I mean that wouldve made him a more motivated villain imo because at first i wasnt really convinced he hated miles this much unless the world saw him as a joke and he realises this is all miles fault
I mean look at him. Hes an whitest male with no facial features and having full of dots all over his body like netherland milk cow. Hes the equivalent of DC polkadot man
It definitely would’ve!! But I can kind of see why they left it out mostly because they didn’t necessarily need it, and they probably didn’t want to spoil just how strong he gets. Or they would feel like the film would be to long or they just really really wanted the cliff hanger ending because it’s really cool and rarely done.
I completely agree. Imagine Beyond the Spider-Verse begins with Spot at the bar getting humiliated and then it cuts to him returning destroying it, then cuts to intro. Would be peak
Na, that wouldn't work in beyond the spider-verse. Since spot has already gotten extremely powerful so no villain would want to mess with him and be rude to him.
@@Shadowly1 I'm pretty sure OP means like a flashback of him going there before, and then a cut to the present where he now destroyes everything and everyone there
Probably no, as we are shown he unlocks his transdimensional powers after the "fall", and then continues to power up at exceedingly fast rate while being kept track on by Miguel and the Elite spidy-squad. He jumps in a matter of seconds to minutes, then he's gone, only to come back.
The Spot is one of those villains you can’t help but admire. Went from the biggest pushover to the biggest threat of the multiverse in a matter of minutes.
@@jebunchoudhury7127 I don't know the time stamps in the movie but in this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cyzhJzs4hEE.html its at around 6:07-6:17 at the bottom left corner
the whole movie felt weird for the pacing. every second of the movie was amazing but the story beats didn't really follow the traditional movie format.. in a way it kinda felt episodic, and the movie was like a mid season break.
@My Weird Second Channel With A Pretty Long Name not necessarily. it's a criticism of the movie that there's no resolution to anything. infinity war ended on a cliffhanger but nobody was upset because it had resolution whilst being open. across has no resolution and is completely open, its so open that my friend refused to give his thoughts on it because he felt that I was half a movie, and he'd tell me when the latter half came out. there isn't a huge climactic end either, no big battle or anything, I'm assuming it'll come next movie. don't get me wrong, the movie is still incredible, and I dont agree with those people that are so angry calling it a shit ending. it's just a small flaw that they build up all this amazing tension and then end it. I expected a huge cliffhanger so maybe that's why I'm not upset, but I'm sticking to my guns. for the last 20 minutes I was guessing when the movie would end - when gwen went through that portal, when Miguel came through his own portal, etc etc. I also do t like those people saying it ended just like a comic book would as a defense. its not a comic book, we can't do things like that in movies. across gets a pass because the rest of the movie was so good but if it wasn't, the ending would've been so much worse for it.
@@blue-vr8dd nah cliffhanger endings are good....and nobody complained about infinity war because mcu riders and most people already knew about end game but in this case half the people who probably don't even know who spider man 2099 is went to see the movie just for the hype and when they didn't get an ending they returned home and started crying to their mother because they don't know when the next one's going to release
I think they needed that post credit scene. the spot literally dissappears completely halfway through the movie, that scene would have made him feel more present
Nah that wouldnt have contributed much, the entire end part of the movie is based on him, a 3 minute post credit scene wouldnt have contributed much, also a post credit scene would also kinda ruin the omninous vibe they gave at the end where we are stuck not knowing anything about what could possibly happen next
To be honest I felt really bad for The Spot. He's bad and all sure, but imagine what it'd be like to be ridiculed for something you have no control over. And to make things worse, the person who The Spot sees as responsible for his transformation is sung with words of praise by basically everyone. I fully empathize with The Spot, and honestly I just hope that he can be put out of his misery in the next movie
@@whatno3145 Narcissism means you’re more self-centered than the average person, and is a mental disorder. Meanwhile the Spot has no self left to center, he’s just trying to make Miles feel how he felt In other words it’s less of a “I’m finally gonna be better than you” and more of a “You fucked my life so now I’m gonna fuck yours even harder” Eye-for-an-eye and all that
@@OffbrandDTraveler The Spot wants respect. He wants respect from Miles, from everyone. Sure he lost his family, but he could've gotten a great job with his power. He's a narcissist who was left in a shitty situation. Though I'd argue he's more lesser since in the beginning he didn't seem like a bad dude.
The thing is, just about every hit to his ego was about how he wasn't even "Villain of the Week" tier. He had this ego about how he saw himself as the nemesis to Miles and Miles never bought into it and his anger was driven by that. It's the mentality of a stalker to demand their subject recognize and respect their relationship when the other feels no emotional connection. Yes, there's some items about him that are worth pity. His introduction shows that he's doing petty crime because of discrimination of a condition he cannot control. Yes, there's a few times that people commented on that condition that would not be kosher. But most of it, most of his rage, was for an entitlement ego and his driving motivation - to gain more power, to be powerful enough to be taken seriously - is in service to that ego.
I think they didn't just in case they need to bring Miles back to the cinema for money, cause if the Spot destroys every single villain there, what would remain?
This is pretty long, but it’s what I came up with. It’s like 4-5 mins in my head 😅😂 @@rjai5003 Agreed. In the first scene, I’d have him walk in and(the Sinister Six would be really cool for this) a group of villains come up to him to bully him and talk about how he’s a joke, villain of the week, and so on. Then they start getting physical. He accidentally manages to avoid their first few hits by use of his holes(maybe even throw a few “sorry!”s in there to show weakness), but eventually they beat him up and toss him out of the bar, laughing and threatening to do far worse if he dared to come back. In the second scene, he’s now in his more powerful, leveled-up form. He waltzes in like he owns the place. Maybe he uses his holes to steal some food. People notice, get quiet, and glare at him as he passes by but he pays them no mind. He gets to the front bar(where customers order food and drinks and the bartenders serve them) and he orders a drink. By now the whole bar is quiet(because he’s passed halfway/a third-way through the bar and people usually get quiet when their surroundings get quiet) and the bartender just stands there. His jaw is clenched and he’s glaring at Spot while he cleans a glass with a rag, clearly refusing to serve him. The group from before walks up to him, somewhat shocked but mostly angry he actually came back. They make a few jokes about his color change, and he makes a remark in return. This causes them to start swinging. However, since he’s mostly holes now, their attacks go right through him(maybe it comes out somewhere else on him or maybe it hits them back from a separate hole). He catches a fist and says something about how they don’t get to “boss him around” or “talk to/treat him like that” anymore. He fights back, but not too expertly. He dodges and catches their hits but it looks somewhat sloppy. Most of his avoidance from their attacks is due to his holes(and his control of them) and not his fighting skill. The group can’t be beat so easily, however, which leads him to unleash his power and he suspends them in the air. He gets mad, and one way or another(destroying supports? Flinging someone big into the walls?) he brings the place crashing down with everyone inside. The bar is destroyed. He takes the drink he ordered from the bar himself, and walks out as he sips it. Maybe one last remark; the kind of clever wordplay a Spider-Man villain would use. He disappears through a portal/hole, leaving them under rubble, moaning and groaning because of their injuries, but no one dead due to their powers and his lack of desire to kill(yet).
Fun fact: when Miguel was watching the video of himself in another universe, there was another video which showed that exact deleted scene of spot getting made fun of at the bar
Okay i could be wrong but there might be a clip from the bar scene in the movie, technically. I’ve been going insane about this movie a little so i’ve gone back and watched it a total of 3 times now. I noticed last time that in the scene with Miguel looking at all his little holographic screens, one of them shows a clip of the spot that we didn’t actually see in the movie. It looked kind of like a bar i think? I don’t remember seeing any other villains though, just him using his powers
@@user-nd3qj3py1b He probably doesn't have any variants. He was created by the super-collider being destroyed, and as far as we know that would've only happened in miles' dimension, and not in any others.
removing those scenes highlights a Miles and Spot rivalry. its good they took it out. it would also kinda undermine every spiderman villain he faces if he did that, any future threats are meaningless cos Spot wiped the floor with them and Miles will likely beat Spot in the next movie. if he doesn't, then that would be pretty cool and interesting. maybe it takes a lot more spidermen to beat Spot after he kills Miles' dad, maybe his mum. he could even kill Gwen which I think is fairly possible too.
That would have been cool. But I wonder if any of those villains at the bar would have appeared again in the story. The only reason I get why they didn't keep the scenes is because at the end of the movie, spot had already arrived in new York and seemed ready to get Straight to business.
I feel like this is how they could start Beyond The Spider-Verse. Show that first scene and then cut to present day and show the Spot destroying it. It'd be a great way to start off with a darker and bleaker tone.
It would be great if we open the second film with the bar scene, and spot leaves, only to reappear seconds later in his more powerful form to clean house.
@@modishgen7481 you and me both already know its not going to come out in at least two years. there was a 5 year gap between the first and second one...
When the movie was seconds away from ending I went “Don’t you dare cut it…” and it cut…istg I was gonna yell “GODDAMNIT” but then again…my brothers were all gonna make fun of me for the rest of my life. 💀
That cliffhanger pisses me off. Idk why but when I watch something and a cliffhanger happens my day just feels incomplete for the rest of the day. And that was the worst cliffhanger of them all.
I think it would work in the next movie right after the fanfare where we see spot monologue after what happened to him in across. We open with a bar and have the same scene play out then keep going talking about across and then when the monologue is over we see the powered up version of him talking to the bar master as we see the camera zoom out to reveal the dead villains behind him
i have a suspicion that the next movie will start with a "for the last time people" but it will either be prowler miles or the spot doing the narration.
This scene would actually be really cool and show how much the spot has. Maybe they could of implimented the idea during mile's visit to the Spider Society HQ since it felt like the spot was completely gone during that act. Then again, I also like the idea of hiding his full powers until the second movie.
I was hella confused when I watched the movie, but not mad. I yar-har'd the movie on a sketchy movie site because I was impatient- and broke. I have Disney+ on one of my TVs but I didn't think it was on there lol. But I thought when it ended on a cliffhanger that it was just the site buggin- anyways it was pretty good and honestly I thought your idea was best- use the bar scene in the beginning, then begin the next one with him getting revenge. Though maybe the bar scene where they make fun of him could be after he tries robbing the store, because he's sad about it all failing and grabs a drink
Yeah it’s supposed to be a trilogy and while it kind of stinks at least it comes out next year. Also for some reason they’re absolutely brain dead because from what I’ve seen about it coming on Disney plus(because I really want to watch it again and don’t want to have to pay to go back to the theater) it’s supposedly coming out on Disney plus in 2025 which makes no sense and is ridiculous
@@titan1umtitan also the site that says that is extremely sketchy and there is absolutely no way they are releasing it to streaming in a month that’s just objectively inaccurate they would lose so much money on that it’d make no sense and the contracts don’t work like that
Also it looks like it’ll be on Netflix before Disney plus which is strange but I guess makes sense since Spider-Man is like a Sony property and the strange contracts
I think they intentionally decided to not show other villains so that it doesnt get wonky with power levels and potentially undermine future villain options
It was a really dumb choice... The movie has no ending...I love it but it feels like it just stopped.... They should have saved the alternate miles thing for the next movie and ended on this showing the threat of the villain
100% agree although we will be crucified for this opinion, we just have to accept and be grateful instead of having opinions and debate. Not sure why people are so salty that others don't like cliffhangers.. a feature length film shouldn't play out like a lost episode *in my opinion*. too bad we didn't read the fine print and prepared for the most abrupt ending in cinematic history
Any way you put it it’s going to be an anticlimactic ending… it’s not the filmmakers’ fault, this is already one of the longest animated movies in history and I’m glad they went with making two movies instead of trying to cut content that was vital to the story they wanted to tell
@@obamium3020 WE HAVE LIED WHETHER IT WAS A WHITE OR HALF LIE ITS STILL A LIE STOLEN EVEN IF IT WAS AS SMALL AS A PAPERCLIP AND LOOKED WITH PREVERSE INTENT AT SOMEBODY AS WELL AS USING GODS NAME IN VAIN SO TURN TO CHRIST FOR ON THE CROSS HE SAVED US FROM THE HELL WE DESERVE FOR THESE ACTIONS AND THREE DAYS LATER ROSE FROM THE DEAD TO GIVE US FORGIVENESS OF THESE THINGS AND ETERNAL LIFE, TO SPARE US FROM THE WRATH TO COME. HOWEVER EVERY PERSON MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AT THE JUDGEMENT
I think it'd be better to keep those scenes in to have one point of closure, having Spot destroy the bar at the end would boost tension thus hype for the next movie while showing the audience a taste of how godly his power has become
Talking about the cliffhanger, idk if any movie has done that ever! Like, they are actually not just revolutionizing 3d animation, but storytelling itself. Edit before I even posted the comment lol: forgot about end game.