Crying Over THE DARK KNIGHT | Movie Reaction | FIRST TIME WATCHING 

Indeed Heath's death happened by accident, he wasnt suicidal and didnt mean to take his own life. He overdosed by accident. But in way I guess you can say that this role took his life, because he put so much effort and work on it that it made the problems he had before worse. Jack Nicholson had actually warned him about the role, although I guess that was more of a joke he made.

@@Balnazzardi that'd be correlation not causation.

@@Balnazzardi Jack Nicholson clarified a few days after that statement that the warning was on reference to mixing pills, not taking the role.

@@wheresthecomedy5808 ah ok well that I didnt know 😅 thanks for clarifying

He literally took all the drugs.....the statement says he mixed drugs

Do you believe that years later watching the performance he gives? Bc i want to, but its hard to believe

@@SoVHitman uh yes or he wouldn’t have commented that? Trouble sleeping you get prescribed pills or get them another way, build a tolerance / mix the wrong ones & overdose not that tough to understand, a classic tale of tolerance or mis dosing & overdosing, nothing new

@@scotthill1600 i mean i get that but hes a/was a method actor so once in character, he cant get out till hes done with the role. Im sure he was normal when not recording but idk, it seems like he got so into it, maybe after shooting was done, he couldnt get out. I believe it was accidental obviously too, but its hard to believe it wasnt also the role adding on to the pills and sleeping stuff.

@@sparkie4604 well thats a given but it just seems they would say nicer things now and after his passing to maybe help ease ppl dealing with it. Or something like that

@@scotthill1600 I heard he told Bale to actually hit him or something in the questioning room scene

100%. It's the same trick he pulled in the police department, flipping Rachel and Harvey's locations.

I’m not the Joker, but if I was, I feel like I would feel more successful getting one of the boats to give up their morals and let Gotham see them actually murder the other boat and have to live with it the rest of their lives.

gmdwill. Well, if you look at it this way, they'd still be murdering people on their own boats if indeed they had the detonator to their own boat. And Joker wanted to make an example of that to the entire city. That someone Did push the button. Point is, it was a win win for the Joker either way. Joker lost when no-one pushed the button. So he was prepared to do it himself anyway. Till of course, Batman intervened.

I'd say top 100 for sure.

​@brandocalrissian3294 top 100 but it's personally my top 5

Harvey even says it's carbon fiber, so presumably it wouldn't be caught at a metal detector.

I went to court when I was 18 & had my parents with me, they work in local government & know almost all of the cops. When we got to security parents & the security had a short talk bc they know each other & one of the police officers even apologized that we had to be there for court. wasn’t put through the metal detectors or searched in any kind of way. Could have easily had a gun in my bean boots or just under my jacket in the waistband, could have had an ankle holster. (I obviously would never do that but could have) given there’s 3/4 cops in the lobby, another 2 at the doors into the courtroom & 3 more in the court room with the local sheriff all in uniform & armed & the sherrifs department & city police headquarters a block away. All just to say that yeah corrupt cops or knowing the right ppl & it would be extremely easy to get a gun into a court room. I was proven innocent in court & my record is clean btw

@@slmott399 Kinda true, but a lot was once made of "carbon fibre" guns, just as a lot is made now of 3D-printed "ghost guns". I think Hugh Laurie had the best response to the idea in his book "The Gun Seller" (IIRC): "Even if the gun doesn't get picked-up, it's hard to pass-off the 17 rounds in the magazine as lipstick refills". Same kinda deal with "ghost guns"; wake me when they manage to 3D print a barrel, a chamber, the propellant-containing section of a round, or the rest of the components of a gun that must withstand extremely-high pressures and temperatures and therefore have to be metal, meaning they have to be cast in large-scale easily-monitorable facilities (zip guns are a bit of a different story (eg. the device used to assassinate Shinzo Abe some years back), but they're only good for one shot, and even they need metal barrels and chambers). In fact, might be accurate to say that 3D "ghost guns" are as much of a threat as zip guns ever were, ie. "not much".

@@michaelccozens Printed guns are pretty much expected to be single shot, so their durability is not so much an issue. But getting the bullet through the detector would still be hard.

@@scotthill1600 nice story bro

Yeah, it's crazy that sometimes people just say "BUT HE IS THE GOOD GUY!".......

Let's not forget manslaughter in the case of Ra's al Ghoul, Invasion of Privacy from the cell phone sonar, he's committed kidnapping both domestic and internationally after smuggling himself into a foreign country, and I somehow doubt he has legal permits for literally any weapon he carries that functions as a projectile or explosive. Batman is a hard criminal full stop. He's a criminal that uses his criminal activity as a means of reducing the crime rate but he's a criminal nonetheless. That's the point of the movie; interrogating if solving crime by flagrantly violating the law is conducive to long-term peace. The film itself doesn't quite land on a definitive conclusion to the question because it's a hard one to answer but this is why I snicker and face palm everytime I hear somebody asking "How is Batman a criminal?"

Very presumptuous of you to think that we didn't >< It's also known as a Chelsea smile down south. In Glasgow there's numerous facial scars given to people to signify different things. They're punishments given to let other people know what you did...allegedly. -Steejo

@@SuzySteejo If you mentioned it in your reaction, I must have missed it and I apologize.

​@@SuzySteejoif I may ask how do y'all know Abraham Lincoln? He's an American president I didn't think he's known outside here.

@Dm.Suzy_Steejo..on. Holy crap are you serious!! I live in the United States.

Pretty sure that's been debunked.

the brief pause during the hospital exploding scene was unplanned

True, but depends what you mean by "plan". If a "plan" is a set of actions with a specific outcome in mind, Joker doesn't really have those. Instead, he creates situations in which people have to make fundamental moral choices. He doesn't know what choice they're going to make, but he's willing to bet pretty heavily on his assumptions, like that his bank-heist gang would all choose to betray each other and leave him with all the cash and no living associates to flip on him.

Who tf cares

and any of 007?? Were you in cave?😧

Well that whole talk.. I mean it 100% applies to the next movie. And hope they remember it.

"It's not about the money, it's about sending a message." Another fitting and prophetic line for today's media.

Hahaha he ha and I thought my jokes were bad

And what happened during Covid? These so called "civilized" people? They'll eat each other.....

@@DocMicrowave Sadly you got that right.

I also think he tailors the stories to affect the person he's talking too honestly. Like his "wife" with Rachel, father figure with Gambol. :)

🤔That's why I don't accept Joaquin Phoenix's Joker as a real Joker movie because the real Joker doesn't have a true origin story, he has multiple choices😁

@@WillsonT011 your logic is backwards. The Joker is a man, he therefor has a "backstory" implicitly. The "multiple choice" nature of his backstory is a result of his delusions, which is evident in Joker. It would make sense that the longer he lives within a web of delusion, the more uncertain his memories would become.

doesn't the Killing Joke also show his definitive origin story as a man who had a "really" bad day

@@Negentropy369 The Joker is not a man, he is a comic book character. Therefore he doesn't 'have' to have a backstory nor is it 'implicit' that he does have a true origin, quite the opposite in fact.

Batman begins is the best not the dark knight

@@demoncyborg8700 lol no

@@fkaiba94 the best batman movie is dark knight because of just one fucking person... the Joker?

@@demoncyborg8700 lol I'm not going to argue.

I would say Dark Knight Rises is the Best Batman movie. Dark Knight or ZSJL is the best movie with Batman in it. And there both probably the best superhero movies. The Batman is probably the best Gotham movie besides Batman Returns

he actually auditioned to play Batman originally but Nolan thought Bale was a better choice, but he loved Cillian's audition and wanted him in his film. Very cool.

And "The Machinist". You won't forget that one.

Never saw Either.. I want to now. My first movie with Christian Bale was Equilibrium

Just like the Joker we're all one bad day from becoming exactly like him. An agent of chaos who just wants to watch the world burn.

For real. Most people don't even bother to do a basic search about what happened and just keep perpetuating the myth that the role is what killed Heath when it was an accidental overdose. It's disrespectful to his memory.

Though in Long Halloween it was implied he was also one of the killers at one point and that was before the accident.

I loved aaron eckharts performance but its shadowed by heath’s. With good reason, his joker is the best. But i thought the harvy/2face character was really well done and original. Especially the transition and that book frame hint in the beginning

No such thing as good and evil. Humans are risen apes not fallen angels. We do what we do, good and evil for animalistic reasons. If you don't do wrong, you have exposed yourself to the temptation that exists in the world and are sheltered.

💯

Definitely showing it to my kids in the future

Sin city is the greatest comic book movie ever made. It followed the comic perfectly and the cast looked exactly like their characters.

@@brandocalrissian3294 that doesn’t mean Sin City is the best. It just means it’s the most loyal. It’s not a better film than “The Dark Knight”

Iron Man 1 is better

@@Mannyhdz0052 😂 😭 oh man, wow… I needed a good laugh… thanks man.

He’s gorgeous. He was brilliant in Bates motel lol

Would love to see them watch lost

@@sarahe1491 i havent seen any reactors watch lost. Ill have to browse around. It's a show that gets sillier as time goes on but the character development and acting is second to none in my opinion. Very emotional and relatable show.

Fun fact: in LOST, another guy actually calls him "the guy with the eyeliner".

@@Grimlock1979 Classic Sawyer🤣

There is a theory btw that Dent knew the Joker was holding the hammer and that was the whole point, he was supposed to notice. The joker was doing the same thing to Dent that Dent did the whole film to other people prior to that: offering a fake opportunity with the coin. The toss of the coin was useless because Dent never had a real chance of killing the joker, just like Dent never gave a real chance to other people before that with the trick coin. Basically the joker was proving the point he made earlier to Dent: random chance is the only real equalizer, it is the only fairness possible, by stopping the hammer the joker was preventing it to prove his point. From that moment on Dent starts actually using random chance instead of "making his own luck".

I've heard that theory, but I don't think it's accurate. I think the finger-placement is coincidental. First, hammers have a lot more force than you might expect, so holding it with a finger, especially in that position, probably isn't happening (even the manuals for such weapons strenuously insist that de-cocking should be avoided at all costs, and if it must be done, you do it by putting your whole hand in between the hammer and the chamber, not by relying on one finger). Second, it simply doesn't follow from what we know of Joker's character. He doesn't offer false choices, because he doesn't want the people who choose to do horrific things to have the excuse of pretending they were forced to do it. Tricking people doesn't serve his purpose, which is to offer indisputable proof of his assertion that human civilization is, as he says, "a bad joke".

@@michaelccozens It would make sense if the whole point of that specific thing was to change Dent's mindset, not to prove a point about civilization (there was no audience there except Dent after all). I think the Joker wanted to prove a point about human nature with the boats, not necessarily with Dent. I think Dent was an ace up his sleeve. In case the joker didn't manage to fulfil his goal, he would make sure all the criminals went free, undoing Batman and Dent's legacy, and destroying a symbol of justice for the city in the process. I don't know much about guns so afaik you could be right about the hammer. If you are it could be a mistake or it could be that the whole thing wasn't intentional, idk. I was just explaining a popular theory.

@@oslafoirausuebutuoy5457 Your explanation is appreciated, as is taking my counterpoint in the spirit intended. It's troubling how often these kinds of rational disagreements can turn into rancorous personal feuds. Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt on that count! You raise interesting points, but I'm not sure the one about there being no audience in that Dent/Joker moment holds. Had Dent killed Joker in that moment, the info would almost certainly have been quickly discovered and disseminated, thus destroying Dent's reputation (as would have happened anyway if Bats didn't take the fall for the people Harvey did eventually murder). And that was Joker's goal, because Harvey was the last gasp for legitimate hope for the city and the system that supported it. Whether or not the mobsters Harvey arrested went free was incidental; once the rot of despair was established, it would spread fatally, either quickly or slowly. Joker didn't really care if he was there to see the final inevitable stages, as long as he knew they were now unavoidable. Dent was less a goal for the Joker than a weapon; he was the method by which Joker would destroy Gotham, and the myth (to him) of any social nature beyond the Hobbesian that condemns human existence to being "nasty, brutish, and short". Nolan really made quite a masterpiece here. It holds-up on a lot of levels.

He took pills for insomnia. I don't even think he was a drug addict

@stagger9660 he wasn't, he just needed something to sleep. And i think he was taking something to get him going. Like caffeine pills or whatever. Nothing serious

@@justinpeck6015 it really was tragic.

Why would you explain a Glasgow Smile to Scots?

@@Laochri There's probably lots of things people don't know about their own history.