Covert narcissist becomes overt when This happens 

It's very comforting hearing this behaviour described by someone else as I have witnessed it for years in my partner and have remained silent and confused about this cycling behaviour for so long. Thank you for the clarity🙏

They don't need drugs and liquor to go into a full blown rage! It happens all the time!

Dude me and my grandmother witness this with my mother!!! Everything you said is spot on!!! 🎯💯🎯💯🎯💯🎯💯🎯💯🎯💯🎯💯

Yes the reckless driving is a big issue for them, it makes me very afraid for my life, it's like a glaze comes over their eyes and they lose their minds.

My soon-to-be ex-wife was a drug addict and alcoholic before I knew her. She got plastered once when we were out at a coworkers place and I didn't understand where this ugly, mean, character assassin came from! She assaulted my character, manhood and physical person thinking it was the most hilarious thing. I. Was. Humiliated. I just thought that she was a mean drunk. I didn't realize that drugs and alcohol took the covert narcissist's mask off revealing her true nature 😮‍💨 oh the naivety of youth.

Narrcists should be locked up in jail. Very bad influence in the society.

Every family reunion, function or gathering ever.

Oh my goodness, yes!! My MiL always prided herself on “never drinking” unless it was a holiday. She would have just a little bit and suddenly get very loud and way more annoying than usual… if it were even possible…

Lived it for 34 yrs and 28 yrs of marriage. Still going through this as we divorce. It’s absolutely horrible and exhausting. Also, wry damaging to our children.

I witnessed it...with no drinking and no drugs. She just did not get her way. She lost it and was so angry...behaving threatening.

Definitely...violent, loud and openly throwing himself on women while I am right there! Told me once to leave him alone when we were at a party because I was cramping his style!

Absolutely! Give my ex a drink and I knew it was going to be a long night. I used to go to bed early and when I would hear the ice machine I knew he was just going to keep going. Lucky I divorced him before I was stuck with alimony for the rest of my life!!

Yes this is so accurate.My ex was an nasty, obnoxious asshole when drinking but his main vice was pot and he smoked it all day , every day. You would think that would stop him from being aggressive, nasty etc but it didn't and if he ran out of pot it was unbearable.

The mask drops every once in awhile without even the use of drink or drugs. Imagine pretending to be something other than what you truly are and keeping up the pretense except in your own mind. You'll see it come out - at glimpses when they get weak.. it's shocking

I did witness this with myself not with others or in front of others Eagerly waiting for this to happen so that others can see his true face

My vulnerable person became much more pleasant to be around, playful and fun. I always thought when their inhibitions were down like that - it was a glimpse into the boy that was abused, neglected and torn by emotionally incestuous maternal enmeshment and competitively triangulated triangulated with father. I never felt in danger of being hurt, but I got over that very young normalizing the disassociation I felt when I was abused as a child. When he was afraid or stressed or tired/hungry- that was when he said viciously cruel things almost like Tourette’s- he couldn’t help himself. I would take flight as I did not want to cry or fight.

ABSOLUTELY...when my ex narc got drunk he would crash his truck and once he even hit his friend's car and smashed it to pieces while it was sitting in the driveway.

My experience is very different... Strangely, I've seen them experiencing empathy after consuming high amount of liquor (as if parts brain have developed connection, which otherwise is absent - neurotransmission) I've seen a Narc crying uncontrollably & apologising to victim for the hurt he caused in 30 years and acknowledging everything she did for him but embarrassed about it later on... I've seen their behaviours turning better but yes coverts do open up more after having liquor & behave like a maniac

Interesting, my ex would only drink half a beer or sip of a cocktail. NEVER seen anyone do that before, didn’t bother me or anything but I feel like she felt the mask coming off and didn’t want to display her true self.

Yes! He strangled me at knife point and used drug withdrawal as an excuse.

Absolutely true. I have experienced that ....but nobody understood me n i was to be blamed for everything.. But since I was not able to explain things like u...... It became regularly.

Yes, My ex husband !! I spent 13yrs living this hell. He drank often and was extremely abusive and when he drank things would go from bad to a living hell

70+ y/o mother now drives fast/reckless on the freeway and even on the roads. Never used to do this. Andbthe NPD is seasoned and ripened with age. These dramatic manic episodes occur too.

He's using drugs and gambling. The abuse has gotten worse.

Covert Narc threatened to jump out of a car going 65 mph because I was late driving her to visit her friend. Put other people on speaker phone and she started screaming to sound like a victim. She was sober, but still acting strange. Leave these people, you can do better. Stay Safe. Be well.

I have seen this many times from my ex narc husband and my ex narc boyfriend. Bith alcoholics and the second also on meth. THEY became very violent when drunk. THEY BOTHdrive drunk and had road rage. I didn't know they also fid drugs until the end.

Yes, a friend's father! I have never seen such madness! Her mother sadly committed suicide when he pushed her to the limit ☹️

Growing up, I didn't know that person was a narcissist. What type I am not sure but, the one I met online let me know he had npd and, bpd. Nothing covert about that. It's best to just keep to yourself. I had no idea that narcissism was so widespread as it was. I don't know what happened to cause it but, something happened somewhere to do this. It's an epidemic, it's a silent one. It's not being addressed in the main stream like it should be. Yes, it's being talked about but, do we see doctors and, media really talking about this? No we don't. How narcissism happens, how to prevent it. We don't have any of that! Is there data or any known causes? We know it's there but, pretty much we don't know all the origins of it, how to prevent it in the first place. Why are there different levels of narcissism? Do we have definitive answers? Why is noone else looking at it like that?

Yes, the narcissist I got tangled up with was a binge drinker. He would binge on a jug of vodka over 3 days and become a cocky, aggressive asshole. The strange thing he did when he was drunk always amazed me though. When I was out of the room and he thought I couldn't hear him, he would regress back into a small child and talk out loud to himself in a very infantile way, cooing and actually saying 'gaga googoo', just like a baby would do. What the hell was that?! I used to laugh and mock him and 'gaga goo' at him when he finally sobered up and he looked like an ass. He would split between a raging monster and a sweet little innocent baby and drunk off his ass, weirdest thing I ever saw. He was the worst person I ever met in my whole life...👺🤡🤥🤮

This happened right before I left, when they didn't care if I knew. He became physically abusive after eight years of not being Vientiane. U was totally taken off guard. He didn't drink or do drugs.

Nothing more unsettling than seeing a 45-year-old woman throw herself on the ground and kick and cry like a two year old

I can tell you this much drinking just makes him delusional.. I told him that I thought he drank to relax him and forget about things but it seems to me like the drinking makes his "so called" problems 10 times worse...

Yes I totally did and left for good!!! It was like fully psychotic rage and dr jaykell amd mr Hyde

yes, my eldest brother would vbeat his wife when he was drinking. He would engage in reckless driving and almost died in a car accident, thankfully noone would get in the car with him. I was young and started witnessing this at 8 years old and on and on through my teens.

Well intoxicants does influence behaviour but based on this phenomenon one should not be diagnosed as narcissists

Yes yes yes the abuse the name calling all happened only after alcohol

Yes, this poor guy is going mad.

Oh yes so true

I don’t know if I’m narc or not, I often think I’m a one, covert type, cause I obsess over being dominant over other men. I often think of myself as of a people pleaser, passive aggressive and with low self esteem. I am also highly afraid of being punished for my behavior. But when I drink, I dunno, but become quite confident and chill, and joke a lot. Also maybe slightly more aggressive but maybe for my case it’s even for the better since I’m no longer that intimidated by other men. I also want attention and even admiration sometimes, but I also was thinking that maybe everyone wants it from time to time. Anyway, I’m very confused of what I am 😢

One my Good man friend is exactly like what you say.. Is there any treatment?

yes i was sent home from gis country yo my country overnight..haha

Yes.?

My distant Uncle actually punish you with sarcasms if you don't give him drinks. I don't get it. I don't owe him anything . He does with other relatives too. Actually a coward. Beat his wife 20 years ago. Now his son pushed him and he complained hahaha

Everyday for six of the 7 years…..

True

No Will never become alcoholic coz so careful about their self and health

You describe my ex husband’s behavior perfectly

I haven't drank in months and haven't smoked in a couple weeks?...but even when I'm sober alot of what goes on in my head is still there...I'd also like to say I haven't been violent with anyone for the past...8 years? Other than myself

my husband is without doubt a narcissist and drinks heavily but he usually reminisces his past love and weeps---what do i make of this?

They become God almighty and very delusion manic !

Yes I witmess this

TrueTrue….. 🤪

What about overt to covert?

Hresa

That’s why Islam has made intoxicants haram. Great content, brother.

Amber Heard

100%

Estoy casadavon un narcisista

I don't agree with this.

Too triggered to comment