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Growing up on the water with fishing in their blood, Matt Arey and Bryan Thrift have spent the last ten years competing against the biggest names in professional bass fishing. Their success has landed them ranked among the top anglers in the world. If you're looking to become a better angler, then this show has all the answers. Join us and follow along to get actionable tips, tactics, and tried and true techniques directly from the pros. Welcome to Let's Talk Fish!
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@Born2Fish1219
@Born2Fish1219 7 месяцев назад
Awesome video. All other pro sports have limitations or we’d see 600’ home runs and 500 yard drives. “Where do we want our sport to be” is the best statement on the matter I’ve heard yet. Great video
@andreaseichmann-qu5zx
@andreaseichmann-qu5zx 7 месяцев назад
Bank angler here and it's funny folks catterwallin bout ffs, folks just gunna gripe. I still watch Live anytime I can
@billbeard7909
@billbeard7909 7 месяцев назад
Matt, I enjoyed being in your boat as a Marshall last year. One of the things I really appreciated was you applying your skill and intuition in choosing targets for your wacky rig. I have livescope on my boat and like using it most of the time. I do feel that there should be limitations placed on the tech like 1 transducer, no AI etc. With two choices for live while y'all were at Fork, I chose to watch MLF invitational on Westpoint because I don't like watching anglers head down all the time.
@petecook1611
@petecook1611 7 месяцев назад
It takes away the unknown, it takes away instinct which is main thing fishing/hunting is based on it's just to powerful. Just like aluminum bats are to powerful, certain clubs to powerful, restrictor plates etc .
@muthafukajones1513
@muthafukajones1513 7 месяцев назад
You’re mixing recreational fishing and competitive fishing. Competitive fishing is about taking as many unknowns out of the equation. No one is stopping you from enjoying the unknowns of fishing. So try not to stop others fishing how they want.
@andrewbrowning-gm7nd
@andrewbrowning-gm7nd 7 месяцев назад
Doesn’t it take a little bit of the sport away if everyone is looking at the fish ? Wasn’t the mystery what made fishing special ?
@mikecrossman4010
@mikecrossman4010 7 месяцев назад
Then they should ban bed fishing as well.
@adambrodahl9849
@adambrodahl9849 7 месяцев назад
Mikecrossman now they can see the beds in dingy dirty water smallies out deeper . If you think this does not significantly add to bed fishing you are insane. You just allow then to bed fish the deep fish to . Smallies aint never gonna get a break..
@adambrodahl9849
@adambrodahl9849 7 месяцев назад
That jerk bait fish I seen that . He snagged that fish is my beliefe. How the hell does a fish eat with the way that other jerk bait was in its mouth . That fish was hooked on side of its face
@muthafukajones1513
@muthafukajones1513 7 месяцев назад
@@adambrodahl9849That’s how fish get hooked by jerkbaits.
@muthafukajones1513
@muthafukajones1513 7 месяцев назад
I would say no. Where is the sport in hoping that fish are there? If you see the fish, then the sport begins by trying to elicit a bite.
@DAY5-l2f
@DAY5-l2f 7 месяцев назад
Ban FFS in all pro fishing events
@poles38
@poles38 7 месяцев назад
Very good discussion, you said things I never thought of. It will be interesting to see years down the road, if FFS, had an effect on Conservation/ Tournaments Good Luck Matt, this Classic may be yours!
@jasonpadgett9615
@jasonpadgett9615 7 месяцев назад
Might as well be fishing a half acre pond with FFS or the fish in the tank at bass pro! The fish need a sporting chance! After using it I’m like wow it’s not even fair. It wouldn’t be a big controversy if it was.
@muthafukajones1513
@muthafukajones1513 7 месяцев назад
Sounds like you don’t really have any idea about how this technology works.
@jasonpadgett9615
@jasonpadgett9615 7 месяцев назад
@@muthafukajones1513 yes I’ve used it it’s easy that’s why they fighting to keep it
@muthafukajones1513
@muthafukajones1513 7 месяцев назад
@@jasonpadgett9615 You definitely have not used it at all. You are only saying it to add validation to your claim. Nobody who uses it thinks it’s easy unless you’re fishing for panfish. Randy has given you some vocal courage like the rest of your ilk.
@jasonpadgett9615
@jasonpadgett9615 7 месяцев назад
@@muthafukajones1513 lol ok whatever you think I have the whole setup 12 in garmin with the lvs34 I have been fishing tournaments and such for 20 years it is easy we have videos on RU-vid of it
@davidharris4030
@davidharris4030 7 месяцев назад
I think you are spot on as far as to early to make a decision with what little data there is.
@Nate_Higgins
@Nate_Higgins 7 месяцев назад
Go get em Matt. I've got you on my fantasy fishing team for the Classic. As a Beaver Lake guy, I know you can catch em around these parts.
@jeffporter100
@jeffporter100 6 месяцев назад
Enjoyed it!
@dangarrett3419
@dangarrett3419 7 месяцев назад
Will you wear the new apple ffs goggles for your tournaments and do you think they should allow those?
@chuckfish1855
@chuckfish1855 7 месяцев назад
On Toledo Bend & Fork, the top finishers built their bags, catching 6-10 fish each day as opposed to culling their way thru say 20 fish. So isn't FFS actually better for the fishery?
@timroyall6513
@timroyall6513 7 месяцев назад
I don't have FFS, only because I can't spend the money for it. That being said, I don't like watching guys do it. But I can see why they feel the need to have/use it. Good luck at the Classic Matt, and good luck at Redcrest Bryan! It would be awesome to see both of the big trophies go home to Shelby!
@chuckfish1855
@chuckfish1855 7 месяцев назад
I wasn't able to watch live and I didn't know the answer to the trivia question. Why am I not the winner? 😂
@shanebelding5776
@shanebelding5776 7 месяцев назад
They should allow under water camera to be fair if there is FFS
@kylelott7238
@kylelott7238 7 месяцев назад
Matt let me just say this. I have yet to run into anyone that has used FFS tell me they just absolutely hated it. And those people will spend what ever it takes to get the new and improved version of it. And for that reason only is why I say it will never go away or be banned.
@jimk4267
@jimk4267 7 месяцев назад
Agree...great point. Love mine!
@Boethius411
@Boethius411 7 месяцев назад
There was no reason for Bass and MLF to let this become such a polarizing issue before moving on it. I don’t think it’s just about the top levels. I worked building opportunities for these kids that weren’t there when I was growing up. There has never been anything that created the kind of gap between the haves and have nots as this. Several years ago now, I captained for some kids in high school events and after a blown motor issue, we fished most of the season in a borrowed 30 something year old 17 foot aluminum boat with a 90hp. Those kids were sticks and had a win and a couple more top tens with sub par equipment. That earned them scholarship money and some very valuable networking opportunities that led to sponsorships going into the Toyota Series events for one of them. He is now an MLF professional and I don’t think there’s any way he could have gotten the same opportunities today with daddy scoping for kids in these events now and telling them where to cast. Not that daddy’s money didn’t buy plenty of opportunities back then too, but I didn’t see it have such a direct effect in the events themselves. I don’t like that. And I don’t think some of these young pros can see the damage it is doing to the opportunities they were given that basically put them where they are now.
@muthafukajones1513
@muthafukajones1513 7 месяцев назад
You think a ffs transducer is what made a gap? 😂 not 100k boats or the thousands dollars of other equipment?
@Boethius411
@Boethius411 7 месяцев назад
@@muthafukajones1513 That’s not what I said boss. I wouldn’t mind seeing limits on multiple things honestly. But since you want to go that way, you tell me. For a tournament, Would you rather have brand new 21 feet and 300HP without electronics or a 20 year old 18 foot aluminum boat with a 90 or 115 decked out with 5 screens, 360 mega live and a couple of garmin saltwater live ducers?
@muthafukajones1513
@muthafukajones1513 7 месяцев назад
@@Boethius411 you did say that and it’s right in your comment. But to answer your question, that’s a fair trade off. I’d take either one. Rigged out old boat or naked new boat.
@Boethius411
@Boethius411 7 месяцев назад
@@muthafukajones1513 that’s a bit of a cop out. Either is not an answer. You know which one is going to be the advantage in a tournament. And you are misunderstanding or misrepresenting my point. It’s not just about the transducer. In these youth tournaments the kids are not the ones interpreting the graph and there is thousands of $$ in scholarships and endorsements that are at stake. This is the minor leagues for the elites. Before, as a captain, I could put the kids around fish. They still had to go fish for them. With this, I can point out the exact cast, watch their bait and tell them exactly what to do with it to intercept individual fish. I directed my 9yo who couldn’t really even cast his reel to make cast after cast hitting fish directly on the nose with a swim bait and he didn’t have a clue what was happening on the screen. I know he wasn’t able to compete with the other guys fishing, but he was the one who one and got the trophy. There’s has never been anything that put that much distance between the haves and have nots on the lower level. But that’s still not the point. The point is that if that fact is the thing that wakes some folks up to and equal out some of the opportunities for the have nots, then that would be good for the sport. The point is not a contest between the different kinds of advantages. It’s not whether expensive boats and better reels or the sonar tech is more important. The point is that the haves shouldn’t have a leg up to things like scholarships when they are the ones who need it the least.
@muthafukajones1513
@muthafukajones1513 7 месяцев назад
@@Boethius411 It’s not a cop out, you just made a poor choice in questioning. The disparity you speak of existed before ffs and it will continue after. It’s a sport of gear and the have nots will always struggle. Have nots will struggle with any sport that requires investment. That’s why rich kids play hockey golf, and equestrian. It’s the sport, not the technology. The technology does not make anyone equal or less. It’s still about who can find the best fish. If you think otherwise, you are listening to Randy’s propaganda like always.
@jasonpadgett9615
@jasonpadgett9615 7 месяцев назад
And my son has won 3 high school tournaments in a row in Nc without FFS!
@Theburningseason
@Theburningseason 7 месяцев назад
Lol I'm happy for him let's see him do it a club level
@jasonpadgett9615
@jasonpadgett9615 7 месяцев назад
@@Theburningseason already done multiple times it’s all on his RU-vid 👍
@Theburningseason
@Theburningseason 7 месяцев назад
@@jasonpadgett9615 sweet keep it up
@slabbusterrtr7690
@slabbusterrtr7690 7 месяцев назад
He will have to have it if he keeps moving up in competition and quicker he gets it and learns the better off he will be trust me
@jasonpadgett9615
@jasonpadgett9615 7 месяцев назад
@@slabbusterrtr7690 👍
@tadmyers5872
@tadmyers5872 7 месяцев назад
The title of this sounds about as exciting as telling a bunch of crazy “Dungeons and Dragons” stories. In 5 years both leagues will be filled with rich kid mommas boys who are giant LIVESCOPE NERDS!!!!
@petecook1611
@petecook1611 7 месяцев назад
Cell phones are ruining our kiddos an same for fishing
@petecook1611
@petecook1611 7 месяцев назад
U said it!! Its high fence hunting for the rich man
@muthafukajones1513
@muthafukajones1513 7 месяцев назад
Terrible analogy. A lake itself is high fence. Maybe fish in a basket is high fence.
@kylelott7238
@kylelott7238 7 месяцев назад
And also if they are gonna allow FFS in professional fishing then they should allow the use of A-Rigs. And all I am saying is you can make a valid argument that both give you similar advantages.
@dawsonholley11
@dawsonholley11 7 месяцев назад
A rig was an issue with state laws
@joeg1709
@joeg1709 7 месяцев назад
Anything that has a live picture/image available to target fish is too much, in my opinion. At some point, there has to be some limits put on it. In a 5 fish format, you cannot compete at the top level if you don't spend 20 to 30k for all the screens and transducers. And the message that sends to the public and anglers that may have hopes to reach that level is that the lower/middle class "working man" has zero chance and those are the ones that have built the sport and keep it propped up. Those are the ones that at some point will die out or leave and its a little scary to think what the future will look like if we dont get ahead of it all now. I know I am in the minority, but I actually don't care much about the fish catches themselves when watching. I am much more interested on the strategy and tactics on what made that fish bite. All the history and experience that made someone choose that spot/bait/depth/structure/contour is what draws me to watching. So while I get why it is necessary at the moment to have it, it just can bum me out that this is where we're at.
@muthafukajones1513
@muthafukajones1513 7 месяцев назад
Picture and live image? You mean the same as 2d? Again, you don’t understand the technology. All the same strategies, that go into finding fish happen with ffs. You think they just launch at the ramp and win? Stop listening to propagandists
@joeg1709
@joeg1709 7 месяцев назад
@@muthafukajones1513 2d isn't a live/active image. Neither is side scan. They both give still shots of what their beam just came across, not the real time active images that ffs give. Can a disposable film camera shoot videos? Same concept imo. I understand it my man, I just don't like it. Again, I'm not hating on those that are killing the game with it. It's within the rules and it takes a specific skill to find those ffs fish. No I don't think they just launch the boat and win and no need to be so defensive. I just hope at some point we figure out how to re-visit where the sport originated from and decide how to balance it all. Take it easy buddy.
@muthafukajones1513
@muthafukajones1513 7 месяцев назад
@@joeg1709 Every single person shouts out the same misinformation on this every single day on every single B.A.S.S. fishing video. Correct it’s not live on 2d, but it still shows you where the fish are, you mark them and then fish it. So you think they had that years ago? No. So ffs has made that more efficient. Speed up the sonar sweep, and point it forward. Not that crazy. I don’t understand how you can lobby against one and not all the others. It makes for an inconsistent argument. Have we all become hypocrites in fishing now?
@CadenAbbott-zg5wi
@CadenAbbott-zg5wi 7 месяцев назад
It’s actually illegal to throw crappie back from December-February on Lake Fork lol
@RandallHillyer
@RandallHillyer 7 месяцев назад
Have you noticed fish scattering when hit with FFS?
@mikecrossman4010
@mikecrossman4010 7 месяцев назад
That’s a myth, they hear the boat. It’s not like it’s a new frequency, side imagine and down imagine have bin using the same frequency for a while.
@mikecrossman4010
@mikecrossman4010 7 месяцев назад
If your worried about conservation, why you fishing during spawning? Seems like that would prolly be worse for the fish population than FFS.
@Boethius411
@Boethius411 7 месяцев назад
Seems like can come back to bite. It’s not even close. This is the equivalent of sight fishing beds 365 days a year. How long does a big female stay on the bed? Suppose she is interrupted in the middle of laying, what happens? Does the male still fertilize and guard those eggs? Upon release, does she find another male and finish laying? We have decades of data on sight fishing beds too, incidences of predation of beds, etc. We know that the most destructive tournaments as far as killing fish and harming populations are hot weather deep water events when they are susceptible to delayed mortality, not just from being ripped from deep water, but also bacteria and other diseases. The health of the genetic makeup of a lake doesn’t just depend on numbers. Not every fish has the genetics to grow big just like not every human does. Summer events kill and remove more big fish genes from the breeding population than tournaments during the spawns. That said, I still am not a fan of how tournament organizers for years scheduled events starting in Florida or Texas and basically move north with the spawn either. Conservation wise we can do better in a lot of ways.
@KennethRose-p7y
@KennethRose-p7y 7 месяцев назад
In my opinion all the century belts should have an asterisk beside them.I see no difference in scoping and Mark MaGwire and Sammy Sosa hitting 70 home runs on the juice.Its a shame to have to watch all the records get shattered because of technology and not by skill !!
@dustinmaccumbee8081
@dustinmaccumbee8081 7 месяцев назад
I dont want professional fishing to be grown men watching video screens, its not exciting. Almost every fish caught on FF sonar is 95% the exact same. How far are we going to let technology advance? Do we want to see every fish that swims? That does'nt seem like fishing to me? Its a very crazy subject but i dont like the way it is taking the sport.
@muthafukajones1513
@muthafukajones1513 7 месяцев назад
They were staring at screens for decades before so that’s a horrible argument. But it’s okay to use 2d, side, 360 to see all the fish swimming? You people have no consistency
@dustinmaccumbee8081
@dustinmaccumbee8081 7 месяцев назад
Your comparing 2d/ sideimaging/360 to FF sonar? Evidentially you have never used all of these because its not even closely similar.
@muthafukajones1513
@muthafukajones1513 7 месяцев назад
@@dustinmaccumbee8081 I have every one of them on my boat. Your gripe was staring at screens. Like I said, they have been staring at screens for decades and you had no problem. Ffs is real time 2d. You don’t know what species of fish or size. It’s 2d with a sped up sonar sweep, pointed forward. Did you expect sonar to remain the same forever? Nothing has in this sport. And if you can’t stand guys looking at screens then stop watching live. Do you understand the difference between live and an edited show that just shows fish catches? Guess what? Fishing is boring to watch. You have definitely not used any of this technology or you wouldn’t have this opinion that was programmed into your head by Randy.
@slabbusterrtr7690
@slabbusterrtr7690 7 месяцев назад
Heres what gets me so some folks say about FFS the off shore fish should be left alone fish we should never catch them BUT when they go up close to the bank to spawn they ok to catch them then huh ?? Thats the worst time to catch them... Its a unbeliavable tool but u still gotta catch them and a ooace like fork theu have alot of pressure on them they aint easy to catch so if you think they are you dont have a clue
@Theburningseason
@Theburningseason 7 месяцев назад
I feel bad using it on smallies in new york there is oiterally no skill involved at all
@Theburningseason
@Theburningseason 7 месяцев назад
I watched trey hit a dock 3x in a row but yet is in the pros lol
@davidhawkins6776
@davidhawkins6776 7 месяцев назад
Maybe that's why Ryan hasn't won, he doesn't listen to the question lol
@Theburningseason
@Theburningseason 7 месяцев назад
Ffs is not good for lakes its only obvious
@muthafukajones1513
@muthafukajones1513 7 месяцев назад
Based on what? Bro science? Randy science?
@nickbowenfishing2885
@nickbowenfishing2885 7 месяцев назад
They gotta stop ffs imo
@slabbusterrtr7690
@slabbusterrtr7690 7 месяцев назад
Why ??it all boils down you still gotta catch them and they ALL don't bite it's not like you catch every fish you see
@petecook1611
@petecook1611 7 месяцев назад
We as fisherman SHOULD NOT leave the decisions up to the organizations because we are the sport wout us there is no organization.
@godawgs5488
@godawgs5488 7 месяцев назад
Ban it! It’s not good for the sport
@adambrodahl9849
@adambrodahl9849 7 месяцев назад
My man I don't understand why people think the sport needs FFS. We all loved the sport before . To many are to worried about a 5 fish limit. I used to love how much the leader board would change with a 0 on the final day. It took instincts in talent. This one device eliminates all tTha. Also false Hooksett in biting. The concentration a angler needed to feel everything on the bottom in what's going on down there. To all the guys who want FFS all u did was a example of inflation. Let's raise minimum wage so everyone makes more. Then everything in your daily life goes up in price to pay for wages. All we did was make what use to be 10 pounds is now 20lbs stringers.. How many times are those big girls gonna get hooked in live after riding in a livewell all day. 60% of bass die after a summer tournament.
@nedyarb2000
@nedyarb2000 7 месяцев назад
So when do we decide we don’t need anything new? Maybe they should have banned paper graphs back in the 70s
@ThomasShue
@ThomasShue 7 месяцев назад
Yall need some help in the thumbnail game.. let me help yall step up your game here on RU-vid
@rogermuldrow2994
@rogermuldrow2994 7 месяцев назад
If it’s easy then why aren’t everyone winning? All the pros knew it was coming why didn’t they prepare to be just as good?
@duanemansel5704
@duanemansel5704 7 месяцев назад
FFS needs to go away in pro fishing
@rogerdolan8562
@rogerdolan8562 7 месяцев назад
FFS my opinion if you throw a bait at a fish enuff they are going to bite out of anger just like bed fishing but in open water nobody has mentioned that yet ..
@bryonshepherd
@bryonshepherd 7 месяцев назад
Two comments. No Smoke and too much Ffs . Loyal watcher gone ..........
@joeg1709
@joeg1709 7 месяцев назад
Bye
@muthafukajones1513
@muthafukajones1513 7 месяцев назад
Byeeee
@judgetoogood1033
@judgetoogood1033 6 месяцев назад
If you pros want too fish for trophies ban FFS….. ❤❤❤
@judgetoogood1033
@judgetoogood1033 6 месяцев назад
Everyone who has a boat , kayak, float tube, will buy a FFS, and maybe 2. The electronics companies worldwide will make BILLIONS of dollars. No way will TOURNAMENT OWNERS, bite the hand that feeds them. Nuff Said…. ❤❤❤. Money Money Money
@briancrawford1841
@briancrawford1841 7 месяцев назад
If you want to use FFS go ahead. I don’t want to use it. Why can’t we have tournaments split in 2 divisions. Those using FFS and those not. Salt water and crappie tournament trails are already doing this.
@jimk4267
@jimk4267 7 месяцев назад
No different than bed fishing tournaments...boring to watch. But if you go back to the Heavy hitters that Alton Sr. won. The drone shots were awesome. The MUST figure out a way to broadcast the screen to make it watchable. As far as competition and fisheries are concerned...there is no going back. It is just another tool. And I am 60+ and have been fishing tournaments for over 40 years
@claytonedney8568
@claytonedney8568 7 месяцев назад
Everyone stuck in the 70s bass fishing... Biggest crybabies are bass fisherman
@muthafukajones1513
@muthafukajones1513 7 месяцев назад
They’re all Randy cultists. They aren’t thinking for themselves. Just repeating Randy’s misinformation as fact.
@wesmclaughlin9369
@wesmclaughlin9369 7 месяцев назад
FFS is complete shit show, its like trout fishing in a pool at the fair. Ill never watch again unless its banned. It has no place in big circuit tournaments.
@basscat2107
@basscat2107 7 месяцев назад
Coop also did the exact same thing Trey did. That's the actual fish that got him the 100lbs Limiting it is the way to go banning it is not ok.
@Theburningseason
@Theburningseason 7 месяцев назад
If y linit u still will have the same results
@RealMitchRapp
@RealMitchRapp 7 месяцев назад
BAN RANDY…..While the sport tries to determine the impact of FFS, he’s creating as much drama as possible. Creating infighting, spewing lies without factual data… All for the views and dollars. Not a good patron for the sport we love. Dislike and unsubscribe ASAP If you think his cancer will grow and harm the sport. We better hope the state and fed don’t get involved… our choice will be obsolete
@Theburningseason
@Theburningseason 7 месяцев назад
They are getting involved and I can't wait
@RealMitchRapp
@RealMitchRapp 7 месяцев назад
@@Theburningseason because technology is the devil? Do you have any cameras on your vehicle that you drive on the road? Do you get mad when they light up so you can see where you’re backing up or look at your trailer while you’re towing down the road? Do you get upset when you want to screen mirror your phone to your television to show somebody something cool? Do you write paper checks at the grocery or use Apple Pay?
@Theburningseason
@Theburningseason 7 месяцев назад
@@RealMitchRapp you're a dumb you're comparing a camera on my car to ffs. U just made yourself look like the biggest tool in the box.
@Theburningseason
@Theburningseason 7 месяцев назад
@@RealMitchRapp there are some ppl in this world that shouldn't be allowed to reproduce and you are one of them
@nedyarb2000
@nedyarb2000 7 месяцев назад
@@Theburningseason You like government making every choice in your life? You sound like a dummy!
@tommyhoward5782
@tommyhoward5782 7 месяцев назад
Do away with practice just show up and fish.
@davidfuller4984
@davidfuller4984 7 месяцев назад
FFS, if legal, I’m done with watching.
@TracyWMitchell
@TracyWMitchell 7 месяцев назад
FFS has no place in competition. Here’s why. You guy’s that rely upon this sport to make a living are canabalizing yourselves. Viewership is tanking and will continue to decline as long as your ego gets ahead of the real skill it takes to compete without FFS. Big deal, kid is a really good video game fisherman. No one cares!
@muthafukajones1513
@muthafukajones1513 7 месяцев назад
It takes no more skill to compete without ffs, viewership is not tanking. Thinking it’s a video game just shows how if ignorant you are to the technology. You have never used it and don’t even have a boat.
@DAY5-l2f
@DAY5-l2f 7 месяцев назад
Ban FFS in all pro fishing events
@DAY5-l2f
@DAY5-l2f 7 месяцев назад
Ban FFS in all pro fishing events
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