86 feet ….People are complaining about 86 feet ? …..Relative to other transit systems in the US ,this station isn’t that deep , on the east coast it’s not uncommon to have underground rail stations that are almost 200 ft underground , that said ,the problem here isn’t the depth of the station , it’s the efficiency of the methods used to transport people from street level to platform level
80 feet isnt bad. Tokyo have OOEDO LINE, deepest train stations around Tokyo. its not one station, all stations are deep underground. need to go down 3 floors to the platform. but in case of mega earthquakes, it supposed to function and protect people, and use as shelter. another good example id metro in Moscow, Russia.
You guys wanted the single bore so santa clara wouldn't be torn up. This is what you guys chose and honestly 80 feet isn't as deep as the central subway at powell street in SF. Stop complaining 🙄.
Only 50 steps? Some people are way too lazy and will make up any excuse to cancel something even mildly disruptive or different from what they are used to.
The real story here is they could have bored 2 standard smaller tunnels side-by-side that would have been less deep and more convenient for everyone ...but a few small businesses complained because that would have required more digging and temporary street closures.
They complained they didn’t want cut and cover to disrupt the street above.. so BART & VTA comes up with a single bore tunnel that has to be extremely deep… still complaining 😂 Make up y’all mines. Honestly, they should just do the cut and cover and have different crews working 24/7 to speed up the construction. Use the extra money to pay for all the businesses that will loose money during the construction.
True as the same with L.A. Metro that got 1 billion to speed up the work so that they can have the Olympics. As they same for Bart so that it doesn't go into 2034 for the opening date of service. Just like what happened to the Berryessa and North San Jose line that should have open 2017 but no it open in 2020. Bart should get billions to speed up the work as well of extending further into South San Jose area to for that extra. But no telling how that's going to be in the future.
You still have to cut and cover where the stations are located regardless. As an NHL fan, I have major concerns about Diridon station because it's right next to SAP Center and it's connected to the rest of Diridon (aka the Grand Central of the West). Honestly, I like the idea of BART going through Downtown San Jose for SJSU students to commute by BART like UC Berkley students do now, gives NHL fans (mainly from Oakland, East Bay suburban cities, and Contra Costa County) the option to travel to SAP Center by BART instead of driving the nearly gridlocked freeways.
@@zanemarte9877 The entire route under Downtown San Jose should of remained cut & cover. Businesses and certain groups complained about the construction disrupting daily lives for years. Soo VTA & BART came up with this single bore tunnel to not disturb the streets above, but it came as a cost of smaller platforms and a deeper tunnel. Now other people and groups are complaining the tunnel too deep????? If isn’t one thing, it’s another🤦🏾♂️
@@IGtyi39AL78F56 As much as I like to have BART that far south or even connect to light rail in Winchester, it's not going to happen because capacity can only go so far up, and even with the idea of BART having the ultimate goal of over 1,000 cars to a total of 100 trains with 10 cars the system won't have the capacity to handle all those people.
@@zanemarte9877 San Jose Area isn't that big anyways like L.A. Area is as of L.A. Metro. They talk about having go to Gilroy and Monterey Area way later on as of they will probably go locomotive trains like EBart did of a cheaper capacity.
They should make like the downtown Oakland stations for it to be much safer when earthquakes happens and malfunction happens and better evacuation plans.
In russia stations run up to 250-300 feet deep, in Washington dc theres stations that range up to 150 feet deep, in london all the deep level tube lines average 60-80 feet and some only have stairs and elevators so these ppl literally sound lazy, the chances that all elevators and escalators stop working at once is so low so wtf they sound rediculous
The new LIRR stations (8 tracks) under Grand Central Station NYC, are an average 140' below grade. Because there are two different platform levels, this distance varies. What's wrong with you people, have you not heard of escalators and elevators?
Doubtful that would be the case. The Google development is moving forward and another thing too the stations have connections to San Jose State University which would give students another option for commute to the main campus, the rest of Diridon station, SAP Center (home of NHL's San Jose Sharks), ACE, Caltrain, and Amtrak.
The escalators, elevators will be filled with human feces, needles and whatever else drug is available. Also, great place for drug addicts to sleep on those long train rides.
If they think that’s deep, wait until they go to Forest Glen station and Wheaton station here on the DC metro Red Line. Forest Glen is 196 ft deep, and it only has high speed elevators. And Wheaton is 145 and contains the longest set of escalators in the Western Hemisphere. They go straight from the surface to the mezzanine. So stop complaining about 86 ft.
Rosslyn station on DC Metro is 103 ft below street level. It’s not a big deal. Commuters adapt. They’ve done it for 45 years…even if there’s an escalator/elevator outage.
@William Hummel lol agreed!! Those escalators spell death if you attempt to slide down that rail 😂😂!! Imagine days where the entire station has no escalators running.
If you ride on Bart ,the Majority of the time the escalators are broken down for days .. Not only does it takes days and weeks to repair them in my 45 yrs of riding Bart I’ve never seen all running escalators at any station good luck 👍🏻
@@da9856 well you're complaining about something off-topic on a video about VTA/Bart. So any gripes about what San Jose needs to fix can be directed to San Jose's virtual city hall meetings during public commenting and NOT on a video about VTA/Bart because as i said, IT'S NOT THEIR JOB!!!
First off why isn’t this a dual bore system with cut and cover stations. Like every other modern system in this country and the rest of Bart’s underground tracks.
Good point. I've been riding BART for decades and can never remember an escalator being broken ...then again people tell me I don't have a very good memory 😂
Um, once you get on this train in SJ how many days will it take you to get to SF? And, given that this train stops in that sh*thole of a city called Oakland, how many people will actually make it to SF alive?
The green line goes from North San Jose to Daly City. If you're on the orange line instead, the transfer station (blue, green and orange lines) is Bay View in San Leandro. The last time I took BART, it was 45 minutes to get from Fremont to San Francisco in January 2020. Bring ear plugs. BART trains are LOUD.
@@CDReimer I suggest you review a BART map. The Green line does not go “directly” to Daly City. It makes multiple stops along the way, including Oakland. Hence, my tongue-in-cheek posting.
@@TheLIRRFrenchie... Sorry, but I am correct. The green line does not go “directly “ to DC. It makes multiple stops along the way. “Directly” implies zero stops. And, have you ever taken BART from SJ to SF? It takes forever.
They complain about 86ft? thats nothing. to get to the subway i have to walk 5 city blocks. not to mention getting down all this "tiresome" steps. thats WAY more than 86ft for me. and i walk with a fricking cane!!!
There are some things you gonna have to put up with because Bart is doing something that they've never done before with the approval of boring machines and a overunder station platform design this has never be done before in United States let alone Bart so put up with it don't complain about it there's nothing you can do it's out of people's control and whining about it it's not gonna help
there are "automatic lifter" that one can install at the staircase for wheelchair people (it is slower than the elevator of course), so this is not really an issue.
wow... whining about that??! be GRATEFUL you're even getting a BART station! dang. smh. And, like they pointed out- we been doing that in SF for decades no prob. deal with it, "Silicon Valley."
They have to. There's geologic standards that contractors have to follow to withstand a big earthquake. We don't know how big the next earthquake will be nor when it will take place, but the important thing to think about when it comes to construction is the structural integrity of the stations.
@@zanemarte9877 True if people don't get barricade all that concrete in which that is going to happen and fires and being crush. Safety is very important.
They need to add air trees water and creek and water authority trails and bike trails. Its not difficult if you know how to build more than walls and doorways.
Let’s hope to gosh it’s able to shake rattle and roll when the big one comes... 2028?!? 2030?!? What will the world even be like then?! Will a world even still exist? Will we even still exist??? Yikes!
I guess you can thank trump for those bonds budgets that stretched twenty years so our country can build and grow without debt and loans and infighting and organized crime.
