I have been trying to figure this out for a week! Finally stumbled upon your video and I drew the round bench in a rendering I needed in 5 minutes! Thanks so much!!
Surprised there are so many detractors, but none of them offer specific evidence of anything wrong! I think its a great video and it has alerted me to the fact that one of my drawings transferred to a canvas for painting involving a circular object was not quite in perspective. Thanks greatly!
Thank you so much, this was very helpful I was, for some reason, having so much problems with this, but after watching your video and taking notes, it all made it so simple.
I think one reason that the wheel diagram is or looks distorted is because the box that houses it is drawn in 1-pt perspective, whereas it should have been drawn in 2-pt. This is because there are TWO sides of the box which are visible, both of which should be receding into the distance toward their own vanishing points.
Thanks bunnygrunt a very helpful video...this method works really well following a helical spiral so I'm a little closer to copying the simpler Rafeal Araujo sketches great help thanks again xx
You just need to create a perfect cube first by using the 45° and Station Point, then use the technique shown above to get the circular cylinder right?
A lot of the detracting comments here refer to drawing CIRCLES in perspective, which then 'become' ellipses. This video demonstrates an ELLIPSE drawn in perspective. They don't look right if you're expecting to see a circle in perspective. They are correct if you are drawing something which is an elliptical shape in reality, like a tube cut at an angle.
Can confirm that this is not accurate. I did the math and those circles are just a tiny bit too stretched out. However, the difference is tiny (6% on the diagonals), so this "technique" can still be used to achieve reasonable results.
Are you referring to the cross-hairs of the ellipse in a wheel form? Not sure, as you're using 'car-speak' and I work the 'art-speak'. ;) After drawing the perspective center X, the cross-hairs follow suit with the lines parallel to them. So on the wheel, one cross-hair will be vertical, the other will follow the vanishing point (as the sides parallel to it also follow the vanishing point). Let me know if that's even close to what you're asking. :)
I have a question-- How do you draw an ellipse into the space marked off by the dots? It happened like magic in the video and totally wowed me. This tutorial was mind-blowing. Thank you for it. :) I only hope I can figure out how to draw that perfect ellipse from those dots....
@MangaTipoftheDay Will do! I'll put those on my plate for future videos. :) I'm glad you like this. For this tutorial I'm using Photoshop. For specifics on that, I might need to do another tutorial. ;)
Yep, since the square measures are taken with the eye and not with any other method, the circle in perspective (that´s the ellipse) is not perfect, so those are ovals not circles. It could present some proportions problems if you are constructing something out of that. But anyways, if you are aiming for an artistic approach that´s enough.
All those horizontal lines go to second vanishing point. In this video there's only one vanishing point, so all horizontal lines are linear to each other.
Hi Salina, The tutorial is meant as a guide for drawing on paper. In this particular case I explained the process then inserted the ellipse. In my future tutorials I'll be sure to draw in the ellipse so it makes more sense. :)
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@AsjJohnson127 I use the elliptical marquis tool on a new layer, skew it using the free transform option and then fill the line with a stroke. The tutorial is actually meant to demonstrate the process to be completed freehand. Keep practicing, it will get easier the more you do it.
Thanks for the tutorial. Here is a question. How do you determine the depth (back end) of the sphere? Say I draw perspective view of a car. How do I determine how deep (far back) the tires end?
@AndrevwZA There is a method for that, but it's pretty complicated. Maybe another video? Just keep in mind the car would be VERY foreshortened. By using reference images you can get a sense and eyeball it.
I am learning to draw and am stuck on how to determine when and where to place vanishing points in 2 point perspective. When instructors state to place them far apart to prevent distortion, they never give tips on how to decide how far apart - they just state, "Until it looks right". How does a new artist know what looks right? I need a rationale.
The problem your having seems to be with Cone of Vision or CoV for short. The idea behind CoV is that information outside the viewers CoV will become distorted when the information reaches the viewer. This will cause a square in perspective to appear as a rectangle. The cone of vision can literally be thought of as a cone (from the viewers eye being the tip) hitting the picture plane. The standard CoV is about 60 degrees but a smaller or larger CoV can be used for greater/lesser amount of distortion. This explanation is complicated and its difficult to explain using just text as it deals with technical perspective, however if your interested in fields that use strong perspective (such as industrial design) Id recommend getting a good book on the subject as it is a very useful tool in practice. I hope this helps. :)
@8fantasy19195 I use the elliptical marquis tool on a new layer, skew it using the free transform option and then fill the line with a stroke. In Photoshop. :)
totally a novice thing, but: why is the cylinder always in a single orientation? it is always facing upwards, like resting on a table. wouldn't all these rules be 100% subverted if you, for example, allowed the cylinder to rest on top of a pebble? now the orientation of the overall cylinder is offset. and therefore perspective drawing with this technique is impossible...? meesa confused.
great video, but I have an issue with the wheel. If: 1. the minor axis of the ellipse is collinear with the axle of the wheel (attached to the chassis) 2. the axle of the wheel is horizontal then it follows the minor axis should be horizontal surely? or have I got that wrong?
How do you decide where to draw the second, horizontal closing line of the rectangle, before drawing the X? That is what I find the most difficult and so far, no instructor on RU-vid has grappled with this important problem. The instructor just draws this line "roughly" where it is supposed to be. What is the secret ?
but you need to draw a square in perspective in order to draw a circle from it in perspective. that is the most important thing to learn if you want to draw say a wheel of a car or a cocacola can, or a coin etc
French's mechanical drawing. Thus the French curve. page 87-88. Now what about the long and short diameter of an oval in two point perspective. Please use the toolbox so everyone can follow.
bunnygrunts Mm.. yes its true. Actually its not in the "middle' of those lines. You can get away with it, but the more the ellipse is turned those "middle" dots will become farther from the middle point. This is easy to prove by doing a 2 point perspective Projection drawing.
bunnygrunts I agree that eyeballing that middle point will help someone freehand ellipses.. But you can even see clearly it in the other cylinders you drew.. the points on the closer side of the cylinder's ellipses are slightly south of that "middle" point.. as where the points on the farther side are slightly north of that "middle"
Right. This is why you use the perspective center X to find the middle of a rectangle in perspective, it places the 'middle' dot of a shape in the PERSPECTIVE middle, not the measured middle, making it correctly off-center. It sounds as if you're under the assumption that using the 'X' places the center in the measured center, which it does not.
Please, I think I have everything else down but this: If the ellipse were facing "fwd" it would appear as a circle inside a square, correct? When you place the horizontal line @1:03. How do you know where to place it? I understand how to make an ellipse inside a rectangle now thanks to you. But I don't know where to place the line so that I am drawing a square in perspective. Thanks for the help.
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You said free handing... what you realy meant was... use a computerprogram to put a circle in the box we drew. and there is alot of other things you said that aren't true...
It's important to remember that this is a very basic representation of how cylinders and ellipses work in perspective. There is a lot of distortion that happens in this oversimplification.
