I think this is the best and simplest interpretation I have seen. Like we can't have racist or sexist characters in movies anymore? People like this actually exist. There's nothing wrong with depicting people in movies. It's called acting. It's not there to convince people to be racist. It's there to depict a thing that actually happens.
Solomon Parker it’s just insane to me that that actually needs to be explained to people lol. It’s kind of the same situation with our statues and history here in the US 🇺🇸, I’m 19 and it really seems like everyone my age doesn’t understand that there was no such thing as “political correctness” before the 21st century. Literally EVERYONE was racist, so we as a society would basically have to throw away our whole country to make some of these people “happy” even though they wouldn’t be happy, they’d still find something to complain about. There’s nothing wrong with a little racism in movies or history, it’s actually very beneficial to us especially for the people that believe that racism isn’t a thing anymore.
Not even that. The character he was playing wasn't a racist slave owner. He was playing a dude disguised as a dude playing another dude. There is literally nothing to get offended about.
I’m a black man and I’ve watched and laughed at Tropic Thunder multiple times. I wasn’t offended in the least by Downey’s blackface character and neither was any of my friends or family members. We just saw it as funny, we laughed and enjoyed the movie. It’s comedy!
I'm black and the reason I didn't found his role to be offensive is because I didn't know that was RDJ till about halfway through the movie. He did it so flawlessly as a black dude, you seriously can't be mad 😂
Right, Downey was playing an actor who was playing a role (a movie inside a movie). He was making fun of that fictional character who was acting out a role. So he wasn't making fun of black people in any way. He was making fun of a fictional actor attempting to play a black person with makeup.
Robert Downey Jr playing an over the top Australian method actor playing a poorly stereotype of a black man speaking terrible Mandarin is one of the greatest moments of social satire in cinema history.
I've never found ANYTHING, in Tropic Thunder, to be offensive. It's literally making fun of actors and how they do these offensive things sometimes just for money. Not only that, this is one of the funniest movies of ALL TIME. If not THE funniest. Definitely one of my favorites movies ever. It's timeless and I can rewatch it over and over 😂 props to RDJ for taking the role and doing wonders with it!!
Thanks for dumbing down the exact point RDJ made in his clip. Thanks ,cause I'm sure there are people who watched this clip who didn't understand. Like Rogan himself.
As a black person I will say it’s one of my favorite “black” rolls ever played ! I legit laugh at the jokes like I’ve never heard them every time I see the movie. Probably RDJ best rolls in my opinion.
@@UlyssesM because the movie was a well directed comedy that happened to have an entertaining all male cast. stop looking for enemies where there isn't
@@UlyssesM because the movie was a well directed comedy that happened to have an entertaining all male cast. stop looking for enemies where there isn't
Tropic Thunder was a perfectly made movie. “What do you mean you people?” “What do YOU mean what do you mean you people?” Might be the funniest exchange ever.
I'm a 74 year old Black woman from Chicago, now living in Houston. Tropic Thunder is a classic, ground breaking comedy. Simple Jack... come on!! Get a sense of humor. There's plenty of shit to be upset about. Robert Downey killed that role, and it was funny as Hell. 😂😂❤😂😂
@@tittiecheese until the credits came on. Then he switched to Kirk Lazarus. When the credits end, he's RDJ again. I'm glad he got clean so he can be in more than one movie every 5 years. He's seriously talented.
His character in Tropic Thunder was a great crossover comedy for generations. My father still refers to Robert's character in that film, as do my siblings who are 12 years younger than myself. I'm 35. Fantastic film. Fun, clever, silly, memorable.
Yeah, wont make sense for a black guy playing a white guy, playing a black guy and then re appears to be as a white guy towards the end of a movie.. lol
@@felinegoodstudios2755 I agree Blackface is wrong 100% and i bet all people commenting here will agree. The fact is, blackface was not portrayed by RDJ in Tropic Thunder whatsoever. The character he played was to take the piss out of method actors.
As Black woman, I personally think Tropic Thunder is utterly hilarious! I speak for myself and with no intent to invalidate opposing opinions. I simply don’t see anything offensive in Tropic Thunder; it’s extremely well done top tier comedy. The same way Dan Akroyd’s Rastafarian portrayal in Trading Places is pure golden classic hilarious comedy
Your problem isn't black people, your problem is the white liberal types who feel that they've got to get outraged over these matters and white Knight for the black population.
Yes 👍 when I saw the fake trailers I said to myself: this is too funny, please don’t stop. It took some time till the audience got it but after that it was a laugh fest. Starship Troopers is also a great parody movie. I also saw that in the theater, but it’s harder to get that if you don’t know some history.
@DillonJ the entire point of it is that it is EXTREMELY offensive, and it was meant to be offensive to the producers who do shit like cast a white person in like an asain role and try to highlight that there is a major issue with the way the industry was treating people, how about this, go find a bunch of black people and ask them if they thought it was offensive that someone was calling to light the blatant racism going on
@DillonJ It's the context. Not that it was in a movie, but that the whole joke is that actors are so out of touch with reality that they can't see why it's wrong for him to do "method acting" which is just a racist black face. It's literally a point in the movie that the people get offended by it. IT'S MAKING FUN OF PEOPLE WHO DO BLACK FACE. Watch the damn movie before throwing accusations. It's like saying any white actor who says the N word in a movie in any context including historical, is racist.
Robert Downey Jr wasnt using black face in Tropic Thunder to degrade black people he was playing an character who was stupid enough to think he could play any character because his ego was off the charts. He wasn't pretending to be a black person he was pretending to be a stupid actor. Its brilliant and not racism.
Just like Blazing Saddles used over-the-top absurd racism to show just how stupid racism is, he used over-the-top absurd blackface to show just how stupid BlackFace is.
@@RobwLPOC I'm so glad I came to these comments to see this insight being noticed by other human beings. Watching Rogan attempt to take it down the whole "ah everyone is such a snowflake" path and RDJ subtly and smoothly cutting it off with his very unoffensive rebuttal was the highlight of this video for me. Rogan is seeminly obsessed with making everything about snowflakes, or whatever. Very sad.
@@daxpwnsyouall well that is because there are nothing but snowflakes walking around, acting outraged when they get offended by everything. kids these days think racism is the absolute worst sin in the history of mankind. it is so pathetic how this world is now. we murder our babies by the millions, but dont you dare use a racial slur.
@@RobwLPOC as being half black I totally agree but the problem is the ones who want to do it to be racist use that defense to do things with negative intentions. But this movie is probably my top 5 favorite comedies.
He also dressed as an Asian in the movie, but no one is offended by that. He wasn’t making fun of a black guy he was making fun of actors who get to into their roles.
At that point he was acting as an Australian playing a black dude dressed as an Asian.... just to be clear - the inception layers to his character in that movie
Tropic Thunder is without question, the funniest comedy made over the last 40 years. It is on par with anything that Mel Brooks directed, and Richard Pryor wrote. It is comedy genius done at no one's expense! There are no "victims" in this movie, only participants.
BeatBox You.Lunch Give me a “for instance.” Watch Gervais’ Golden Globes monologue, then apply it to yourself. You’re in no position to tell people what they should or shouldn’t do. Shut the fuck up, climb down off your high horse, and we’ll all get on with our day.
That movie was freaking humorous. Funny as heck. As a black person, I took no offense to RDJ . The movie purpose was to point out the hypocrisy. Seriously no black person ever took offense. I am so tired of all this PC and faux outrage.
RIGHT lmaoooo the irony they had a rapper who was larger than life who was hiding his true sexuality too.. i mean technically the movie was too forward thinking LOL
Robert Downey, Jr., said something that really struck me. He said what’s in my heart. What’s in my heart. I’ve grown up with a lot of different characters as we all have, and some of them get leeway to do this kind of thing. Why? Because we know what’s in their heart. Because they don’t really want to do harm to anybody. You don’t mess with an actor who cares.
As a black man, I knew in my heart when I saw RDJ in Tropic Thunder that he had to have spent real quality time with old black men. I loved it. And Brandon T Jackson kept it all grounded.
@@B3Smooth yeah it’s like, white SJW and BLM protesters only get triggered by this. Showed the movie to my black best friend and he just laughed his ass off.
This was one of those situations where years later someone had to tell me I'm supposed to be offended. I saw the movie, it didn't bother me. I'm not going to get worked up because YOU don't like it.
Robert Downey Jr. 💓 He's the most real, been there done that, doesn't try to act better than others, he is actually a human and he kicks ass at what he does.
Becuase even if you dont like ridiculous films like tropic thunder those typa movies made my childhood they made me know how to let go of giving a shit about meaningless stuff in life and know how when to take a joke people cant seem to do that today except for yall in this comment section I love yall
Every black person I've met that's seen this movie has fallen into 1 of 3 categories: 1. They thought his character was funny 2. They thought his impression was so spot-on, they didn't know he wasn't black. 3. Both 1 & 2.
If you think about it, this was a massive risk for RDJ. His career had taken such a nosedive, and then he was in Iron Man, which, obviously with the overload of Marvel films in theaters, we know how that turned out. But right after Iron Man he was in this, which came out just a couple months later. If it had gone bad (and it really could have), it could have killed his comeback, but instead, it became another huge hit, and RDJ got an Oscar nomination for the part. Yeah, glad he didn't listen to him mom.
I’m a black man and I wasn’t offended it was hilarious. Granted I was a teen when it came out but regardless was never offended the movie is hilarious. Ben Stiller’s swan song tbh.
Fuckin Genius. That dudes a fuckin Actor. He plays everyone and none are the same I'm sorry to black folks but Denzel is not an actor. Plays the same roll in everyfuckin movie
The best part of Tropic Thunder was RDJ, but a very close 2nd was Brandon T Jackson and his responses to RDJ. He sold is and made that movie even more hilarious.
My first time ever seeing Robert Downey jr in a movie was tropic thunder. Imagine me having to come to grips with a white Robert Downey jr in iron man lmao
@@RU-vidr-lv6eh I don't think so. You don't think some black people got offended??? Of course some did. I think a more accurate statement would be that, only "leftists" got offended.
@@PhillColl1ns I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree, and say that it absolutely IS political affiliation. Completely and totally. I guarantee you no conservatives got offended, black or white. I promise you, black white and brown people got offended and they were without a doubt all leftists.
@@PhillColl1ns I don't think we can have a serious conversation about this. You're gonna tell me that you think ANY conservatives got offended by this? No, my friend. The only people that got offended by something this trivial, are leftists. I'll stake my life on it. Have a good one.
One of the funniest parts of the movie was Danny Mcbride in the tower, setting up the explosives and working with two natives, screaming back at the director... " Get me someone up here that speaks Amercian!"
As a black man, I can honestly say I absolutely loved this movie and was in no way offended by RDJr’s portrayal! It was meant to be a spoof and it was hilarious! Not only that, but the acting was great! Still a classic comedy to this day! Great comedic film, the whole cast was awesome!
I'm white and I found the movie to be funny. If you laugh at racism, that's like the definition of anti-racism. If you see a trope and think, "yep that's how THEY are", you're racist. And if you get offended just because it has anything to do with race at all, you are a sheep.
I'm glad rdj pointed out the movie is a bashing on Hollywood. He's not playing a black man obviously to mock him it's saying how ridiculously over the top some actors take themselves w/ the over doing of the method acting. Brando of course did it to perfection but unlike some actors like bale he didnt stay in character off shooting. Even though a Christian bale had made a speilberg movie as a child actor & was in newsies when he took on his main stream star making performance in American pycho on the set while shooting he never dropped his American accent so at the end when of shooting bale started talking again in his native English accent & the crew was surprised & confused that he really wasn't an American accented actor.
Whenever I watch that movie and that scene comes on, I just start busting my gut, then he says that line and I die. Every single time! I've been a Zombie, and ghost since 2008.
As a black person, I cannot explain why RDJ's portrayal is very funny, yet inoffensive. Reminiscent of how Mel Brooks made comedy about race work for him
I'd say it's because he does everything that you could see your average black dad doing in that situation. No exaggeration because he is genuinely appreciative about the culture he's portraying, not just trying to make it look excessive and dumb.
The secret ingredient to all of this is the "not taking yourself seriously" angle that everything Mel Brooks (and Tropic Thunder) did. It's a parody. It's a spoof. It's intended to be satire. It didn't try to be something it wasn't. It didn't try to take itself seriously and actually play blackface in a "serious" way. I think society has always had openings for satire and parody. We haven't lost that. Tropic Thunder could easily be made in today's hypersensitive culture, as long as the director/actor/actresses do it with, like RDJ says, "with your heart in the right place." Which means if you approach it like satire and execute it like satire, then it'll nail the message/meaning. You'll never satisfy 100% of people. Offense-taking is unavoidable. But the overwhelming majority of Americans (and the world) still has plenty of heart and stomach for satire. It ain't going anywhere. Mel Brooks is a legend specifically because his life's work was pointing at and poking fun at people who take themselves too seriously. If anything, more satire is needed now. So not only do I think Sgt Lincoln Osiris could be done again in today's culture, it would actually be widely successful directly because of how sensitive culture appears to be atm. Counter-culture will never not be a thing.
Absolutely loved this movie and RDJ’s role in it. Sincerely laugh every time until my cheeks on my face hurt. ❤ We COULD NEVER make another #TropicThunder in the world today. I’m sooo glad I lived when people could take a joke. 🙌🏾 Thank you god
What a great movie! As for RDJ, for a while in the movie I had no idea it was him. Then, the realization of him portraying an AA actor just added to the movie about the silliness about the movie industry. Plus, I loved Tom Cruise in it. He was tremendous! I loved what he did afterwards during the credits. [Edited for grammar.]
Never laughed so hard at a movie ever, every character nailed there roll, jack black, tom cruise, Matthew McConaughey, ben Stiller, Danny McBride...... shit such a good movie
They weren't making fun of the races but making fun of the actors who were trying to be method. Great movie and Robert's roll was done excellent... I may start saying "never go full retard".
