arrow stop.
@johannesbowers7467
@johannesbowers7467 Год назад
You saw all the variants in the Road Warrior. Imagine taking the time to go full Gothic Plate with a mix of Steel Belted Radial, Off-road Run-flat, Tractor/Lorry and such to make a Black Knight that would NEVER have to say "Tis but a scratch!"
@johannesbowers7467
@johannesbowers7467 Год назад
Ohhhhhh..... combine Shad's observations with your Flex-seal video. Take a Chainmail shirt and "augment" it with the Liquid Flex Seal set up on vital plating areas.....
@thefatefulforce8887
@thefatefulforce8887 Год назад
Nice video. It would be interesting to see how some type 7 (square section) needles would perform over your M2 Tudor bodkins. Different arrow heads are more efficient against different materials, and I suspect against the rubber/wire mesh composite, the needle will perform a bit better than broad heads and warbodkins.
@XxAIZxX
@XxAIZxX Год назад
Rubber is one of those things that looks flimsy until you try to break it
@oscarjosefsson9300
@oscarjosefsson9300 Год назад
Wow! Far better than expected! I thought the pike on the axe would do it and it did. But seemingly just barely. I wish I could see it tested with guns now though I realise that some other channel would probably need to do that.
@RainMakeR_Workshop
@RainMakeR_Workshop Год назад
I've seen full on late medieval plate armour made out of car tyres before.
@jamesbrown4092
@jamesbrown4092 Год назад
Back on the farm, we used to cut up old tires with an angle grinder with a metal cutting disk. You get a good number of cut out of a disk with the added bonus of eliminating every mosquito within a hundred miles.
@dustinthewind357
@dustinthewind357 Год назад
Yes! I've been commenting on videos about fantasy armor about how they should test fallout/mad max tire armor. Oddly enough I don't think I ever did it on a Shad video, but definitely on Metatron and skall
@Corndoggo
@Corndoggo 5 месяцев назад
After seeing this video, I was inspired to make tire armor of my own. I messes around with design ideas, and eventually concluded that the design you came up with is the best. After making the tire armor, heres what I have to say: First off, it is heavy and uncomfortable as hell. To be fair, my tires were a lot heavier than yours. However, i only made the upper half of the armor and pauldrons, and IIRC it was 20-25 pounds. I made straps using paracord and ducttape at the top and a belt at the bottom that went around my stomach. I wore it on and off for Halloween at school and by the end up my day my shoulders were on fire. Second off, when using thicker tires like I did, they are absolutely unstoppable. I havent been able to test them much but i would wager that the thicker tires i used are twice as strong. Overall, the cost of the project was 20 bucks for the tire i used, 10 bucks for rope/ tape, another 5 for a drill bit(all other tools/blades i already had). Im considering buying a harness which would be an additional 25+ dollars.
@buckduane1991
@buckduane1991 Год назад
If you are curious how this armor would hold up to bullets, Shad, I recommend reaching out to Scott at “Kentucky Ballistics”, I bet he would be as curious as you, and I’m sure he’d be open to working with you. The axe and spear would have still have been grievous. The thing about bullet armor, soft and ceramic, that people don’t realize is that armor might catch the bullet, but it does not stop the energy of the round. It might stop a .500 S&W Magnum bullet, but it will push the armor itself several inches into the body and be a permanent plug several inches across. The same principle applies here. The axe or spear might not penetrate, but the energy delivered will still break ribs-especially when seeing the dummy being knocked over backwards. It maybe synthetic rubber, but unlike cartoons it will not stop the impact force, merely slightly blunt it. There are a lot of good examples on “Kentucky Ballistics” channel where he demonstrates this using elephant guns and large caliber pistols being tested on armor, including .460 Rigby, .375 H&H Mag, 4 Bore, and even the Nitro Express series of .470, .500, .600, and even .700. Sometimes, ironically, the armor can be deadlier than to be straight up hit by the round in question, since the bullet (if it’s a FMJ or otherwise designed for penetration) might have passed through the body whereas hitting the armor literally turned it into a 4-8 inch (roughly, 10-20 cm) wide spike running through the body and out the other side. Physics can be weird, and Kevlar is not always your friend, especially when speed is involved.
@scott_hunts
@scott_hunts Год назад
Tires are often used as bullet traps because low caliber bullets have trouble passing through them.
@WJS774
@WJS774 Год назад
If you think that those spear and axe strikes had _anywhere near_ the energy of a high calibre magnum bullet, I really don't know what to say to you.
@violetopal6264
@violetopal6264 Год назад
Wow, it held up a whole lot better than I thought. Also LOVED the fire sword video! 😁⚔️
@sapientisessevolo4364
@sapientisessevolo4364 Год назад
I swear each video becomes ever more like a dnd campaign, and I am all for it!
@EthosAtheos
@EthosAtheos Год назад
Cool video. I shredded a tire recently while driving off road. It took a razor sharp bit of bedrock, the weigh and horsepower of the vehicle. Slashed 2 lugs and rip the side wall. My tires are 3ply so they have 3 layers of high carbon steel wire. My next set will be 10ply and be heavier but hold up to the abuse better.
@georgetazberik6834
@georgetazberik6834 Год назад
The shot at 6:53 that goes in between the two tires is the dictionary definition of a critical hit.
@Thekulprit92
@Thekulprit92 Год назад
Yup, liver or kidney shot, they'd be done
@trev1552
@trev1552 Год назад
I love how enthusiastic and excited you get it is a genuinely good idea tyre rubber i would never of thought of it
@wulfthemountaindragon5432
@wulfthemountaindragon5432 Год назад
A cool idea to test, is if you mold rubber across a set of chainmail, how strong that'd be.
@jonathangrey2183
@jonathangrey2183 Год назад
Just use flex seal
@Sciborg9
@Sciborg9 Год назад
​@jonathangrey2183 I think they tried that, on shields at least
@marianomaimone8870
@marianomaimone8870 Год назад
When I was young I saw "Demolition man" with sylvester stallone and wesly snilpe and snipe had a tire armour and I fell in love with it. I made and used a few armors made of tire and you didn't even start hurting that... use blunt force trauma or something like bodking arrows or you can't hurt it...
@Underworlddream
@Underworlddream Год назад
Armors made from Tires? This should have been the Road Warrior Episode! Have they guy get Mohawk, Leather, and wear Football Pad. Then end with you guys running into the Castle because Lord Humongus showed up demanding Gas.
@davidfitzsimmons2451
@davidfitzsimmons2451 Год назад
I ALWAYS had it as one of my 'post apoc list' items that scouring the highways for tire scraps from blowouts for all kinds of uses was a good idea.
@Tiregeni3
@Tiregeni3 Год назад
I approve. Ive made several tire armors, just for deco tho. A fully functional tire armor has been on the ever growing idea list... Maybe it's time for that!
@SomeDigitalGhost
@SomeDigitalGhost Год назад
From 16:48, to answer your question, tires are a common backstop for open air ranges, though its usually large tires like from tractors.
@wyattbussard9558
@wyattbussard9558 Год назад
I can’t put into words how awesome and epic this intro is 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@lunarziggurat672
@lunarziggurat672 Год назад
Shad, I'm so happy that you've found yourself two more turbonerds
@Grandwigg
@Grandwigg Год назад
They've been cooking up ideas worthy of a Michelin Star . And the talk of the flaming sword video makes me wonder if they will make something with a Firestone.
@chadherbert18
@chadherbert18 Год назад
You could choose balding tires for a lighter more flexible version, or brand new tires for greater thickness. I wonder too if the different tread patterns would change things?
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue Год назад
Now that you mention it, this is a good way to recycle balding tyres.
@Sgt_SealCluber
@Sgt_SealCluber Год назад
Big and slow bullets, so most pistol calibers, I think a few layers could stop. Once you get into the small and fast rifle rounds they'll breeze through.
@jordyschulz1989
@jordyschulz1989 Год назад
You can find videos of .22 long rifle going though 1 tire and 9mm goes through several tires in a row
@WJS774
@WJS774 Год назад
@@jordyschulz1989 Sure, if you shoot at the part that isn't steel reinforced. That is, the part that you would _not_ be making armour from.
@jordyschulz1989
@jordyschulz1989 Год назад
@@WJS774 the tires were shoot in the middle of the treads and went right though. I also have done it myself several times tires are not armour for bullets lol.
@swampdonkey1567
@swampdonkey1567 Год назад
​@@jordyschulz1989i mean kevlar body armour comes from pizza delivery driver from detroit using tires to make body armour.
@jordyschulz1989
@jordyschulz1989 Год назад
@@swampdonkey1567 huh is that English
@TheMyname707
@TheMyname707 Год назад
You can use a big pair of scissors for sheet metal and cut them quite effectively. Or to make it easy you get them mounted on a workbench with a long lever.
@deathdeathington
@deathdeathington Год назад
If you had two layers you could place them so that the wires in one piece are at 90 degrees to the other, making a sort of crisscross that would be a bit more effective against piercing strikes.
@MrRevell13
@MrRevell13 Год назад
A grinder with a few cutoff wheels and a grinding disc to shape and thin the rubber where needed would make working with it more bearable.
@usetoothless9473
@usetoothless9473 Год назад
Absolutely loving all your new content. Just tons of creativity and passion on display.
@jeremylange3293
@jeremylange3293 Год назад
The tire armor is almost like a gambeson & hard armor combined into 1 However, a couple of things come to mind, 1.angle grinder with a cut-off wheel will definitely help with cutting the tires 2. Would a tire with a nylon or other material for the belt (instead of steel) be similar in performance? 3. that same cut-off wheel could make select bits of metal from the car an excellent source for additional armor material 4. At least some airbags are made of cross woven Kevlar My conclusion, I would love to see a significantly higher grade of your tire armor! Better fit, more effective, or possibly bullet resistant?
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