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Critikal vs. Sneako | TBH EP 31 

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TBH EP 31 Featuring: ‪@colossaliscrazy‬ ‪@nerdcity‬ ‪@Pyrocynical‬ ‪@DolanDarker‬
Topics: Sneako vs Critikal | The Trans Debate | Kris Ava Tyson | The Shadman Logs/ List | Absolute drivel
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@TBHpodcast
@TBHpodcast Месяц назад
If ever there was an episode not friendly for RU-vid, it's probably this one. Hope you enjoy 🥳 Also be sure to check out the patreon for exclusive episodes and other slop: www.patreon.com/TBHPodcast
@JokeURL
@JokeURL Месяц назад
ok
@barny541
@barny541 Месяц назад
"ok" 🤓👍
@doctordiscord8063
@doctordiscord8063 Месяц назад
​@@barny541 don't be mean, it's mean
@barny541
@barny541 Месяц назад
Btw don't worry I'll reupload it for the boys back home
@absolutelyscrumptious7552
@absolutelyscrumptious7552 Месяц назад
Genuine thing I would like to mention to you guys Obviously, you make the podcast long before you post it to RU-vid. Naturally, things on the internet develop and change quickly, so I was wondering if it would be possible to add some text that says what day the podcast was recorded. So that way, people don't come at you guys for saying things that were said before a developing situation changes entirely. IE: Last episode how you, Nerd, were attacked for your comments; And even this one with Colossal's... Insistence for a cut and dry yes or no
@robotjox77
@robotjox77 Месяц назад
Remember, every hotel room has a Sneako chair.
@KATinBLACK
@KATinBLACK Месяц назад
It used to be called the Destiny chair, which sounds more like a euphemism, but now it has a more appropriate name
@n0siiide
@n0siiide Месяц назад
It makes sense that sneako is a cuck, his girlfriend's too old for him
@moongoalie2410
@moongoalie2410 Месяц назад
@@KATinBLACKno no, it’s still very much Destiny’s chair. Don’t try to skew this narrative because someone just as pathetic exists.
@moongoalie2410
@moongoalie2410 Месяц назад
I still reserve that Steven would be more inclined to fit that chair.
@cdogthehedgehog6923
@cdogthehedgehog6923 Месяц назад
Sneako chair 😂😂
@freakcree6218
@freakcree6218 Месяц назад
pyrocynical forced to have a single opinion, shuts down
@bigbosslackers
@bigbosslackers Месяц назад
Next he'll quit the podcast like his idol Charles "Styrofoam" White
@javi4372
@javi4372 Месяц назад
Moon shaped pool is such a good album
@axaide4210
@axaide4210 Месяц назад
The cr1tikal disease, many such cases
@twistedgamer238
@twistedgamer238 Месяц назад
The Clown scares him
@quazar_76
@quazar_76 Месяц назад
Pyrocynical situation is insane
@leukashot123
@leukashot123 Месяц назад
Pyro can never be insecure, having liking fat farting animals be released about you would make anyone invincible after a while
@redwiltshire1816
@redwiltshire1816 Месяц назад
Why couldn’t he like something normal like tall dark hair busty vampire mommy GF
@lavarov4585
@lavarov4585 Месяц назад
He's insecure enough to not talk about his stance on kids transitioning tho
@apeaape
@apeaape Месяц назад
@@lavarov4585 I mean he's a RU-vidr thinking of his fanbase. It's easy for clown to demand yes/no answers when he doesn't fucking make videos.
@RealMephres
@RealMephres Месяц назад
@@lavarov4585 it's a nuanced topic when it comes to the condition and he knows how uneducated and toxic people on the internet are lol he's fine here
@solanumtuberosa
@solanumtuberosa Месяц назад
Or maybe its a coping mechanism, the hairline proves it
@53hank
@53hank Месяц назад
sneako is definition of "if she can bleed she can breed", i got my first period at 11 bro
@ZombiebyProxy
@ZombiebyProxy Месяц назад
9. Buddy of mine was 8 when hers started.
@eyalamit5120
@eyalamit5120 Месяц назад
​@@ZombiebyProxy It can happen that early!?
@SaturnSicko
@SaturnSicko Месяц назад
​@eyalamit5120 yes and sometimes when a period starts that early they put you on puberty blockers to delay it
@tylerwood2980
@tylerwood2980 Месяц назад
Fake and gay. Women do not listen to this podcast
@Arreyuh
@Arreyuh Месяц назад
@@eyalamit5120yep, Mine was so bad I was on birth control at age 12 to regulate it
@Phentem2
@Phentem2 Месяц назад
Shocker, the Cuties lover doesn’t believe the Age of consent
@FaceBack18
@FaceBack18 Месяц назад
If you think Cuties is the worst, then you probably haven’t heard of Maladolescenza. Pray you haven’t, I wish I hadn’t, either.
@SciRuler
@SciRuler Месяц назад
@@FaceBack18sneako is bad cuties is bad maladolescenza is bad 'nuff said.
@NotRxzzerr
@NotRxzzerr Месяц назад
If someone supports Cuties, their opinion is instantly irrelevant and meaningless .
@hxyri
@hxyri Месяц назад
why you have a calculator pfp
@MyaB1986
@MyaB1986 Месяц назад
Well critical said trans surgery of children is fine...so there's that
@Beckzyy
@Beckzyy Месяц назад
these comments are perfectly reflective of the reason pyro chooses to avoid being opinionated. He speaks the least and he gets rinsed for not being vocal enough and not giving his opinion. He talks the most, he gets rinsed for giving his opinion (not even a controversial one, a very sane one), especially on such a sinuous topic that isnt as simple as 'yes or no'. god forbid someone withhold their judgement and opinions because they know they arent informed enough to form a final conclusion lmao. maybe you lot should do the same
@l-e-v-117
@l-e-v-117 Месяц назад
Based comment
@youtubesucks9539
@youtubesucks9539 Месяц назад
Unlucky
@m7mad182
@m7mad182 Месяц назад
He would've been informed if he cared. I hate people who don't give an answer WAY more than the ones who do
@kuy3796
@kuy3796 Месяц назад
Very based comment
@JustCobaltVA
@JustCobaltVA Месяц назад
Funny enough Nerd does the samething, even more than Pyro, and he still gets shit more often than not.
@cady__
@cady__ Месяц назад
Daddy want mint mint ?
@mongeeses7112
@mongeeses7112 Месяц назад
Listen, I get where Pyro is coming from. I actually agree with him for the most part, but holy crap is he bad at articulating his point. His opinion, and more or less mine, is: “Medical transition, particularly affirming surgeries, can be an amazing thing for the right people, and I hope it is made accessible to people who genuinely need it. However since children may not fully understand the full extent of surgeries, I’m unsure whether or not they should be legal. Unfortunately, there are people who regret surgery, because they didn’t fully realize the extent of their decisions. Whatever the case, people should have an unbiased third-party evaluate their decision, as self-identity is a complicated.” Legit that’s not that controversial of a take and shouldn’t be that hard to say. I don’t wanna dunk on Pyro, I don’t even watch him. Since I, as well as many people, have that or a similar opinion it sucks to see him fumble so hard. (Also yeah I know that the opinion is a long way of saying “idk”. That’s kinda the point. These are just the reasons why we’re uncertain. Life is complicated and nuanced. We’re not experts.)
@kuy3796
@kuy3796 Месяц назад
THIS, THIS IS THE COMMENT, THAT'S EXACTLY IT
@Cheesewheel_1
@Cheesewheel_1 Месяц назад
At least from my knowledge, this is more or less the take that most medical associations take on the matter (at least here in the states)
@MintBunHunter
@MintBunHunter Месяц назад
If asked the theoretical problem, this would be a reasonable answer. The question however stands for the legality, and it is too vague for that. What experts/unbiased third party are we talking about? Psychologists absolutely can be biased, and this basically shifts the responsibility of the choice on the “third party”. A clear law would obviously do some harm, but isn’t “better safe than sorry”? Life is complicated and nuanced, and unfortunately oftentimes the nuances are left unaccounted for. Zooming out though, i absolutely see why the guy’s answer was this vague and i don’t blame him. Better safe than sorry here, too
@bugfriendz
@bugfriendz Месяц назад
people don't realize that this sort of transitional care comes in lesser forms as well, surgery is the thing you get after being on treatment for at least a good year (and, likely more) - you have plenty of time to make that decision based on how you feel about your body in the first place, they don't just put you under the knife immediately. surgery isn't going to change your vocal inflection or change your facial hair, it is the end-point of a long process. they should be allowed to stop at any time, and the negative effects on pedatric growth always should be considered. they should explore social avenues first to see if it feels right, and then go down the list if they choose to continue it.
@archive3339
@archive3339 Месяц назад
also if you do any amount of further research youll find that surgery AND hrt are illegal for MOST people under 18 in nearly every country on earth unless you are in EXCEPTIONAL circumstances. If someone thinks they are trans before 18 they MIGHT get to go on puberty blockers which allow them to postpone the hell of going through the "wrong" puberty until they are 18 when they can choose to start hrt/ have surgery if they want to, and something like over 80% of people who start puberty blockers go on to continue their transition which is often presented as a negative even though its not a negative its literally the whole purpose of the puberty blockers in the first place
@strandedstoodios
@strandedstoodios Месяц назад
HONEY WAKE UP!!! THIS YEARS TBH EPISODE CAME OUT!! LAST YEARS WAS SO GOOD!!!
@barny541
@barny541 Месяц назад
NEXT YEAR WILL BE PEAK TOO!!!
@TJOEL20
@TJOEL20 Месяц назад
We’ll get GTA VI before we get the next TBH
@yeetusbeetus8133
@yeetusbeetus8133 Месяц назад
People criticizing pyro for “fence sitting” when it’s an actual complex issue that may require more thought than “yes or no” is kinda insane
@samanthasmith733
@samanthasmith733 Месяц назад
Can children consent to going on a school field trip? Leaving school early? Having sex? Leaving school on a different bus? No? Sex change operations? ✅️ Give me a break lol. If it weren't a brownie points issue, absolutely NO ONE, including you, would have this opinion 💀
@CharityApple07
@CharityApple07 Месяц назад
​@@samanthasmith733 ​​​Except he didn't say yes. He didn't say no. It's a complex topic with a complex answer and many more nuanced details and variables than just a headline question of "should kids get surgery that change body and not undo?" Ages have to be taken into account and further future issues that can arise from simply barring people off from an age that isn't even specifically declared by saying "children", including what forms of surgery. Is this about bottom surgery? Top surgery? What forms of those surgeries-vaginoplasty? Metoidioplasty? Double mastectomy? Breast augmentation? What about surgery to remove cancerous parts of the body? Surgery to simply fuse bones after an accent? I got that one done when I was just about to turn 14. This isn't even to mention that most of the "trans" surgeries are performed in greater quantity on cis people for genital reconstruction or to fight cancer or even reduce back pain, like with double mastectomies, let alone that only a small handful of trans people actually undergo these procedures compared to the entire trans population. I'm a trans girl and I definitely don't want to go through vaginoplasty or any similar process. Currently, in most major countries, children cannot undergo elective irreversible medical procedures (of most types, stuff like breast augmentation is still weirdly permitted to girls under the age of even 17, at least in some parts of the US), including (and especially) gender affirming surgery, whether that be top surgery or bottom surgery. It is illegal, regardless of what surgeons violated that legality in the past.
@omarsabir1210
@omarsabir1210 Месяц назад
Mucho texto ​@@CharityApple07
@samanthasmith733
@samanthasmith733 Месяц назад
@@CharityApple07 Yeah I'm not reading all that. The question is whether children should be able to undergo surgery, and the answer is no. Also, there's no nuance between the different surgeries other than in targets certain body parts. What, so children shouldn't be able to sign off on regular surgeries independently permission, but with this there's "nuance??" 😂 So what if it's illegal now? The point of asking the questions is that some people do think it should be legal. Who exactly are you responding to? You barely addressed anything I said, just went on a tangent about being trans.
@samanthasmith733
@samanthasmith733 Месяц назад
Ah, I see my original comment under this was deleted. Nice. It's always the trans issues, isn't it? So strong and independent, and yet so fragile and thin-skinned when confronted with basic arguments. I wasn't even insulting or anything. That kind of BS is what gets you transphobia, just so you know....
@Kaileeee17
@Kaileeee17 Месяц назад
Colossal being unable to understand this conversion has a lot more nuance than a simple yes or no answer is pretty revealing
@franzsebas2009
@franzsebas2009 22 дня назад
Collosal was not taking their lukewarm responses and I admire that.
@widecat1404
@widecat1404 Месяц назад
I dont think it's unreasonable that pyro gave a complicated answer to a complicated issue.
@nickurban6201
@nickurban6201 Месяц назад
I don't think he gave a complicated answer. I think he repeated himself, avoided the question and beat around the bush a lot to avoid offending his audience (which he implies with his example of the fan meetup). Although I respect people that have some spine, state their views and let their audience judge them for who they are, if Pyro wanted to avoid giving an answer he simply could have been to be the point and stated that he's not comfortable having a take on the topic.
@goopguy548
@goopguy548 Месяц назад
​@@nickurban6201he said, in short, with therapy and holes you have to jump through, you should be able to do it before 18. a 16 year old who has already gone through 2 years of therapy should be able to get surgery with a regret rate of 1%. they should be able to do hormone blockers and HRT. he just used a lot of words to say "yes with guild lines and oversight"
@KappaChiino
@KappaChiino Месяц назад
@@nickurban6201 I wouldn't say so really, yes he was uncomfortable with the topic but he had the same answer as I would have had. It is very complicated, there is no black and white.
@MasqueradePW
@MasqueradePW Месяц назад
@@nickurban6201 People's minds don't work in binary; not everything in life is as simple as yes or no, especially not mental health topics. Fitting people into pre-conceived boxes will only lead to frustration and dissatisfaction.
@saadtariq5070
@saadtariq5070 Месяц назад
fuck me ive never heard pyro talk so much to say nothing at all
@dominiciannucci5217
@dominiciannucci5217 Месяц назад
He is trying to say his own opinion without alienating his fans that are in the trans group.
@autoporridge
@autoporridge Месяц назад
@@dominiciannucci5217 it would make no fuckin' sense anyway since he employs them. If he hated them he wouldn't interact with them period.
@FaceBack18
@FaceBack18 Месяц назад
Yappocynical.
@infsm27
@infsm27 Месяц назад
I think what he's saying makes plenty of sense
@JESUSB08
@JESUSB08 Месяц назад
@@autoporridgedoesn’t matter
@noclip_thru
@noclip_thru Месяц назад
children cannot consent
@javsw.1878
@javsw.1878 Месяц назад
They absolutely can, it depends on what the thing they would be asked to consent to
@gramgram11
@gramgram11 Месяц назад
@@javsw.1878 weirdo
@jesss101
@jesss101 Месяц назад
@@javsw.1878 children do not have the mental or emotional development to consent to serious things. dating, drugs, tattoos... children cannot consent because they are not mature enough to know the ramifications of their actions.
@moogleboy
@moogleboy Месяц назад
@@javsw.1878 You know why you needed a permission slip to go on a field trip in elementary school? Because children cannot consent. If we can't trust a child to consent on whether or not they want to go on a school function, then we can't trust a child consent to anything.
@shrisiva4016
@shrisiva4016 Месяц назад
@@jesss101 That's why medical professionals are used for puberty blockers
@nanofrostt.6768
@nanofrostt.6768 Месяц назад
As a canadian who has worked with trans minors and around the transition process a gp like nerd said can only do affirming care but they have to send you to both a psychiatrist and therapist who specializes in care of lgbt individuals and both your psychiatrist and therapist have to clear you mentally fit to make the decision as a minor you can't get the surgery but they can start you on hormone blockers at 13 with parental permission and since transitioning isn't a medical surgery it's not covered by our free health care so most people can't even afford it anyways and the hormones are a month thing so to even to be able to get it by 13 price aside you'd have to be in therapy and seeing a psychiatrist since you were about 6 or 7 and have and be mentally fit for at least a year and a half to two years and after starting hormone blockers you'd still have to see both professionals for the whole time you're on the blockers till 18 or you stop taking them so it really more depends on your doctors more than your parents
@nanofrostt.6768
@nanofrostt.6768 Месяц назад
My personal opinion not that anyone cares is that all cosmetic surgeries, serving, marriage, sex, and non medical drug intake should be 21-25 considering the brain doesn't finish till developing then. Whether or not you physically transition does not change if you're trans there are plenty of people who are trans who don't want the surgery it really isn't a mandatory to being trans.
@blobbbe
@blobbbe Месяц назад
try seperating your thoughts into sentences next time
@Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh9
@Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh9 Месяц назад
Thank you for saying this!!
@Yuki_Seraphim
@Yuki_Seraphim Месяц назад
@@blobbbe bro, the comment is barely a paragraph long. Is your attention span really that cooked?
@blobbbe
@blobbbe Месяц назад
@@Yuki_Seraphim did i say it was too long? if you don’t punctuate sentences at all it makes you look like an idiot or a child, or an idiot child
@dyslexick
@dyslexick Месяц назад
Pyro went from roasting children, like Leafy did, to being scared of giving his own opinion.
@shrisiva4016
@shrisiva4016 Месяц назад
He's just following his moist idol by being a fence sitter
@FaceBack18
@FaceBack18 Месяц назад
"How's it going, everyone? Hermadaphrodite here."
@CarTM
@CarTM Месяц назад
No he didnt. Say it how it is. Pyro went from bullying kids to dressing up like a woman live.
@NerveApe1081
@NerveApe1081 Месяц назад
It’s a controversial time where expressing your opinions is a lose lose situation on all sides.
@-Markane-
@-Markane- Месяц назад
@@CarTM tbf he looked hot
@deadbyproxy_
@deadbyproxy_ Месяц назад
I don't understand this push for a 'yes' or 'no' Pyros explanations made perfect sense
@krostjani2574
@krostjani2574 Месяц назад
At this rate I’m becoming a hate listener
@lawmain2864
@lawmain2864 Месяц назад
Not really he just yapped mindlessly
@fattub5939
@fattub5939 Месяц назад
He said himself that if he leaned slightly on one side he would be labeled as supporting the extreme, clearly he has an opinion but he's just scared to alienate anyone
@shrisiva4016
@shrisiva4016 Месяц назад
Colossal is just being a dick
@JustCobaltVA
@JustCobaltVA Месяц назад
The original question by Clown was. "Can children be allowed to undergo surgery if the parents and the child consent to it?" And it's no, children cannot undergo that surgery they have to be an adult for that.
@AzraelSoulHunter
@AzraelSoulHunter Месяц назад
Lots of conflict here would be over if someone researched that this kind of surgery is not done on a minor and it takes years to get to that point.
@Awe391
@Awe391 Месяц назад
But must be angry 😡
@plight-tl8ec
@plight-tl8ec 6 дней назад
Right but their talking hypothetically about what SHOULD be done rather than what IS done. Same way Sneako is stating his (insane) opinion that kids SHOULD be able to consent to marriage, even though obviously they legally cannot
@sparkyboi4387
@sparkyboi4387 4 дня назад
Yeah Colossal made it completely obvious that he didn't research the topic at all from like the first minute
@barny541
@barny541 Месяц назад
I like how greasy and sweaty sneako looks in the thumbnail
@Jikuro_
@Jikuro_ Месяц назад
Not every question is as simple as a yes or no.
@Octanitrocubane-enjoyer
@Octanitrocubane-enjoyer Месяц назад
what? some things can be in between?? some things can’t be explained in 5 seconds??? get outta here lol
@Jikuro_
@Jikuro_ Месяц назад
@@Octanitrocubane-enjoyer fr 😭
@crunchbunchley8586
@crunchbunchley8586 Месяц назад
I first learned of trans-people when i was 5 years old "I said, okay that's cool" and i stopped thinking about it.
@pinkithink3757
@pinkithink3757 Месяц назад
Based normal human response
@archocystosyrinx
@archocystosyrinx Месяц назад
you know best
@Oscar-ek2jx
@Oscar-ek2jx Месяц назад
Probably because you were 5 and didn't know the full picture, which is what is being discussed in this podcast. I think everyone would prefer if it was as simple as being gay or something, where there arent serious ramifications when you're younger, but it isnt, and it needs to be discussed.
@crunchbunchley8586
@crunchbunchley8586 Месяц назад
Naw i knew the full ramifications because when i learned about it i learned about the surgery and the hormones and stuff. And yeah. I didn't care. I just thought it was kinda neat that people could do that. And i continued on with my life.
@raquetdude
@raquetdude Месяц назад
@@Oscar-ek2jxmore cis gender people take hormones than trans ppl… middle age women take hormones for their menopause and men such as Joe Rogan are taking testosterone to compensate for their lowing hormones. Young cis gender kids take hormone blockers for decades now when they have puberty start too early that it becomes a medical issue. Cis gender men, women and children take “trans medication”. Think teens should be able to take blockers and HRT (once medical professionals and therapists agree and family are consulted) government to allow for it to occur but can have oversight. Regarding surgery… if your nation can use ur body in the military then you can apply for whatever surgery’s you deem appropriate in my view. “I can get shot at by serving for my nation in the army but my nation can’t allow me x/y/z surgery for another 4 years…” Surgery should be allowed once ur an adult and you go through all the procedures (medical checks and therapy checks).
@Jonathin
@Jonathin Месяц назад
Dolan Carries as usual
@wormswithteeth
@wormswithteeth Месяц назад
*thanks for slopping by*
@cosmix1891
@cosmix1891 Месяц назад
Diddy vs critical
@williamevans7593
@williamevans7593 Месяц назад
diddy vs diddy
@kazekami5513
@kazekami5513 Месяц назад
diddy vs diddy
@WeedShaggy
@WeedShaggy Месяц назад
Diddy vs Bruce Jenner
@ursowrongwrongisaid
@ursowrongwrongisaid Месяц назад
I think I have a solution for age of consent and transition thing. It’s all about sex, so ban sex.
@waltch5711
@waltch5711 Месяц назад
B-but Sex With Hitler 2 is so much fun. What will I play if I can't play Sex With Hitler 2?
@crazisaturn2274
@crazisaturn2274 Месяц назад
​@@waltch5711😦
@MintBunHunter
@MintBunHunter Месяц назад
@@waltch5711 you play SWH 3
@ursowrongwrongisaid
@ursowrongwrongisaid Месяц назад
@mocha6145 True, but how about lie to everyone there’s no sex or gender at all, I think that might works as well. I mean, you can’t be upset about something you have no concept of, right?
@goopguy548
@goopguy548 Месяц назад
​@@ursowrongwrongisaidwe are already seeing that, it doesnt help trans people because it's body dysmorphia and nothing else. even if we lose the term for women they are still going to want to look like the opposite gender b
@Saltima225
@Saltima225 Месяц назад
I honestly think critikal just hasn't put any thought in the idea of transitioning and upon being pressed he chose what he thought was fine to say. I don't really believe him saying that on the spot he'd already know the age of what an SCO was and I could be wrong. It's obvious critikal was not prepared for the question and the backlash is extreme but it is a double standard for that debate. and now it's probably best for him to never bring it up again since he did clarify that he still thinks children are fine to undergo the processes (horomone treatments and such) to transition in that response he made if they and the parents consent.
@NakedSophistry
@NakedSophistry Месяц назад
Like anyone should be listening to him about something like this in the first place, he should have refused to answer. At least that would have been honest.
@Mitch93
@Mitch93 Месяц назад
Yeah, but the majority of people in the world are dead against children transitioning. When the TRA's tried to push this a few years ago, even other leftists vehemently attacked them over it. He basically said the fringe radical take, rather than the actual centrist take which is HELL NO.
@Alex-cp3ux
@Alex-cp3ux Месяц назад
"Alot of my fans are trans" so I'm going to avoid the question to not upset any type of demographic I am a fan of pyro I like him but he did dodge the question.
@kellevichy
@kellevichy Месяц назад
Or maybe he's heard their perspective and understands what they've shared with him and the things he's being asked, as said, cannot be answered with a yes or no :]
@masonmanuel1637
@masonmanuel1637 Месяц назад
@@kellevichylet’s be fucking for real he is terrified of offending these people, that’s it
@spikegamz2756
@spikegamz2756 Месяц назад
​@@masonmanuel1637 yeah he definitely knows how rabid and on his ass they would be trying to cancel him over having the normal and reasonable opinion that kids should not be getting an unnecessary surgery or taking hrt under 18
@ManHamOrigins
@ManHamOrigins Месяц назад
@@kellevichy Maybe he shouldn’t have cultivated a fanbase of troons in the first place
@thehistoricalgamer1960
@thehistoricalgamer1960 Месяц назад
@@spikegamz2756wow, ok buddy. Literally no one gets surgery as a minor and HRT is completely fine.
@BearAfterABear
@BearAfterABear Месяц назад
Is it ok to do crack ? Pyro : what do we think of it, guys ?
@jesss101
@jesss101 Месяц назад
Pyro: it's complicated like i don't know if i would do crack but i would ask around... i have a lot of fans who do crack so like maybe i'm biased
@KATinBLACK
@KATinBLACK Месяц назад
@@jesss101 he’s biased because he only does fent
@nutpeg6915
@nutpeg6915 Месяц назад
⁠ hed probably be roasted more for this fence sitting than the trans one
@Asrilel
@Asrilel Месяц назад
@@BearAfterABear its a very complicated topic and thefact that the situation was represented completely incorrectly didn’t make it easier
@prossnip42
@prossnip42 7 дней назад
If you're an adult and you wanna do crack you should be able to do crack. You should be able to do any drug you want legally once you're an adult. I am for legalizing all drugs completely because if Alcohol which is already worse than like half of banned drugs can be legal, so can other drugs
@x-77b11
@x-77b11 Месяц назад
dappy want mint mint
@ascendpilled
@ascendpilled 25 дней назад
nerd city don't have a meltdown challenge
@NotRxzzerr
@NotRxzzerr Месяц назад
Funny Woman Pills
@mirrorhymn
@mirrorhymn Месяц назад
i love women
@spaghetti0356
@spaghetti0356 Месяц назад
Lies, it doesn't make you funny (I tried :( )
@sawyboy6235
@sawyboy6235 Месяц назад
Got to be the most pyro thing I have ever heard
@spaghetti0356
@spaghetti0356 Месяц назад
@@sawyboy6235 Pyro wasn't there, it was his clone, Pybrocynical, Pyro would actually say "Le Funny Woman Pills".
@Mrwillyham
@Mrwillyham Месяц назад
@@spaghetti0356retard
@rocker6625
@rocker6625 Месяц назад
Pyro try to have an opinion challenge level impossible
@raquetdude
@raquetdude Месяц назад
Yeah cause this is definitely the place to have a conversation about the medical field stuff and the different understandings between American and British medicine regarding trans ppl with the differences between procedures and meds that are used by non trans people (hormone blockers and HRT and testosterone being used by more non trans ppl than trans ppl for instance) no shit. Surgery for trans people should be left till they are of the age to serve in the military, if you can die for ur nation you can medically do what you want with ur body (within legal means)
@Oceanman705
@Oceanman705 Месяц назад
almost like the trans issue is too nuanced for random youtubers to give an opinion
@rocker6625
@rocker6625 Месяц назад
@@Oceanman705 no matter how nuanced things are people are still allowed to have opinions
@elijahschmidt8382
@elijahschmidt8382 Месяц назад
Pyro is literally regarded, he said lava was valiantly defending Ava like wtf? He knows nothing about what he’s talking about. I can’t stand him
@rocker6625
@rocker6625 Месяц назад
@@elijahschmidt8382 I do really like pyro but he just didn’t answer a question this one podcast apart from that he is fine
@imagineexistance4538
@imagineexistance4538 Месяц назад
transfem here Literally just give informed consent and introspection. Adults are expected to do that before like any plastic surgery. Make sure the individual knows what they're getting into and can express their actual feelings with a professional away from external influence, like parents or such. But surgery is only really an option 2 years after hrt, which at max starts around 16 (when i got mine, before the clinic was closed due to conservative lawmakers) puberty blockers can prevent symptoms from getting worse if you're still in puberty, growing unwanted facial hair made me want to tear my face off. Puberty blockers are easy to reverse, and if somebody is forced to go down one puberty then they should get to choose at least.
@iamatypicalsheep
@iamatypicalsheep Месяц назад
It's just so wild to be straight and cis and never have that questioned because like.. you inherently know if you are cis and straight, right? But someone who isn't cis and/or straight has to "logically" just "wait it out" (to 25 apparently, lol?) because "your body changes." Like let me know when you grow out of your straightness, gang.
@BrainBurnStudios
@BrainBurnStudios Месяц назад
I've had an ex friend who wanted to get a leg lengthening surgery. He was in his twenties. That's insane.
@fungillooo
@fungillooo Месяц назад
Can relate with the leg lengthening thing, got rid of the urge and snapped out of it but still coping with being 5’1
@kidneystoner9452
@kidneystoner9452 Месяц назад
Learning to live with yourself without envy for others is not coping, it's the opposite in fact. You're doing good bro.
@jamesreagan8175
@jamesreagan8175 Месяц назад
5’3” here, it’s a much better life to just accept your manlet physique without adopting the manlet mindset
@fungillooo
@fungillooo Месяц назад
May or may not add I’m woman moment unfortunately
@kidneystoner9452
@kidneystoner9452 Месяц назад
@fungillooo 'Unfortunately I am woman' 😂 5'1 is fine for a woman, you have nothing to worry about.
@AfroJ03
@AfroJ03 Месяц назад
6'1" here. You can just borrow my shoulders. Live that 9 foot life!
@dogandcat3672
@dogandcat3672 Месяц назад
A good thing about trans affirming care is that it is not black and white. There are many options before any permanent change. There is social transitioning where a kid is called by their preferred pronous, possibly even dressing up differently or changing their name. There is also hornone blockers to prevent puberty, it doesn't cause permanent damage and halts unwanted changes like mammary growth or hair on various body parts. This can be very stressful for a trans kid and gives them more time to think. Like this unwanted growth can cause sh or life ending thoughts. Because puberty is also a permanent change and requires medical help to reverse. Voice training can also help with sounding more masc or fem without the need of hormone medication. In all, I believe as a trans man that kids should be allowed to medically transition after heavily consulting with their medical professional, getting multiple opinions from others, and should be at the min min 16. With the reasoning being life or death. Many other trans people also agree with taking hormone blockers and waiting till old enough. A convo about a blanket statement of yes or no by 4 cis straight men that barely know the topic is very silly. 😅
@cly_
@cly_ Месяц назад
Childhood transition is like childhood ADHD. Not getting proper treatment can fuck your entire life up. But, doctors did use to massively overprescribe ADHD to any slightly energetic kid, and give them Adderall, which would fuck up those kids. The solution was ultimately to sharpen the edges of what ADHD was, and improve the diagnosis process.
@jesss101
@jesss101 Месяц назад
i can partly agree with this. the "affirmation model" of gender treatment is shit. medical professionals need to get back to what matters- dysphoria. and determining if the dysphoria is caused by being trans or something else. but also, i grew up with undiagnosed adhd and i wouldn't say it came close to fucking my life up. everyone is different, yes were things hard? sure. but we all get by.
@NakedSophistry
@NakedSophistry Месяц назад
How does not getting on stimulant drugs as a child fuck you up for life, exactly? Worse grades in school? Hmm...which is worse... I was diagnosed with ADHD as a child and I did just fine without meds. Maybe I would have done better with them, but I don't think that should have happened when I was fucking ten. Insanity.
@cly_
@cly_ Месяц назад
@@jesss101 I don't think your argument countered any argument I made. You just said things because you want to win an argument. PS, ADHD sure did fuck up my life, several times.
@Yuki_Seraphim
@Yuki_Seraphim Месяц назад
@@jesss101 It's fine that you got by while having ADHD and never been diagnosed, (at least as a child) BUT you're not every single person that has ADHD right? You are just using your own life experiences to tinge your whole view of undiagnosed "problems" I have been battling with depression and suicidal ideation my whole life, since I was in elementary school. I've done fine enough, I haven't attempted a single time, but I have come significantly close to actually attempting, and I think that getting diagnosed would've helped me a lot to actually effectively dealt with those emotions, and it would've led me to not be an "outcast" for the majority of my life, just because I was "different" from everyone else. It just sucks being gay, trans, or autistic in 3rd world countries, you are just kind of stuck with whatever cards god gave you, so i believe, that your views although not evil, you are just coating a complex topic with a single brush stroke with a single can of paint.
@bluraggon6674
@bluraggon6674 Месяц назад
I kindda agree with pyro with treatment. Like we know we dont want kids to drink because alcohol just sucks, its not a core personality trait or identity to like drinking alcohol (and if it is you almost certintly need help). But wanting to transition can be, but its something also dangerous and I think ultimitly pyros answer to the question is "Yes, but with an informed third party and also enough time for the person to ascertain that their very much serious about this and its not some kindda phase or misdirected thinking." It is an answer. Its just not one that can be crammed into a simple Y/N to cover everything. Now, getting surgery, I say bar till 18/adult.
@MathiasGlendrange
@MathiasGlendrange Месяц назад
Leave the kids alone... why do you guys want this so much..?
@lluell
@lluell Месяц назад
​@@MathiasGlendrange you're so stupid i genuinely can't tell whether this is a bit or not. you're media literacy is down the fucking drain
@faultyistired2556
@faultyistired2556 Месяц назад
The third party thing is kinda stupid from him because it is literally impossible rn to confirm whether or not a kid is actually trans or anyone for that matter with any method.
@KATinBLACK
@KATinBLACK Месяц назад
Yeah but Pyro doesn’t know how to be concise. That’s why he makes 15+ min videos to explain simple drama while Dolan can make a video about the same thing in 2min 🦆
@shrisiva4016
@shrisiva4016 Месяц назад
@@MathiasGlendrange You're the one ignoring the research that helps kids. Why you do hate trans kids so much?
@thatonehispanic7982
@thatonehispanic7982 27 дней назад
If a person can't get a tattoo until they are 18 the same should apply with both life changing surgeries and puberty blockers
@Bareq_99
@Bareq_99 21 день назад
Always was a dumb comparison
@thelegendaryhunter0
@thelegendaryhunter0 20 дней назад
@@Bareq_99 yeah tattos alteast just make you look dumb, those surgeries can fuck a person life up
@Sgt.Paprika
@Sgt.Paprika 12 дней назад
people regret tattoos more than gender affirming care. also, puberty blockers are not permanent. you can literally just get off of them.
@thatonehispanic7982
@thatonehispanic7982 11 дней назад
@@Sgt.Paprika exactly if puberty blockers are not permanent then trans KIDS should have no problem waiting until they are 18
@jacobkelly1653
@jacobkelly1653 Месяц назад
crazy how not being an extremist is fence sitting nowadays
@barny541
@barny541 Месяц назад
You can be on the middle of the autism- i mean political spectrum, and then criticize both sides. But that also gets double the hate and only real fuckin legends are in that middle sweet spot.
@notddead
@notddead Месяц назад
That was fucking delicious! Eggs on toast.
@mpixl9965
@mpixl9965 Месяц назад
I appreciate Nerd talking about the difference between "proof" and "evidence", in my language (Dutch) "proof" and "evidence" translate into the same term ("bewijs"), it has never occurred to me that those words might be used differently because in my vernacular it quite literally does not exist (or it does but it's some obscure courtroom-specific word I've never heard of).
@scarletsletter4466
@scarletsletter4466 Месяц назад
Evidence can be pieces, like data used together to reach a conclusion, that could be proof. But yes, the words are different in English. It’s actually 1 of the key differences and reasons why in international business we like to sign a contract that says English translation governs, even if we choose a neutral jurisdiction of governing law, with venue at The Hague for example. It’s common for all the parties to want English language since it lets us get the most precise legal terms in the contract
@aidantje2473
@aidantje2473 Месяц назад
evidence kan toch ook vertaalt worden met bewijsmateriaal?
@mpixl9965
@mpixl9965 Месяц назад
@@aidantje2473 goed punt, ik heb die term persoonlijk nog nooit gehoord (of ik kan het ten minste niet herinneren), maar het klinkt correct.
@nanopone
@nanopone Месяц назад
im trans and this is really painful to listen to. unfortunately it seems all of them dont really know what theyre talking about, and thats fine but heres some education trans kids are definitely real, i was one of them (im an adult now obviously). not all of them are forced into being trans by their parents, or doing it for attention. there is an astronomical difference between getting srs (sexual reassignment surgery), having hormone blockers/replacement, and socially transitioning. being trans doesn't mean "getting your meat snipped", it means being who you want to be openly, regardless of physical appearance. physically transitioning is a whole other thing that a lot of us don't even go through with, but it doesn't make us any less trans
@discosage
@discosage Месяц назад
These people don't want to know actual facts.
@spaghetti0356
@spaghetti0356 Месяц назад
me too, and agree.
@poorpheasant69
@poorpheasant69 Месяц назад
holy shit based comment
@ilikemelon7872
@ilikemelon7872 Месяц назад
Thank you
@wetoddedd
@wetoddedd Месяц назад
to be fair, pyro not knowing what he's talking about is not a rarity
@frankcastle1862
@frankcastle1862 Месяц назад
Pyro is kinda right even though the comments are shitting on him, there is no definitive answer to the question only different scenarios playing out with different long therm consequences, we can never evaluate what is going to happen definitely
@jordaniscancelled3327
@jordaniscancelled3327 Месяц назад
The correct answer is “no”. Children can’t consent to taking drugs, drinking alcohol or having tattoos. They simply can’t make major life decisions or taking drugs that literally stunt hormones and will occasionally take away your right to reproduce.
@shrisiva4016
@shrisiva4016 Месяц назад
The comments are pretty ignorant on trans issues. Surgery doesn't happen for minors, and there is a very lengthy process with lots of check from medical professionals to just get hormones, with plenty of chances to back out
@masonmanuel1637
@masonmanuel1637 Месяц назад
If you can’t get a tattoo at 12 because you’re too young to alter your body so drastically then gender surgery is an absolute no go. That is the question being asked and the answer is so obvious but female sisters like pyro are too scared to say it.
@shrisiva4016
@shrisiva4016 Месяц назад
@@masonmanuel1637 Gender surgery doesn't happen with minors
@LSB44446
@LSB44446 Месяц назад
@@shrisiva4016It's still genital mutilation, and children still shouldn't be able to have such surgeries until they're no longer children
@SincereCloud58
@SincereCloud58 Месяц назад
The CEO of slop struggles with having an opinion about a range of topics for 1 hour, 32 minutes and 22 seconds.
@frostycane5134
@frostycane5134 Месяц назад
He doesn’t want to be cancelled but his opinion isn’t worth canceling him
@scarletsletter4466
@scarletsletter4466 Месяц назад
😂 it’s funny to hear him flounder but OTOH it’s mad depressing that we live in a time where folks are scared to say “let’s not sterilize minors with elective procedures, just wait til they’re adults”
@lunachurro6411
@lunachurro6411 Месяц назад
​It's not the medical consensus lol. Believe it or not it doesn't actually matter what we think that much, it's the md's and research that says gender Affirming care is fantastic for those with dysphoria...
@SincereCloud58
@SincereCloud58 Месяц назад
@@lunachurro6411 You're so right. I love Dr. Fauci and Science. Oh my science. I LOVE IT! I LOVE SCIENCE!
@RedactedComs
@RedactedComs Месяц назад
@@lunachurro6411Yes, because doctors are always correct about morality, especially when they financially benefit from prescribed hormones!
@toybonniebon
@toybonniebon Месяц назад
Seen some people dunking on Pyro being a fence sitter about the trans thing but, I do see what he's going for. The parents are a huge factor when it comes to children's decision making and it follows them when they age, even if they disagree later on. Really depends on the environment they grow up in and if that process is worth it for the long term.
@waltch5711
@waltch5711 Месяц назад
I think that how parents raise their kid is the single most important factor in a childs life. It can literally mean that the child either grows up successful or a criminal. Parenting is the root of the problem and it should be adressed instead of making sex change surgeries legal for children
@Johnathan_Porkinstein
@Johnathan_Porkinstein Месяц назад
the fact that this comment has 8 likes proves that we're living in clown world. How absolutely disgusting how some people justify their degenerate views.
@the8626
@the8626 Месяц назад
What? Nuanced decision making? In MY comment section of a video that mentioned trans people? Unacceptable!
@bige2867
@bige2867 Месяц назад
I think that Nerd's take on internet restrictions for kids was really good and nuanced, I think It's really important that the label of "this could have stuff that isn't safe" is really good
@Hoopaugi
@Hoopaugi Месяц назад
The transition stuff is pretty simple: If you are of legal age and paying for it yourself, do whatever the fuck you want.
@raquetdude
@raquetdude Месяц назад
Can get shot at in the military but can’t get medical procedure until ur 2/3 years older. Medication I think should be available through a system though of medical checks and therapy checks given that hormones and blockers are used by sooo many cis gender people and even children already for decades now.
@heythere349
@heythere349 Месяц назад
@@raquetdude
@tasuu_
@tasuu_ Месяц назад
@@raquetdude EXACTLY
@supremcaos
@supremcaos Месяц назад
​​@@raquetdudemaybe the issue is the fact that certain countries let you join the army under 18 more than the opposite. Where I live you cannot, for example.
@goopguy548
@goopguy548 Месяц назад
that's not how it works, even past 18 you need years of therapy on the issue and a few loopholes to actually get surgery on the stuff
@archive3339
@archive3339 Месяц назад
If you do any amount of further research you'll find that surgery AND hrt are already illegal for MOST people under 18 in nearly every country on earth unless you are in EXCEPTIONAL circumstances. If someone thinks they are trans before 18 they MIGHT get to go on puberty blockers which allow them to postpone the hell of going through the "wrong" puberty until they are 18 when they can choose to start hrt/ have surgery if they want to (if they decide not to they just stop taking the blockers and their puberty happens as normal just alot later), and something like over 80% of people who start puberty blockers go on to continue their transition which is often presented as a negative even though its not a negative its literally the whole purpose of the puberty blockers in the first place
@ScripFing
@ScripFing Месяц назад
As someone that transitioned at 16, I don't think Colossal understands the sheer amount of checks you have to go through in order to even start hormones. I had to get multiple second opinions, consent from my parents, and a written diagnosis of gender dysphoria over the course of 6 months. I had plenty of time to consider the consequences of what I did and was repeatedly informed of the possible side effects, but still went through with it anyways because I was confident that it would benefit me. I understand Colossal concern that kids aren't able to understand the ramifications of transitioning but throughout the actual experience of my transition, I was given a plethora of opportunities to reconsider. I appreciate pyro standing up for us though
@MagpieWattle
@MagpieWattle Месяц назад
yeah and I came out YEARS ago, and I'm still waiting on even getting to diagnosing my dysphoria because the swedish healthcare system is awful.
@SUSHIG0LD
@SUSHIG0LD Месяц назад
Good insight This is clowns worst moment imo, he really compared trans surgery to underage drinking, I don't think I've ever rolled my eyes so hard.
@jesss101
@jesss101 Месяц назад
i respect your experience, but there are many children who have not had that experience and just get immediately affirmed and prescribed without those checks. people who got surgeries without proper mental health checks. your experience is good to hear, that there are people it works out for, but there are so many people it has failed. if you check the rising rates of detransitioners you can see it clear as day. maybe the solution isn't ban but definitely major reform also, this next point is not applied to you, but it's possible to be inaccurate about a worldview for a long period of time. for example, people who were certain religions for years, then realize their worldview was not accurate. children especially can have shifted views as they are figuring things out. so, those checks may not actually stop anyone because they can just stick with it for a long time and still be inaccurate
@millythespugwit9051
@millythespugwit9051 Месяц назад
Yeah, all of them come from this in a place of privilege. They don’t know his inefficient and how much the world is against *us* nor the extent of this disorder to be helped. It’s not something you can wait for till you’re an adult (for care in general) because it’s torturous to go through puberty, and worst to get to the irreversible end. The argument “why not wait” made my centrists like we see here comes from a perspective that is clear they don’t know what it’s like, and really how could they?! But because people like this make the decisions, and it is the most common ‘progress’ consensus I’m afraid to say suicide rates will sky rocket
@whiteskywinter
@whiteskywinter Месяц назад
finally, a cloud yells at an old man
@Real_Kaedinh
@Real_Kaedinh Месяц назад
Pyro actually spoke this episode
@azoth19
@azoth19 Месяц назад
"funny woman pills" thanks pyro i feel so validated
@cnj5643
@cnj5643 Месяц назад
you are disgusting
@gwenzy750
@gwenzy750 Месяц назад
once you look a bit into how transitioning works than the answer become simple. if a teenager under 18 and parents consented and you have the green light from a psychiatrist then you can go ahead and take puberty blocker. once you are 18 and have tried living as the opposite gender ( dressing as the opposite gender, have people use the opposite pronounce etc etc.) and you are comfortable with that decision than you can start actually taking HRT. this way you are at no risk of doing irreversible change to your body that you might regret. and later down the line in your 20s if you wanted to you can go for gender affirming surgery.
@LostTerminalVideos
@LostTerminalVideos Месяц назад
I'm only around 15 minutes into this episode, so I hope things changes later on but oh my god Colossal is being so incredibly bad faith with his questions. Nobody is expecting kids to go through surgery for their gender dysphoria. It just simply doesn't happen. All we want is appropriate psychiatric help from qualified therapists, and puberty blockers so that they can put their puberty on hold long enough for them to make a final decision when they're old enough for it with significantly better results for them since they didn't have to go through the puberty of their born sex. It's also worth pointing out that the effects of puberty blockers are entirely reversible as a person can simply stop taking them and their puberty will resume. Discussions like this are always so frustrating to me because none of the people on this podcast know enough about what they're talking about to be able to have a real discussion about it. All of their points are simply based on assumptions and things they think they've heard. We need to be learn to be willing to admit that we don't know enough about something to make an informed comment on it, and if we don't know enough, either don't talk about it, or learn about it. Half-baked topics like this do nothing but hurt people. Edit: Watched through the whole thing now and yeah I've lost a lot of respect for Colossal and Nerd City because of this episode. A lot of completely baseless points were made by them with complete confidence on their end instead of just admitting they don't know. Very disappointed.
@-ALTERNATOR
@-ALTERNATOR Месяц назад
TL;DR + YWNBAW
@Baphomet-tk5qs
@Baphomet-tk5qs Месяц назад
​@@-ALTERNATOR Are you a human to being with
@pinkpanikvt
@pinkpanikvt Месяц назад
Big agree, people once again adding their opinions on something they don't know enough about. Pyro was stuck in a very tough position, trying to empathise with both sides while trying to navigate a very hostile environment and bad faith questions. Kids don't get surgery, ever. That's the way it should be. It's a bad faith talking point to say kids are getting parts chopped off when that just isn't true.
@cosmiko._
@cosmiko._ Месяц назад
​@@-ALTERNATORGen alpha really does have a cooked attention span oh my lord.
@onioncontrol
@onioncontrol Месяц назад
This show was fun while it lasted. I hope they resolve their issues and continue. Good episode to end with if not.
@mikazukimunini
@mikazukimunini Месяц назад
As a 21 years old trans person living in a 3rd world country where I could not get gender affirming care nor surgery without jumping through hoops; I do think at least 18 for surgery is best but before that, you can socially transition and see if that's what you want. I've always known I was trans or not my assigned gender even before I found out what it meant- before internet, before even being exposed to anything queer. I felt like something was wrong and hated being perceived as my assigned gender. I also hit puberty at 8 and looked older/taller than children my age so Sneako thinking children that has hit puberty being able to consent with their parents permission made me feel utter disgust. It already happens in 3rd world countries like mine for money and is FAR more widespread than gender affirming surgery on minors. inb4 "tldr" because god forbid someone decides to engage with content under le funny podcast
@baylego
@baylego Месяц назад
The problem is not social transition, is puberty blockers and hormone treatment
@doinkson
@doinkson Месяц назад
​@@baylegoits an answer to the question asked in the podcast dude
@kada0420
@kada0420 Месяц назад
I share the same thoughts, but I'll also add that they should not do the meds (treatment or blockers. Not familiar since I'm not exposed to it) until at least 18 as well. After that, it's all on them. Edit : added the bracket
@aries2242
@aries2242 Месяц назад
I also agree that social transition should be considered first before jumping immediately to puberty blockers and the like. I read another comment that said the attending psychiatrist and doctor need to constantly check in with the child taking on puberty blockers so if this is the case a constant and consistent, diligent check-in should definitely be the minimum. Personally I really don't think these should be made an option for children until they reach 18-20 of age though.
@wlcus485
@wlcus485 Месяц назад
Stop the gay
@pinkpanikvt
@pinkpanikvt Месяц назад
I think the most important variable that everybody seems to forget is the fact that trans kids DON'T GET SURGERY. Puberty blockers pause puberty in a REVERSIBLE way, giving the kid time to decide and get therapy to figure out if that's the path they wanna take. That's the protocol for care for trans kids.
@pinkpanikvt
@pinkpanikvt Месяц назад
Also mad respect to pyro for navigating that really difficult position. It's hard to answer when caught between 2 very charged armies. I wish everyone would just learn about what they're talking about before making a snap decision.
@nickbrowning3270
@nickbrowning3270 Месяц назад
children do get trans surgery. in the netherlands a girls is suing the state for removing her breasts at 15. i hate you people
@tinarex1173
@tinarex1173 Месяц назад
​@@nickbrowning3270Pulling out freak accident just to condemn the whole group you simpleton
@cady__
@cady__ Месяц назад
@@nickbrowning3270idiot
@Sammyo.o
@Sammyo.o Месяц назад
The standards of care for trans affirming care is social transitioning->pubertyblockers-> at 18 allowed to start hormones with extensive psychiatric care-> 2 years after the start of hrt you can apply for surgery. there are so many steps where one can realise one is wrong, i know people can fall outside of this step system in extreme cases but that happens with everything. the biggest driver is taking out profit out of the medical industry by for example mutualities. and a good psychiatrist (in my case even 2) that both independantly came to the conclusion of gender dysphoria before you can walk past the social transitioning steps. the biggest issue is people completely taking out of context the care system just to get a rise or hate exactly like sneako did. Kids are not getting their d chopped of, this is a complete falsification to get a rise out of people who dont know better. fear mongering has been used in so many situations the fact people dont notice it genuinely baffles me.
@sae_decay
@sae_decay Месяц назад
real talk, it’s kinda clear y’all don’t ow much about the topic of transitioning and that’s perfectly fine! learning is everything. but it’s slightly upsetting how little most of you know about it, you’re saying things in the tone of ‘this should be how it is!” when that’s LITERALLY how it is and implying it’s not like that. so pleaseeeeee do some research before a topic!! kids (18 and under) HAVE to go to gender therapy, talk to doctors extensively etc etc, only for HORMONES. you can’t get surgery as a child for gender affirming care!! - a trans guy!! i AM very happy you are talking about this topic!! it’s very interesting to hear what others think but i beeegggg of you to make sure to not imply anything bad, we already have it really rough at the moment lmao
@remsleeep
@remsleeep 20 дней назад
the comment section looks more bloodthirsty than normally
@animaza5563
@animaza5563 6 дней назад
the children are awake
@kappasphere
@kappasphere Месяц назад
16:47 Isn't this just misinformation? When I look up what the regulations in Canada are, I get a set of rules that doctors HAVE TO follow before they're even allowed to administer gender-affirming treatment. Note how this directly contradicts Nerd's claim that the doctors aren't allowed to question a patient's self-diagnosis. They are required by law to question the self-diagnosis.
@spaghetti0356
@spaghetti0356 Месяц назад
Name a better Duo, Transphobia and lying.
@scarletsletter4466
@scarletsletter4466 Месяц назад
Those Canadian regulations are for their socialized medical system. Nothing bc stops wealthy Canadians from paying for additional medical care. Also many of them just come here to the US. I live in NY & tons of Canadians come to our hospitals
@kappasphere
@kappasphere Месяц назад
@@scarletsletter4466 Ah sorry, I just found a source that was biased against trans people and claiming to give an overview of the law, when it was actually giving an overview of the health care system. Turns out transphobic sources are still inaccurate when they give information that hurts their cause. (for reference, the Aristotle report claims: "No province or territory in Canada allows “bottom” (male or female genital reassignment) surgery for applicants under the age of 18", but I couldn't find a different source confirming this) But in either case, my point stands: Nerd claims it's forbidden to question children's self-diagnoses on the topic of surgery, when it's actually *standard practice* not to do surgery on children in the first place, so the truth is something that is vastly different from and mutually exclusive with what he said.
@dyskilz
@dyskilz Месяц назад
@@spaghetti0356trans and game ending
@dyskilz
@dyskilz Месяц назад
@@spaghetti0356got it, trans people and GG’ing themselves
@StummerVogel
@StummerVogel Месяц назад
Very interesting episode. I enjoy when you're just fooling around and having fun, but discussing topics in a more nuanced way is very interesting to listen to as well. The downside is I can't just go and do something else while running the video in the background, I had to sit down and listen closely because I didn't want to miss anything XD
@sawyboy6235
@sawyboy6235 Месяц назад
“Funny women pills” 😭😭😭😭😭
@omarsabir1210
@omarsabir1210 Месяц назад
Lmaoooo
@Woobacca
@Woobacca Месяц назад
My dumb hot take...we'd be better served as a society to stop assuming that just because a boy takes interest in girl things it MUST mean they are trans. By all means, I think adults should have access to gender affirming surgeries, but perhaps prior to becoming an adult we should just follow the kid's lead by letting them explore toys/media/whatever without shaming them for enjoying something "girly" Not saying gender dysphoria isn't real BUT I think a lot of people do the obsession thing like Pyro and the height surgery when it's really just insecurity or whatever about not exactly fitting into "boy norms" Let them explore without stigma, but you don't need to push heady adult issues like gender surgery onto them unless THEY are the ones that bring it up. Then you can start the whole psych eval process to make sure it's legit gender dysphoria and if it persists when they come of age, BOOM, now they can get the surgery and move forward with their new life.
@joshuabeaudoin4290
@joshuabeaudoin4290 Месяц назад
Funnily enough there was some movement in that direction back in the 2010's, but as is common with progressivism it swung further to the left, that became the current thing, and it purity spiraled out
@rebeccaspratling2865
@rebeccaspratling2865 Месяц назад
For sure! 2 of my teenage daughter's friends wanted to be trans 4 years ago. Last year they both decided they didn't want to be trans anymore. Luckily they weren't allowed to do permanently body modifications.. One of them actually wanted top surgery. One of them started out as non binary, then wanted to be male and then back to non binary and now she's fine with being a girl. They're all 18 now.
@lawrencelopez9839
@lawrencelopez9839 Месяц назад
I mean, every adult has been a kid before it's weird that some of us forgot that we just wanted something because it was an option or it was trending then move on to the next one
@Unlucky-b8x
@Unlucky-b8x Месяц назад
Too long didn't read unlucky
@tylerjames805
@tylerjames805 Месяц назад
The femboys who’ve been pressured into transitioning (I’ve known at least a few) agree
@Asrilel
@Asrilel Месяц назад
im about half an hour into the video and i wanna point out two things. 1: beginning a transition as a child is not comparable with getting irreversible surgery. it usually starts with the person going on puberty blockers, in most cases until they are adults. if the person changes their mind and realizes that they arent trans, they simply get off puberty blockers. if not, the gender affirming care will proceed. those puberty blockers do no irreversible damage to a child who may turn out to not be trans. as for bottom surgery, it should never be available to minors, but thats besides the point since it isnt anyway. 2: drag is not a fetish. its a hobby, similarly to cosplaying.
@_vexicon_
@_vexicon_ Месяц назад
that intro was so uninformed it was baffling. No one seemed to have any idea what they talking about but insisted on talking about it
@nawal10
@nawal10 Месяц назад
Back home in Egypt 1 of my 15 year old cousins was married off to a 30 year old by her family. By 17 he kicked her out and their baby. Now she's back with her family and instead of 1 they're raising 2. Smh!
@zombieclone98
@zombieclone98 Месяц назад
They're always so late on these podcasts and I really don't understand why when there's like no editing throughout the entire thing
@smink5447
@smink5447 Месяц назад
They're gay
@TBHpodcast
@TBHpodcast Месяц назад
@@smink5447 pretty much this is the reason yeah
@bungleboy7
@bungleboy7 Месяц назад
For the first time I agree with the fat furry fetishist british man, it's incredibly complicated to take a stance on such topics. Good podcast.
@MathiasGlendrange
@MathiasGlendrange Месяц назад
Leave the kids alone. It isn't that complicated.
@omarsabir1210
@omarsabir1210 Месяц назад
Sneako alt account ​@@MathiasGlendrange
@cnut7383
@cnut7383 Месяц назад
​@@MathiasGlendrangeyes leave the kids alone but i knew kids who sought out hormones in secret from their parents
@thatguygabe3488
@thatguygabe3488 Месяц назад
⁠@@MathiasGlendrangelets also stop treating kids who have cancer because they cant consent to treatment
@kazekami5513
@kazekami5513 Месяц назад
@@omarsabir1210 Sneako wants kids to get married to adults... Sneako wouldn't want them to be left alone ret.ar.d
@Ausboombox
@Ausboombox Месяц назад
people should just let kids be kids it's that simple
@mlgcactus1035
@mlgcactus1035 Месяц назад
It should be the parents responsibility, they know their child better then anyone. But to bad most parents are a bastards
@Ausboombox
@Ausboombox Месяц назад
@@mlgcactus1035 it should be up to the parents but only a compete moron would listen to a 10 yo if they said they want to transition, children only think of the now and fail to realizes what they want is permeant
@_lil_lil
@_lil_lil Месяц назад
I agree, and at the same time, I think some kids are trans, but generally that involves dressing differently at a younger age, it's only as they get older and go through therapy and tons of medical hoops that they get on puberty blockers and such. I think as usual, adults try to force kids to make up their minds instead of leaving it more open ended.
@Bareq_99
@Bareq_99 21 день назад
​@@Ausboomboxcorrect That's why doctors are involved you re8ard
@armaanshahzad2939
@armaanshahzad2939 Месяц назад
Idk about the other comments, but im glad the others are also taking part. Not just Nerd ruling it. Im not a Nerd hater, hes great. I just want equal representation. I missed my degenerate (in the most parasocial way possible)
@archocystosyrinx
@archocystosyrinx Месяц назад
I missed my degenerate
@loganfullerton1138
@loganfullerton1138 Месяц назад
Low key this went from sneko vs moist critical to just sort of talking about pyro and his beliefs. Grated it wasn’t malicious but they said nearly nothing about moist and sneko.
@tucosalamanca5818
@tucosalamanca5818 Месяц назад
I considered transitioning into an alpha male when I was 12…. I am now sigma🐺🐺😈
@saionfps
@saionfps Месяц назад
i think there’s too much pressure on the parents leaning or pushing their child to ‘be trans’, I haven’t really ever seen or heard of that? being trans myself I grew up with a mix of ‘feminine’ and ‘masculine’ things but it’s not like anyone pushed me. In fact it came as a surprise to everyone when I felt confident enough to come out. And trans / gender affirming surgery isn’t this one time thing check in check out thing, takes a lot of consultation with doctors, getting proper diagnoses from psychologists and other professionals to make sure you really do exhibit self dysmorphia / being trans. long waiting periods etc, it’s a process. Every step of the way, as I did come out and have started my transition before becoming 18, has been thorough and lengthy. I am so sure of what I’m doing and people around me have also made sure. Also, the rough % of people who de-transition is like 2% or something, surgery at about 5-10%, but mostly due to complications with surgery, not not wanting to be trans.
@elonmusket5676
@elonmusket5676 Месяц назад
This topic is not a slippery slope, you shouldn’t have life altering surgery’s before your brain fully develops
@dannythecheeto7481
@dannythecheeto7481 Месяц назад
Then why can people serve at 18? A completely not developed brain and its completely fine for them to go to war
@shrisiva4016
@shrisiva4016 Месяц назад
Good thing gender surgery doesn't happen with minors then
@goopguy548
@goopguy548 Месяц назад
it's very rare to hear anyone saying that, the debate is around hormone blockers and HRT.
@september758
@september758 Месяц назад
Oh wow, would you look at that, they killed themselves before 18 for being neglected gender affirmation!
@RandomAssDiego
@RandomAssDiego Месяц назад
Pyro: *Elaborates on a complex topic with insightful and thought provoking opinions* Colossal: yes or no tho
@kbunful
@kbunful Месяц назад
When did we start letting children make life altering decisions?
@Pjizzle-w2v
@Pjizzle-w2v Месяц назад
I think it’s pretty obvious that if a percent regret it because they were young at the time there should be an age limit
@alphacode5
@alphacode5 Месяц назад
if it weren't for colossal this podcast would be like the rest of the internet, people saying "it's a big issue" and dancing around it without giving an opinion for an hour
@Nassamest
@Nassamest Месяц назад
They are afraid to get canceled. Like you could hear Pyro wanting to say teens shouldn't get this surgery(Atleast I think that was the point of his story) but were actually affraid to say it as he met his trans fans and didn't wanted to upset them. It's a shitty situation to be in ngl
@jebediahomalley9852
@jebediahomalley9852 Месяц назад
Clown had the worst and least informed take here
@RUINERS
@RUINERS Месяц назад
is charlie okay with catboy ranch?
@Diakyuto
@Diakyuto Месяц назад
A lot of the early debate was honestly really grating. Everyone’s heart was in the right place, everyone wanted to do a constructive discussion aside from some of colossal’s old man tier questions but man so many people seemed pretty woefully prepared to even discuss the trans debate when it came to the action process. So much of it was harping on gender reassignment surgery when it isn’t even allowed on those under 18 except for the “r/technicallyTrue” examples as pyro would call it. I was hoping someone would bring affirming care rather than reassignment surgery but it was only until Dolan actually spoke and even then it just loops back to surgery which was only brought up because genital mutilation is such an easy buzzword to bring up against minors going through that process of self discovery. I totally see pyro’s point of view, it’s an extremely loaded question to just drop on someone. The segment just ends up being people trying to get a black and white answer for said loaded question. I’d rather just the topic being on DAP NFTs
@SassyRiolu
@SassyRiolu Месяц назад
My new favourite hobby is to skip 10 seconds forward and backwards whilst Colossal is reading out the sponsored segment.
@ihwb3005
@ihwb3005 Месяц назад
11:45 well the point is that transitioning surgery carries the risk of regretting it later, but alcohol is literally proven to physically have negative effects on undeveloped livers so yes, it is different
@discosage
@discosage Месяц назад
The vast majority of trans people don't even have surgery and almost no one thinks children should have srs.
@dyskilz
@dyskilz Месяц назад
No they’re both proven to have negative effects on you regardless it’s just one is more expensive and hurts your body a lot more
@1738-l1j
@1738-l1j Месяц назад
why you lying how come everybody in balkans start drinking at 7
@zachariewinters2335
@zachariewinters2335 Месяц назад
I feel like Colossal was asking the question to Pyro in a disingenuous way. Because while asking about surgery, he also mentioned Hormonal treatments, Which is a very different question. Now the reason i would argue against the leg surgery is because getting the leg surgery should wait. because you're not going to get any less tall in the interim, and you may in fact get taller without a procedure that includes negative side effects even if you get the result you wanted. Additionally, gender reassignment surgeries Can reasonably wait for a simillar reason, they're a static change. However hormonal changes are a long term change, and as such treatments should be available to young trans people (specifically hormone blockers) Because /not/ having the treatment is also a life altering decision. If you believe you are trans as a child and turn out to stand by that decision and are in fact trans but were denied treatment and have gone through The puberty of your assigned gender you are further away from your goal of transition, you have become More evidently the wrong gender, and this can have massively detrimental psychological effects. The opposite being the case where you believe you are trans, get gender reassignment and then realize you do not still feel you are transgender, Is also a negative outcome. Puberty blockers- which are freely given to non trans kids without any incident for precocious/early puberty, Delay natural puberty. which when a child becomes an adult, can either be circumvented and full hormonal transition can begin. or if they decide they are not trans their assigned gender puberty can be resumed by going of the blockers and they can go through puberty with potentially some additional hormones to expedite the process. However (at least in the uk) The Lack of qualified and informed Gender reassignment specialists mean that most British trans people, kids included are stuck on a decade long waiting list to even get their first appointment to be seen by a doctor for their psychological evaluation for treament, at whichpoint they're already an adult and should frankly be allowed to make the choice themselves! I think the fact that Pyro isn't fully familiar with how the treatments work makes his repeated statements that "he's not familiar enough with it to accurately give his opinion" was a reasonable response and could have saved the meandering if the questioning had been dropped. Additionally while Ava kris tyson is a creep and a groomer, failing to use she/her pronouns shows you don't really respect the concept of people being trans enough to use peoples pronouns regardless of the quality of their character or how you feel about them, She's a piece of shit. but she's still a she.
@mayawallos
@mayawallos Месяц назад
I think this whole conversation is useless until everyone has the same standards... At 14 I was first asked if I want to take the pill, at 13 my friend got a nose job with parents permission and at 17 she got her boob's done and I saw a video of 9-10 year old in an Asian country that got her eyelids one... Why is that OK but when it comes to transgender people it's not?... And actually it doesn't even matter if you think it's OK or not the fact is that for some reason for transgender people the standers are different
@scarletsletter4466
@scarletsletter4466 Месяц назад
Friend, getting a nose job is different than sterilizing yourself so your body (& brain) never develop properly & you can’t have children. Puberty blockers prevent the brain from maturing as well as the body, & children who take these often suffer depression & far worse
@kaydenjones3183
@kaydenjones3183 Месяц назад
"Why is that ok" nobody said thats okay. You're arguing points that nobody has argued yet. Depending on whether its puberty blockers or HRT i dont think children are smart enough or informed enough to choose that. I dont think a child should get tatoos. I dont think a child should go through height surgery. I dont think a child should drink alcohol. All these things have varying levels of consequences for a child but the point is a child cant give an informed decisions to these things. Just start the therapy when you have your life somewhat sorted out and not when you're going through the weirdest period of your life. If a child really feels that they're trans then they should socially transition first.
@mayawallos
@mayawallos Месяц назад
@@scarletsletter4466 never said it's the same thing but it does have a lot of psychological effects and even physical effects... Also so do a lot of drugs they give kids like candy, like ADHD drugs and the pill too... It fucked up my life completely.. Started having hot flashes at 15 and crazy nausea and a bunch of other fertility stuff... It really screwed up my hormones even until now 15 years later... Also having kids isn't the end goal for a lot of people... I knew I didn't want kids at the age of 4 and now I'm 30 and only feel more strongly about it... Look I'm not saying I'm pro giving kids drugs or life changing surgery but if I compare that to a child wanting to die because they hate themselves so much and are extremely depressed then I think there's some wiggle room... After a lot of therapy and years of understanding the conciquence, I don't think I or anyone has the right to decide for others
@mayawallos
@mayawallos Месяц назад
@@kaydenjones3183 like that's easy to say and all but for a kid that's going through puberty in a body they don't feel like belongs to them to that extent it's kind of on another level... Like kids have killed themselves because they thought they could never truly be themselves... Like I'm a big fan of therapy and stuff but that doesn't always cut it... Nor does everyone have access to it or even in a family that would allow that... I just think it's way to complicated to just say no one EVER should be able to do this... It's a lot more nuanced than that and I think in some situations it should be allowed... (after a lot of therapy)
@wiggattelo
@wiggattelo Месяц назад
Colossal is not based, hes just voicing and asking what 99% of ppl are thinking. But unfortunately in todays age it has to be considered based because, being normal is bad nowadays
@Yuki_Seraphim
@Yuki_Seraphim Месяц назад
Well then, just say what's "normal" is it bieng straight? Is it being cisgender? Not everyone is going to see "normal" the exact same way, you're just self-centered in that regard, and ignorant of others perspectives.
@erinrees9786
@erinrees9786 Месяц назад
It’s practically impossible to start medically or surgically transition under the age of 18 anyway (as a trans person) it’s so difficult to do it’s a dumb argument as less than 1% of people can do it at that age and less than 1% of trans people regret transitioning anyway
@raquetdude
@raquetdude Месяц назад
The fact that the UK is soooo far behind the US makes this topic weird also. Let alone the difference in how each nation regards the age at which you become an adult etc etc
@rusi6219
@rusi6219 Месяц назад
45% 5-7 years post transition
@raquetdude
@raquetdude Месяц назад
@@rusi6219 ? Main reason why ppl don’t live long after transitioning or they transition back is due to social factors
@rusi6219
@rusi6219 Месяц назад
@@raquetdude sure buddy
@rusi6219
@rusi6219 Месяц назад
@@raquetdude also nice shifting of goalpost
@ericainspace
@ericainspace Месяц назад
I'm not an expert, a parent, or a trans person. My opinion doesn't matter. That said, I used to think gender affirming care for kids was okay, but lately I'm not so sure. I don't think children should ever be given gender reassignment surgery (to my knowledge, no one under the age of 18 ever has edit: in Canada), and gender affirming care, like puberty blockers, should only be given to children after extensive psychological assessments and care to determine if it's even needed. But I don't think any of this gets to the heart of the issue. The fact is, society starts gendering children way too early. As soon as they know the biological sex of the child, adults start imposing arbitrary gender "rules" on them, like girls wear pink and have to play with dolls etc while boys wear blue and have to play with trucks etc. That's weird. Kids just play. At no point should the colors a child likes or the kinds of toys a child plays with be used to determine their gender, and the toys and colors they're "allowed" to be into shouldn't be determined by their biological sex. It's incredibly messed up that society imposes these rules when in reality a child is just a child. Give them a chance to freely develop preferences, teach them biology (of both sexes), teach them morals and history. But the hardcore gendering in general needs to stop. I think society is just so messed up for deepening the gender divide with every generation and sexualizing children from a young age. Don't people see that's probably why kids are developing gender dysphoria at younger and younger ages?
@ayanamiiii
@ayanamiiii Месяц назад
I agree, 100%
@blobbbe
@blobbbe Месяц назад
unfortunately, it does happen. jazz jennings, for example underwent full penile inversion surgery at 17. their penis was so atrophied due to puberty blockers there was insufficient tissue for the operation. as such, jazz will never feel any amount of sexual pleasure from their new genetalia. more commonly "reassignment surgery" is performed on young girls. thousands of girls aged 12 (yes, 12) upwards have had "gender-affirming" double mastectomies, and hundreds more do each year. this is not some abstract "yeah this would be bad if it happened, but it doesn't happen" question, it is happening today.
@carous3lcos
@carous3lcos Месяц назад
@@blobbbe if you don't mind me asking, do you have a source for reassignment surgeries being performed on minors? I'm only asking because in the country I'm in, you have to be aged 18 or older and have been on hormone replacement therapy for at least a year before you're even eligible to be on the waitlist. And whilst I do feel bad for Jazz Jennings, the opposite could be argued that if she didn't take puberty blockers, she would've gone through male puberty and been left with irreversible affects such as a deeper voice, which to some might seem trivial, but to a lot of trans people having the right sounding voice is a lot more important to them than having sexual pleasure
@shrisiva4016
@shrisiva4016 Месяц назад
That's what happens already
@ericainspace
@ericainspace Месяц назад
@@blobbbe Yeah. I realized later I was misquoting something. It's only in Canada gender reassignment surgery hasn't been done on kids.
@Barb0nius
@Barb0nius Месяц назад
25:51 exactly! The overwhelming obsession with drag representation over anything else makes it feel like they're ignoring the rest of the community.
@jaxonturner3590
@jaxonturner3590 Месяц назад
The reason the NHS is so overworked because it's full of people enquiring about leg lengthening surgery taking up all the GPs time
@pandoriasbox
@pandoriasbox Месяц назад
I think people get so worked up about these things (regarding the "trans question") because they simply don't understand. I think the "would you be okay with if parents consented and kid consented the kid goes thru transition" is am extremely baity and bad faith question (and comparing it to leg surgery is even more baity) because when people think about transition they think about chop chop lower parts go bye bye and that's it, but that's NOT it. Before any type of surgery come hormones (reversible with very minimal leftover effects) and SOCIAL transitioning where the person adapts to their new identity and can make choices about how they are percieved- and if at ANY point during that process they regret it THEY CAN GO BACK! Surgery IS a life changing decision but surgery WILL NOT come when you are 8 or 9 or 10, it will come when you are 18, 19 or more- when you've been trans for YEARS and are ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY SURE that you want it. So the answer to "would it be okay for a kid to transition if they and their parents consent to it" is always yes because it's NOT PERMANENT! It's a long process that can be reversed, that will help whoever needs it A LOT and if you end up figuring out that you don't need it, you can just reverse it. Pyro's undecisiveness was warranted because he was being asked a narrowing, unfair question about a very broad and complex topic that is full of nuances (even worse- he was being asked an unrelated question the answer to which would later be extrapolated to a completely different topic). In general this was kind of upsetting to listen to honestly. But anyway, that's my piece, I'll fuck off now. Trans rights are human rights.
@poorpheasant69
@poorpheasant69 Месяц назад
holy based comment
@stacin821
@stacin821 Месяц назад
To the question of how old a child should be to access the internet, I feel that the question should be a little different. It should be how old someone should be to have their own personal cell phone with internet access. The reason is because when you have a cell phone w/internet, you never put it down & it is like a drug to kids. Also, it is pretty much impossible to monitor as a parent. It's turning out that it is a bad thing for adults. How can a child process the constant barage of crap. I don't think it's a coincidence that the world started going insane after around 2010 when the cell phone became available to everyone. I do have personal experience with this for what it is worth. I have a stepdaughter & if I could go back in time, I never never never would have given her a cell phone around the age of 13. It turned out to be a disaster.
@sleepingmorpheus
@sleepingmorpheus Месяц назад
32:30 Everyone has an opinion on something, whether they could change their opinion with more research or not they have one at any given moment. The only reason not to give an opinion is because you think it would end poorly for you, like the secret service director who kept saying "I'll have to refer you to the FBI" who said they'd "have to refer you to the secret service" when asked the same question. It's evading the question for Pyro to say he has no opinion, not answering it because he actually has no opinion, and that's evident by how he dances around saying "no they shouldn't" with his own example of getting height surgery being a bad decision no matter what.
@lsbc9666
@lsbc9666 Месяц назад
Pyro can't choose a side to save his life.
@sketch8988
@sketch8988 Месяц назад
calm 5 lines of coke on the ad read for colossal
@erinrees9786
@erinrees9786 Месяц назад
I actually can’t finish this video it’s sad the lack of research done and the lack of talking to people experiencing the topics talked about as a trans person I’m disappointed
@itsisaaax1932
@itsisaaax1932 Месяц назад
yeah its clear that colossal never even watched the full sneako/critikal "debate" or critikals response to it. Sucks that he cant even watch a video, while we have to live with the backlash of his opinions. No normal trans person defended cris tyson, no normal person defended sneako. I just wish they would do their research before debating real peoples lives.
@unraveki
@unraveki Месяц назад
26:38 wild sentence right there
@Shiki--
@Shiki-- Месяц назад
W Colossal, calling out bs left and right.
@OrificeHorus
@OrificeHorus Месяц назад
Sneako be a closet member of NAMBLA
@kazekami5513
@kazekami5513 Месяц назад
Seeing what charlie believes, he's a contender aswell.
@OrificeHorus
@OrificeHorus Месяц назад
​@kazekami5513 You DO realize that those are two majorly seperate issues right Nevermind, forgot who I'm talking too. It's impossible for your kind to comprehend that situations like this have grey areas.
@rusi6219
@rusi6219 Месяц назад
​@@OrificeHoruswhy does penguinz get the benefit of the doubt and there's always a discussion of "nuance" but despite sneako stating he's not pro p-philia and supporting that with linguistic evidence as well as the professional definitions in the mental health field he's still called a p-phile by you people without any shame whatsoever?
@LSD25
@LSD25 Месяц назад
@@rusi6219 a nonce is a nonce mate.
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