Creepy Reason Nobody Talks About The Deadliest Ship Disaster In History 

😢 i'm sorry.

So sad for your loss

Sorry to hear

What happened to his two siblings? So sorry for them

@@historynerdneiledits they died HE LITERALLY SAYS IT

True

There was another ship nearby that hears the distress call of the Olympia, not the titanic most all of the people were saved they been lying to us for years .

@Laura Andel true

lots of these lives were nazis and I think that their fate serves them right

@@redshuttleredacted6422 *No no Germans

the grandparents of a friend of mine as well. crazy right?

Yeah. Imagine they barely board the ship

My Great grandfather lost his life in the sinking, and he was Navy so he was a good swimmer

@TenSack well i do.. at least. but what the f. i understand your logic but i think it is wrong. there are billions of possible outcomes to every action and every human beeing. if you were born it meant this string of outcomes happend. nothing to owe, nothing to prove. it just IS and thats that

What's the rest of the story?? What happened? How did they make it out instead? I love survival stories 😯

Unless they’re Nazis in which case it’s fantastic

It was an ocean liner.

Well i think if u are trying to flee an active warzone you would rethink that.

Strange comment. People didn't want to go on a cruise, they wanted to escape the Russians!

It was not about the cruise. It was about fleeing for dear life. And unfortunately, they lose their lives

Do not board any ships. They are floating cesspools of disease where you are surrounded by profuse quantities of strangers with no way off the floating potential epidemic. If you fancy being surrounded by a plethora of disease ridden strangers with no retreat to get distance between the pathogen sacks and yourself, then board and make merriment. If you value your privacy and haleness, then the floating communicable disease factories are neither intended for you nor your kin.

What I've found, at 56, is that most of the people around is staggeringly ignorant, and the younger the more they are. I learned about the Wilhelm Gustloff in John Tolland's book "The last hundred days".

Yup

What is the song?

@@larryhill9729 idk

I wouldn't say that the Titanic took 2 hours to sink. People thought they will be saved the tension and false hope made it so much worse in my opinion. These people hade 0 hope due to military action. And the people who did hade a extremely lucky escape

@@dbmikeyg255 I was referring to the movie.

The Soviets wanted revenge for their motherland.

@@Tanknuggets217 yeah by sinking a ship carrying refugees.

@@IsengardMordor FOR THE MOTHERLAND

@@Dev-ne9jg its still a war crime though.Otherwise the soviets wouldnt have tried to destroy the wreck with explosives several years after the sinking. What did they have to fear one wonders...

@@Tanknuggets217 they murdered polish population for the motherland too?

Maybe the reason they had anti aircraft guns installed is because britain already bombed several unarmed CONCENTRATION INMATE SHIPS and several other red cross/civilian ships by now. The war was lost,they needed safety from this ferocity,the US cried war crimes when germany sunk their "passenger ships" that were chockfull of ammo and weapons. Interesting hos that works

As a Russian i disagree cuz we call it "Отечество" (отче/отец = father") so it's Fatherland

I think it's only Russian thing - even in Poland it's ,,Fatherland" _(Ojczyzna_ - it also means land inherited by father and is used in this meaning)

@@Admiral45-10 Ojczyzna? we also call it like that "Отчизна", do you have "Rodina" in Polish?

@@TheRifild we have _rodzina_ for family (searching somewhere you can also find _famililia_ - Noble family protecting Polish heritage). But yeah, we say Ojczyzna - this is land we inherited from our ancestors, so we should keep it and protect it at all costs, and let it grow and last for next 1000 years.

To be fair, the ship wasn't marked as a civilian or medical vessel, so the most likely answer is the Soviet sub thought it was a military vessel(As it was used before this voyage)

@@liaevans4483 well you can clearly see its a civillian ship and not a destroyer...

@@Doc_Rainbow From the video "They launched at night and in bad weather" so saying it was "clearly seen" is too easy to say.

​@@jess4you13 well i think you can see the difference between a Civilian Cruise Ship an a Armored Warship with multiple cannons :D

@@Doc_Rainbow you're in a rough weather at night and the only light source emitting from the target ship is on the front deck. You wouldnt be able to tell through a periscope mate. You think subs just shoot their missiles 10 meters in front of their target? They're far away and calculate the distance between them and the speed of the projectile. Cruise ships aren't just compared to war ships mate, it could've looked like an enemy merchant ship during that time.

RIP to 9000 people who died, including 5000 children

@@randied603 yeah

@@randied603 That mist of them were children is really sad

There is. It’s called “Die Gustloff” and it’s a good watch!

Oh thanks I didn't know that. I'll check it out

An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind

The important difference here is that Armenia was unarmed and was properly marked with white paint and red cross as a hospital ship. Wilhelm Gustloff was neither of those.

Because its overshadowed by WW2.

History is written by the victors

This was a true crime unforgivable

What does that even mean…?!?

I know right. Titanic was bad and got so famous by the movie, but this really put ship disasters to the next level, and nobody realized it.

countryball and satw?

The only difference is that the tragedy of Wilhelm Gustloff happened by the hands of a communist, who in his mind was doing the service for his own country... to me, it somehow makes more sense than the sinking of Titanic, which could be avoided completely. Like, come on. Hiding from torpedos which can attack you from every angle cannot compare to a freaking ice-berg. Easy math.

Apparently the word unsinkable does not really live up to its definition. If I go on a ship that claims to be unsinkable, someone grab the nearest blunt object and just smack me with it.

@@zuzannabrzeszczak1578 maff it’s maff

a ship that later became a myth that is compeletely debunked by now.

WW2

Due to WW2 ignorant people think it is acceptable to ignore the Death of German civilians, even of completely innocent children. I cannot imagine the disturbing view of literally thousands of children drowning, but some people are so inhumane that they ignore their horrible and sad death.

@@RundfunkerOnline A lot of them have also said that they wished they could've seen the Atom bombs go off over Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

@@RundfunkerOnline Dresden

@@jerryh2954 Thank you for telling. It’s true, but sadly it often gets overlooked or even ignored, because ignorant people see it as „deserved“, which is a horrible view, that doesn’t make any sense. Two wrongs never make a right.

The Bismarck...

@@noobie1890 that's not a disaster

@@unddasheit4034 it was a very well known maritime disaster (for the krauts)

@@noobie1890 well, they scuttled it because of heavy damage

@@unddasheit4034 and 2000 peopls died on it

Ikr

Finally? Really? There have been many videos about this ship over the years.

@@bf2840 There many videos but compared to the Titanic it is extremely overlooked

@@AuroraBoost Well compared to the Titanic every ship disasters are very overlooked. 💁‍♂

@@bf2840 Thanks for missing the point I guess...?

Yikes. The world would've been over.

"Comrade Marinesko! Computer reports multiple nuclear missiles coming towards us.* "Send our (hic) own missiles. Capitalist (hic) pigs don't bomb the motherland without (hic) penalty." "But comrade, it could be false alarm!" "Coward, eh? Fine, I'll do it myself." *Presses button*

Armageddon on a human scale

@@Saunakiuas06 US: They nuked us! US 2: *C O M M I T W A R C R I M E S N O W*

We would have Fallout 5 UVR (Ultra-VR)

That's not very fun at all

@@hokemoseley2934 Neither are any other "fun facts" worth hearing

Tbey should be called gloom facts instead

ALWAYS, surviving is the hardest thing of all. Trust me. Getting your Lamborghini towed is not as hard as cutting off your hand that is wedged beneath a boulder in the middle of a desert. (duh)

@@hokemoseley2934 nor is it a fact

Yeah. The Dona Paz collided with a oil tanker (I've think) called MT Vector. They both caught fire and sink

Yeah it was a Huge fire

Yea, the known casualties of the Dona Paz were comparable with the Titanic (about 1500) but about 3/4th the casualties of the Dona Paz (3000 - 4000) weren't officially listed on the ship's manifest and we will never know for sure how many died.

in terms of survivors Hood only had 3 people survive

And the Joola in 2002. 1,800 dead 2nd deadliest in peacetime

On a walk?

@@Deep_Dish she was doing her nursing rounds on the ship is the story I was told by my grandmother

It's strange to see how modern German government support Russia even if modern Russia is leaded by KGB man, so basically same ideology that justify killing innocent people. My both grandfathers were participating in WW2 on Soviet side. But I'm feeling really sorry for innocent souls. It's very depressing how many innocent people died on that war

Compartmentalization

Time

Time

Time

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History is written by the victors.

More so being German.

Kitten DID nothin wong

It's far more about the people being German, tbh.

Any links?

@@Deep_Dish I suppose he means the "Steuben", the "Goya" and the "Kap Arkona". Together with the "Gustloff".

Your poor Oma, glad they didnt get on that ship.

@@aquilasteckel2533 U think this story is real?

@@Rob774 Why shouldn't it be? A lot of these things happened back then. Since there were thousands of people on the Gustloff and many thousands more who tried to flee the same way, there is a large number of people who has stories to tell from their ancestors back then.

Wow. That is a good thing she did miss it...

Wouldn't make a difference either way lol

@@BlakeGibbons deine Antwort und Meinung ist mir scheißegal lol

@@BlakeGibbons it would

@Punx is idol and noise lool

There is a German movie about this with the same name (Wilhelm Gustloff), it's very well made and I will never forget the scenes.

EL FARO❤

Most of them were in wartime though. Titanic is famous exactly for entirely civilian setting. Anyone worth their salt knows about Gustloff, same as Titanic there's nothing new about it.

@@ToreDL87 lol k

Have you heard of the MS Estonia?

Won't, not a will: very unfaithful thing to do

i thought that too

That happens very often, and the problem appears disregarded. In many sinkings - the last case being Costa Concordia - only HALF of the lifeboats, from one of the sides can be used because of the listing. Counterflooding, when feasible, may also accelerate the sinking. When the MV Estonia sunk in 1994 I guess only the starboard lifeboats could have been launched and even so I believe that with the speed of the sinking, absolute panic, darkness, lack of training and severe list probably not even one was lowered; I certainly saw none on TV, only inflatable lifeboats, some upturned. The sinking of the MV Estonia was truly horrible. When SILJA EUROPA and MARIELLA reached the scene, the ship was gone. There were douzains of lights from life jackets in the water, but most of the people had succumbed to hypothermia, even people inside the lifeboats. At first light, CH-46 helicopters from the Swedish Air Force were scrambled but for most of those on the water it was too late. It was horrible.

same, I'm 50 as well, and first time hearing about this too

Captain need wait for ticket less passengers to escape

That's crazy! My wife and I rewatched the Titanic recently (because, given recent events, how could you not?) and she told me about JJA's actor being in The Young and the Restless. That was days before I found out about the Wilhelm Gustloff. I just wiki'd him and it seems that he has high grade cancer of the bladder; much respect to the gentleman! As an aside, that sounds almost like the Sewol tragedy: the captain and 21 of 33 crew escaped, after telling a ship full of HS students/teachers to stay in their cabins. I think 304 out of 476 people perished, ~250 of whom were students.

How many collaborators were on board, versus how many true refugees? Is there any way to know? If it were a ship full of willing collaborators, I can't be that sad about them dying.

@@nathanjones6638 At that stage of the war, it would have been almost only women, children, elderly men and young boys on the ship. Also, do not be too quick to deal out death and judgement to all collaborators. Statistically speaking, you and your parents probably would have been much more likely to have been collaborators than heroes as well. I am not saying to forgive them, but remeber that the demand for vengeance is much of what enabled the rise of the nazis is the first place.

@@nathanjones6638 unless youre going to turn thst cold shoulder towards the soviet union also, then you should shut your evil ideologically possessed mouth.

How come the Germans in Prussia fled from the Soviets but the Germans in East Germany stayed put?

@@nathanjones6638 Collaborators? It was full of people on the German side, from pure Na$is to indifferent to antisemitism. People whom became in the wrong place & time.

Basically, yes. And this is still the biggest disaster in maritime history

The story of Titanic is titanic because someone wants to hide the real truth about how it was sunk.

@@naopak6750 how did it sink in reality?

@@bobsleigh9464 I don’t believe in most conspiracy theories but i do believe it’s easier to make people believe in a lie the bigger that lie is. A lot of government high officials were on the ship that didn’t agree on certain things with some other officials/non-officials who weren’t on the ship. I suggest you do some research and make your own opinion on the subject. The real question is whether you believe some people are capable of doing horrendous things for profit. And all the things they would do to cover it up.

Hero of the Soviet Union.

@@travistucker1033 disgusting, getting a medal for killing 9000 civilians

@@kerotomas1 Apparently Gorbachev had restored the posthumous title, but then, the SU collapsed in his lifetime, so...karma I guess.

​@@kerotomas1It was an act of war. Second of all, how could Marinesko have known that the Gustloff was packed with more than 10,000 people?

@@kerotomas1 Not all of them were civilians. Gustloff was carrying military personel, including high ranking officers (one of them being a Kriegsmarine Lieutenant Commander and submariner that argued that Gustloff should sail closer to the shore but was ultimately overruled by the ships civilian and original captain) and military equipment including but not limited to anti-aircraft guns. It was also not marked as a hospital ship and thus was a valid military target. And even if it hadn't and was full of nothing but civilians, this is the Russians vs Germans we're talking about. Neither side shied away from commiting absolutely heinous crimes against humanity against basically anyone with the Russians not even caring about their own people. So does it still surprise you that Marinesko got a medal, even if posthumously?

The Russians treated the Germans better than the Germans treated the Russians

Also I'm fairly certain it was armed and despite losing two of them, it had one transport vessel still escorting it. That transport vessel did it's best to pick up survivors out of the water. Weird that a channel this professional would get important facts wrong.

The Russians deliberately targeted it KNOWING it was vast majority civilians onboard. This is unjustifiable.

But there the problem was that it carried some civilians too, like he said was that it also had civilians onboard.

@@Unknown-rm8zp military ships carry civilians all the time. They weren’t on a family cruise. They were refugees on the run. On a ship previously used for military operations. Don’t get me wrong It’s absolutely terrible what happened to them.

@@Unknown-rm8zp Than it was a crime committed by the German military personnel who let civilians on board an active military ship in the middle of a warzone.

@@Unknown-rm8zp yet there are numerous other incidents of mass civilian ships sunk Lithutania off the north west irish coast was another well known one This too carried ammunition in large quantities

@@Unknown-rm8zp it carried mostly civilians

Wow. Guess it’s quite sad. Being in a film about a tragedy but suffering a tragedy 6 times as worse

It was what happened afterward. The fallout of the Titanic disaster was like a domino effect. It had a huge impact on the shipping industry, and safety regulations for passenger ships, as a whole! And it doesn’t help that the Gustloff sank in the middle of wartime. Many people believed the Germans just got their karma, considering the Gustloff at the time, wasn’t a passenger ship. And did have military personnel aboard. But I personally don’t agree with that. Most of the deaths on the Gustloff were refugees, mainly women and children, who wanted no part in the war. So why should they have to suffer for one man’s stupidity, you know?! Anyway, the Gustloff, the Mona Páz, both maritime disasters with a horrifyingly high loss of life is definitely something that we as a society should know, or at least acknowledge. However, those disasters didn’t have the same impact on history as the Titanic. We don’t remember the Titanic from how many lives were lost. We remember what the disaster instilled for us. All maritime disasters, regardless of loss of life, should be remembered. At least, to honor those who died. 🥺🙏🏻😔

@@nightsofthefilms Very enlightening, I genuinely love learning about what happened in the past and I learnt a lot from this. Thanks. Also, yes, we should remember these tragedies and the innocent people who died because of them.

nor would your comment. fate is certainly weird

same

Tell me your grandparents were Nazis without telling me your grandparents were Nazis

@@eqborn You realize most of the passengers were civilians and families and there were a lot of people who were against/didn't support the Nazis in the german population? People couldn't openly criticise the Nazis because it was too dangerous for them but there were a lot who didn't support them.

@@Zeder95 on an exclusive ship like the Hindenburg? Assumingly wealthy people on a new type of aircraft aren't generally fighting the government. It was likely good riddance

This ship did have soldiers on board. The narrator clearly told a story about a German soldier killing his family as it was sinking.

The ship had soldiers on board and also had flak guns (when the narrator said it didnt, he 100% lied).

Danke. Vaterland. Russia refers to their land as motherland.

They supported though

Titanic 2?! Dafuq?

@@randied603 I swear if that mother fker gets sanked by a ice burg there finna be a problem

He was a hero!

Are you sure they're bones? Bones don't last very long in sea water.

@@Nate-bn5kk not salt water brackish water. And yes there are X hundred year old human remains in a lot of wrecks of the Baltic ocean!

You are merciless, but right. There is always such a little sigh of relief if finally someone really knows the facts. Well, the big majority of the Silesians headed directly to the west, not to the north. Even today, most of their descendants are living deep inland, in Southern Germany, whilst Pomeranians and East Prussians preferred to stay in the north. If it was possible, they even tried to settle down in landscapes that resembled their lost home countries. But of course, they weren't welcome anywhere. Nobody was eager to share their rooms and beds with those strangers from far away.