I've watched this video several times. I've always been a fan of "Systems", this one has fallen true. I stayed determined to it and profitted three times, in three days; each time only playing for about 6 hours. Each session made me about $200 give or take. Now thats not alot, but it paid for my BS expenses on the vacation and had a hell of a good time playing.So thanx DJ.
You are right, in most cases never take down your Don't bet. But sometimes I have been on a table where the shooter begins to hit number after number. You get a gut feeling the shooter will hit his point. Not very often I will do this but once in a while.
Yes your right, gut instinct is nearly always right. It's a very powerful method of playing, much better than mathematics. The problem is that it's virtually impossible to channel those thoughts. There have been study's carried out with airforce pilots to test gut instinct or ESP or whatever you want on call it, wherby the pilots were tested on the reflexes and whether they spotted danger fractionally beforehand.
Sometimes I do make larger odds bets. It depends the way the table is going. If it's really cold then you might want to do that. Most of the time I am using the "don't" stricktly as a hedge so it is not considered a money maker but more of an insurance against losing your place bets. It's really a "crap shoot" which ever way you play. LOL
True, have seen it but not very often. When that does start to happen, back off. Another strategy is to place pass and don't pass and then just put the odds bet on the don't. That way you are protected on the come out.
It’s a good way to build comps and stay alive for a long time at the table as long as you realize that there is no way to turn the odds in your favor, it’s not possible. I have charted tables for years and after about 50 rolls the long term odds start to show the longer you play the more the odds shift to the casino
thanks for this.. one tip.. labeling your videos tutorial 1/6.. 2/6.. would help identify the order in which we should watch these! ..but thanks again these are great.
WOW! Of course you can remove your don't pass bet at any time because it is at the casino advantage. Once you get to the don't pass you should NEVER take it off, because it is to your advantage. You already got through the 7 and 11 to get there. And I agree- don't make comments if you don't know the game!
Remember the Odds portion of the Don't Pass bet pays off at true odds. So 10 dollars on the 4 pays 5. But the straight Don't pays even so yes, that is in your favor. I would rarely take that down. And this may cause some to scoff but if I feel the table is pretty hot and I have already got a good profit on the 6 and 8 I may consider placing the point the Don't bet is on. Say it is a 10, placing it for 5 dollars will pay you 9 if he hits it and break even if he 7s out. So, no risk.
Brian Stevenson your never suppose to take your don't pass bet down. if you have $5 on the don't place the 9 for $5 if it hits you make $2 if they go out you break even. if you r chiseling and takin down 6 and 8's after a hit and removing odds then chisel the whole way and place the number instead of takin it down
+GoldGunsandGolf I've seen don't pass players remove their don't pass bet if the point is 6 or 8 because those 2 numbers have a tendency to come up the most. Unless it's a real bad table.
If it were true that there is no such thing as a "hot" or "cold" table, the craps table would be either full all the time or empty all the time. When the 7 shows more often, people lose more often and that is when the table is cold, but when the "Point" starts hitting more often, the table draws more players (UNTIL) that seven starts to dominate the rolls. If you don't believe it....just go to a table and observe!
Q: I put 50.00 on the Don't Come Bar after a point is established ...like "8". The dice are rolled and a "4" hits. So my money 50.00 is moved to the "4". *If the 8 is rolled on the next roll do I lose my 50.00 or is it lost only if a 4 is rolled? *If the 8 is rolled and I don't lose my money...what happens if a 7 is rolled on the come out roll? Q: I have money placed on 6, I have a come bet that's on 6 with full odds. If six hits, does the money that's on 6 get taken down or does it stay up? Q: Which bets can I take down between rolls?
+General Anxiety Answer to Question #1...When your $50 is moved to the 4 you win if the shooter rolls a 7. You lose $50 if the shooter rolls a 4. If the shooter makes the point, which is 8 then your bet stays. It wins if a 7 is rolled, even on the Come Out. Question #2...If you placed the 6 and you also have a come bet on the 6 and a 6 is rolled the dealer first pays you your come bet in full and it comes down. Your place bet 6 is also paid to you and it stays there if you want, or you can bring it down. Question #3...You can take all bets down on the table except pass line bets and Come bets. If your pass line or Come bet has odds you can remove those but the original bet stays. You can also increase those bets but not decrease it.
I would agree, not to take off don't bets, but the odds on don't bets are paid off at lower than even odds. So they are in the house's favor while they are out there.
The "Come" bet is the same as the pass line bet, but the next number rolled will be the point for that bet. So, you're actually having a little side action going. Say for example, you place a chip on the Come bet, if you or the shooter rolls a six, the six is now the point for that bet, but if a 7 is rolled, you lose. In this cas e you can bet the point and Pass Line. If a 7 or 11 is rolled on the come-out roll, the "Come" bet wins together with the Pass Line. If a 2,3 or 12, you lose.
Yeah, you have to see it to believe it. I am a very mathematical type and didn't believe it either. Till I hit my first hot roll and saw the shooter avoid the 7 for over 1/2 hour!
Actually all the place bets are off on the come out roll automatically unless you specifically tell the dealer that they are working on the come out. Not usually a great idea because I have seen a number of shooters hit a point and then a bunch of 7s then a bunch more points. So you would lose your 6 & 8.
I think if your on the don'ts placing the point is excellent insurance especially 4 or 10 and really especially if the bet's are higher amounts, the hard way trick has never worked well for me
I am only saying taking down the odds portion of the don't bet. I agree, never take down a flat don't bet but the odds portion is even with the house at best.
near the end of the video you mentioned you'll bet $1 on the hard 4 to have a kind of insurance with your dont pass bet. How long is the bet you place on the hard 4 good for? Is it only for 1 roll, or does that bet stay there until the shooter 7s out? Could you clarify which bets are only for ONE roll and which stay on the board until you either take them down or the shooter 7s out? THanks! Awesome videos btw!
craps has the best odds of winning than any other game in a casino. there is a guy who always wins big on craps because he mastered the art of rolling the dice, he'll roll 35 times before he 7's out. He goes by "the dominator" if any one has heard of him A&E or bio did a documentary on him called breaking vegas.
Would that you could with proper odds. There are two ways to be directly on the 7, one is called big red - that is the Any 7 on the layout. Problem is, it is one roll and only pays 5 to 1, not a great bet but sometimes when I want to play really safe, I use it as a hedge on the come out. Some would say to do a "no 4 or 10" but there you have to bet 40 to win 20 and pay a commision (you don't pay commission if you take it down). Other way to be 7 on some tables is called 7 hopping.
@tampicokeed Obviously not paying attention again. Never take down a don't bet once it hits a number. You have the advanatage. Why water it down with an odds bet? Straight don't on a 6 or 8 is 6-5 in your favor, if you add double odds your advantage takes a cut in half or better.
All in all you can only lose $10 right in the beginning, this works with any point you would just have to bet on the corresponding odds (e.g. 7:6 with 7:6..7:5 with7:5..9:5 with 9:5)
Hi Brian, I'm just beginning learning craps strategies. Will this strategy also work if instead of just betting on 6 and 8, you bet on the other numbers as well (except the point)? If so, what would be the appropriate betting strategy for the numbers and the don't pass odds? Thanks!
don't forget you loose your don't pass bet if a 7 or 11 hits on the come out..that can really slow you down. I do 15 on the don't pass with 20 odds, 30 on the 6 and 8 and 15 on the field...then let it ride all the way to the cage..
The problem with this system is the COME OUT ROLL. You cant place a DONT PASS bet after the point is established, this is because the player has the advantage once the point is established and the player has survived the COME OUT roll on the DONT PASS. SEVEN or ELEVEN wipes out the DONT PASS bet if rolled before the point is established, and sometimes people can roll a series of ELEVENS and SEVENS before a point is made.
Im sure what srd1126 meart to say was that there is no way at all to participate in a hot streak, without also participating in the cold streaks. Anything you observe about craps rolls are in the past and cannot in any way be used to determine a future
7 hopping costs you $3 and is a one roll bet with a $1 on each of the combos for a 7 - 3&4,5&2,6&1 - it pays 15 - 3. (Of course $3 big red also pays $15 - $3). So if you want to stay all day, $5 don't pass, $1 big red on come out. Sit and wait. You won't win or lose much.
Why do people who have never played or studied the game of craps make comments? On the come out for don't pass bets, 8 ways to lose, 3 ways to win, 1 way to push, and 24 ways to get on a number. Once on a number, Don't pass is always the favorite - 6&8 - 5 to 6, 5&9 - 4 to 6, 4&10 - 3 to 6. Yeah, it's random but with there being more ways to roll a 7 than a number, it will come up more often.
The land of reality. Don't comment if you have no knowledge of the game. ANY CASINO lets you remove your don't pass bet as it is in your favor once a point has been established.
if they were to crap out you would lose $2 in total>>(the 6$ on Six and Eight, but win on the Don't pass line $10) and if you hit the point six you would lose $3 (You would lose $10 on the Don't pass line and win 7$ on your point which is Six and take your eight down you would have a total of $19)..if they were to roll a seven though right in the beggining since you cant make a place bet before the comeout you would lose $10 on the don't pass.
Once you get wrapped up betting those boxes(6&8) pretty soon thats all you'll be thinking about. Dice can be cold table after table after table. Plus the casino is not even paying you correctly when they pay $7 for $6 on those 6/8's..it looks nice but they are actually shaving the payout which is hidden, of course they are not gonna tell you this and it gets worse betting in higher increments! Learn to bet wrong people and learn what it means.
well i play variations of thisystem. if you r hittin a 6 or 8 then takin it down n takin your odds off of the don't pass then the most you are gonna make any shooter is $14 and thats if the 6 and 8 hit and u pull your don't all the way down $19 if you take your 6 and 8 down and leave the don't pass flat bet $5 up. your almost 95% guaranteed to lose playing this way but you can last a while and socialize.
Yeah, I guess the best way to keep from getting hit with a golf ball is just to not play golf. Don't look at playing this game as a way to make money but for the entertainment value and you will be a lot happier. If you are not entertained by the game, don't play it.
I hate when people talk about hopping at a "hot" table...each roll is the past. I play craps...never do I bet on other shooters roll other than a lay bet on 4 after I see it. Do like me and learn controlled shooting and bet on yourself.
great system if you wanna sit at a table for hours and grind away dollars at time ... systems do not work ... the odds are against you no matter what ... all this and any craps system does is hedge your bet which means you are betting against yourself! Hedging your bet is a horrile gameplan ... ya you might win a coulpe bucks at a time until a bunch of sevens hit on the come out roll and you are on the donts. the goal on the donts is to avoid a 7 on the come out. no need to hedge with place bets
I'm not a fan of this type of play. Just place the 6 and 8 and roll. Why hedge against it?? If 6 and 8 are rolling a lot your going to win if not you'll lose, that's gambling. If your that concerned just bet the minimum on them, and if your winning then press them up.
Wrong!! The house always encourages you to remove your dont bet--it makes them money. If you have a habit of removing your dont bet from any number, you dont understand the math of craps and shouldnt be playing at all. If you have a $50 bet on th 6/8dont, and remove it after th point is made,(or say "no action" from th DC) you have thrown away $4.55 for every time you do it over the long term!
Why would anyone who's serious about playing systems waste their time on a US version of Craps with shaved odds. Its a rip off! In the UK and other places such as Australia and South Africa they have the original odds. For example, 2 & 12 pay 33 to 1 not 30 to 1. 3 & 11 pay 16 -1 not 15 - 1. In the field, 2 or sometimes 12 pay triple. Hard ways pay 9 1/2 and 7 1/2 to 1 not 9 & 7 to 1 as on the US version and the 4 & 10 pay 9 1/2 to 5. Your better off playing Keno!
Brian, You lost me brother...I was with you until right after you suggested to take the $9.00 Don't Pass odds bet down. Maybe I'm getting a little tired, but as a teacher, I think you need to have more physical demonstration with chips and dice as you did in your 6 & 8 strategy video. Your audience for this type of video is going to be a beginner and trust me, the best way to lose an audience is to have too much lecture.
Staying alive Waiting On The Roll Has many Methods. But This Is Not one of Them. He is A Good Ole Boy and a bit of a gambler Its About Diseplyns And M0ney Management. One Must Pay For That At The Tables Or At The money bucket .biz
Another non-player. If you don't play the game why do these idiots make a comment? Anyone who has played the game knows there are streaks, anyone who has played has seen that 30 min roll where the shooter hits multiple points and no sevens.
the guy is a snake-oil salesman. There is no such thing as a "hot-roll" every roll is independent. If you want to increase your odds of winning just bet pass or don't pass and take/lay full odds. Full odds is the only bet in a casino with no hose advangtage.
Craps 6 & 8 with Don't Bets is a good way to play. Basically, you are playing the percentages which are in your favor. 6,8 and 7 have the most combinations on the dice. If you place a $50 Don't Pass, and $ 3 units on the 5, 6, 8 (total $51) and either $5 or $10 in the field, you will have every number working for you including the 7. With this strategy, you have options. You can take 3 hits and call your place bets off and remove your field bet, leave the Don't Pass, or you could remove the don't pass. You could leave the Don't Pass and and put a right way bet (place bet) on the point number and if it hits, you get the odds. You could also lay the odds on the Don't Pass. Several ways to go. If you don't get greedy, its a good way to play.
I can hear em now! Boring. Sometimes the most fun at a craps table is watching the "Big rollers" drop a couple of thousand while consuming large quantities of relatively free booze. (yeah yeah, I know, you should not drink when gambling, same as you should wear a condom having sex, but it feels better without)
There is no way to win in a casino. All betting systems win sometimes. You will feel like a genious when u win. When u lose though you will feel its just not your day. Systems are just a way to entertain ur self. dont expect to win at any system. Have fun and create ur own losing systems. because thats what systems do. they lose eventually. If you are smart you will never pay for a system.
my comment is why not put $6 dollars on Six while it is the point and $6 dollars on Eight and 10$ on Dont Pass that way if you hit the Eight and take it down you have a profit of 7$ and if they crap out you now have you get ten dollars that you bet and dollars that you won and have $33 in total and you put $22 on the table to begin with so you make a $11 profit & $22 profit if it hit again
NEVER, EVER, EVER TAKE your DONT BETS off no matter what the number or how you feel!!! The ODDS ALWAYS favor the seven after a number is established or a DONT established. It was hard enough to get past a 7 or 11 now the odds favor YOU ..NEVER TAKE THEM OFF! If I COULD BOOK ALL the ppls money that DO THAT..FROM MY HOUSE(24/7) I WOULD DO IT!!!
If you lose 3 times in a row you are only losing the $5 don't pass bet while leaving the $12 on the 6 and 8 unless you are talking about getting on a number and hitting the number right away. If that's the case I would suggest making a $1 fire bet. $40 if he hits 4 numbers, $200 for 5, $500 for all 6.
Every bet is an individual event. Your 6 and 8 place bet will lose whenever a 7 rolls whether you bet the don’t or not. The house welcomes you to take the don’t pass after a point is established. You should never take down a don’t bet. Your don’t bet doesn’t effect your place bets.
Obviously someone who does not play the game. Probably a rebelliant teenager. The don't bet actually wins on a 7 after the point has been established. Pay more attention before you spout off. Sorry the "lingo" doesn't fit. These videos were off the cuff and not intended to be lingo accurate.
thespooneytube: Using the 11 to buy the dontpass isn't very good because of the variance on that roll, I personally use the field to purchase my bets (everyone says it's bad betting, but doubling up works perfectly fine because it is the LEAST variant bet on the board). I usually dontpass 1 and buy with field, if i lose field i'll go 3 field to buy the dontcome and place hedge on point, after dontcome passes, hedge it and fieldup for another dontcome and continue, i usually rake $10/minute.
This whole nonsense about the "hot roll" seems to be where all of this breaks down. The odds of rolling a number are the odds...each time the dice is thrown. That's why I've never understood this "craps system" nonsense.
To me there really is no foolproof scheme and winning on at craps but I had some lucrative games playing come and field bet at the same time what you guys think about that or Monster Shooter start giving a lot of numbers I start going don't come golden freezer what do you guys think about that
there may not be such a thing, but whatever you call it - I've been there. Beginners luck led me to a table the second time I ever played the game. I started with less than 100 and walked away a couple of hours later with 1200, and I'm sure I was betting conservatively as a beginner. Call it a "hot table" or not, that streak paid for our trip to Tunica! Still looking for a table like that and that was 5 years ago!
@KaitonsCorner: Yes, they pay 2:1 on the 4,10 place, and you aren't required to bet the pass line. But why should I bet my life savings, because this still doesn't mean I have the mathematical advantage. It just means they DON'T have it. I shouldn't expect to win anything.
Thats why the casino will encourage players to take the dont pass bets off if asked. the odds are in YOUR FAVOR of course they want you to take it off.
Could be a hot table or cold table or medium table. I look for an aura as I approach a table.Got to cut this post short. My aura was off last month and I’m being evicted
Yes, it seems that way. And I deal the game at the "fun-night" level and I have seen what looks to be a "trend." If you enjoy yourself, do so. But do not delude yourself into thinking it is the same as a good count in BJ, it is not.
@labulldog5 You must be talking about a buy bet, and you pay a vig on the win. Hence all the dollar chips you're forking over when you get paid your true odds.
I try to get my don't bet off the 5 and 9 as early as possible. Once I have a hit on the 6 or 8 remove the odds and on another hit remove the don't bet altogether.
