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@ericthedesigner
@ericthedesigner 2 месяца назад
on a side note, the cyc gen 4 doesn't even break 52 Celsius and the bbshd I used to run would hit 90c every ride.
@FlyingScot911
@FlyingScot911 2 месяца назад
Closing in on 70 years of age here with over 200k miles under my belt around BC, WA, ID, MO, UT, CA, and Mexico. Hit 7 times by cars. 2 of those were NDE's (near death experiences) where I was hospitalized. The first one was several years ago in Mexico City where a taxi driver cut me off in an intersection where I was doing almost 40kph on a slight descent on a major road. The only thing that saved me was my years of experience and instincts. I threw my weight as far back as possible and turned my front wheel into the car in a split second. Front wheel collapsed on his fender taking a lot of the force as I crumpled into him and I ended up with a broken clavicle and ribs but walked away from it. Second NDE was back here in BC just over 3 years ago where an SUV crushed me in a roundabout. I woke up in the hospital with a shattered left humerus, facial lacerations, and lots of bruising. Shortly after that I built my first eBike with the first CYC X1 Stealth after a ton of research. I watched a lot of videos on different channels to understand what people had tested to learn from them. I wanted a torque sensing mid-drive motor for pedal assist so the X1 stealth was the best option. Especially for the mountain roads I wanted to ride on here. I bought a 12 year old Brodie Bandit for only $170 on FB marketplace and converted it. It had Shimano dual piston hydraulic brakes but after almost 20k of riding and 2 near collisions with bad drivers where my front brake pads exploded from slamming on the brakes I sunk $700 into quad piston SRAM Code RSCs and bigger rotors. I had migrated to the GEN 3 X1 Stealth by this time as I had worn out my cranks pedaling on the GEN 1. Gen 3 and the new spline design cranks are far superior. Although I have the full twist throttle I still just use pedal assist 98% of the time. I just, last week, finished a new build on a 2024 Soma Riff frame. I migrated the Gen 3 Stealth motor, 52 volt battery, brakes, accessories etc. to the new frame. Added a Shimano Linkglide drivetrain, eBike rated Rockshox 120mm front fork, so I could upgrade my front rotor to 220mm, and a set of hand-built 27.5" wheels. DT Swiss 350 hubs front and rear. The rear is the hybrid 36h version designed for eBikes. DT Swiss rim front, Cliffhanger rim rear, and a set of 2.15" Schwalbe Marathon Tour Plus moped rated tires. In the past week I have over 200 km of back country forestry road climbing and descending. Incredible. So much fun. I bring my Electrify Bike 200watt folding solar panel to charge my battery in the back country so I have the juice to get home. As far as road riding experience I live just a few km out of town in a rural area. Road speed limit is 60kph but most drivers are doing 80kph. I have had several RCMP pass me where I am doing 50kph - 60kph and they ignore me. And you can't miss me. Lot's of lights, clothing so bright people have to wear sunglasses when looking at me. And an upgraded 50kph rated bright orange bike helmet. There is a very nice demarcated shoulder for the most part. But there is a section where there is no shoulder and sign that says bikes take the road for safety. The speed limit in that stretch is 50kph. For safety I do 50 kph just to get through that short stretch but still cars/trucks will swing into the oncoming lane and pass me at 60+ kph. Asshole drivers. When I am in town I generally only use my motor when accelerating from a stop at intersections, again for safety reasons. When I am coming into town I average 35+ kph without the motor. The speed limit here for eBikes is 32kph. On the flats I easily pedal faster than that with the motor off which is legal. It only takes a few bad apples to ruin it for the rest of us. Oh, almost forgot. After building my first eBike I found in the first 8 months or so I had driven my a total of only 3 times. So I canceled my insurance. The savings on gas, maintenance, and insurance has more than paid for my eBike habit. And I am very healthy for my age.
@Alley00Cat
@Alley00Cat Месяц назад
Amazing! Does the CYC make any noise when pedalling with the motor off?
@TheWebstaff
@TheWebstaff 2 месяца назад
6kw will distroy the teeth in the rear cassette in less than 250 miles. Ask me how many wheels I went through before I gave up on big power mid drives.
@BlueMonkeyBicycles
@BlueMonkeyBicycles 2 месяца назад
Do tell
@anthonyfogleman8652
@anthonyfogleman8652 2 месяца назад
How many
@TheWebstaff
@TheWebstaff 2 месяца назад
4 Cassettes. Tbh a couple were still usable under normal use but no good with anything above human power levels as once they go they just skip as soon as you got Wot.
@TheWebstaff
@TheWebstaff 2 месяца назад
For me, the sweet spot is about 1kw peak power for MTB riding, thats about where a super human rider would be so most of the gear can take that if your retro converting.
@geraldhenrickson7472
@geraldhenrickson7472 2 месяца назад
The wheels too? I would think there are some unaffordable drivetrains that could last 500 miles or more. Were the pawls inn the freewheel torn up?
@ericthedesigner
@ericthedesigner 2 месяца назад
John, I love this kit! Mine is on an Iron Horse SGS downhill bike running 24 inch rear wheel with 26 inch front. KKE front fork.. Love this kit! I mounted a Sur Ron Light Bee rear wheel to my bike and a DMR front wheel. The Sur Ron rear wheel fitted to the 135mm QR with very little mods.
@TK-OK
@TK-OK 21 день назад
Any videos or pics ? Love to see your wheel conversion
@ventureimagery6370
@ventureimagery6370 2 месяца назад
I ordered the cyc x1 pro gen4, i will be attempting to install on polygon siskiu d6 video coming soon
@ariessun7273
@ariessun7273 2 месяца назад
you have the exact Idea that I do.
@mrskywalker115
@mrskywalker115 Месяц назад
Thats gonna be too much motor for that chassis I think. The X1 pro should be used on larger travel bikes or just bikes for pure speed on street but strong frames(steel). An example of a good polygon for that motor would be a N7/N9. I loved my T8 but even that would be out powered by the x1 pro imho
@ventureimagery6370
@ventureimagery6370 Месяц назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R2cCL44SmsU.htmlsi=BgJ-KCDAVb59RDZf
@tchaiquentin
@tchaiquentin 2 месяца назад
I see the battery is not available on CYC for sale yet
@cycmotor
@cycmotor 2 месяца назад
18s4p pack coming soon
@BT_life2
@BT_life2 2 месяца назад
Great review! Keep these up. Stuff the whiners. This motor doesn’t look much larger than the rest of their range. The interview with the company owner was excellent. Have these guys started working with anyone to produce decent dual suspension bikes yet?
@cycmotor
@cycmotor 2 месяца назад
Let's just say it'll be good to keep an eye on the market this year
@P2Pbase
@P2Pbase Месяц назад
Just ordered mine for my Giant Yukon 1 fat bike.
@ericthedesigner
@ericthedesigner 2 месяца назад
Dude! I'm running dual 52 volt 40amp bms batteries and I can't wait to upgrade to 72 volt 100 amp bms! Got mine on day one. This kit is just beyond! I smoke stock sur rons!
@tonytober
@tonytober 2 месяца назад
Wished to see how the A series battery clip and unclips from its holder, and how the holder is mounted on the bike. Video about this soon?
@tchaiquentin
@tchaiquentin 2 месяца назад
Will the battery fit on the underside of the frame for better lower COG? Also, not sure how long Norco’s chain system will continue to work it’s the torque.
@ridingdirty2412
@ridingdirty2412 2 месяца назад
Nice bike. Clean build. First thought. That satelite chain pulley above the crank. Yeah....
@SUB13333
@SUB13333 2 месяца назад
i had gen2 on my kona and it was the best ride I ever had, much more fun than any electric bike, but at 4000-5000w there was too much trouble with the chain line. for reliability its better stay below 2k
@cycmotor
@cycmotor 2 месяца назад
Guess some like the trill more than they like components 😅
@Michael-hh7nl
@Michael-hh7nl Месяц назад
Great video! Do you have any idea when that battery will come out???
@danielrichards121
@danielrichards121 Месяц назад
I have a gen 4 on my Cannondale Jekkel 700 with a tiny 10s 4p battery and it hit 40mh no problem. i am saving up to make a 20s pouch cell pack 120a bms with the 52T front ring on it now and 11T back it should be wiled
@rirrid5662
@rirrid5662 2 месяца назад
It's worth noting that you can run this at 1k or 2k watts if you prefer to look after your running gear and motor given that CYC aren't well known for their reliability.Also could you please share your experience with the torque sensing / pedal behavior? It's a major factor for me anyway in deciding whether to purchase or not. THanks.
@ryanmfitz
@ryanmfitz 2 месяца назад
that new battery is interesting any details on that? also, might wanna not pass pedestrians at 35mph on mixed use path... unless ur go pro speedometer was bluffing
@petedude2lu3
@petedude2lu3 2 месяца назад
yea, demonstrate removal, replacement of battery, strength of mounts
@mickp10
@mickp10 Месяц назад
Like the battery pack for full suspension mtbs
@stalker1567
@stalker1567 2 дня назад
Can we have ride modes programed so you have a boost, trail, eco and walk?
@annmcspadden8566
@annmcspadden8566 2 месяца назад
Amazing performance; do you have info about heat/overheat indicators and protection for this motor? In Texas, where I live, heat and high humidity are the big destroyers of both motor and battery longevity. Nice to see a big battery with some flexibility for mounting; this has been an issue for some conversions I've done...bike balance matters. Don't know what happened, but Bafang seemed to back into the shadows not long after the the introduction of their Ultra motor, designed to be used by bike manufacturers who needed an integrated motor/frame design.
@BlueMonkeyBicycles
@BlueMonkeyBicycles 2 месяца назад
Yeah, bafang got on the OEM train, and hasn't looked back
@BT_life2
@BT_life2 2 месяца назад
@@BlueMonkeyBicycleshow can you not? They made it mainstream. That’s the dream. I haven’t ridden a CYC. I’ve seen they’re lighter than the bafang alternatives but heard they feel less torquey to ride. What’re your thoughts & do you have a preference?
@NikolaiVozza
@NikolaiVozza 2 месяца назад
Im in Texas, rode the X1 Pro Gen 3 in 90 degree heat at 1000 watts on the throttle. Things got pretty hot but you could still touch the battery and motor with your hand. At 5kw sustained, you would definitely run into current limiting. The rating of 5-6kw should be interpreted in the sense that motor will be very reliable at lower power levels.
@annmcspadden8566
@annmcspadden8566 2 месяца назад
@@NikolaiVozza True, but 5K watts is a bit of overkill 🤣 just to run cooler. I am curious about the performance under a realistic load and climbing. The bike frame and brakes aren't adequate for the top abilities of a motor that size. Just a thought question. Your setup is more what I'd typically build.
@mikldude9376
@mikldude9376 Месяц назад
@@BT_life2yes the bad ang does seem to have a lot of torque, I have bbshd 1000 , set to off road mode it has a lot of pull, I prefer it in street mode , it is a bit kinda to the chain and gears and goes fast enough for my recumbent trike.
@27nicholi
@27nicholi 25 дней назад
where did you get the battery?? , it is not on the web site and is not commercially available ..
@user-un9lx4kp6u
@user-un9lx4kp6u Месяц назад
I'm kinda crazy so I'd put it on my OC Chopper edition Schwinn Stingray but not until I do a fork upgrade. Of course, I doubt it would fit so maybe a recumbent tadpole instead.
@user-jg1bo1eb7z
@user-jg1bo1eb7z 2 месяца назад
What voltage is that battery? 60V?
@cycmotor
@cycmotor 2 месяца назад
67V :)
@kevinnashskitchen3517
@kevinnashskitchen3517 2 месяца назад
Umm...They should sell frames and suspension along with kits. We can build it at home.Or have a list of bikes currently for sale that are perfect for each kit.. instead of us having to guess and cross our fingers buying bikes.
@JoLe1991
@JoLe1991 Месяц назад
assuming they use 40T cells,14S4P can be something like 52V 16Ah. that is way too small to sustainably provide that much power efficiently and without heating up very quickly. why stick to these outdated cylindrical cells when there are badass high energy density semi solid state batteries available? arranged longitudinally (two 7s packs in series)you can make a 45cm long slim battery that fits under the downtube, it has more capacity, is actually made for high power applications (drones) and will live a lot longer. For comparison, I used a 1400Wh 14S pack for my latest Bafang M435 build and it's totally badass. range is more than your butt can handle
@BramBiesiekierski
@BramBiesiekierski Месяц назад
Can you share some links / suppliers for these batteries?
@JoLe1991
@JoLe1991 16 дней назад
@@BramBiesiekierski sorry, you did not tag me, haven't seen your question
@GTunechi
@GTunechi 2 месяца назад
Would you sell the bike ? I need a good one with cyc
@nicod974
@nicod974 2 месяца назад
3,5kw nominal is actually just enough power for me towing a trailer...
@ChrisB...
@ChrisB... 2 месяца назад
I'm still on a gen 0 Cyclone 3Kw system from about 8 years ago, but I absolutely have my eye on these new offerings. Only thing I don't like is the software not being open source.
@ridingdirty2412
@ridingdirty2412 2 месяца назад
Writing to give props to the grandaddy Cyclone
@paulassaf-dw1ro
@paulassaf-dw1ro 2 месяца назад
The motor is now more powerful , you can run your bike with a single speed
@yohvh
@yohvh Месяц назад
Just wish they sell whole bikes. don't feel like building one.
@IRISHTRETTO
@IRISHTRETTO 24 дня назад
Ristretto 512
@rhysstatham7407
@rhysstatham7407 2 месяца назад
Amazing motor but not for me as it’s not in the spirit of a pedalec category it’s basically dirt motor bike this will need to have insurance , mot, road tax etc.
@BlueMonkeyBicycles
@BlueMonkeyBicycles 2 месяца назад
I agree, not really my cup of tea, personally. I'm excited that a new sport seems to be emerging.
@annmcspadden8566
@annmcspadden8566 2 месяца назад
Agreed; however, CYC does offer other lower powered systems. Options, folks.
@NikolaiVozza
@NikolaiVozza 2 месяца назад
Company comes out with a product that makes better affordable transportation available for everyone, and you want to restrict it and tax it? Makes perfect sense.
@rhysstatham7407
@rhysstatham7407 2 месяца назад
@@NikolaiVozza it's a fact of life this motor is currently in the UK illegal and rightly so, the only way this motor would become legal you will have to get it registered with the DVLA, road tax, have it insured, subjected to mot and ride it only on roads not cycle paths. I agree it's a powerful motor exciting to ride I'm sure but don't expect it to be free of stricter regulation it ain't going to happen.
@zentechnician
@zentechnician 2 дня назад
40 mph over the space of a football field is fast and powerful? You are funny. The chances that CYC is just a branch of Bafang are quite high btw. The tooling needed to make something like this is extremely expensive, even in Asia. A group of enthusiast as they say in their about us on their website did not casually raise millions of dollars and go into business against a giant like Bafang. An investor betting a team of 35 can best a company that makes most of the hub motors on ebikes available seems very very unlikely. What a crock. Nope.
@BlueMonkeyBicycles
@BlueMonkeyBicycles 2 дня назад
I think you've misunderstood a few things
@HighVoltageKits
@HighVoltageKits 2 месяца назад
Deleted my comment in short order huh.
@BlueMonkeyBicycles
@BlueMonkeyBicycles 2 месяца назад
I haven't deleted anything.
@HighVoltageKits
@HighVoltageKits 2 месяца назад
@@BlueMonkeyBicyclesokay then I’ll put it here. I’m assuming that pass on a pedestrian was a setup. I really hope so because if not it’s incredibly stupid. I break some laws but I would never in a million years do that. I walk the bike past dogs and kids regularly. There are a million better ways to show off the Gen 4 than that. Multiuse paths past a person that is not aware it’s 10-20 kph max. Better still call out and make them aware. I just don’t understand what you are trying to achieve here other than throw yourself and the rest of us that enjoy this kind of riding under the bus. There are not many views. It’s not not too late to delete this intro and redo it.
@BlueMonkeyBicycles
@BlueMonkeyBicycles 2 месяца назад
Ya got me! It was setup. I might be able to hack the intro off through the RU-vid editor. I'll take a look.
@HighVoltageKits
@HighVoltageKits 2 месяца назад
@@BlueMonkeyBicyclesI am glad that’s the case.
@BlueMonkeyBicycles
@BlueMonkeyBicycles 2 месяца назад
Ok, it's gone now 👍
@joshuabuilds3051
@joshuabuilds3051 Месяц назад
This guy deletes comments? I hate that more than dumb and pointless, insulting comments
@BlueMonkeyBicycles
@BlueMonkeyBicycles Месяц назад
Huh?
@mwreyf1
@mwreyf1 2 месяца назад
Ok...About $2000 for the motor and battery, then you still need to find/purchase a full decked out conventional bike. That is WAY TOO expensive of an option for most. $1250 for a motor is ridiculous, when you can now find eBikes that have just as strong a motor with the whole eBike costing slighly over that cost. HARD NO FOR ME.
@BlueMonkeyBicycles
@BlueMonkeyBicycles 2 месяца назад
I would not trust a $1,250 electric bike with this kind of a system.
@Alley00Cat
@Alley00Cat Месяц назад
You will definitely NOT find a bike for $1250 with 5kw rated power.
@jeffreylee5770
@jeffreylee5770 2 месяца назад
I think powerful e-bike kits like this may result in fatalities and serious injuries, and then more e-bike laws will follow. I think most of us on e-bikes need 750 watts and lower as power goes as most of us are commuters and runners of errands. A small number of high-speed bikes may hurt all of us a lot. Maybe they should try to separate these higher power e-bike motors that are almost as powerful as a gas-powered dirt bike or motorcycle.
@BlueMonkeyBicycles
@BlueMonkeyBicycles 2 месяца назад
Maybe so. I personally ride at these speeds very rarely, like once every 4 years. Although it's exhilarating, I'm scared to do much past 30mph.
@BT_life2
@BT_life2 2 месяца назад
That’s why you shouldn’t think. You’re a muppet.
@NikolaiVozza
@NikolaiVozza 2 месяца назад
Hot rod hub motors pushing 6kw have been available for quite some time, and yet there isn't a widespread epidemic of people being dangerous on those. This market is small and niche, because not many people are doing to take on a conversion project, and those who do usually have a good head on their shoulders to not be dumb with it.
@sempi_loud2659
@sempi_loud2659 21 день назад
Mate if I'm on the road I can go as fast as I want
@petedude2lu3
@petedude2lu3 2 месяца назад
you are good at speaking, but your biking shots are poor
@Benjamin_Jehne
@Benjamin_Jehne 2 месяца назад
To be honest, it should be illegeal to even sell these kits. If a cop gets someone with this kit mounted to a bike - straight to prison and no driver license for the rest of his life as the person shows that he is unable to respect the easiet laws. There must be a point when enough is enough. This is straight criminal and you drove this thing on streets, what is absolutly unacceptable. 👎
@rayrayravioli4250
@rayrayravioli4250 2 месяца назад
Straight to prison? No more driving licence for the rest of his life? What r u smokin bud I mean yeah using a bike at those speeds on a mixed path is insanely stupid and careless, I agree on that, but banning the sale of these kits is just outlandishly stupid. Go ahead and ban all cars that do >200hp while you're at it
@NikolaiVozza
@NikolaiVozza 2 месяца назад
Yall can do whatever makes you happy in Europe lol. We in United States are going to have fun.
@CaseyKoplinCk13
@CaseyKoplinCk13 2 месяца назад
Yea this is all fine in the USA. We don’t have the same rules
@Benjamin_Jehne
@Benjamin_Jehne 2 месяца назад
@@CaseyKoplinCk13 You in the US can use 750W motors + max 28mph. The rest is a motorcycle and needs a license plate.
@Benjamin_Jehne
@Benjamin_Jehne 2 месяца назад
@@NikolaiVozza Thats why e bikes get banned at more and more places in the US. While it's getting illegal more and more in the US, we in Europe will still have fun. That rude behavior and who cares is the reason, why you will get into trouble.
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