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This week on Tactical Rifleman I wanted to cover how to shoot close distances (CQB) with Iron Sights. Now, everyone says that you have to use a “red dot” for CQB, but what did we do BEFORE we had red dots? We did all these same drills with iron sights. However, the actual techniques that we used were slightly different. For example, many guys looked OVER their rear sights, and just used the front post. This also eliminates having to “hold high” to compensate for optic “Height over Bore” while taking precise shots within the room. Flip side is you are now hitting too high outside at 100 meters, and have to get in the habit of going back to your rear peep sight.
The big thing I want you to take away, is why I run backup Iron sights (BUIS). When running an optic, if your reticle dies (battery or broke glass), just look through the large optic window (your head is already there) and flip up that front sight. You will be driving tacks within 25 meters. Easy, but only easy if you practice it. Remember, combat shooting is all about developing muscle memory in training BEFORE the fight happens for real.
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@fjamato 5 лет назад

"Dont be stupid" - Karl. I want that sound clip as my text alert.

@MexicanBagpiper96 5 лет назад

1:34. Marking it so that I can play it over and over again.

@johnrice1943 5 лет назад

@@MexicanBagpiper96 thanks

@semirejupovic2255 5 лет назад

Words of wisdom from a wise man

@crowman8914 5 лет назад

Convert it to mp3 and chop it up

@JanO209 3 года назад

In the Marines I used irons to qualify in bootcamp, we had to shoot at targets 500 yards away. They're way more capable than people give them credit for. A lot of people nowadays getting into guns go straight for the red dots, and though there's nothing wrong with that, you're really doing yourself a disservice by not becoming proficient with irons. No matter how good an electronic is, it's still an electronic. And that means it relies on more parts (more potential failure points), batteries (bad ones, old ones, supply), glass (fogging, breaking, covered in mud/dirt), etc. As opposed to two pieces of metal.

@TacticalRifleman 3 года назад

Agreed 100%

@matthayward7889 5 лет назад

No idea why but the shooting at dusk seems so much more visceral. Always good to watch a professional at work!

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

We tried to sneak in one more video before the film crew quit for the night. I too do indeed like shooting at dusk. Thanks for watching, TR

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Yep, scared of the dark... that’s me.

@PaulAmerican 5 лет назад

Carl remember when they issued him a musket in boot camp.

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

I loved my musket. TR

@williamniedzwiecki2325 5 лет назад

Back to the basics...good stuff!! Stay Lethal...

@darkspectro100 5 лет назад

Does the MOE-SL stock has wobble. I know the CTR version was an improved version ,however to hollowed for me.

@chrisehhernandez7440 5 лет назад

Best to always know basics.

@johnrice1943 5 лет назад

@@darkspectro100 it has slight wobble. I'd go with the ctr or maybe STR? If i knew that veggie i bought it, but to it's credit, only slight slop in the moe. Still annoying when you want tight.

@noerosas7691 5 лет назад

One of the best dam videos I've seen in a long time. Old school techniques by SF guys is the best info anywhere around.

@bones1x285 5 лет назад

I would like to know more old school techniques please!

@jesteravrgjoe2888 5 лет назад

Thanks for another great lesson. This wisdom is priceless.

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching, TR

@TacticoolVIKINGBeard 5 лет назад

I absolutely agree

@keithtomczyk4730 5 лет назад

My Pap Pap taught me on an old lever action 30/30. The rear sights were smashed off from something, so he told me ,as long as you cheek the gun exactly the same that front sights are good enough out to 50 or so. I believe your principle is what I also learned in archery as a kid. Using an anchor point and same or single pin was better for reflex shots. Great vid. 4.0

@jackellis6360 5 лет назад

A tactic my dad taught me that he learned when he qualified full auto (yes his team did that), was to put the large and small Aperture the middle(in between the two), where there is no hole and look over the top at the front sight (the middle notch) and I swear it’s as fast as any red dot

@jackellis6360 3 года назад

Jen farmer not a fan personally

@JeffWallace2009 5 лет назад

This presentation was brought to you by Murphy’s Law.

@HighSpeedNoDrag 5 лет назад

Amen.

@Caeser2001 5 лет назад

Yep. I had a Bushnell TRS die halfway through the 1st stage of my first carbine competition I ever attended. Since it was absolute cowitness, I just used it as a ghost ring for the rest of that stage. Since I'm old enough we didn't have those fancy Aimpoints and ACOGs back in my day, I had one issues using iron sights for the rest of it.

@springbloom5940 4 года назад

Dicked up iron is still iron. Broken glass is broken glass.

@Whitesp44 5 лет назад

In my agency we run iron sights only on patrol rifles. The "high speed" tac guys run glass. Won't lose your zero or break aftet getting banged up in a cruiser 80hrs a week. I would prefer a red dot but after drilling so much with the iron sights I feel slightly better than proficient. Thanks for the video

@welersonm.8212 5 лет назад

Maybe an aimpoint would change your mind ?

@Whitesp44 5 лет назад

@@welersonm.8212 absolutely! Like I said I would prefer to run something. Maybe when we get new management or upgrade to better vehicle gun rack system they will allow it. I'll give you my address. You can send me that aimpoint. Stay safe.

@welersonm.8212 5 лет назад

@@Whitesp44 just stop being poor

@ScottyM1959 5 лет назад

Top I was part of that iron sights age. I think they should continue teaching iron sights for the exact reasons you put in this video. Old army mules like me have to learn these new sights which I look forward to ecause when you run out of batteries iron is all you have left to work with. Strength and Honor Top

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Thanks Scotty. I agree that everyone needs to learn Iron sights, and basic sight alignment. It's hard to stress basic marksmanship skills when some shooters have never been taught sight alignment. Thanks for watching, TR

@AOMartialArts 5 лет назад

Oohh. That Blackout with the carry handle and front post kind of had a G36 look to it. Sharp!

@carl-ok9gn 5 лет назад

have you ever seen a g36???

@AOMartialArts 5 лет назад

@@carl-ok9gn Yes. That's why I said "kind of", Carl.

@carl-ok9gn 5 лет назад

@@AOMartialArts are you legally blind?

@hpgdawnpatrol9456 4 года назад

got a vietnam car15 look and thats a good thing

@joshuadeanb 5 лет назад

Glass optics on carbines can fog up really quick making them useless, it’s nice to know how to use iron sights a little better.

@gregfer2756 5 лет назад

I have asked you about iron sights in a previous video....Glad you made a video fully explaining the technique!!Keep up on motivating us!!

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Greg, I read all the comments. So, when you have a good idea for a video, I add it to the video idea list. TR

@gregfer2756 5 лет назад

@@TacticalRifleman I see that as you answer in every good question and believe me many people around the world are gratefull for sharing your knowledge!Thanks again!!

@hoosiered471 5 лет назад

I love how Karl can break it down into very easy to understand info and concepts. Semper Fi.

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching, TR

@Brian-wm7pd 5 лет назад

Alot of what you said about looking over your rear sight rings true. I dont know if you guys talk to Chris Saijnog or Don Mann but in both of their books they cover this extensively. It's a real good guideline to reinforce especially for when all else fails. Keep up the amazing work guys!

@superwatler 5 лет назад

My brother taught me this years ago. He called "shooting the notch". Its nice see different shooting techniques.

@msantifort 5 лет назад

Bad guys not going to complain that you hit him 2" high. Love looking over front sight with both eyes open. Great technique, thanks for the info. Using it in my weekly training.

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching, TR

@JJ.ermenegildofregna 5 лет назад

Great! Right on cue Karl, right on cue. Since my rifle blew off I bought a new one and configurated it with a new handguard, so I took the opportunity to use my iron sights again before setting the thing up with red dot and optic.Back to the basics! Let's admitt it, once you set up and zero your red dot you never use iron sights anymore. Big mistake! At close range I'm a bit slower but still precise, but again, if you are crap with iron sights chances are you're gonna be crap with a red dot too. I just use the big aperture...yes, I'm older than you Karl. I think I'm gonna run the thing with I.S. for a couple of months more. Great stuff. Thanks.

@Vince-ml9gw 6 месяцев назад

Great video Karl, that all makes a lot of practical sense to me.

@jonwm01 5 лет назад

This shit is awesome. It gave me a trip down memory lane I remember being taught that exact drill using front sight post on our m16 a2 In cqb. And it’s Always stuck with me

@DatsDaven 5 лет назад

It was an ex-green beret who showed me this a few years ago. Completely changed my thinking on rifles and cqb.

@Ryno133 Год назад

I know this video is 3 years old, just found it 😅 but thought I would share a technique, you can use a foamy ear plug duct taped to your stock to get a consistent touch point to help with consistency with irons. I place mine to where the corner of my mouth just touches the foamy.

@o311LouDogUSMC 5 лет назад

Good post. Did CQB with SOTG in Oki back in 97, great training, miss it

@o311LouDogUSMC 5 лет назад

Forgot to mention using a double sling

@cdhrtsc 4 года назад

Wow that was actually a new and rather unique option to make the dead optic the rear sight in a time sensitive situation. Thank you for the tip.

@weshoward4301 5 лет назад

Stellar video Karl, thank you. Reminds me of a technique learned awhile applied to pistol. Simply put, at bad-breath distances "metal on meat = bang" works. It's not about punching shirt buttons.

@Kboss979 5 лет назад

Great info as usual with a no bs approach. Thanks again for all you do!!

@RobbySk8erBoi 4 года назад

I'm 24 years old, left eye dom, right handed. I gotta squint my left eye a bit, but don't need to fully close it, so I can shoot right handed rifle. Also, I prefer iron sights. I I close it about 35-50%. Open enough to still be able to see my full FOV, but my right eye takes over.

@errolhook3975 5 лет назад

Great. Timely. Video.

@pcb8639 5 лет назад

I love irons. I never had problems with them on my TE weapon, sword & shield, way back when!!!!!

@bradslone8511 5 лет назад

I've been used to keeping my irons up at all times just incase my optic goes down. And I learned it from a buddy who was Green Beret and a former CAG guy and has been a friend for a long time.

@hossv1147 5 лет назад

Love me my iron sights. 😉👍🇺🇸🗽🇺🇸

@neovig1355 5 лет назад

I'm glad I've found this channel, I learn a lot. Greetings from Argentina, Karl

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching. I'm glad you are learning, as that is our intent. Strength & Honor, TR

@princeVEGE 5 лет назад

You need to get on an episode of the Joe Rogan show as a guest!

@slept-on_SP 5 лет назад

Guess im old school still running with Daniel Defense fixed irons as my primary and for anything less then 200yds they are simple and get the job done.

@mattb4826 3 года назад

This is awesome...i am 2 years late...for my agency all I run is irons...no dept money for cool optics. But irons are the best.

@Snakepliskin76 3 года назад

This is the problem I'm running into while transitioning to a carbine with a red dot from several years of muscle memory using and training on a M16A2. I have a Colt SP1 clone , and an AR-15, carbine length, fixed FSP, cowitnessed As I'm learning to use the red dot, I'm finding myself still trying to "look past" the red dot if you will and focusing on the FSP. Muscle memory is hard to get past, even the grip feels weird compared to a full length rifle. The carbine feels like a kids gun. The truth is though, in spite of all that. I'm getting faster with the red dot, even though I still don't trust it 100%, though it has never failed. This was a great video, even learned some new things about CQB with iron sights that I never knew before now.

@flyoverkid55 5 лет назад

Thanks for the reminder, solid foundation in basics is where it's at.

@robertalford1321 5 лет назад

Cool info, captain. Thanks Karl!

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching, TR

@shammy3138 5 лет назад

Great info especially with flipping up just the front sight for quick target acquisition.

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Ryan, thanks for watching, TR

@enaznhoj 5 лет назад

Great job on this video. I agree on being proficient with the iron sights and being able to run them efficiently and effective.

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Thanks John. TR

@johnmassey2309 4 года назад

I was trained in the old school to use the small hole. It takes a lot of ammo to develope memory. Shooting over the top or using the blank optic to center your shots is a great idea. I'll have to get out on the range and try em.

@TacticalRifleman 4 года назад

Give em a try. Thanks for watching, TR

@palehorseone 3 года назад

One of your best, Karl. Thank You.

@kentuckyjustice1408 5 лет назад

I thought I was just old and corny, but I built a 10'5" pistol with the A-2 front sight tower/gas block and a carry handle (no optics). I even went so far as to add triangular hand guards. I love ringing steel with it "old school" style. When I shoot my AR's that have optics, even though I (mostly) have flip-up BUIS, I usually leave my front sight up for an indexing point. Truth be known, I probably should use a fixed front sight for durability. But hey, I'm not in that AO anymore. Thanks for the video. "Thumbs up" from this Kentucky boy.

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching. What part of Kentucky are you out of?

@olli-pekkapackalen3150 5 лет назад

Very good and informative video! Thanks Karl and your attitude every time provides that extra amount of cabability to understand and take these drills and situations in practice, atleast thats how I experience it! Greets from Finland and keep on rolling man!

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching, TR

@jessitaylor4170 5 лет назад

I love the look of that 300 blackout rifle!

@larryflint7089 5 лет назад

When using the small aperture, we call it shooting the notch... there is a small notch over the small aperture, so you use the front sight post

@nicholaddelioncourt7863 5 лет назад

Good video. I learned a couple things. I never thought about looking over my rear sight aperture like that. Even less so that it would take care of that height over bore aiming. That slows me down the most in CQB. I'm going to start making more of an effort to keep both eyes open for CQB practice. To my own credit, I did use up a mag yesterday with iron-only CQB drills. One in the chest, two in the head (I know that's backward from what it should be. I didn't even realize it until I walk up to my target to check out my work).CQB is all I really practice right now but I'm planning on starting some long range later this spring after I pick up a .224 Valk set-up.

@donut3110 5 лет назад

I admit this is why I like Elcan because the glass is etched, so while a red dot is nice it's not necessary, however your technique is great also

@Stag15L 5 лет назад

i run a Daniel Defense fixed front sight 1st for redundancy incase my aimpoint goes down but 2ndly i use it to protect my dbal from getting hit on the front.

@corneliusbuttknuckle8154 5 лет назад

This was cool, and I will be doing up drills with iron sights tonight when I'm done with work.

@Oleafe 5 лет назад

Really interesting and great video again. Cheers TR.

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching. TR

@ferebeefamily 5 лет назад

Thank you

@Kq4hcuDan 3 дня назад

I love using irons, simply because i wear thick cole bottle glasses for my near and far sightedness. Optics dont mix well for me, and ones that do i dont want to spend money on, i rather spend more money for ammunition and i dont have to use batteries.

@ifell3 5 лет назад

Nice, that blackout is like a mustang with a electric motor in it, a retro funk bomb

@iac4357 2 года назад

I tried a Drill a while back. From the Prone ~20 yards, 2 slow shots each using the Large & Small Apertures, shooting along the Top of the Apertures, and using no Rear Sight at all. The only one I found too inaccurate was using no Rear Sight (shot too low from point of "aim"). The rest all work well for Chest Shots !

@MichaelLeopold1 3 года назад

Thanks for the tips

@ksanches 2 года назад

Man, what a good video !

@Drew4078 5 лет назад

Great information!

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching, TR

@rifleshooterchannel208 5 лет назад

CSAT rear aperture is also great addition to rifle with a fixed rear sight.

@johnzaknich3979 5 лет назад

G-day Karl you and I are of a similar vintage, though we served in different theaters, in the jungle/rain-forest fixed sights are a must. Thanks mate your video is solid as always .

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching and thank you for your service. Strength and Honor, TR

@jbux1983 5 лет назад

Karl you have a great camera presence.your voice and demeanor are great for instruction.definitely retain more info watching your vids..thanx

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Thanks for the kind words. I’m just a regular guy wanting to make the world a better place... TR

@dannycheshier613 5 лет назад

Great information

@rippinross3238 5 лет назад

Great training video.

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching, TR

@Modern_Warrior_School 5 лет назад

Just my two cents, I run 45° offset flip up sights so that if my aimpoint dies and the objective lens is obstructed, I have a clear view of my BUIS in any scenario. I also find them helpful when shooting prone from cover/concealment (such as under a car) when the mag keeps me from getting as low as I'd like while maintaining a proper sight alignment.

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

I run 45* offsets with larger optics, to save the front rail for NVDs. There is nothing wrong with your choice. Thanks for watching, TR

@hectorrodriquez8785 5 лет назад

😂😂😂I can appreciate the input but experience and training taught me that if my optic went down in a CQB scenario I was still able to use the iron sights techniques presented in the video for CQB scenarios.

@Modern_Warrior_School 5 лет назад

@Chet Manley I run my offset Magpul Pro BUIS on the left side of my rifle. Of course, there are inherent issues with going ejection port side down, but I find it to be a more natural transition from my primary optic to irons. Additionally, they allow me to run my light and eventually a BE MAWL on the right side.

@Iancarriedaway 4 года назад

Great tip near the end of the video!

@VikingPreparedness 5 лет назад

Excellent as per the usz. DOL

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching, TR

@seabeebuilder1486 5 лет назад

Thanks Karl!

@khh108 3 года назад

My home defense ar has a carry handle and front sight post. I like a challenge when I have the advantage

@albertptran 5 лет назад

Love the sound effects

@Oilfieldtrash432 5 лет назад

I love this Chanel

@truthteller2106 5 лет назад

Great tips Karl. Thank you

@ryank7142 5 лет назад

Awesome vid.

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching, TR

@pranays 5 лет назад

Nice timing I just got a colt mrr and just running mbus pros until I can get a eotech exps3-4. Thanks Karl.

@0570965 3 месяца назад

I'll try this out.

@shanek6582 5 лет назад

Always thought about cutting the top half off of a large ring aperture to see if I could use it faster like the U notch setting on my HK dial.

@azgunex 5 лет назад

If you guys ever come to AZ i WILL be taking a class

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

We will be in San Antonio in May. I think that is as close to AZ as we will get this year. TR

@rampantcolt 5 лет назад

Awesome episode!! Great information as always!

@shammy3138 4 года назад

Awesome info as always.

@Deadman9047 5 лет назад

Great lessons every time. Thanks guys.

@GryphonIndustrial 4 года назад

I always wondered about that upper. It looks like a C7 pattern upper. A1 sights but with a brass deflector. I never knew if the C7 had the A2 style aperture until this video. I used this type of upper on my AR build since I'm a lefty and wanted the A1 sights but with a deflector. Only thing was I put original Colt A1 aperture and sight parts in it. Meaning both of the apertures on the flip sight are peep holes. No large aperture. One is still marked L for long range. I've heard its got a few MOA factored in and others say there is no difference. Either way with my setup I only have the small peep sight. Personally I think I'd have trouble lining up the sights in that large aperture.

@freedomgunsandliberty 5 лет назад

I prefer open sights in home defense. No batteries to worry about and you don't have time to be dead nuts accurate. Point and pull

@CircaSriYak 5 лет назад

And you get to spend that $600 you just saved on training

@kirilbellic3602 5 лет назад

A light is more important.

@freedomgunsandliberty 5 лет назад

@@kirilbellic3602 I don't want the intruder to know where I am. Darkness is your friend in a home invasion. Stay low because the bad guy won't expect it. Also shooting upward lessens the chance of innocent family members hit.

@kirilbellic3602 5 лет назад

@@freedomgunsandliberty Fire at unknown figures in the dark. Great advice.

@freedomgunsandliberty 5 лет назад

@@kirilbellic3602 if there's an unknown figure in my house at night then they're getting shot. I keep low lights on throughout my house so identification of targets is easy. If the problem was outside then I would grab my streamlight. If you are not comfortable identifying targets you should not be a gun owner

@roofer3608 5 лет назад

I spend a lot of time on my iron's. Thanks for the tip.

@glidewell19 5 лет назад

I liked, I'm commenting, and I'm subscribed. Awesome stuff guys!!!

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Jody, thanks for the support. TR

@321southtube 5 лет назад

Thanks so much. Haven't seen you for a while. Nicely done

@sigis72 5 лет назад

Karls "commentary" is just as gold as the actual tips haha

@URKKfdf 5 лет назад

I wish we'd see some wester AK type drills on here as well.

@thomasnugent7602 4 года назад

Very good, Thank you very much. In my experience, I don't think that anyone ever used the large appiture on the M16A1 or A2.

@rivierstad3817 5 лет назад

Did we have the same arms instructor? Love what you do.

@thethinker5284 5 лет назад

I didn't realise you could just use the front sight.

5 лет назад

Like he said, at CQB distances you'll still be on target.

@mattsterpiecenjmaflva9956 5 лет назад

Awesome!

@Excalibur01 5 лет назад

Some guys I know refuse to use red dots on the off chance that it fails, but for me, that's why you have iron sights as back up.

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

When something is new, it takes a while to improve its reliability. Someday, everyone in the military will be running red dots on their pistols

@Excalibur01 5 лет назад

@@TacticalRifleman Sure but red dots aren't that new anymore. Maybe back in the 90s, it makes sense to not 100% trust them

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

Agreed. I would always run an Optic on a Rifle now.

@tennesseetarantulas5129 5 лет назад

I old school I run flip ups on my AR. Lol but I do have a scope on my 300 black out. So I guess I'm not all that old school. Great video and topic.

@d3ltaohniner261 5 лет назад

Flip ups aren't really that old school yet, lol. FWIW I still prefer fixed irons (A2 FSB & A3 rear) and a light for up close defensive use. I know red dots are all the rage and I see their advantages, along with their limitations.

@kennethrich2107 5 лет назад

Gospel spoken, once again.

@ELV943 Год назад

CQB perfection is repetition

@celebmrk9 5 лет назад

I'll put that to practice...just looking over the rear sight, interesting

@markadkins9290 5 лет назад

GREAT STUFF, KARL! ESPECIALLY FOR US OLDER GUYS, YOU YOUNGSTER!

@TacticalRifleman 5 лет назад

I don't feel "young" today... been out practicing some movement drills with a AK-74 (for upcoming video shoot), and my knees are killing me. TR

@markadkins9290 5 лет назад

@@TacticalRifleman Yeah, it sucks getting old. First the knees, then the back, and then the eyes, and then I don't know what happens after that. Take care and keep up the great work, Karl!