I know this sounds ridiculous but I bought some to scare the coyotes away out of my yard. I can’t have them after my dogs. They keep coming near the fence.
I`ve played cymbal for 5 years. I know which sound is better. He played it correct and please do not make any conclusion without knowledge. His grip is for orchestra and there is another grip for marching. Hope you understand. #MasterCymbal
Thanks very much, Vic! I'm a pianist by training but I have to play one cymbal crash in the middle of a talk later this month, and now I know exactly how to do that! Great detailed instruction.
Thank you, I never knew there we many tactics for crash cymbals, i don’t do Percussion I’m a woodwind player. But with this video it made me understand better how to handle crash cymbals and not get embrassed to ask my BD
Though I’m mainly a woodwind player, I got involved with percussion REALLY quickly and I have a deep love for cymbals. The crunches to crashes. The chokes to sizzles. Yeah. And I would argue about the orchestral cymbal visual for showing the cymbal to “your mom” or audience. That would probably just be at the finale like “Also Sprach Zarathustra” or “Hallelujah Chorus” or any “finale” of a piece, because it gives it that “encore” and “standing innovation” and it’s just pleasing to see. So I would just do the crash visual at the end of the finale piece.
In Peru this technique for playing cymbals is quite developed. I cannot say that we are the best because that is not in our thinking but I can tell you that the technique we use to play the cymbals is unique in the world.
Fun fact: the first cymbals ever made were created in 1624 in Constantinople buy a man named Avedis who was trying to make gold by mixing different types of metal together and discovered that they had unique sound qualities, then showed them to the king(if the ottoman empire had something like that which I'm sure they did) of the Ottoman Empire to be used as a weapon to frighten enemies before they found it more useful as a percussion instrument, the man created these cymbals was given the name Zildjian which meant "Cymbal maker" in Armenian, and in 1624 Avedis Zildjian created the Zildjian company
Expanded Copy I was referring to modern crash cymbals but yes, you are also right as well. Especially in places in South East Asia like China, Japan, the Indochinese region, Malaysia and Indonesia
+André van Haren right! :) the "old players" (see VPO 1970-76) used these cymbals as suspended too: left hand holds the cymbal with his leather strap, the right hand plays a stroke with a mallet. VPO used this technique for the "one hand roll" too in Mahler under L. Bernstein. But today it is preferred a cymbal holder, playing a roll with both hands. "Crash cymbal" = the cymbal at the lefthand side of your drum set, that is different than a "suspended cymbal" (= more sustain than a drum set crash, suspended cymbal for symphonic orchestral purposes or for concert band). Clashed cymbals are these in the video above called "a2" too, or hand cymbals, or Becken or "mit Tellern", -- or "piatti volanti" in Puccini only -- . Its the same ;)
Thanks for the explanation! So when I want in my scores the 2 separate cymbals, I should write clashed cymbals. Right now I described my percussion section in a score I recently finished as shown below, but that is not correct, I will change this: Percussion: Bass Drum, 3 Timpani (32/28/25), Gong, Suspended Cymbal (with soft marimba mallet), Crash Cymbals, Triangle, Snare Drum, Tambourine, Wind Chimes
Hi, yes I agree with you. Are you composer? congraulations! I could say: bass drum is ok, timpani: we have Ludwig therefore we have 32-29-26-23, perhaps Premier timpani are 30-28-25-22 1/2, but I guess that you could simply write the range of the timpani (for example E-A 8th above: the lowest and the highest note that you want), then the player is able to make an "indipendent" choice, even without the meansures; gong or tamtam? tamtam = not a precise tune and it is shaped without the blight in the center; suspended cymbal is ok (you could add "large" or "small"...if you want to obtain a bright sound or dark....); the clashed cymbals is very good (or simply "cymbals a2"); snare drum is ok (with snares/without snares or "snares on" / "snares off": if you dont use snare off its enough what you wrote). Hey then upload your composition here, so I can hear it. super!! :)
Hi Andrea, thanks for the definitions of the instruments, I will adjust them where needed. I made virtual recordings of the last orchestral piece that I worked on this whole year and finished recently. It's a suite in 7 parts, I uploaded them here: soundcloud.com/andrevanharen/sets/seven-symphonic-poems I used these measurements for the timpani to get the pitch I was going for and to be sure the player has them available during all the pieces. Maybe it wasn't necessary to be that specific though. The gong should be a deep sound so I think gong is good in this case. theSnare drum is always with snares on, so I will leave it as is. To be honest, I didn't even thing of the possibility to use the s.d. without the snares on. :)
Hi, you can use snare drum with "rim shot" too (stick on the edge + on the head). oh thanks for the link, but unfortunately I go "Sorry! Something went wrong Is your network connection unstable or browser outdated?" I have Firefox 41.0.1. its stange... ok I will try tomorrow, changing my settings in about:config.
1. I think the cymbal is the shield because he holded two cymbals. 2. A person transports the ballet very swiftly from the gun to the cymbal, and how does the cymbal sound?
What is wrong with holding the cymbals like this? Someone please tell me why it's bad because I play cymbals like that and there's no real problem with it
Nothing is wrong with it for orchestral playing. People saying otherwise don’t understand that marching band techniques are not appropriate for orchestra.
Some people (including me) take crash cymbal to mean a smaller cymbal (14-16") struck with a stick (e.g. part of a drum kit) while clash cymbals are those shown in this video
So how would you go about having a crescendo-ing sizzling sound followed by a crash? Would this be done by having one person play a suspended cymbal and then having someone else do the crash (and I guess having two separate lines of music?), or is there any way of this all being done by one person? I'm thinking someone hitting a suspended cymbal would not create the right sound and it appears the crash cymbals can't create the roll I was hoping for.
My band teacher tells me to slide the cymbals across each other diagonally, I still struggle with air pocketing, my concert is tonight. If anyone can help please tell me.
I played marching grip for our concert 2night. Always will. But like the narrator says, Its all tech. Man, I cringe when I hear a bad cymbal crash. word
Man you play cymbals wrong then lol. This is the correct way for orchestral style playing. If you play cymbals in concert band the same way you do in marching band hate to break it to you but you’re doing it wrong.
Marching and orchestral percussion are very different. This is correct for orchestral style playing. Anyone saying this technique is incorrect doesn’t understand the difference between marching and orchestral percussion.
Are you talking about David Skidmore? A graduate of both Northwestern's Bienen School of Music as well as the Yale School of Music? I dare you to even audition at one of those schools. Nerves can get the best of anyone, but you shouldn't question the authority of an artist of his caliber.