I did some more tinkering with things. Turns out AT02 Grenade actually does more damage over a 2 min period than Deathfire with the same skill points (12) and DMG Gem level. Deathfire = 9.6 Total DMG to AT02's 10.3%. I was using an extra CDR gem instead thinking more uptime meant more total damage with Cruel Tracker. But I was able to consistently do 28.3 - 28.7 million dps with that one change and my initial standard build I was running in this vod. Then instead of the Chain Throw tripod in Deathfire for more burst damage you can do a lvl 5 Flame Bomb tripod for more total damage. DMG Gems 7m = Desperado > Meteor Stream > Equilibrium > Quick Shot > AT02 Grenade > Cruel Tracker > Deathfire CDR Gems = Desperado > Meteor Stream > Equilibrium > Quickshot / Grenade Also, if counters are important and you want the lvl 4 tripod in Enforced Execution for easier counter then pull it out of Deathfire instead of Grenade. Then if you are running Raid Captain build with Spiral you can consider substituting Grenade in for Deathfire when you don't want to use the Push Immunity on Deathfire. This also gives you 100% uptime on your Crit Syn since you'd have both Spiral and Grenade adding the Crit Syn to the boss. In T4 I'm also noticing people doing the Cursed Doll + Mass Increase stack then try to makeup for the attack speed sluggishness with Galewinds in Cruel Tracker and Equilibrium instead. Then with the extra CDR gems give this helps makeup for the loss of having Quick Recharges and Conviction/Judgment. I'm assuming I won't like the way it feels to do that, as I'm more focused on gameplay feel vs. min/maxing a burst rotation. But just sharing the info as I come across it. Example T4 build from the top ranked Pistoleer in Korea: loawa.com/char/%EC%A7%80%ED%98%84%EC%9A%B0
when I used to play pistoleer i also tinkered a lot with the build to see just how much dmg u could squeeze out with the setup, and even with these improvements I still believe you can make some other changes to squeeze out even more. Most notably being swapping cruel tracker for deathfire, and changing the meteor stream 3rd row tripod to bombardment, which awards an extra 20% dmg over the other tripod (at the cost of a slower animation). Also an interesting thing to consider with pistoleer is the idea that all skills in the game with 2 charges operate as follows: so long as you use the first charge, you can't actually lower that cooldown anymore by using the second charge. I say this because I notice that you are using the 2nd charge of Desperado sometimes while you have other skills already off cooldown waiting to be used, and playing like this actually lowers your overall dps. Highly recommend using the second charge of desperado only when you don't have any other buttons to press. So there is definitely a considerable amount more damage left on the table if you want it. Hope this helps.
P.S. I highly recommend not running mass increase on classes that aren't atk spd capped, and even more so if you decide to play with deathfire and the bombardment meteor stream tripod
@@coltomanderson9835 Thanks for taking the time to share all of this. Usually I try to use the 2nd Desperado charge within the Judgment window, but I didn't think about the 1st one not starting it's CD until that one finishes. I'll try to implement holding off on that for moments of desync. The Bombardment Support is definitely something I keep coming back to considering. I believe it also helps with spacebar desync since it's a multi-hit as well. Then it may also be more Stagger. Just the slow animation is risky since it locks you in place for a longer period for end game stuff. In a real raid scenario how many of these do you have to cancel out of or miss cause the boss moves vs. the other. Since I run the bible I'll try to test this in next weeks raid nights on him and compare it to this weeks.
Gems + Priority Order = DMG: Desperado > Meteor Stream > Equilibrium > Quickshot > Grenade > Deathfire > Cruel Tracker CDR: Desperado > Meteor Stream > Equilibrium > Quickshot Whatever my gems are in this video have changed to the above if they don't line up.
Is Spec+Swift on bracelet just a comfort move? I've been looking at KR deadeyes and other guides show full Spec+Crit is the build, but see alot of people using swift on bracelet instead of crit.
Great question, so there's some complexity around the choices based on engravings and the quality of your Crit neck. But I personally have 95% crit self buffed without Crit stat on my bracelet cause I run Precise 4% on it. You technically could run higher, but I want a little swift to help (what little it does) with skill desync and smoothing out the spells more. In T4, with higher CDR gems and Mass Increase plus Cursed Doll being changed to Additional DMG. It will likely be meta to do spec/swift neck (to remove mass increase sluggishness) and spec/Crit bracelet with precise to make up for loss of crit on the neck. That's what I'll be looking to test when we get T4 anyway . But with a Pistoleer of you aren't critting you aren't doing any DMG. So you try to cover your ass if you don't get another Crit syn in your party since you are the Crit syn.
Are you using the lvl 5 tripod in the first row for attack speed? You should only do the push immunity one in that line if you're worried about gravity death (like on Thaemine G3). Then legendary Galewind as well. Then if you're running Mass Increase (which I wouldn't recommend) it can make it incredibly sluggish regardless of those two changes.
@@nullen ahh yea i am using tenacity ill try switching tripods to see how it feels and im also running mass yea only downside i personally have with it was the df animation being so long
@@RainColathat'll definitely help, but mass increase makes the kit feel so much more sluggish overall. Like Meteor Stream and Cruel Tracker feel bad too. It's why I don't recommend it over Cursed Doll. You should swap it with the engraving support so you can exp the diff. To me, Pistoleer is all about smooth and satisfying gameplay. So min/maxin 1% for sluggishness doesn't make sense. That may change with T4 though so we'll see.
@@nullen i used to run cursed doll switched to mass a few months ago and i get what you mean with sluggish buy ive gotten used to it now sand all the casting time of abilities arent that slow thh only deathfire is sluggish iwas even thinking if switching to raid captain as well
@@RainCola The downside of Raid Captain is that you face Spiral and Spacebar De-sync during your rotation. So you have to be really conscious of it. The extra CDR with T4 gems may actually make it easier to manage so I'll definitely be testing it out cause it's technically more damage. Then you can also swap Grenade in for Deathfire when running Spiral, which is pretty chill.
@@jimnguyen809 If you watch just a little bit farther I address that and fix that for the other runs as someone pointed it out on the livestream. Timestamp -- 2:45
