bought the cd when came out,i couldn't believe what they ve done in the production.specially in drums.what an amazing band and album.one of my all time favourite bands in metal since dusk that i 've found them.so maybe thats why dusk for me is first and cruelty second
Enjoy them both! A bigger difference between them i thought. The first weird poppy production and this more metal production. This remaster REALLY good thou.
This guy TOTALLY nailed this. The voices of Dani alone, but now you can hear all the choirs better, Sarah and the actress better, and the interplay (and especially the upmixing of the whispers and the deep vampire guy voice Dani uses are WONDERFUL fucking touches). Musically, in some places the synths now overpower the guitars, but we've also never HEARD those synth lines, they were fucking buried, so it's almost NEW music in those spots. I'll take the tradeoff. The drums crack and thunder, as they should, Barker is one of THE BEST at intensity on blasts. To me, this feels like a fucking personal opera version, in headphones OR good speakers, with balls and surround (and perhaps, as intended originally) I'm not even a super Cradle fan, but this album's songwriting and effort at arrangement made it the masterpiece it was. And NOW you add a better job than even Steven WIlson could do??? :O I mean this is literally like the guys who clean the old paintings in Sistine Chapel. After years of dirt and muck, NOW you can SEE the art breathe. If only fucking Ihsahn would allow this for Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk, if ever another album DESERVED this kind of production, my fucking god....
@@chiefindisguise @kodanshi Helcarver Please check out my friend's page @Remastered Black Metal Albums and project, he remasters a bunch of stuff. I bought a "Anthems" remix from him it was awesome, appears YT took it down, but his YT page has tons of stuff ru-vid.com/show-UCn9tlagzAcYvA1eduuYDYQA
@Belial 777 I produce, No, these would be either original tracks, enhanced to come to the forefront in the mix, or extra tracks added in because the band chose not to use them in the final mix. It would be rare to have the artist pop back in studio to re-record or ask another person to do them. Plus Dani is still able to execute, if their latest live work is any guide.
Lecter's keyboard work in this record was magnificent and flawless, too bad that he didn't last long in Cradle. Him, Stuart and Nick were the masterminds in this very album.
Midwinter wrongs the rites of Spring Her spinal chill rakes the earth Whilst pensive souls at zero sing Woebetidings of rebirth Under cold stares of Mars maligned Near-suicides cross their hearts And unborns writhe in tepid brine For something wicked this way starts Beneath the howling stars Elizabeth, paragon of vice Watches the sun set pyres alight As Bane and Tyranny, Her Dobermans sleep Like spellbound paramours at Her feet A chatter of bells without Raise hellhounds, teeth on edge From sleighs hastened through snow lit red Guests espied from the garret ledge Great gloomy mirror tell Her face She will outblind them all That heavenly bodies would fall from grace To possess such a lustrous pall For beauty is always Cruel For beauty is always (Let destiny in chains commence Damnation under Gods seeking recompense Enslaving to the whims of this mistress) As the dance ensued Elizabeth's mood Tempered by the craft of a vitreous moon In slick black iciness it grew To consume The wench Her tower tombed Tending to Her costume Bore the brunt of the storm When the needle askewed She has Her dogs maul the bitch's wrists through Restored to jaded bliss This evisceratrix Descended to the ball With painted blood upon Her lips Passing like a comet so white As to eclipse The waltz wound down, transfixed Devoid of all breath in the air Even Death paled to compare To the taint of Her splendour So rare and engendered 'Pon the awed throng gathered There Beneath the howling stars She danced so macabre Men entranced divined from Her gait That this angel stepped from a pedestal Had won remission from fate By alighting to darker spheres Delighting in held sway For She was not unlike the Goddess To whom the wolves bayed "Whilst envy glanced daggers From court maidens, arboured Who whispered in sects Of suspicions abroad That Elizabeth bewitched See how even now the whore casts Her spells upon the Black Count Whom Her reddened lips hold fast" Tongue unto tongue Swept on tides without care For the harpies who rallied Their maledict glares A halo of ravens tousled Her hair Chandeliers a tiara For passions ensnared "Phantasies sexed When their eyes, moonstruck met Their friction wore a way Through the sea of foreplay Lovers at first biteShe an Eve tempted to lay Gasping at rafters Flesh pressed in ballet" But caprice, honours leashed She absconded the feast To prowl wonderland Beasts in hand from the Keep Of Feudal dilemma Well mantled in furs Through cullis to watch Dogstars howl at the earth On this violent night Unholy night Winds lashed their limbs together As the ether vent its wintry spite She wished His kiss on Her frozen landscapes To excite the bleak advance From castle bowers Wherein small hours The Devil never came by chance A lone charm tied to Her inner thigh Sent lusts nova as hooves trod Cobbled streets where lowlives fleet Were flung to a wayward god Midwinter wrongs the rites of Spring Her spinal chill rakes the earth Whilst pensive souls at zero sing Woebetidings of rebirth Under cold stares of Mars maligned Near-suicides cross their hearts And unborns writhe in tepid brine For something wicked this way starts Beneath the howling stars Pounding upon the pauper ridge Earshot of a hunched beldame Elizabeth teased, would He dare to please Such elderly loins enflamed? To this He feigned a grim disdain Playing to Her slayful eye But the hag replied "This girl that chides Will soon be as plagued with age as I" Her consort laughed a plume of icy breath For Elizabeth's grace could raise A flag of truce in burning heaven Or the dead from early graves Yet still She seethed This proud Snow Queen Embittered with the cursed retort And because He sought Her loves onslaught He gutted the crone for sport Soon in full moon fever they were wed Lycanthropic in the conjugal bed Littered with aphrodisiacs To tease dynastic union And beget them further maniacs Elizabeth Free reigned, now a Countess Outwielded and outwore Her title like a favoured dress Whilst Her errant Lord Whose seasons savoured war Stormed black to fell the infidel Her embers, tempered, roared.
I like the old artwork better. Awesome as fuck hearing all the differences between the 2 versions though. Ive probably listened to this album way to many times to count since a teenager, so it's nice hearing it a bit different
yeah man. i tried super hard to bring back in barkers kick drums by using software to identify a harmonic of the kick drum and using it to trigger a sample. thats how desperate i was
This album became a classic for me with the remixing work. I always knew there was great music in there somewhere but the original release was just too flawed for me to get on with unfortunately.
Finally we can listen to this song with a full blast of Nick Barker... somehow I always thought the sound of his drums on this album was the reason for his departure... and the drum sounds becomes very poor from this song on
Damn... I remember reading an interview with Nicholas, ages ago in some UK magazine, how they got drunk somewhere, Nicholas somehow got hurt and bleeding, and they just left him like that at the entrance of some hospital. I really can't remember the details, and they did a lot of drunken crap back in the day, but I was under the impression that they didn't quite respect him.
@@Zaragil Dani had an ego, from all the interviews to the magazines I read as a kid. Telling his fans to fuck off when wanting autographs outside of gigs. It's why Cradle suffered loyalty issues.
@@bigmonk802 That's because you are hearing things that you couldn't notice before, but that's the way it was intended. I read that the female backing vocalist was in tears because of the original production. It's nice, finally, hearing the subtle nuances that fled this album; this masterpiece. Justice has been done, I say.
Rene Aensland Her consort laughed a plume of icy breath For Elizabeth's grace could raise A flag of truce in burning heaven Or the dead from early graves Yet still She seethed This proud Snow Queen Embittered with the cursed retort And because He sought Her loves onslaught He gutted the crone for spo
All you people bitching about the 1st one sounding better. You're full of shit. The original sounded muffled and under produced and rushed.... This is what these songs were always supposed to sound like... Powerful.. I can hear everything.. Fuckin amazing..
I am very impressed with this remix/remaster... It's a totally different experience for this old school Cradle fan. I will be purchasing this on vinyl. Yes, it's that good....
Saw them at ozfest 2001, best performance there. Live on radio 1. So dani made a point of swearing as many times as he could in 1 sentence. 🤣 Listening to them again after a loooong break and just sends chills over my body like I'm there again! \m/
Ironically, this is one of those weird CATB tracks that don't really need any exaggerated remastering as far as the drums go. The reason for this is simple - here, you can actually discern Barker's trademark kicks from his snare :)
Cruelty was the first Cradle cd I bought, and the poor production never bothered me. Bought the remistressed cd and after first listen I still loved the original better. But after numerous times I have to admit, I think I like this better.
That fuckin filthy Dan can write some amazingly gripping tales of torture and depravity and brutality like none other. Every song is like a glimpse into the mind of a fucking brilliantly intelligent devil longing for his life story to be heard
This is pretty much my favourity COF Lineup. In particular, Barker und Robin Graves were the best rhythm section they had. Very memorable, distinctive bass lines and all out war drumming - but very tasteful.
When I have kids they'll for some reason the energy listen to the remaster version But when I'm with adults or want the rush of wonderful Adrenaline I'll be listening to the original
She danced so macabre Men entranced divined from her gait That this angel stepped from a pedestal Had won remission from fate By alighting to darker spheres Delighting in held sway For she was not unlike the Goddess To whom the wolves bayed
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