CRASHGATE Simplified - A Detailed Account About Formula 1's Darkest Moment

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What would make a Formula 1 driver throw their car into the wall on purpose? In this video I'll take you through the twist & turns of the events that followed the 2008 Singapore GP - more simply known as Crashgate. Subscribe if I earned it so I can make more for you: bit.ly/2T3TGbK
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ACT I - THE FALL FROM GRACE - 0:55
Meet The Double World Champ: 1:55
ACT II - THE CRASH - 4:02
The Loop Hole - 5:44
How Massa Ruined His Championship: 6:30
The Animated Timeline - 8:20
The FIA's Official Accusation: 9:34
The FISA Leaks - 10:02
The Sentencing - 12:25
Where's There's Smoke, There's Fire - 14:08
Did Alonso Know - 15:20
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@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

DID ALONSO KNOW. It's the sole question that's consuming me. You tell me. Plausible deniability, not audible team radio - Either way, here's a detailed account of what happened. Subscribe if I earned it: bit.ly/2T3TGbK Here Are The Time Stamps To Help You Navigate: ACT I - THE FALL FROM GRACE - 0:55 Meet The Double World Champ: 1:55 ACT II - THE CRASH - 4:02 The Loop Hole - 5:44 How Massa Ruined His Championship: 6:30 The Animated Timeline - 8:20 The FIA's Official Accusation: 9:34 The FISA Leaks - 10:02 The Sentencing - 12:25 Where's There's Smoke, There's Fire - 14:08 Did Alonso Know - 15:20

@AndyFromBeaverton 4 года назад

I wonder what was happening in the pits before the crash. Were there mechanics abnormally ready to change tires? Speaking about knowing or not knowing, I always felt Hamilton knew about the stolen technical information in Spygate. I also feel that Dennis asked Alonso to tell the press he knew and Hamilton didn't.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

AndyFromBeaverton I’m pretty you are correct about each of those statements haha I’m of the opinion the only stories were told were bc they were caught . I would do anything to have more footage. Or get my hands on the raw radio. I got pretty deep until I hit some inaudible stuff. That’s why for all it’s problems I really like F1TV today. They still try to limit some stuff when it’s controversial like hiding the replay for a couple hours but for the most part you can see almost everythingggg

@bigbaderek1978 4 года назад

I say no by design..it's easier to deny something you don't know about

@bigbaderek1978 4 года назад

@@AndyFromBeaverton I think f1 compartmentalize a lot better than that..there is no worldly reason hamilton would need that data so it wouldn't be given to him. The fewer people know about something the easier it is to keep secret. But who know if Alonso knew maybe they were just telling everyone that walked in the garage

@diegovillavicencio3172 4 года назад

Of course he did 😂 I can't believe people actually doubt that

@TheBigAyland 4 года назад

I love that Piquet Jr was replaced by Grosjean. "We told you to crash the car. But this guy, he doesn't even need to be told"

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Hahah yeah I never knew if that looked worse on people Who claimed at first it’s impossible to wreck like that on purpose until it all came out or on Grosjean for doing it on accident . What a treasure!

@jarredmcguinn876 4 года назад

BAHHAHAAA Genius

@KingKyzn 4 года назад

Grosjean is such a clumsy driver , ANYONE that races F1 is a great driver end of story ... but out of those great drivers .... idk how grosjean still has a team to race for . Hes always either crashing, causing a crash, complaining about someone else being too aggressive with him, or spinning the car lol

@LuisTrey 4 года назад

@@KingKyzn Don't worry. Grosjean won't be back in Formula 1 after his current contract ends.

@CMDRSweeper 4 года назад

Nah! He is the Gross Jean of course! VintageBeef and KurtjMac's old F1 races were epic!

@Conservator. 4 года назад

The whole incident gave ING (in the middle of the financial crisis) a very welcome legally valid excuse to immediately terminate their $300 million sponsor agreement.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

HAHAH yes i have notes on that and it's in the blog. I used to work in finance i remember this being a major deal. the were ending end of the season and it was literally the 15th race. would have used ANYTHING. Also not in this video, Brundle gets REALLY cagey with a group of ING people in Parc fermé before the race trying to grab drivers to interview. you all are smarter than me - but i can't figure out why he was so on edge about it. it did seem really set up but yeah a lot of weird they were down there and like grabbed him to talk awkwardly

@Conservator. 4 года назад

CrankyYankeeF1 Haha, I worked at ING back then. Didn’t know about Brundle and ING people in parc fermé (and I very much doubt being smarter then you!).

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Conservator oh dang so you have all the goods! I knew you had to that’s the only way you’d also find that part fascinating I thought I’d be the only one. Only thing more savage than asking a desperate man to run into a wall to help the team is ING yanking their $$ without batting an eye haha

@TestarossaF110 4 года назад

ING is now known to be not 100% fair, like most banks obviously but supporting the people they did only for money is simply wrong.

@Conservator. 4 года назад

Stijn Weijters You are much to harsh on ING imo. ING had a simple sponsor deal with the team. ING was a very large but relatively unknown bank and by being the name sponsor of the F1 team they simply bought publicity. Nobody could have foreseen the event described in this video. It’s common practice to stop a sponsorship when the sponsored entity does something illegal or against the rules of the sport. Just like cyclist are fired as from their teams if they are caught using doping. ING had every right to terminate the sponsorship. The fact that it was convenient for them at the time doesn’t make it wrong or even dubious imo.

@bendtfender2894 4 года назад

After Alonso wins and they cut to the pits, Piquet's face says it all.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

I started playing with this footage only today on a whim and it turned out IMO to be the strongest aspect. I'm glad someone noticed it. That's even chopped up from the 720p footage available. it's almost cringe the full thing. It's SOO obvious. Piquet literally just stares at him like "oh you're not even going to thank me bro" haha. he holds that little gaze at the end when Flavio looks away even just darts into the side of his head

@JaiSingh-it8zp 4 года назад

Link or time stamp?

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Jai Singh BBCs 4 minute video has it in real time

@joemommasvids 4 года назад

@@CYMotorsport where can I see this?

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Joe Momma give it a search on RU-vid it should be a relatively high volume search I would imagine

@SceneArtisan 4 года назад

Martin Brundle's always been a savvy commentator; he intimated the crash might have been deliberate during commentary for this SG GP 2008 race, well before the scandal came to light.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

his handling of the ING team on the paddock was wild. I think that was the moment he knew something was off. you HAVE to find that clip. they like grab him almost awkwardly to like be seen on camera. coupled with Alonso's strategy, it's almost like he proved motive and came to the conclusion while it happened live haha . I love his field reporting

@SceneArtisan 4 года назад

@@CYMotorsport I can't find it, anyway, I've seen so many videos about it but also saw the race live and the unfolding events afterwards, suffice it to say, I think Brundle had SOME idea of what the thought processes were of what had happened at the race but he couldn't quite put his finger on it. Either which way, it was a proper scandal, almost as big as the Spygate scandal that affected McLaren and Ferrari the year before (McLaren guy Mike Coughlan taking car design elements/schematics from Ferrari guy Nigel Stepney).

@F1fan4eva 4 года назад

CrankyYankeeF1 is this the clip? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-is9N34oP9aQ.html What am I looking for in it?

@nathanbloke 4 года назад

@@SceneArtisan Alonso had his sticky fingers in that scandal too. The guy's toxic.

@SceneArtisan 4 года назад

@@nathanbloke My guess is Alonso genuinely didn't know about WHAT was going to be done (to help him win), but he might have known SOMETHING was. My guess is he heard *something* like this over the radio from one of the senior personnel (at Renault F1) prior to Nelson Piquet Jnr deliberately crashing: "Fernando, we're going to try something, be prepared to come in to the pits!".

@peterberger2591 4 года назад

„The season 2008 came to a close relatively quietly“ Lewis Hamilton: Am I a Joke to you?

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Hahaha I know I didn’t really consider the implications there . One of the best season closers ever 🤫

@M4rkV3n0m 4 года назад

Answer to Lewis Hamilton: YES!

@ZuluRomeo 4 года назад

Timo Glock: HEY. 😜

@dianamaioru497 3 года назад

@@M4rkV3n0m Not anymore he isn’t! 7 Championship titles babyyyy!! 👏

@thewarlock539 3 года назад

@@ZuluRomeo YES YES IT IS GLOCK, OH MY GOODNESS ME!

@michaelkenny4124 4 года назад

An interview that stuck with me is, after all the facts of crash gate came out in the open, Alonso was asked on camera if he still considers that race a fair win, he smiled smugly and replied yes. I would 100% say he was involved. It wouldn't even surprise me if his involvement was covered up as he was too important within F1. Just my thoughts.

@coolguy10060 4 года назад

If it ever does come out it wouldn't suprise me at all

@goqsane 4 года назад

I have absolutely no doubt he was in on it from the very first second. He is a lying cheat that's been essentially kicked out of F1.

@renanfilipe7459 4 года назад

After the Ferrari McLaren incident, I don't doubt he had some immunity in this

@D4N13Lfpv 4 года назад

Kicked out after 18 years? I doubt it. Don’t be surprised if we see him back in 2021

@vincer9960 4 года назад

@@goqsane Lying cheat? LOL. How is he a cheat? Team personnel conspired to get one of their drivers (Piquet) to crash in order to assist the other's (Alonso's) chances of winning. There's no need for Alonso to know about this conspiracy before or while it was happening because he didn't need to know in order for the operation to be carried out & succeed. Only some of the Renault personnel had to know. Alonso just had to drive the car as usual and pit when he was told by the engineer on the radio. There's literally no reason to tell Alonso about the operation. When conspiracies happen, it's usually just the people needed to carry out the operation who know what's going on (sometimes even some of those people don't really know the whole story as often information is very compartmentalized).

@ogmaqs 4 года назад

Robert Kubica questioned the whole right after getting out of the car on that very day... Just because he felt robbed of a potential win and immediately suggested something's strange. But as far as I know that was in Polish, to the Polish media, so never really got any attention from the worldwide media. And back then nobody would even imagine that someone could have fixed a race this way. The whole circus just moved along.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

yep I came across this too. What's lost due to time is MOST of the grid felt it was off when Alonso pitted. but I think bc it was alonso and he was battling for 5th and he won fairly in Japan, it just kinda went away. good insight and thanks for commenting!

@alvarakesh 4 года назад

@@CYMotorsport lol... even rosberg gained from that crash... no way he would have got Podium otherwise

@domformula1 Год назад

So did heidfeld

@raimas1000 4 года назад

Died laughing when the dude said "..to bring in Romain Grosjean of all people." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

shanon shirname of COURSE Grosjean wrecked the same exact way in the same exact spot that next year too haha

@wzpu3283 4 года назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yO8MdjqhFbQ.html

@ericwestrick462 4 года назад

I laughed when he said the one guys name was "Flabbio" lol

@Kxji 4 года назад

I laughed a bit too 🤣

@Ojasvastani 4 года назад

🤣🤣🤣🤣 coz he doesn’t need to be told

@TIB1245L 3 месяца назад

Here after Flavio Briatore was appointed as executive advisor for Alpine

@TheJokerit19 3 месяца назад

Same

@FEARYOYOYO 4 года назад

Wow man. Such high quality.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

One of those videos I've been staring at tweaking I seriously can never watch this again haha. by far the most tedious I've ever done but worth it because i've finally got the animation software at 5:55 in a really good place. seriously can't wait to put that into motion for you guys. so many applications.

@killerkale8047 4 года назад

CrankyYankeeF1 I literally read that as twerking and i got to say i was quite confused

@jonathanhowland42 3 года назад

“Relax ladies he’s still a kid” when it shows Vettel celebrating is my favorite part.

@blxtothis 4 года назад

As soon as Briattore is involved one just knows something dodgy is happening.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

blxtothis doing the 2005 US GP and guess who has a little role in the controversy haha

@kosmosyche 4 года назад

Yep, his Wikipedia page starts with mentioning 2 prison sentences for fraud (which he successfully dodged for many years unil he received "amnesty") and this was only the humble beginnings of his career. lol Basically an Italian mafioso at the helm of an F1 team. Classic. Ladies and gentlemen, cream of the crop of F1 world. Still, great plan, but they forgot to whack the snitch. Thought the birdie won't sing since they were in it together. lol

@TheAngrySaxon1 4 года назад

He should never be permitted near another race ever again.

@darwinism18 3 года назад

@@kosmosyche that's why he is a Juventus fan, a match made in heaven

@mrdllo1731 2 года назад

He made the Schumacher and Alonso he build them as they are

@DominikSutara 4 года назад

OMG just realized that it's strange to hear american accent not british in F1 channel. respect and cheers from Croatia :))

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

haha I get that a lot. or when I actually say names correctly, it sounds weird. Thanks for stopping by and for mentioning that - always nice to see how open people are :)

@DominikSutara 4 года назад

@@CYMotorsport No probs, super videos and very good and understandable naration. keep this up :))) merry xmass too

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Dominik Sutara and to you!

@petar4786 4 года назад

Pozz

@DominikSutara 4 года назад

@@petar4786 pozz

@alexrahnder7868 4 года назад

5:36 That is the perfect picture of Rosberg 😂

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

He owned it for new Years it was kinda legendary

@3ormorecharactersmaybe5 4 года назад

@CrankyYankeeF1 ah I see, a man of culture as well

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Firstname15 Lastname I respect his talents. I gave him meme honors in the closing frames of today’s video I’m posting here in a few hours Albeit not as kind to him there haha

@jamesh1208 4 года назад

Is @@CYMotorsport 's career over??

@lzh4950 4 года назад

Rosberg: *Is my race over? * _Reply: _ Nope (he finished 2nd) but Kubica's is (he finished 11th)

@notgoinback2cali236 4 года назад

I remember watching that race live, and the American commentators mentioned that up and down the pit lane people felt like something was wrong with the result of that race. Those feelings in the moment seem to have been lost to the sands of time.

@isaacostrow9613 4 года назад

Poor Massa- in my eyes he joins Barrichello as one of the recent greats to retire w/o a WDC.

@xdbetyar 4 года назад

1 point. 1 point and he is the most recent brazilian champion. 1 point and he becomes a hero in eyes of brazilians.

@TheEmolano 4 года назад

Sadly he was never fast after the accident. It's ironically that from all 21 drivers it happened to be a Barrichello's car piece that hit him.

@Pinhead101 3 года назад

Lol. Barrichello was a mediocre driver

@123dan165 3 года назад

@@Pinhead101 no he wasn't he was extremely solid and consistent you clearly weren't watching early 2000s F1. If Ferrari made him a number 1 driver or if Brawn did the same then he would have a had maybe 1 possibly 2 championships.

@brick4522 3 года назад

@@Pinhead101 how a mediocre driver stay in formula 1 for over 20 years in formula 1 on top teams?

@1312_PV 4 года назад

I think Briatore told Alonso that he just had to obey and they could win the race in a "if I tell you you'll be liable, so just don't ask" kind of way.

@braxtonb3787 4 года назад

Alonso absolutely knew , listen to alonso question his engineer in any race he constantly wants to be updated. Why would that race be any dfferent.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Yeah I mean I can’t say it. But his onboards are vocal all season. We’re supposed to pretend he let Pat Symmonds send him out on a bull shit strategy and magically he was quiet ? I mean, maybe

@alvarakesh 4 года назад

@@CYMotorsport lol... how is it a bullshit strategy to not go all aggressive when you have drivers around you who could slow you down... even Rosberg had the same kinda stratergy....

@marcas8269 3 года назад

There were no proofs to prove he was involved. You can look it up on the Internet, every site will say the same

@satwikroy1989 3 года назад

@@alvarakesh Because if you're looking to maximize your point scoring opportunity on Raceday from a position as low as 15th, you'll opt for a conservative strategy to last longer on track and take 1 pit stop and undercut other teams. Pitting on lap 12 from that position made ZERO sense.

@bigbrain2178 3 года назад

@@satwikroy1989 Yeah nah he knew

@Damonnanashi 4 года назад

Renault: embroiled in crash-based controversy. Also Renault: immediately hired driver known for crashing.

@michaelx4810 4 года назад

Maybe they thought that it being a night race it would literally be run in the dark and no one would notice lol

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

"quick, CRASH" hahah meanwhile it has enought lights to be seen from space

@pauline6868 4 года назад

As a new F1 fan I am really grateful for people like you who shed light on controversies and make F1 and what happens there easy to understand/get into.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Pauline Fritsch that’s the entire goal of this channel. Lift the veil for those who have always wanted to get into formula 1 and prove an interesting take on the sport. As an American I know how uninviting it can Feel. It’s why I have millions of views but such a low subscribe count in relation. If I removed that American reference from my channel I’m sure my rates would go up but I leave it out of principle. Something I haven’t done yet and haven’t seen but am really considering is doing an “F101” where I do really short 3-4 min, videos on the technical components to give people a refresher on important things like pit strategy, safety car, etc. would you be interested in that or do you like the history stuff more?

@pauline6868 4 года назад

@@CYMotorsport I think the history is very captivating and shows the bigger picture, but it would be great as well to learn the basics that most tv moderators/commentators neglect because they take it for granted that everyone watching knows it already. So lessons in basic F1 would be very much appreciated

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Pauline Fritsch it’s affirming to hear that - most of my audience I’m fighting an uphill battle with in terms of their life long exposure so always pushing the envelope which is great and highly Challenging but I will be producing more of the basics too for everyone to brush up on. Frankly, as much as people pretend they understand some of those “basic” concepts, I don’t think they do all the time. Be on the lookout! More to come :)

@H3110NU 4 года назад

How does this channel only have 12k subs?‽‽ this is some high quality well edited vids...

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Drew Gorman you’re here now! That’s all that matters to me :) I’ll get the sub count that matches the amount of effort per video so long as I focus individually on you all the best I can! Thank you for the support mate

@justinsmith7416 4 года назад

He’s up to 37.8k subs now! Give it another two months and you’ll see 50k ;)

@BeBobFerrari99 4 года назад

Alonso was involved and I know because he told me personally. “I did that shit, bro.” - close personal friend, Fernando “Champ” Alonso

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Haha you should have testified

@explorerr33 4 года назад

don't you mean ex close personal friend?

@rattusnorvegicus4380 3 года назад

With friends like you, who needs enemies.

@F1P1AdacoL Год назад

Whos here after Ecclestone said he knew about it in 2008 and Massa started an investigation into his lost championship?

@TheJokerit19 Год назад

@Mineirovsky 4 года назад

I was watching the race live when Reginaldo Leme gave the breaking news a year or so later (I'm brazilian, Leme was the guy who first gave the news during a live transmission). It was huge, bc Piquet Jr. took the title away from Massa and Piquet Sr. was the one who gave the info to Leme (Leme and Piquet Sr. are very close and they were waiting some conclusions before informing the rest of the world what took place during that GP)... I mean it what a mess. I like Piquet Sr., bc he's a stand up guy, but as a brazilian I can't never forgive his son for what he indirectly did to Massa. It was the last chance a brazilian had to win the championship.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

how do Brazilians view this? is that the common thinking? i was so curious about this but had no Brazilians to talk to before publishing so I had to only mention it a couple times. I wanted to include so much more about that, person x, etc. all that is best part, it's just so in the weeds haha you're the the outlier i would say for sure, in a good way! I was surprised building this out how in the loop Piquet SR. was that really actually shocked me. and just how bold flavio was til the end about denial

@Mineirovsky 4 года назад

@@CYMotorsport I assume every brazilian who is up to speed with F1 thinks the same: Piquet Jr. (aka Nelsinho) indirectly took the title away from Massa. Hamilton did a great job, but if we remove Nelsinho away from the equation, Massa would have won the title. Leme, a journalist, said he had a feeling from Piquet Sr. after an interview, so Leme approached him (they're old friends etc.) asking about the accident. Piquet Sr. said he couldn't confirm everything then, but he would keep Leme up to speed in the following months (only the people involved knew what was going on). Then Piquet Jr. lost his sit and Leme gave us the braking news about the staged accident during a live F1 race. The world came to know what was going on under the curtains and the rest we all know. People can't prove it, so it's speculation: Piquet Sr. knew it since the beginning, he did what he did to help and protect his son in the F1 world, place where - in his mind - is very dangerous to a rookie driver. When he figured out he couldn't do anything else to help Nelsinho, he called Leme to gave the full story.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

@@Mineirovsky and I assumed that's why Sr. was so involved. that leak that happened same day. pretty smart actually of him

@MrHamza-SF488 4 года назад

For rrason i like Brazilian f1 drivers and that will be not the last chance for an f1 Brazilian driver to win the championship there will others, i wish that massa was the one who won that champion and i believed that he'll do much better after that but lot of things happened that destroyed him (2009 crash, team orders...), In the end i assure u that there will other Brazilian drivers and they'll have a fan from algeria. Mean while let's hope massa gets his head straight and start doing some damag in Formula E 🙏🙏🙏

@Bahamuttiamat 4 года назад

May I toss spa 08 into consideration.

@connorfrey8597 4 года назад

it's laughable P.S say Piquet idea to crash !! So a rookie calling the shots on strategy over Symonds and Briatore omg lol lol

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

yeah that was weird. for as honest as people have said Pat is, that one I can't let go. why would Piquet think he would even need to initiate the idea? it's kind of illogical.

@gamefan56 4 года назад

@@CYMotorsport I think the theory is that Piquet offered to sacrifice himself by crashing in order to stay in the good graces of Renault and not lose his seat. That said it's still a ridiculous theory.

@Marceloloeite 4 года назад

I'd say either he bargained or was promised to have his contract renewed for the next season if he complied. That's probably why he was so quick to expose the scandal after he was sacked. They betrayed him

@radityaindera3442 4 года назад

He may know something but not everything down to the very detail. Thus he can deny anything thrown at him. Alonso is smart, he probably knew its going to be fishy and had escape plan of his own and worked briliantly for him.

@EauRouge 4 года назад

The Corruption Cocktail: Piquet Jr. trying to win some "favours" in exchange for his prepubescent career, a mix of Briatore's and Simmond's "whatever it takes" view of racing and Alonso's (of course he knew) thirst of wins and keep himself relevant despite Renault's less than a mediocre car... Wonderful video mate!!

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

This guy gets it! This was born to happen. These are my favorite stories. Working on the same for 2017 season now!

@MulettoMotorsports 3 года назад

There's absolutely NO WAY Alonso didn't know. We've seen people do worse just to win. Coincidentally under Briattore's management.

@SALMAIDA1275 3 года назад

It was probably his idea

@HilbertXVI 3 года назад

@@SALMAIDA1275 Nah, most probably not

@jussieronen3707 3 года назад

Either he didn't know or he's just very good at lying. One could argue that he didn't question the odd strategy call of the team because he had nothing to lose.

@NshbrVrjsn 2 года назад

there was a way tho

@josedupuydelome9486 2 года назад

There is Absolutely NO WAY you know if alonso was involved, so do us a favor and don’t acuse people with no evidence

@olegpetrovic Год назад

BUT HERE COMES FELIPE MASSA

@dcsoda1 4 года назад

Very well done video explaining everything. It’s absolutely hilarious to me that a crash on lap 14 of 61 decided the race.

@dylandickeson2929 4 года назад

"If you no longer go for a gap which exists, you are no longer a racing driver" -God

@bradster1708 4 года назад

Dylan Dickeson, By God do you mean in his earthly form as Ayrton Senna?

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Ironically he regretted this being one of his more popular remarks and clarified it many times. as he got older and that fight with Prost waned out through the early 90s, I think he re-discovered the joy of a long career and he always talked about protecting your car and race with more calculation. his driving changed after the 91 season. it's so heart braking to have his career cut short i would give anything to see what he would have continued on to keep on achieving.

@bradster1708 4 года назад

CrankyYankeeF1, excellent comment. I have enormous respect for Ayrton, not just as one of the most talented drivers of all time but also as a person with an enormous depth of character. I also think that referring to him as God could be seen as disrespectful to a man who was deeply Christian so I withdraw my comment. I too would have loved to have seen his progression as a driver as he grew older and also how he would have grown as a man. I also like that he shared his fortune with fellow Brazilians in need.

@dylandickeson2929 4 года назад

@@bradster1708 the 1 the only

@mr.labman5967 4 года назад

@Dylan Dickeson , Do You know HIM, are you walkiing with Jesus and the Holy Ghost? For sure it wasn’t God! Maybe Satan!

@nojoojuu 4 года назад

This opens a lot of questions but closes a lot of them too. Thanks!

@alexrobertssings 4 года назад

I don't think Alonso knew exactly what was going to happen. He was probably told the team had some kind of trick to win or maximise the points but I the full extent would be kept from him to maintain some plausible deniability.

@dadvader6197 4 года назад

you're quite naive arent ya ? Alonzo has been involved in way too many of thoses stories to be clean in my eyes. crashgate, spygate, his lobby control, his goals and supicious wins in other categories.....

@lewisteo9761 4 года назад

You chose to believe your idol is innocent, don't you? FIA should know his involvement, it is just that FIA tried to keep a good name for Cheatlonso in favour of his large base of fans. By right, Cheatlonso should be banned from F1 too

@eric11 4 года назад

@@lewisteo9761 you are too salty so shut up

@marshallpeters1437 4 года назад

@@eric11 he is a little yes but to act like alonso didn't cheat is also salty. The man cheated numerous times. And tbh he probably should have everything taken from him.

@eric11 4 года назад

@@marshallpeters1437 i think not

@OttScott 3 года назад

Thanks for explaining it. As a new fan, I've heard of it, but never been explained. Excellent synopsis as always.

@CYMotorsport 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it Scott!

@WeaponsGG 4 года назад

The quality of production in this video alone warrants a subscribe.

@nilsjohnsson1918 4 года назад

5:33 Is Rosbergs strategy over?

@unclecreepy4073 4 года назад

I always thought the purpose of a “teammate” in auto racing was so one guy could be the fall guy to let the champ win. “Oh, gee, if only there was a caution flag right now, the champ could win this thing. Gary, you’re up,”

@Marceloloeite 4 года назад

All I can do is wonder how many other fixes went unnoticed before (and maybe after) this event. Keep in mind, it's not always internal, it can be done between teams as well

@Hero_Of_Old 3 года назад

Yeah its sad

@PauluzP Год назад

Like how timo glock let hamilton through to take massa wdc. Supposedly got paid for it

@almondcherie 4 года назад

So glad I’ve found your channel! Love how in depth and thoroughly explained your videos are

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

thanks Amy! slowly but surely it's finding newer pockets. they'll keep improving as well. thank you for the feedback and let me know if there's ever anything you catch

@CAPTDILLIGAF Год назад

This is why Alonso wouldn’t question an aggressive strategy. The nature of the course would make it very clear that there would be a high probability of a safety car at once in the race. Therefore, Alonso might see the pit call as gambling on such an occurrence. After Piquet crashed, he probably was suspicious but what was done was done and he just needed to get on with racing.

@justinsmith7416 4 года назад

I love your content! I just “discovered” F1, literally yesterday, and I’ve been watching all your videos!

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Glad you like it Justin :)

@aliciakaffen3678 4 года назад

Justin Smith me ever since the MLB season got delayed

@justinsmith7416 4 года назад

Alicia Kaffen F1 is way better than any American sport

@aliciakaffen3678 4 года назад

Justin Smith I was raised on baseball, football, and basketball so I will agree that F1 is fun but it can’t beat out what’s in my blood

@justinsmith7416 4 года назад

Alicia Kaffen ahhhh, I was raised on football and hockey, my dad is a big penn state, Steelers, and Penguins fan. Personally I think F1 is more interesting and entertaining than football and hockey lol :)

@markoboksic2238 4 года назад

that Rosberg flames image

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

had to haha

@yajursharma753 4 года назад

This is the most underrated channel on RU-vid! Why did I not know about this channel before?

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

all that matters is you are here now :)

@mikailartiel5538 4 года назад

Great video ! Nice animation at 5:53 (his face after Brazil 2012 would have been fun haha)

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Mikail Artiel I felt cheap making it the core emotion of a video after relying on it so much for my 2012 royal rumble video but to this day it’s one of my favorite pure, raw reactions from a driver. It’s like he was looking through the camera haha That and Lando’s F bomb this year after his car failed kn the final lap hahah

@mikailartiel5538 4 года назад

@@CYMotorsport He was about to be 5th too... Poor Lando. And for Alonso, NEVER has a stare pierced me so deeply...

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Mikail Artiel I knew I put it in some trailer some where it was driving me nuts - 0:45 . ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BXFNwdijbgo.html DIABOLICAL

@benediktotto6191 4 года назад

Just 2 weeks ago I didn't know anything about F1 and I didn't care about that sport at all. 'Drive to Survive' and your channel changed that completely. Thank you for your great content and keep it up please!

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

thanks for passing that along benedikt :) that's awesome to hear!

@TheJokerit19 3 месяца назад

I'm back after Briatore's Team Enstone return in an advisory role became formal. Perhaps Alpine can win a race this year, after all.

@McLMP4-22 2 месяца назад

Singapore GP this year is on the 22nd of September, so mark your calendars.

@tristanshaw2599 4 года назад

I think it’s fair to assume that in Alonso’s mind the strategy was a dice roll in the hopes of a safety car in general (it is a street circuit after all). He had nothing to lose given his grid position.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

This is fair. I had something similar to the effect on a post it note through out the creation of this . It’s important to not condemn him for what I don’t know. What kept me from being more direct with Nando here was that construct precisely. I think it’s entirely possible he didn’t ask more but cynically bc he knew something was up. That’s speculation and not fair to put into the video. But to your point, no need to question the strategy considering he had nothing to lose. In reality I think it was a little more than that but I don’t think anyone checked with him first. I think he was told the strategy and somehow it was alluded it was all handled. But in my heart of hearts I don’t think Flavio or Pat said outright here’s what we’re doing. But that’s where my struggle with Alonso comes in. While it may not be the most damning argument on its face, if he worked out this was going to happen, he could have been an Incredibly central role is saving a young rookies careers who was warped by fear of losing his job and power of his bosses. Pique wasn’t the victim. But it’s easy to manipulate from power. But your comment is a fair one

@bigbaderek1978 4 года назад

Best one yet man keep them coming this is great stuff

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

dude never EVER let me do a custom animated timeline again. good freaking god. only way to tell the story though due to how many things everyone was trying to sneak in against the other. thanks for checking it out so fast and letting me know your thoughts!

@codyhillson1612 3 года назад

This is what people mean when they say the quality of some youtube channels is starting to rival network TV... good work man

@SuperMafia864 4 года назад

I still fear that the scenario of this GP might repeat one day. Back then because of the SC rule which forbidded refueling until the cars were packed behind the SC, the drivers who had already pitted had huge advantage over those who hadn't. Nowadays we have the opposite problem. Because of those delta times after activating the SC or the VSC which force the drivers on track to drive at slug speed, those who hadn't pitted yet can spare almost half minute. On few occasions it decided the outcome of the race - Australia 2018, Baku 2018 (almost), Sochi 2019… Plus because of paranoid race directors there is no need of a crashed car, just a car parked in a "right" place.

@shortscouture1 2 года назад

it happened with the 2021 abu dhabi gp

@SiVlog1989 4 года назад

Given his conduct in helping implicate McLaren in the Spygate scandal, I've always been suspicious of Alonso's involvement in the Crashgate matter. The fact is that drivers are as much in the loop about their plans for the strategy. Alonso must have known something about the plan as they decided to put in just 12 laps of fuel into the car for the first stint

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

SiVlog he just doesn’t seem like the guy to not ask/ care ya know

@dizzyduck44 2 года назад

This has always bugged me. The guy was implicated in 2 major scandals in F1. His behaviour in Hungary 2007 shows how petty and ruthless he can be (I believe that has not changed as in 2017 he impeded Lando Norris is an FP1 as not to have the embarrassment of the teams test driver be faster than you). I can’t believe he didn’t know. Rumour is that he threatened to take spygate to the FIA himself, forcing Ron Dennis to fess up. How could someone capable of all that NOT know or question what was going on.

@Thundus201 2 года назад

It is just the el plan

@TheTradesmanLU2001 4 года назад

I’m proud to say a fellow American is making some excellent F1 content . Keep it up , my man . 👍🏻. Hearing the British accent on most content has been the norm . I’m happy to know that the brits don’t have a lock on this type of content. If I could articulate as well as you do I would consider doing a MotoGP channel. However, I doubt I could hide my favoritism towards a particular, older rider 😉

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

what's stopping you mate? do it. one of the coolest things about this journey is I hear that from so many who see my channel numbers and my videos get hundreds of thousands of views not realizing I literally said those same things and you CAN DO THIS. I started five months ago with no plan and this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-amwodIb0m0g.html . Telll me how I was qualified hahaha it's a horrible video but you gotta start somewhere and then intensely listen to your audience to grow. I knew nothing about telling motorsport stories or how to understand audience attention and build this. I've learned just analyzing the data and engaging with every single person I can. the real gift has been truly building an audience that has a massive voice and know the matter a great deal to me. I've saying that ever since i had 150 subs. I'm sure long time will read this and chuckle because I was stuck at 200 just 3 weeks ago hahaha. but it's as true now as it will be when I hit 100,000 and beyond. But if I can do anything, let me encourage you that if that was a real idea you had, do it! I'll be your first sub.

@TheTradesmanLU2001 4 года назад

CrankyYankeeF1 I appreciate you’re encouragement. I suppose I will never know if I could have done it unless I try. I will take your advice and seriously consider it as a possibility. Thank you .

@silverdarlin 4 года назад

TheTradesmen lets be honest, the certain older rider is basically royalty. Very few people dislike him... Most F1 channels get away with murder when they're talking about Senna or the Michael

@TheTradesmanLU2001 4 года назад

Silverdarlin Good point 👍🏻

@zerg9523 4 года назад

I don’t follow F1, but i like documentaries, this qualifies for both... I hope to see more like this, subbed! Really good work.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Zerg F1 certainly isn’t always this entertaining but I’ll do my best to make it so haha welcome friend!

@Susannah21 4 года назад

IMHO Alonso knew what was going to happen. And despite his great driving abilities I think ultimately he will be known as the driver at the center of two dark times in f1. I am a lomg time fan of f1 watching it at the lunch table on sundays and seriously this two “ gates “ drove me off the sport for a number of years. Really love your videos. You have and amazing voice for narrating.

@GloomGaiGar 4 года назад

really? if anything it lured me in, you need drama on and off the track

@kosmosyche 4 года назад

I hope he knew.

@cleetusboon 4 года назад

There's one piece of the puzzle you missed - Hockenheim 2008

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

It would unfairly connect an event loosely to motive - atleast insinuate the strategy came as a result of an accidental occurrence. I can’t do that. But surely that’s what fueled this. It works. They just needed the full SC

@cleetusboon 4 года назад

@@CYMotorsport Yeah fair point. I actually remember the day after watching Hockenheim 2008, telling a friend that I had figured out how to manufacture an F1 victory. I never thought they'd actually do it only a few months later. I can see it happening again but it would more likely to be kept between two teammates or perhaps just one driver doing it of his own accord.

@ashleysaini3694 4 года назад

Fantastic history of F1. Lots of speculation and makes me again question these tactics F1 teams consciously decide upon to give them an "edge". Keep up the great work!

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

glad you enjoyed Insaini!

@grungyflannel 3 года назад

CYs voice booming through my trucks speakers is amazing!

@rudolfhuijs4526 4 года назад

Great content CYF1. As for Alonso knowing something about it, it's hard to say, but we can look at body language after the race an we can have some clues. What disturbs me is that Pat Symmonds is back, not only in F1, but in the FIA itself!! How come a guy involved in that matter lands a job in the racing governing body. That's when F1 credibility doesn't make sense. Thanks for going deep into a dark hour in F1 that almost nobody seemed to care at the time. A karma thing hangs over Renault and there they are fighting in the middle field. Justice.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

YOU HAVE NO IDEA how much his return to the FIA got under my skin. and also the recent Renault illegal brake assist in 2019. just little stories here and there. maybe it's endemic among a sport with technical loopholes but Renault rubs me the wrong way at times. thanks for the feedback as ever. I love making this stuff for you guys

@rudolfhuijs4526 4 года назад

CrankyYankeeF1 Happy New Year man! Shall your plans and dreams come to reality. Keep up the good work and let's hope the wait until March is bearable. 🍾

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Rudolf Huijs you the same! I’ll do my best to make it bearable haha

@mojar2680 4 года назад

You should have your own pre/post race show, the quality is insane!

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

I essentially do! the more you all give feedback, the more I can grow. I'm getting closer to doing a prediction show and post-race. by next season it'll be a laughably large production haha only bc it'll just be me. and being independent i can say whatever I want which is nice

@blvckninja 4 года назад

Great video! I think Alonso knew what was happening. I think the big 'inspiration' of Piquet's crash begun at that year's GP at Germany. Piquet, who had a quite bad rookie season so far, started way down the field. However he started the race with low fuel (obviously to pass, as it is much easier to pass at Hockenheim), and therefore also pitted quite early. Just after he pitted, someone crashed heavily and safety car was deployed. Well, due to every other teams being caught out of the safety car, Piquet was suddenly leading the race! Even though someone passed him at the latter stage of the race, Piquet managed to get a surprise second place. I think that if Briatore and Simmonds were inspired by this race, why shouldn't Alonso know this plan.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

It was the ultimate case study for them to copy. agreed.

@Flashback007 4 года назад

Don't forget that the FIA-case contained a mysterious witness whose identity has always been kept secret. A lot of people think this witness probably is Alonso.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Flashback007 I think it was Alan Permane though it’s never been fully proven. Either way, yeah witness x buried him!

@Luckyjasondrum 4 года назад

Alonso definitely knew. There is no way a guy with that much experience and control over his strategy didn’t know about it.

@DeathclawsTheDragon2003 3 месяца назад

Massa is now suing the FIA for the 2008 Championship. That head injury in 2009 really messed him up man..... You can't change what has been done, we can only move on!

@gseric4721 4 года назад

Great vid, I've never really known the depth of this scandal.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Gseric47 it goes further but thank you ! I try to manage the story and bringing you along with adequate depth while not bogging you down. Much more to come!

@DonWan47 2 года назад

I must’ve watched a dozen videos about crashgate but it never gets old. It’s a seminal and infamous moment in F1 history. Good video.

@fetacheese5282 4 года назад

My favorite controversial story in f1! Thank you for making a video about this !

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

was a fun one! complicated though - much more than i remembered. never doing an interactive timeline ever again haha but def was fun and unique. idk about worth the week i guess we'll see how the video does haha. thankful you found it and enjoyed. appreciate your feedback!

@chazzahd9277 4 года назад

Congrats on 10k man, really happy for you

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

thanks mate. still behind pace for the goal by australia but all I can do is try to somehow maintain the output until I fall apart haha. Your Renault content today is really solid now I don't even have to make it and will just push people to you when it's requested

@chazzahd9277 4 года назад

Lol thank you for that and also nice to see you ambitious with your goals, keep pushing!

@TheKitchenMoFo 4 года назад

ohhh, little Fernando probably knew very well

@Boy10Dio 4 года назад

alonso knew about the fix being in, but he did not expect the team to actually do it. so like picture this team meeting anybody says: "hey we should fix the race by pulling out the safety car for a crash after the anderson bridge." alonso : "no guys i don't fix races, i am leaving this meeting, do whatever you want" and then the thing happened around him, he had a very strange air about him after the race while being interviewed so he knew the thing was on the cards but he did not expect it to actually be pulled. likely convinced himself at the time it was just piquet having a legitimate accident but knew that it would become a strange piece of history as time went on. technically he was ignorant of it, but that's only ignorance in so far as not knowing if the team is actually going to do it or not.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

I think it goes even further but I like how you laid it out!

@f1knowledgeuk569 3 года назад

I see why alonso hates Hamilton!!!!! He cheated and ended up helping him secure his first Title

@thewarlock539 3 года назад

Loooooool what a joker🤣🤣🤣🤣

@ximbabwe0228 4 года назад

Great video, your image of the track and the Alonso head flying around was the perfect explanation

@bassmunk 4 года назад

Alonso definitely must have suspected something was up when he saw that it was his teammate who crashed, but as the hardcore competitor he is, knew that it was best to not ask questions (so he can't be responsible for anything), and just take the gift given him. Yes he must have suspected, but that means he's also smart enough not to bring it up and ruin it...

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

oh for sure. Alonso is as vocal driver as any we've seen. there's ZERO way he was told to start from 15th low fuel AND to pit on lap 12 without asking a question or getting just enough assurance that there was a plan. I just picture him putting his hands up as Flavio explains plugs his ears and says "I don't need to hear this I'm walking out!" haha. plausible deniability is a powerful weapon to the skilled operative

@bassmunk 4 года назад

@@CYMotorsport hahaha Yup. He's in the elite group of drivers with Senna, Schumacher, Hamilton, Hakkinen etc... Greatly inteligent drivers who know very well the implications of their actions. He knows how to hide his intentions, like holding up Hamilton in qualifying the year before... He knows what's up.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

BassMunk he did the same thing with the gear box at the US GP in 2012. Weirdly I’m pretty firmly against how they treated massa there it’s a principle thing but he handled just well enough to escape investigation. The art is lost on younger drivers I made a freaking 40 minute video on the Japan GP from 2019 and all the shite Ferrari did sketchy no one talked about but mysteriously it was taken down with no explanation and I was given a full blown strike. Still not letting it go of that- keep an eye out for it I’d love to hear what you think but it’ll be a few weeks as I’ll have to open official legal action to lift it. There’s a reason someone doesn’t want it seen and I want more people to watch it as I think I was on to something

@bassmunk 4 года назад

@@CYMotorsport I can't remember anything that happened in Japan... Crazy lol I'll have to do some homework on both of those 🤔 I hope to see your video tho. I'll be very interested

@heinz-haraldfrentzen1261 4 года назад

My biggest complaint is that Fernando was allowed to keep the win. That should be Nico Rosberg's 1st win

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Kevin Cowell I’ll never understand it. Do you remove all points and abandon the GP results or just Alonso’s? Piquet’s wreck changed the entire race. kubica and Rosberg would have never been served their penalties, to your point

@Conservator. 4 года назад

I’m impressed by the quality of your work. Thank you! In my mind it’s not possible that Alonso didn’t know that Picquet was going to crash. And I don’t think he objected against the plan but we’ll probably never know. Ps great background music, most appropriate.

@sicmic 4 года назад

Fantastic video. Very well done and such a thorough job. I personally believe Alonso didn't know about the plan. Of course, like most people, I'm only making my best guess.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

thank you for the feedback! yeah alonso has plausible deniability and is still clear which I support 100% as it's unfair to sling accusations without evidence so I won't and think your position is wise. i think it would be hard for him to not know similar to massa's gear box seal break in 2012 but I can't find anything linking. rest assured, I'll still search haha.

@sombra00 4 года назад

Alonso always played dirty. No doubt in my mind that he knew.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

even a week later Im trying to be open but no one has presented evidence to suggest he would have no clue SOMETHING was up. so I have to agree with you.

@christycullen2355 4 года назад

Considering what he got up to in McLaren he was definitely in on it, he's just an all round shady guy

@naveenbattula 4 года назад

@@orioltg1234 knowing what he did with McLaren, he no longer has the benefit of the doubt

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Then why do you keep commenting complaint? I say all this. Did you shut the video off? I prefer you go watch other channels if you rage comment before finishing. Sounds good to me! Best wishes!

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Maybe I wasn’t clear. I’m not asking for your view. In fact, I’m asking you to move along. You failed to quote the times where I say SPECIFICALLY IN THE VIDEO WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE. So you’re coming at me like that for no reason. I love your desperate attempt to position the conversation that if “someone disagrees with me” lol. If you knew anything about this channel before going on and on, youd know how ironic that is to say. I adapt weekly to the criticism I ask for so consistently. I prefer people disagree but I ask it be done in constructive, intelligent fashion. You claim you watched the video but then somehow managed to miss I say openly multiple times we have no evidence of his involvement and therefore can’t touch on his guilt. I get millions of views a month. This along with a couple other videos I have to get legal clarification on bc this would be grounds for libel. So if you’d like me to say it again I will: I prefer not to have an audience of people with vindictive tendencies. You clearly have an agenda. Your entire premise is built on not condemning him and how I’ve failed to say that yet I comment on that. So if you choose to purposefully ignore it bc you like Alonso and you can’t admit your rage commented without fully considering I was going to actually engage that’s cool. No problems. I have dozens of really good constructive conversations a day. And sometimes people are this stubborn and they aren’t so good but you’re just passionate about racing let’s say. Sounds good to me. Just move along I can do nothing more for you especially when you won’t acknowledge the facts if they it against your agenda. Just move along

@Th-vy8ut 6 месяцев назад

Massa would be F1 champion in 2008. Fact!

@gasparov32 4 года назад

you forgot to mention that Alonso won the race after sgp

@liam_-wb5pk 3 года назад

Did he

@chakalaka3960 3 года назад

@@liam_-wb5pk in Japan yeah

@WeekendWarrior92 4 года назад

I really like the new format and storytelling! Keep up the good work!

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Thanks Adrian - I'm trying to figure out how to keep formulating it. how to adapt story telling into more of current events. I'll be making a video here soon testing. dont think it's going to go well haha but that's how we learn I suppose. your feedback is invaluable though so thank you very much

@dingking7577 4 года назад

Damn Crank this vid already has 45k+ views. Nice!!

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

DingKing 75 I know right I’m stoked mate I’m really pushing on the back end to feed the algorithm. My American affiliation is crippling my watch to sub ratio. I’m starting to think people think I just write stories and scripts but no race coverage which is about as far from the truth as possible haha thanks for the comment hoping we can get 100k by New Year’s Day !

@jeffbock2793 4 года назад

I'm so glad you did this mini doc. Ive seen several others, but you did such a great job of putting the pieces together, and made me think, for the first time, if Fernando knew before hand. I never knew about the light fuel load or the very precise sequence of events. I think the real question is, how would it be possible for all this to happen, and Fernando be in the dark? But in a way, isn't that part of the allure of F1, the team aspect? I may be speaking out turn, because I really don't know, but I don''t think a NASCAR or Indy driver or team would never purposely crash to benefit the team.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Jeff Bock I found myself standing in front of my white board trying desperately to map out how a light fuel load that wouldn’t last more than 12 or so laps would be smart if you struggled to make up only 4 spots. nico’s decision from P9 makes perfect sense to start on sifts. But then why would Alonso stop first? If the experiment failed, you’d stretch your option tyres I’d think. But he put on hard tyres at that pit.. why not run the softs into the dirt for an overcut if the experiment failed? I can’t prove he knew I can’t make out some of the radio or link anything so I won’t say something unfair. But there are a large amount of questions left now. I tried to be hands off in the presentation this time. I approach Alonso content carefully. I Respect his legacy and his fans and I’d rather someone view with an Open mind than if I were to hint at things. Thank you for the feedback. Also, check out the 2013 Federated Autoparts nascar race. Weirdly similar. I believe it was handled appropriately for the most part regarding precedent

@jeffbock2793 4 года назад

@@CYMotorsport in a vacuum you might be able to say Alonzo didn't know. I raced off road in the 80's and early 90's, in SCORE and HDRA (Baja 500/1000, Mint 400 etc) and you know the saying, "if you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough". Everyone cheated in off road (Robby Gordon was the worst). I think Fernando is awesome and hopes he comes back, but I also think he had to know, and that doesn't diminish my opinion of him one but. A reporter asked him if he'd give the title back, after everything came to light and he said NO! As long as there's sport there will be cheating: steroids, deflating footballs, blackmailing umpires, paying off refs, home court time keepers, and we won't even get into boxing. F1 has cheating scandals every year, not to mention spygate. I just look at it as part of the game, because you're ever going to get rid of it. BUT ITS ALWAYS FUN AS HELL TO LOOK AT

@TheJanvicgwaps 4 года назад

5:34 Rosberg.. Oh my god hahahahahaha

@Axel-153 4 года назад

Clean dude. Very well done

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

AVP • appreciate the feedback AVP - looking forward to making more :)

@conandrade 4 года назад

Sorry to say. But it`s not important whether if Alonso knew or not (he didn't have to, in order to make the plan work, that's a fact - and Piquet could have easily inserted him in the wrong seat, legally speaking). What's really important is to actually KNOW that, this race was indeed manipulated (this is the big Why?). Therefore, is totally evident, imho, that all points from this race should have been dismissed. That would have been fair to the drivers, the spectators, the championship, etc. But no... why? Even Alonso didn't lose his points! It is not a matter of who are you cheering for in the end of this discussion. Another thing that claimed my attention was Mosley's attempt to back Pat Simmons up (not the Italian Briatore!). In the end... the only thing that all these actions helped, was Lewis's title and ING to terminate a huge sponsor agreement (bear in mind... the financial crash of 2008... what do you think was happening?). It's important, also, to remind you guys, that Renault was too, in the middle of the Stepney-gate, one year earlier. So... one can imagine how politics were inside FIA, on that era.

@conandrade 4 года назад

Not only in that era... you see... Mercedes won 2009 (double-deck diffuser, anyone?) and set the rules for 2014. Now, you deal with that. hehe

@conandrade 4 года назад

@Richard McCaig I think it's fair to think the way you do (and several of my friends). But i think the result of the whole race/championship is much³ more important (to me) than to judge whether if Alonso is or isn't guilty of anything. To me, it's pretty clear that the plan & order came from above, due to a pressure (that was what i wanted to see in this video!) unknown to us against Renault's F1 team bosses. It is that backstage that i would like to see discussed. All FIA relationship with the sponsors and those in charge of the main teams.

@creativecat2763 4 года назад

Richard McCaig Alonso knowing doesnt make him a cheater

@bradster1708 4 года назад

This was an excellent video. I did not know much about this particular incident, not an avid F1 fan. This was most certainly worth watching, I learned much from this. I hope you keep making this type of video, the quality was top notch.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Thanks Brad! Yep it'll be the focus until the season starts. then I'll be knee deep in race reporting. you should check out the other stories. They are interesting even if you aren't too deep into Formula 1! let me know your feedback if you get bored and need something to watch haha

@blackmondayy1 3 года назад

So Briatore knew what was going to happen, Pat Symons also knew what was going to happen, Piquet JR also knew what was going to happen .... but Alonso who was supposed to win and all this was orchestrated around him actually didn't have one clue and didn't know ?!?!?!? AHAHAHAAHHAHAHA

@marcas8269 3 года назад

There are no proofs to prove that, just hypothesis like yours

@kevinhekers2380 4 года назад

Alonso had to know something was up but great video and a merry chrismas and a happy new year

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

had to, but I can't seem to prove it either haha no matter how hard I tried the last week. you too brother! thanks as always for your feedback and support. going to be a big 2020 for us and am thankful in 2019 for the support shown to me when RU-vid wouldn't give me the time of day and I'm usually written off before a video is watched bc I make it clear i'm American.

@kevinhekers2380 4 года назад

@@CYMotorsport yeah i think where in for a great 2020 f1 and f2 season the redbull juniors wanting to prove them selfs to marko the ferrari young drivers they all could claim that alfa romeo seat in f1 redbull and ferrari trying to break mercedes domination and maybe mclaren or renault getting it right and fighting for the odd podium

@selaud3229 4 года назад

@@CYMotorsport I don't think so tho. It doesnt make sense. Renault needed to convince alonso to stay promising him that he would be able to fight for the championship in 2009. So in order to secure that they came up with this trick of their own. With this win and the Japanese gp win alonso stayed at Renault instead of signing with redbull or brawn gp for a 1 year contract for the 2009 season.

@Boom12 4 года назад

I watched that race...and the story was a bombshell. Being from Singapore, I thought this would be the end of the SG GP when it only just started. What a shame what Renault did. It left a bad taste in my mouth. Incredible work with the content here.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

was there ever talks the local authorities would pursue reckless endangerment? I was always shocked they didn't after it came out it was on purpose. thank you for the feedback. I can't do this without so I appreciate you

@superIuminaI 4 года назад

Excellent narrative, editing and production.... really top notch And from a relatively new F1 fan, an eye-opener into the past

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Superluminal glad you enjoyed it! As a newer fan, are there any standing concepts that arent ever fully explained and it’s just assumed you should know ? I’m really wanting to do a series of short 3-5 minute videos for newer fans.

@superIuminaI 4 года назад

@@CYMotorsport Very much enjoyed it : ) Maybe something like a video explaining pit strategy, or what the flags mean, or high downforce (Red Bull) vs straightline speed (Ferrari) cars

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Superluminal good ideas! That just gave me some really Cool ideas thanks for the input . Don’t be surprised if within a couple videos I do something like that haha

@superIuminaI 4 года назад

@@CYMotorsport Awesome! Looking forward to it : ) with this level of dedication to the video editing, and interaction with the comments - yep, Subbed : )

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

@@superIuminaI well I'm glad! eventually over time with consistent content I know the subs will come. just growing in the off-season i know doesn't yield subs bc these are just nice stories. you have no way to know if I'll do in race coverage. REALLY excited for how I do all that. If you follow the races, I promise you're not going to regret being here :)

@kakadudl6869 4 года назад

Of course Alonso knew what was up. But like you said, he's only human and he looks good too. I like him.

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

as a cynic, I assume this stuff goes on constantly. it would take it over the line even in my eyes if Alonso expressed he wanted him to wreck. that's a new level of savage. but hey, I have zero evidence so I can't accuse !

@blameTheDane 4 года назад

He looks good? So thats make it okay? Isn't F1 too complicated for a blondie like you?

@kakadudl6869 4 года назад

@@blameTheDane Somebody is jealous of my amazingly blond curly hair.

@blameTheDane 4 года назад

@@kakadudl6869 No. But damn, your shallow and superficial.. But just to be clear.. No one cares about your hair, you are on the internet you dummy. I'm just glad i'm not running around with a brain like yours.. Thank you - whoever made me.

@kakadudl6869 4 года назад

@@blameTheDane Honestly, did you change your profile picture just to make the first coment?

@Ronkde 4 года назад

I never watch F1 races but I like great videos like this 🤗

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

Much more on the way! You can just watch my recaps haha

@carlosandrescastromedina3100 3 года назад

Alonso clearly knew, we all now that

@sushantburnawal3670 4 года назад

You are one of the best storytellers, dude ..........keep it up

@CYMotorsport 4 года назад

I’ll do my best! Thanks for the encouragement

@Insoma Год назад

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!

@windshieldwasher6919 3 года назад

Super dope project man, first video I've checked out from you and you earned a sub, I'm also a new fan to f1 and going back and learning the history has been one of the most fascinating car related area I've come across. Btw idk if this is weird, but what ethnicity are you? I imagine you to be mixed but I'm oddly curious.

@CYMotorsport 3 года назад

its usually not weird bc I can always tell when people are genuinely curious haha as you seem. I'm split down the middle like Hamilton. glad you liked the video! I try to improve in critical ways each video so while I LOVE this one and look back on it fondly not was my first attempt to play with fluid motion. I've gotten 10x better haha I'm posting here in the next 3 hours a project that blows this one out of the water. welcome!