I didn't know you could use a chipper as a grader, didn't think you were going to get it out of the last job area but you did then put it into the sand, thought you were gone but you know what you're doing hats off to you great job.
I have recovered lots of heavy loads from sand. I reside in a desert area and worked large recovery for a living. Never ever have the stuck unit(semi tractor) apply power. It always causes the unit to sink lower into the sand and then increases drag due to frame/ running gear dragging. This goes for mud also, just in a lessor degree. When pulling the chipper from the rear, you would have increased the chance of getting out by short lining the winch cables(getting closer, increasing the angle, thus taking weight off of the chipper) resulting in taking weight off the tires of the chipper and loading it onto the large tires of the Cats that have massive flotation. Recovery from sand is a science, not just brute force .............regards/thanks for sharing your troubles.
Couldn't agree more, at least the skidder drivers knew what they were doing even if the semi tractor insisted on digging his wheels in and bellying out . . .
Yeah, fully loaded lowboys just magically float over the mud (never sink) and put no strain on the cables just by leaving it in neutral and being a dead weight. My experience is in mud, and lots of it, and experience tells me different-I've tried every way.
Oh there we go now the fun begins, I miss those days backing up for a mile or so it got old but it's part of it nowhere to turn around in those hills and mountains. Good job
14:00 branch finish....years ago in my small excavation business, my foreman used the 4-1 loader bucket on our JD 410 backhoe to grab a juniper tree we had taken down and "swept" the lot after we backfilled a foundation. They were 1/2 acre lots...I was impressed...he called it a "juniper Tree Finish". I like it!!!
Elite Earthworks LLC add regulations and tree rot and disease plus the bugs to the most recent frustrations. If loggin payed good enough you could afford to throw 40 loads of “#3 crushed cobble in the mud holes
Gonna be able to add a pusher and tag axle on the shaker after that job good thing just movin around the corner sand maybe a lil better for drainage have a good week John
Haven't seen you teem up like that in a while. That got me to laugh pretty good at the end " now we smooth it out with a feather " here comes the skidder with a bundle of bushy logs
Skid plate! Yep, these vids have a lot of advice and mine is a skid plate in front of the first trailer axel. Just enough that it has to ride up just before the tyres start cutting dirt. I’m thinking 10 to 12” off the ground at the lowest , full width and five foot length with sya a 20 degree slope.
Ya plus one skidder ahead of the other PULLING is more in unison. Never PUSH on any vehicle. See him pushin' at the turn around with truck turned 90 degrees, lol
@@bobmorris9687 you're right, they're all rookies and never been in a tough situation before, you need to get down there and show them how to do it or they'll never accomplish a thing
Amazing on how much the tractor/semi will take. When is it ever worth getting a lead load of 1x3 crushed rock or stone to put down? I understand you might be a good hour or so away from a gravel pit but is it ever worth building a landing with stone or gravel? I see Lutke will do that on occasion on some large hills to get back to the landing. Thanks!
We use to dump pea gravel into soft mud like that at a C&D waste site after Hurricane Katrina. It was the only way to firm it up. We used pea gravel from roof removal jobs.
Good video John, perhaps I am telling you to suck eggs but why don’t you build a raft of logs and perhaps fabricate skid plates for the underside of your trucks and trailers, I know it may reduce ground height!! But at least the equipment will float rather than sink , because it’s all to easy pulling air pipes off etc
I swear, from watchin you guys get stuck... it looks like the reason you guys get the stuff out yourself is cause yall could have a pair of 75 Ton rotators and it still wouldn't have a prayer of gettin this stuff out when its this stuck this far back here w/o just burying themselves just as deep, when u got weights like this in soil conditions like this... its just your own brains n creativity and skills to get em out
Chipper or scraper ! With that much pulling/pushing power you’d be better off leaving the tractor in neutral his spinning is taking your ground clearance lowering the front of the trailer into the ground
Looks to me like chains in that soil would just be an agitator stirring more mud. Ring chains here in New England have better soil content to bite, called Rock!!
this is everyday in Russia.. Lucky NoT frozen in.Best not to pivot turn on soft sand twist trailer axel's off if in deeper.G et a Oshkosh military tractor 6×6 with 40 ton winch used for Abrams Tank recovery for these type of jobs. They go cheap and are indestructible Thanks Nice rigs good job Not here to criticize.
If it had been up too me I would have just taken the truck outta the equazion. Bring both skidders around too the front of the chipper, and lifted the front end up with the claws and some chains on either side of it. Then used the cat too push from behind while the skidders lifted and pulled from the front tell you got it too solid enough ground that the truck could take back over. Just my .02.
Hey question for you?? What happens when you level up the chipper and the out riggers are fully down, you come in the next morning and she sunk up to the belly of the beast?? What do you do then to get it leveled back up??
Hey. Here's an idea: get yourself a twin-axle Dolly, and something on one of those CAT's, Deere's or whatever. Bet you anything that will be more cost-effective than 3 CAT's, a dozer, ánd by now a ruïned Truck. But hey, what do i know...
I can't Believe how you do things sometime in Amercia. In Europe we will for sure use a dozer or a tracked front loader to do a empty place before bringing the truck. You use is too tough !
If I'm not mistaken the man says he's over it. It doesn't sound like he's over it. Nice team work getting that out of there. It will take you three days to clean it enough to put it on the road again. Been there done that.👎🤬🐗
Yall need a darn d8 with a monster winch...or old d9g like al quiring....it'd end up with half the front end of a western star trammin before you knew it...lol
Well that was embarrassing... Maybe he should try building the road first instead of dragging a half million worth of iron through the mud and then fixing the road
why in the heck was the guy in the truck turning the wheels?? make it harder to move while "plowing" the ground with his fronts.. towed vehicles DO NOT STEER!..DA
all the time and money wasted ! instead of wasting time and money pushing and pulling and wear and tear on your machinery and trucks ! just take the time to build a good road and landing ! all the time and money you waste could be put into a good haul road and landing ! that means moving more wood ! keep the skidders pulling wood instead of pulling trucks ! and the trucks moving wood without help ! in short more production !
