Cromwell vs 2 Panther tanks | September 1944 | Tank Duel

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In September 1944, a joint British-American force was sent to the village of Nederwetten, the Netherlands. During this advance, a Cromwell tank, commanded by Lt. Christopher Egerton, came across and engaged 2 German Panther tanks. In this video, I detail this engagement which has, for the past 80 years, been largely forgotten.
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@minuteman4199 2 года назад

War diaries are fascinating to read. I was a junior officer in a reserve armoured regiment in Canada. The regiment had fought in Sicily, Italy and North West Europe. The war diaries were in the Officer's mess library and I read a lot of them. Our Honorary Colonel at the time had been a squadron commander during those battles and often attended the mess to socialize so we got first hand accounts of those times.

@oliveradams1555 2 года назад

That's awesome, getting to experience history rather than just read it.

@davidcarr7436 2 года назад

What was the reserve regiment were you with?

@minuteman4199 2 года назад

@@davidcarr7436 Ont R.

@28pbtkh23 2 года назад

Very sad that Crump and Hide both died in action just a few weeks before the war's end.

@maxkennedy8075 2 года назад

Cromwell is such an underrated tank. Very fast, good cannon especially for support and armour not as weak as people think

@marcdavis4509 2 года назад

Unfortunately British industry was unable to cast or weld turrets at the time. Riveted armor is never ideal.

@maxkennedy8075 2 года назад

@@marcdavis4509 Our domestic Shermans had cast turrets, the Matilda had a cast turret and a cast hull and the entire front of the Tortoise was one massive casting. The UK had plenty of ability to do large and complex castings Yeah riveted armour is not great but the Crommie did have welded armour later and increased thickness

@irrelevant9023 2 года назад

Armor Not as weak? Hah!

@stevenbreach2561 2 года назад

Don't upset the Wehraboos!Having a fast,manouverable,reliable tank with a decent gun beating them,doesn't fit their prejudices

@stevenbreach2561 2 года назад

@@marcdavis4509 not rivetted,but armour plates bolted onto the turret

@RadioactiveSherbet 2 года назад

Crump deserved *some* kind of award for his gunnery. Knocking out a moving tank on the first shot is an incredible feat of gunnery, especially considering it was using WW2-era fire control technology.

@burningphoneix 2 года назад

I wonder what the range was to the Panther.

@petetimbrell3527 2 года назад

Burning Phoenix - It scales off at 600 - 650 metres. Ideal range against flank armour a couple inches thick.

@hughfranklin4002 Год назад

Crump fired 5 shells at 2 panthers and hit with all of them knocking out 2 tanks that is some shooting.

@manifestdestiny1191 Год назад

When I was a tank company XO, my tank's gunner (who shall not be named) was a horrible soldier... he was lazy, dull, not physically fit, and had no leadership ability. HOWEVER, he could shoot the wings off a fly at 3,500 meters while moving! Most skilled gunner I've ever seen I never saw him miss. Sometimes, that's all you need!

@nickgoodwood4812 10 месяцев назад

Remarkable that a Centaur was part of the troop. It was originally indented to only operate at D Day, day one and was painted in the 1940 brown paint, thus making for good camouflage at the beach. The 95mm howitzer proved to be a very good infantry support weapon, and all eighty Centaurs were used in the whole ETO after that day.

@dpeasehead 2 года назад

A perfect example of how being observant (maintaining situational awareness) and getting off the first accurate rounds is usually decisive.

@Rogue66669 2 года назад

Damn a month out from the end of the war in Europe, RIP Troopers Crump and Hide

@billbrockman779 2 года назад

KIA’s in the last months of the war depress me. There is a stained glass window in my church dedicated to an American lieutenant who was killed in April 1945. His family was clearly greatly moved to purchase the window.

@YARROWS9 2 года назад

@@billbrockman779 God bless these British, American and Canadian Soldiers who were fighting for the freedom of others, many miles from home.🇬🇧🇺🇸🇨🇦

@fusilier9276 2 года назад

Great story of a successful combined US/ British action, RIP Trooper Crump taken days before the end like so many were.

@lyndoncmp5751 2 года назад

Pity Band of Brothers episode 4 mocks and belittles British tankers of around this time (the 44th Royal Tank Regiment at Nuenen). Really annoys me, that episode.

@stevenbreach2561 5 месяцев назад

@@lyndoncmp5751It was made by septics what do you expect?

@stuartbennett7614 2 года назад

Yet again well presented and easy to understand with clear graphics im ex infantry and you are spot on at showing the British side of things of our forefathers giants of men .

@The3Lego3Freak 2 года назад

Always loved the Cromwell, especially the comet and centurion. Would love to see more videos of untold stories like this 👍

@DaveSCameron 2 года назад

Shout yes! 🙏 ❤️ 🇬🇧⚽🎵📚

@sg51psd04 2 года назад

Amen, well done brother. Another story to be lost to the annals of history but brought forth to the public today because you gave a shit. (Forgive the language, I'm a retired grunt.) I am encouraged by your commitment to history, dedication to those who served those and to the accuracy you strive to achieve. Huzzah!

@gregmcgrath4859 2 года назад

I note the only locals the paras could find to be photographed with happened to be young, blonde and female. Remarkable, that.

@iatsd 2 года назад

And going by the statistics, later on the Americans raped at least 2 of them.

@robertmartyr2041 2 года назад

damn they all should have gotten a medal especially for taking out not one but 2 panthers. shame on those who didn't see it fit for mr crump to get medal nor a mention in dispatches .

@alonsocushing2263 2 года назад

Typical giving a senior officer who wasn't even involved in the action an MC. Lt. Egerton should have got that MC and Trp Crump either an MM or DCM.

@weissmanhyperion9650 2 года назад

Unfortunately the medals are most likely going to be awarded to leadership roles, unless it's an act of individual valor. The tanks were driven out and destroyed because of the combined effort of the unit and thus its leadership is awarded the medal. Not saying the guys didn't deserve it but it is world war 2 and they can't award everyone that destroyed panther tanks medals. I think it's most likely the mission success and no casualties that played the biggest factor of leadership getting this medal.

@ToddSauve 2 года назад

One Canadian tanker took out five or six Panthers near Bretteville in Normandy around June 9, 1944 with his Firefly and got no medal for it. His CO said "Why should he get a medal for just doing his job?" That was what you got in WW2. 🤷‍♂️

@alonsocushing2263 2 года назад

@@ToddSauve His CO probably got a medal though.

@ToddSauve 2 года назад

@@alonsocushing2263 Not in his particular case but I do understand what you are saying. When all is said and done in this life, it is God we have to satisfy and if someone is greedy, pushing other people down so they can climb the ladder, God sees all that and it will figure into your fate. Better to be a person of upright character because that is all we carry out of here when our day is done. And compare how often Victoria Crosses are given out compared to Congressional Medals of Honor. There is a really _stark_ difference! And I am not trying to besmirch anyone's courage, so don't anybody jump on my case for stating that! But here are the numbers. 1,358 Victoria Crosses to 3,527 Medals of Honor. It is clear which is harder to win. 🤷‍♂️

@gooner72 2 года назад

Outstanding job by the British armoured units and an outstanding job by you for, yet again, a fantastic video mate...... well done!!

@davidrussell8689 2 года назад

Thanks to your efforts real heroes will never be forgotten.

@lex1945 2 года назад

Your uploads are always a treat!

@JohnRodriguesPhotographer 2 года назад

The 75 mm firing armor piercing rounds into the flank of a panther is highly effective. The armor on the flanks was totally inadequate to the task. My dad who was six Armored Division in the US Army and commanding Sherman's, told me you always wanted to maneuver for a flank shot, or engine shot on German Panthers, tigers and King tigers. That and the tracks were the weakest points on the vehicles.

@bathhatingcat8626 2 года назад

Shoot the flank on a tank? No way. That’s brilliant!!

@MikeBrown-go1pc 2 года назад

I have destroyed many Panthers in War Thunder from side shots with the same 75mm gun, but only on an M24 Chaffe. 35-45 mm side armour was really only to stop big manned anti-tank guns like the 14.5mm, and maybe shoulder launched stuff sometimes. They definitely made the Panther to point front at the danger. They could only put so much armour on them or it would basically just turn into a Tiger II. Now the US 75mm would have a hard time going through the side of one of those. 80mm sides.

@JohnRodriguesPhotographer 2 года назад

@@MikeBrown-go1pc I hope you understand you're talking about game experience and I'm talking about a soldier's experience in combat that was my father. There is definitely differences between game and real combat.

@MikeBrown-go1pc 2 года назад

@@JohnRodriguesPhotographer No kidding? I had thought they were exactly the same. What is the same is the dimensions, armour thickness, velocity and angles. People having a hard time picking up humor these days.

@JohnRodriguesPhotographer 2 года назад

@@MikeBrown-go1pc sorry I wasn't meaning to be offensive to you. I have had people question and not so pleasant terms the experiences of members of my family in combat. Sincere apologies if I did make you feel offended. I am also sorry if I'm misinterpreted your comment it wasn't my intention. I try not to throw rocks of people on here and I was trying to make my comment as little sarcasm as possible. You know I had an uncle that was Airborne Ranger, and my father that was 6th Armored Division, landed D-Day +26, fought all the way to Prague Czechoslovakia. My started his army career in 1939. He was involved with the troops that were testing the tanks to decide what design was best to incorporate in the army. The testing included the Christy suspension system. I'm telling you this because I want you to understand he wasn't just a draftee thrown into a tank. Not only was he a very experienced tanker, he survived it and continued on to a full career in the army. He often talked about fighting the German tanks and the best way to do it. Enjoy your gaming. Not my cup of tea but that's okay. Have fun when you can. God bless and keep safe

@t.j.payeur5331 2 года назад

Thanks..I know a hell of a lot about WW2 and I've never heard of this incident. Nothing like having a good shot on your team...

@asullivan4047 Год назад

Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what the orator was describing. Class A research project!!! Special thanks to veteran tankers sharing personal information/combat experiences. Making this documentary more authentic and possible. Fighting/perishing/surviving knowing certain death/debilitating wounds were often times possible. Yet still advanced forward regardless of the consequences. That's true grit style determination to succeed!!!

@alanmcintosh8087 2 года назад

They've been recognised now thanks to your efforts in commemoration, Appreciated

@JimRogers-oc2jd 4 месяца назад

Good review! My dad served with the Royals, and in the same campaign. But he mostly drove Daimler armored resonance vehicles! He must have missed this one, but would have loved to hear the review. As it was; the tanks had a limited radio range (only 5 miles) Resonance Demimers had radios which was better then most so they were set in a lines 5 miles apart. So may have beed more scattered!

@7Starslayer7 Год назад

as a german and panzer enthusiast, i have to say the cromwell is my favourite allied tank! He just looks so cool, a bit like a miniature tiger, nice proportions and the big bolts give it an almost medieval knightly feel. No sleek curves, just raw and brutal without useless sheananigans.

@crumpetcommandos779 Год назад

i think that view can be given to a lot of british equipment, it's quite brutalist and rough, like the sten for instance as a brit my favourite german tank is probably the panzer 3

@7Starslayer7 Год назад

@@crumpetcommandos779 true. Have loads of respect for the british military! :)

@crumpetcommandos779 Год назад

@@7Starslayer7 as i do for germany

@markwebster5749 2 года назад

We will remember them 🇬🇧💪

@conmcgrath7174 2 года назад

ordinary decent men, sadly lost from us. Pax Vobiscum.

@rogerkay8603 2 года назад

Huzzah for the Hussars! Trooper Crump, great shooting, RIP mate.🥀

@GreatPolishWingedHussars 2 года назад

Hussars? :)

@rogerkay8603 2 года назад

@@GreatPolishWingedHussars 15/19 King's Royal Hussars

@barrymerchant3320 2 года назад

@@rogerkay8603 i have the great honour to have served 12 years in the 15th/19th The Kings Royal Hussars

@rogerkay8603 2 года назад

@@barrymerchant3320 Nice one, thanks mate

@stevenbreach2561 5 месяцев назад

So much for the invincible Wunderwaffe.The Cromwell was a cracking tank that sacrificed heavy armour for speed

@juanzulu1318 3 месяца назад

Dont be silly. Basicslly all tanks are vulnerable at the sides against the average ATgun. And no, the Panther was far from being slow.

@stephenobrien5909 2 года назад

Sadly Crump and Hide were killed at the wars end, just a few more days and they would have survived. RIP.

@Invicta556 2 года назад

These 2 too 3 days from 19th to 21st were a cluster for Panzer Brigade 107. I must admit 11th Armored Div and 101st Div plus attachments did a outstanding job they really put there foot down in this area (Son) and gave the Germans a bloody nose (Particularly on the 21st knocking a few Panthers out). The Germans lost around 7 Panthers in this short period (19th-21st) before their main attack on Hells Highway ( Veghel on the 22nd) and onwards after that attack failed it was a race with VII Corps (O'Connor) too stop them breaching towards Overloon. Imo Panzer Brigade 107 was new and really was rushed about too much, Von Maltzahn there commander was not happy in how late they arrived but then again Panzer Brigades are very diffrent operationally too a Division due too size etc. I recommend Kampfgruppe Walther & Panzerbrigade 107 by Didden, Jack & Swarts, Maarten. Honestly a amazing book on this.

@lyndoncmp5751 2 года назад

Pity then how episode 4 of Band of Brothers makes these British tankers out to be akin to clueless idiots.

@wiggles877 2 года назад

A video on Lt. Gordon Henry. He commanded 3rd troop of C Sqn, 1st Hussars in his Firefly la Comtesse du Feu. His tanks destroyed 5 Panthers with 5 shots in a few minutes and was lining up for a 6th kill when his troop Sgt. Art Boyle's tank destroyed it. When someone asked why he wasn't awarded for this feat, his Brigadier said, "We're not giving out gongs for doing your job. You're job is to kill tanks, you kill tanks. Good for you, keep up the good work."

@randomlyentertaining8287 2 года назад

One thing I've noticed is with a lot of pictures of knocked out Tigers, Panthers, and King Tigers is that their guns and bodies are situated in such a way that shows they were engaging targets without having their frontal armor facing the enemy. Would explain why so many, especially Panthers, were seemingly easily knocked out without the attacker needing to maneuver despite their frontal armor being largely immune to Allied tank and anti-tank fire.

@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 2 года назад

Let’s raise a glass for Troopers Crump and Hide.

@alanimals 2 года назад

Well done lads from the 4th/7th Royal Dragoon Guards.

@stevenbreach2561 2 года назад

And "The Skins",5th RIDG.FTW,QS

@royhayes-ry6rw Год назад

and from ex 2nd Troop 15/19H@@stevenbreach2561

@kanth66 Год назад

This looks like the episode of Band of Brothers with the Cromwell

@Andrew8533 2 года назад

As is the case alot of the times, officers getting awards for the OR's actions. RIP lads 🙏

@iatsd 2 года назад

Yes, the tank just magically deployed on it's own and found the targets all by itself for the gunner. the OC wasn't doing anything, including not commanding the rest of his troop at the same fvcking time as he was engaging mutiple vehicles.

@Andrew8533 2 года назад

@@iatsd Get the officers phallus out ya mouth! Haha

@shaunwalker2557 2 года назад

@@Paratus7 no...they end up dead because of officers mistakes....and the officers were first out..

@mattwordsworth9825 2 года назад

If it wasn't for the Cromwell then there would be no Comet

@DaveSCameron 2 года назад

The Lord Protector indeed ✔️🇬🇧

@KathrynLiz1 2 года назад

My dad commanded a Cromwell at one time in Holland... he didn't like them a lot... apparently they had some shortcomings, lack if ventilation being one...... later in the war he was in a Cromwell that took a 88 round in Germany.... the tank was on a pontoon bridge and fell into the Rhine.... it was a hot day and the turret hatch was open...... dad was the only one to get out... the others all drowned......

@alanmcintosh8087 2 года назад

Sore but but proud tale, take care

@shaunwalker2557 2 года назад

like i said officers.....first out

@brustar5152 Год назад

@@shaunwalker2557 Most tank commanders were not officers.

@Chironex_Fleckeri Год назад

@@shaunwalker2557 That's part of the deal. You don't want your Colonels getting picked off. Look at a modern conflict where so many unit commanders of a particular side have become casualties. It's unfathomable. You can't afford to lose the organization of your forces. Command and control is easier when you protect your officers. They do get special treatment because they're more important than a single grunt when it comes down to a serious war. See Douglas MacArthur retreating from the Philippines. That said, agreed with the other comment. A tank commander is not necessarily an officer. Likely an NCO. Possibly senior NCO. In the last 30 years, US and British tank crews have been drilled and prepared extensively, much more so than when the Second WW demanded a lot of inexperienced tank crews going into combat.

@charlescth 2 года назад

Just to be pedantic! It is 15th/19th King's Royal Hussars (15/19H) not 15/19th... and Capt not Cpt! I was a Captain (Capt) in the 16th/5th The Queen's Royal Lancers (16/5L). But an excellent video!

@barrymerchant3320 2 года назад

more pedantic the 15th/19th The Kings Royal Husars, I served 12 years in this great regiment.

@Maxyshadow Год назад

Thanks for this wonderful video.

@iantobanter9546 2 года назад

78 years on it's good to see Dutch farmers maintaining the torch of freedom against totalitarian oppression.

@Nathan-ng1jt 2 года назад

Only just found your channel. Excellent research, succinct delivery and wonderfully absent of politics, conjecture or opinion.

@GhostvaperYT 2 года назад

very interestign i took history and passed we learnt about ww1, ww2, falklands, vietnam, the arab israeli conflict and a lot more but NEVER had i heard of this battle and these names. thank you for enlightening me on this.

@MasouShizuka 2 года назад

Cromwells are a hell of a tank.

@davidhardiman9603 2 года назад

The talent of Crump and Hide was critical. God bless them.

@bmused55 2 года назад

It annoys me that we have historical moments of the Cromwell taking out supposedly superior tanks, but in just about any war game sim, the same rounds from a Cromwell bounce off the same targets, serving only to let said target know that an enemy tank is near by. The Cromwell was a good tank for it's day. It was fast and manouverable and had a pretty good gun that was able to kill most enemy vehicles it was likely to encounter. Sadly, game developers seem to think British Tanks = Weak crap and so make them that way.

@Scimiter1948 2 года назад

I could not agree more.

@TypeKK Месяц назад

It's a slander for Brits 😔

@Devilsgreedybelly 2 года назад

Why they didn't put this story in Band of brother's episode's specifically when in Eindhoven I'll never know, however I get it my brother likes to tell tales of me screwing up rather than tales of me excelling I suppose ☺️ great upload buddy

@chuckhaggard1584 5 месяцев назад

Excellent video, I’m glad I stumbled across it

@badweetabix Год назад

4 hits out of 4 shots is quite a feat given the fire control technology of the period.

@MagpieOz 2 года назад

Unlikely to have been a Centaur. I think you will find it was a Cromwell CS

@lyndoncmp5751 2 года назад

Pity Band of Brothers episode 4 mocks and belittles British tankers of around this time (the 44th Royal Tank Regiment at Nuenen). Really annoys me, that episode.

@nickdanger3802 2 года назад

Can you be more vague?

@philhawley1219 2 года назад

Here is another mispronunciation. They are not in the cavalry called Dra. goons. That was a BBC comedy show on the Light Program

@flyingtigers7856 2 года назад

Go start your own RU-vid military history channel ya flog and come back when you've got almost a quarter of a million subs!! Seriously, delete your comment ya knob SMH...

@SunKing968 2 года назад

WONDERFUL thanks

@vickyking3408 2 года назад

Would have liked a bit more detail, how did the cromwell out flank the Panther,did the US para's scout out the targets,hiw come the scout car was never attacked by the germans,enjoyed it through

@meatbap 2 года назад

my new favourite youtube channel

@robbabcock_ 2 года назад

Great video!

@philkelly8031 2 года назад

Brave men that will never be forgotten Lest we Forget all that served their country

@SGusky 2 года назад

Wow Amazing and sad at the end

@anthonyat2401 Год назад

Excellent presentation; thanks.

@tonybennett7145 2 года назад

Great feat of achievement against powerful German armour. Why is it we never recognise our own but, prefer to hype up others?

@johndue2366 2 года назад

It is very British to honour the leaders and forget about the common man that did the deed

@jakublulek3261 2 года назад

Because if common man fails, leaders bear responsibility and are punished.

@iatsd 2 года назад

Yes. the gunner was a good shot. And? He wasn't finding the targets. He wasn't directing the tank. He wasn't commanding a troop at the same time as engaging multiple vehicles. He wasn't responsible for ~25 men. He wasn't coordinating with the other troops and the infantry. Hell, the gunner wasn't even the one calling the ammo loading. But yeah, let's all pretend the OC did nothing and the guy that did the shooting (his only job) is the one that deserves all the medals and the officer was just along for the ride.

@stevenbreach2561 2 года назад

I must agree with iatsd,even though I was a Cold War gunner on Cheiftain,the TC is the "conductor" of the tank orchestra

@nbandpinportugal 2 года назад

Lovely way to remember them.

@jameslukaszewicz2029 9 месяцев назад

The Cromwell crew were more aggressive than the initial Comet, in the 'Comet v Tiger' story. There the commander flunked it, when he saw the Tiger.

@MikeBrown-go1pc 2 года назад

Man, these guys got KIA right near the end.

@Dartslegend 2 года назад

Heroes

@not-a-theist8251 2 года назад

It's a shame that the rest of the crew weren't regognized on any qay

@pzkpfw2310 2 года назад

Would love to see you do a video on the Tongo Tongo ambush in 2017

@Theearthtraveler 2 года назад

Good show!!

@garycrosby4792 2 года назад

Thank you. No bull, just the facts well related

@sirnuggetsboi9758 2 года назад

since I thought this was posted on april fools,it would be a breakdown of the FURY tank scene

@dude126 Год назад

The allocation of decorations never seems fair.

@thijs6264 2 года назад

Great video

@dimitryrostov6482 2 года назад

Can you do the battles for hostomel airport 2022 asap?

@ca9968 2 года назад

Yeah, British Doctrine..the toffee nosed Rupert will always get the medal over any rank under him...

@flyingtigers7856 2 года назад

And Australia has inherited that British Doctrine. Ruperts patting each other on the back and giving each other decorations, while the enlisted men have to move heaven and earth for recognition.

@camrenwick Год назад

Soldiers doing their job, but officers taking the glory. RIP lads.

@juanzulu1318 3 месяца назад

Same as in civilian life. Things will never change

@roybennett9284 2 года назад

If only they didn't bgo a bridge too far..where was the air support, apparently the Dutch had an exercise involving the very thing that the Allies were doing..it was found that a small detachment could hold up a far superior force,as there is only an elevated highway for progress.

@spunkospunko4800 2 года назад

Enjoyed this thanks mate rule Britannia 4shots 4 hits ,,av it

@kalanichandler2075 2 года назад

even though german tanks were thought to be superior it does show that a worse tank with a good crew can be just as good

@Lassisvulgaris 2 года назад

The problem with German tanks, is that they had strong front armour, but weaker at the sides and rear. Of course, a good crew will realize this, and go for the waeker armour.

@GreatPolishWingedHussars 2 года назад

That wasn't a bad tank! The Cromwell tank was a good tank due to its excellent mobility. The tank was praised for its speed and also for its reliable an powerful engine, while its low profile made it harder to spot. The tank was half a meter lower than a Panther tank. The 1st Polish Armored Division also successful used this tank by the way. The German tanks are always overrated and the tanks of the enemies of the Germans are actually always underrated.

@Kevin-mx1vi 2 года назад

The Panther was only superior on paper. According to The Chieftain it was not an easy tank for its crew to get maximum potential out of, which immediately lowers its theoretical superiority and brings it more into line with the Cromwell, which may have been technically inferior but was actually very good at the job it was designed for.

@juanzulu1318 3 месяца назад

@@Kevin-mx1vina, thats not quite correct. The Panther was an excellent medium tank at that time, on paper as well as on the battlefield (after solving the first issues). The point of this story is not about tanks but about the fact that the first sight is so important in tank battle, especially if it allows u to create an ambush situation like in this case.

@Ralphieboy 2 года назад

Feats like this tend to get overlooked when the overall operation was a massive failure as was the case with Market Garden.

@lyndoncmp5751 2 года назад

Market Garden was not a massive failure. It took 100km of German held ground in 3 days. It was actually the fastest allied advance against German opposition in the entire September 1944 to February 1945 period. Market Garden was 90% successful. It got British 2nd Army closer to Germany, the Germans lost Eindhoven and Nijmegen and a protective buffer zone in front of Antwerp was created. The Hurtgen Forest and Lorraine were far bigger failures than Market Garden.

@Ralphieboy 2 года назад

An advance in the wrong direction and with losses of elite troops in no way commensurate with the limited gains. Imagine if those resources had been directed farther south.

@lyndoncmp5751 2 года назад

Paul 1. It was not an attack in the wrong direction. British 2nd Army used the ground taken in Market Garden for their advance into Germany in 1945. The British and Canadian advance to the Rhine via the Reichswald took place from the Nijmegen area, captured during Market Garden. Market Garden also created a protective buffer zone in front of Antwerp. 2. Far more resources WERE used to the south. The US 1st Army attacked into the Hurtgen Forest and towards Aachen with many more forces, and also failed. With 4 times the casualties. Patton had already stalled and failed to take Metz before Market Garden was even decided on. Patton kept failing to take Metz until well into November.

@Toranaboy634 Год назад

It's pronounced 'edgerton' but otherwise, thanks for this video.

@philsosshep4834 2 года назад

Sounds like to me the lieutenant egerton was a man from the ranks if he had joined in 39 ?

@philsosshep4834 2 года назад

@@madisntit6547 well that would explain a lot ,but he does look a lot older in that picture than 21 but then again so do many people back then.

@ivorbiggun710 2 года назад

@@philsosshep4834 After all they had seen I guess it's no wonder they looked old for their age. Egerton may well have come through the ranks, as you mention. My own granddad joined in 39 as a private and ended the War as a Lieutenant Colonel.

@Rusty_Gold85 2 года назад

I've been reading and viewing excerpts of war heroism for a long time and it constantly disturbs me how medals are dished out to commission officers so quickly and readily , and the trooper or private gets to stay in the foxhole.

@jakublulek3261 2 года назад

It is about responsibility. If an individual soldier fails, he gets killed, maybe his friend gets killed. If an officer fails, many people get killed and part of the front can collapse. He bears much bigger responsibility, so he gets more rewarded.

@Balangair1 2 года назад

@@jakublulek3261 Exactly.

@madzen112 2 года назад

Even in WarThunder this would've been extraordinary.

@juanzulu1318 3 месяца назад

How so?

@juanzulu1318 3 месяца назад

Well, to be fair, this wasnt an extraordinary performance by the Cromwell crew. It was basically an ambush situation in which the Germans moved in.

@alexanderleach3365 2 года назад

Even inferior tanks like the Cromwell and trump over tanks like the Panther with good crews and better tactics.

@Lassisvulgaris 2 года назад

More like knowing that German tanks had strong frontal armour, and weaker sides and rear.

@ivorbiggun710 2 года назад

Depends what you mean by inferior, really. The Cromwell was faster and more manoeuvrable, cheaper to build and more reliable.

@alexanderleach3365 2 года назад

@@ivorbiggun710 and superior numbers

@Peoples_Republic_of_Devonshire 2 года назад

The Cromwell had different strengths and weaknesses to the Panther but it wasn't inferior

@gavincross2902 2 года назад

Typical Officer Commanding to take the medal and not recommend the supreme skills of the crew of the cromwell tank for awards.

@accousticdecay 2 года назад

Brave men

@williamromine5715 2 года назад

How do of 4 rounds fired at the second tank, 3 of them hit the front of the Panther, and the 4th hits the engine? Also, the tank commander gets a medal, but the gunner gets nothing? Something fishy about this one. Well done video though.

@Davey-Boyd 2 года назад

It was said the first rounds hit the drivers compartment. That could be hit from the front or side. The engine can be hit from the rear or the side. So they were presumably side shots.

@williamromine5715 2 года назад

@@Davey-Boyd Sounds reasonable. Still think the gunner should have been recognized. Damn good good shooting in the middle of battle. Especially since they were not expecting an armored defense.

@Davey-Boyd 2 года назад

@@williamromine5715 Totally agree with you on that!

@crumpetcommandos779 2 года назад

@@williamromine5715 hell yeah crump should've got some recognition for his aim

@barthoving2053 2 года назад

@@Davey-Boyd In theory you can hit the engine compartment even with a angled front shot. If picture of 6:00 is the panther in question. They either shot the side from between the house at what probably would be extremely close range and really out from where the Cromwell was depicted (5:00) or down the road and with the panther turret pointing the other way the pressure to shoot and move. And that would still relative close range between 400-500m.

@hansmiseur3025 Год назад

Panther, in all its glory, can be defeated quite easily by a flankshot from even a 40mm AT gun. Tiger had pretty much equal armor all around, so despite all of its flaws, you can see why it was considered a significant threat unless you had 76mm's or fireflies around.

@juanzulu1318 3 месяца назад

Basically all tanks can be defeated quite easily from the flanks.

@hansmiseur3025 3 месяца назад

@@juanzulu1318 Yes and the tiger was an exception, its side armor was only slightly thinner than the front.

@peterrichards851 Год назад

The real heroes..

@walklej 2 года назад

Time you learnt to pronounce Egerton!

@alanfox3606 2 года назад

As per normal the officer corp are the one,s to be recognised and decorated , the rest of the team appear not to have been part of the action./Funny how it appear,s that the only member of the crew the officer is the only man to be decorated for this action.

@jakublulek3261 2 года назад

Because he had the ultimate responsibility for that action! Tell me, is it a brick layer or his boss who is responsible when building falls down? Leader is responsible for actions of his underlings, and their failures.

@iatsd 2 года назад

@its_cyfa 2 года назад

RIP

@geoffreypiltz271 2 года назад

Great shooting with a gun that had comparatively poor armour piercing capabilities.

@stevenbreach2561 2 года назад

That made up for it with a high rate of fire

@coryboren1963 2 года назад

Engaging comment.

@crumpetcommandos779 2 года назад

engaging response.

@GreatPolishWingedHussars 2 года назад

The German tanks are always overrated and the tanks of the enemies of the Germans are actually always underrated.

@davidedbrooke9324 2 года назад

Bit like their cars nowadays.

@GreatPolishWingedHussars 2 года назад

@@davidedbrooke9324 Yeah right!

@davidedbrooke9324 2 года назад

@@GreatPolishWingedHussars Ah sarcasm, I love it!

@GreatPolishWingedHussars 2 года назад

@@davidedbrooke9324 I love to be sarcastic also when it's appropriate.

@davidedbrooke9324 2 года назад

@@GreatPolishWingedHussars of course we English are masters at it! Most don’t get it! 😉

@bennytsai4065 2 года назад

gee i wonder why The Band of Brothers never mention this... lol bloody bias yanks

@norwegianwiking 2 года назад

Wrong Battalion of the 506th, E coy was 2 Bn.

@ivorbiggun710 2 года назад

The scene where they were fighting alongside British tanks was utterly ridiculous, insulting and disrespectful but that's Hollywood for you. Morally bankrupt.

@lightfootpathfinder8218 2 года назад

@@ivorbiggun710 I totally agree .. it was an insult to the fighting men of the British army

@bennytsai4065 2 года назад

@@ivorbiggun710 i find so ironic they were doing that scene in UK and i’m surprise no reaction from British historians on that shitshow

@barrymerchant3320 2 года назад

the actual event was completely different to the one shown in BoB, the tanks were from A Sqn 15/19H, there was not a Sherman involved, they also didn't see the German Tanks in the village, as they were engaged from out side the buildup, they could not move off the road, due to the very wet polder, as they would of bogged down. However the ruling of minimising destruction to civvy property was in force. After the troop leader was approached by the troops on the ground, they continued to advance to the edge of the build up, that is where the first contact was made and the first tank was taken out. The rest of the troop withdrew to cover, with the ground troops following them. How do I know, it;s because I was told the story by 3 of the crewmen who were there , when I served in A Sqn, The 15th/19th The Kings Royal Hussars.