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Crystal Palace Station is Needlessly Magnificent 

Jago Hazzard
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Crystal Palace and the station built for it. Well, one of them.
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@thomasm1964
@thomasm1964 11 месяцев назад
Jago - you're definitely a glass act! Who else would have gone to such panes to tell this story? Who else could have made the convoluted twists and turns as crystal clear as you have?
@oscarfeatherstone6688
@oscarfeatherstone6688 11 месяцев назад
Bravo.
@johntyjp
@johntyjp 11 месяцев назад
That's really Paneful!🧐
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 11 месяцев назад
@@johntyjp mere putty in my hands
@joshslater2426
@joshslater2426 11 месяцев назад
The puns hurt like a smashed bottle to the head, but Jago is very good at making clear and concise videos out of confusing subjects.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 11 месяцев назад
@@johntyjp you share my fenestration about this too
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 11 месяцев назад
I’m so happy that the curse of landing up at the wrong station has been lifted from you today 😂
@chrisoddy8744
@chrisoddy8744 11 месяцев назад
Luckily for him, the one he'd have got confused with was closed back in the 1950s 😂
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce 11 месяцев назад
It could have been a pointless journey from High Level to Low Level 🤪
@HesterClapp
@HesterClapp 11 месяцев назад
Could have been Alexandra Palace
@arnesom
@arnesom 11 месяцев назад
It could have been Hyde Park.
@stephenlee5929
@stephenlee5929 11 месяцев назад
@@chrisoddy8744 Might have ended up in Glasgow, in a Wetherspoons.😊
@brettpalfrey4665
@brettpalfrey4665 11 месяцев назад
"Victorian Disneyland!" Sums it up beautifully...My teacher in junior school saw the glow in the sky when it burned down in 1936..nearly as bad as the blittz in 1940! Another nice one , Jago, lets hear more of Crystal Palace...( thinks.."you're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!)
@mrbojangles8133
@mrbojangles8133 11 месяцев назад
Disney resorts not doing that well either currently, so that's interesting
@silasmarner7586
@silasmarner7586 11 месяцев назад
I just asked on my Facebook page the connection between Micheal Caine saying that and Crystal Palace. I'm American and OF COURSE only an English woman knew the answer.
@andrewemery4272
@andrewemery4272 11 месяцев назад
​@@silasmarner7586 Now then, not many people know that. (ask her to explain this one)
@quantisedspace7047
@quantisedspace7047 11 месяцев назад
​@@silasmarner7586I'd like to know the answer as well.
@anthonylloyd6094
@anthonylloyd6094 11 месяцев назад
Now listen Jago, nobody move, I've got an idea.
@christopherwright8388
@christopherwright8388 11 месяцев назад
At certain times, Crystal Palace station is an ethereal, almost magical place. For example: on a warm Sunday afternoon with a slight breeze, when the place is deserted and the only sounds are those of the pigeons occasionally fluttering about, and suddenly without warning a non-stopping train emerges from the nearby tunnel portal and hurtles through the station and is gone almost as soon as it arrived, and the whole scene settles back into its previous torpor as though in a dream.
@Zanomito
@Zanomito 9 месяцев назад
It's Sunday and it's warm. Might pop in.
@user-oq2hg4lh4y
@user-oq2hg4lh4y 6 месяцев назад
seems it was for a time our ethereal ancestors roamed the earth too
@frglee
@frglee 11 месяцев назад
There is also the somewhat remarkable and short-lived experimental Crystal Palace Pneumatic Railway built in 1864. There's a good Wiki article about this curious 'tube railway' that had a coach propelled by air pressure in a tunnel. Perhaps the most interesting thing about it is that it's probably still there but has been lost, in the sense that nobody seems too sure where the tunnel is.
@Redf322
@Redf322 11 месяцев назад
There was a second pneumatic railway that ran from New Cross to Croydon. Propelled by a torpedo shape in a tube fixed under the train. The train was un crashable.See the book The Phoenix Suburb. The subway next to Smiths in Forest Hill is the only remaining part. The old Forest hill station tower now demolished was the chimney for the engine room.
@themoviedealers
@themoviedealers 11 месяцев назад
I think those beat the Beach Pneumatic Railway in New York.
@lindaaird6232
@lindaaird6232 11 месяцев назад
I remember reading about this years ago - I've been fascinated by the story of this lost bit of railway ever since...
@themoose8
@themoose8 11 месяцев назад
A Victorian hyperloop?
@user-oq2hg4lh4y
@user-oq2hg4lh4y 6 месяцев назад
nothing is new , just recycled technology @@themoose8
@peabody1976
@peabody1976 11 месяцев назад
Sometimes, one needs a bit of grandeur in one's everyday life, and this station can give this feeling. It's as apparent as crystal.
@royalhero4608
@royalhero4608 11 месяцев назад
As a South Londoner who has been going to CP Park since I was kid, I can't tell you how much I would have loved to have seen The Crystal Palace in all its glory. I often think of it when I walk in the park and imagine what it was like. Now I just put up with supporting the football team!
@PsychicLord
@PsychicLord 11 месяцев назад
I used to live about a mile away, and can remember as a child hearing the 'buzzing' of racing cars on the motor racing circuit on some Sundays.
@camenbert5837
@camenbert5837 11 месяцев назад
Did I ever tell you I went to the francophone branch of the north london Crystal Palace supporters club? Yes the Allez Pallais, are quite the thing....
@davidkimmins8781
@davidkimmins8781 11 месяцев назад
There's a street near Grove Park station in SE12 called 'Palace View'. One of several viewpoints round here no doubt used on that fateful night. My father remembered seeing the glow in the sky from his home in Winchmore Hill N21.
@jmtubbs1639
@jmtubbs1639 11 месяцев назад
My Dad said he was able to see the fire from near Croydon where he lived. @@davidkimmins8781
@paulklee5790
@paulklee5790 11 месяцев назад
When I was a working guy I spent an awful lot of time at that station, especially late in the evening coming home… often I had the feeling of being on some Surrealist stage set, like something designed by Giorgio de Chirico or Paul Delvaux for a film by Alfred Hitchcock, to the extent that it’s platforms still crop up in dreams ten years later… spooky is as spooky does!
@GerardScroogeGoes
@GerardScroogeGoes 11 месяцев назад
Imagine a 17 year old Dutch boy traveling to London by train for the first time in his life and getting of the train at Christal Palace (there was a model shop across the road then in the late seventies). OK I was familiar with Antwerp Central (black with sooth in those days). But how grant could British Railway Architecture be if they build a station like this in the middle of nowhere. After my time at the modelshop I took quite some time walking around the station wondering about its odd set-up and marvalous construction. Thx for reminding me of that encounter.
@TheStuarti
@TheStuarti 11 месяцев назад
There are extensive vaults underneath the road from the High Level Station to the palace entrance that are currently being rebuilt or refurbished. It would be great to see these in your future high level station video plus any information you uncover about the pneumatic railway in the park itself. 😊
@AndyBanner
@AndyBanner 11 месяцев назад
Many of these victorian stations are a sight to behold. As a child, I used Peckham Rye and North Dulwich Stations a great deal. Both rather splendid buildings in their own right
@georgegard.aka.currymonste1498
@georgegard.aka.currymonste1498 11 месяцев назад
Peckham rye used to be my local station..the good old days
@railwaychristina3192
@railwaychristina3192 11 месяцев назад
Thornton Heath is a treat!
@oscarfeatherstone6688
@oscarfeatherstone6688 11 месяцев назад
Peckham Rye in it's current state is a travesty. There's plans to bring it back to it's former glory, which I'm all in favour of, but there will be a part of me that will miss the fruit and veg blade-runner feel of it's current setup.
@mattseaton3521
@mattseaton3521 11 месяцев назад
@@oscarfeatherstone6688 Great description, it does have that vibe.
@railwaychristina3192
@railwaychristina3192 11 месяцев назад
@Isabella-tf1qc ...err, very nice, love, but this is a train spotters' channel..
@brick6347
@brick6347 11 месяцев назад
The first ever recording of a concert was made by an employee of Edison inside the Crystal Palace in 1888. It was a performance of Israel in Egypt by Handel, and you can find it on RU-vid. Quite ghostly... More time has passed since that recording than between Handel's death and the concert.
@geoffreyhenson3098
@geoffreyhenson3098 11 месяцев назад
My Dad was working on the railways and said that the glow from the fire could be seen from Newhaven in Sussex. Of course, workers there formed a football club in 1905, playing at 'The Nest' which is where Selhurst Depot now stands. They called themselves Crystal Palace and were nicknamed The Glaziers until a certain Malcolm Allison decided to change that to The Eagles in the 1970's.
@kirk130013
@kirk130013 11 месяцев назад
Crystal Palace was an annual visit on the August bank holiday for the motor sport revival. The Crystal Palace track was a top flight venue for both car and bike racing up to the early 70s
@peterjohncooper
@peterjohncooper 11 месяцев назад
My Dad saw The Crystal Palace burning as he cycled across the Hog's Back South of Guildford and some 30 miles away. I could never really understand what there was to burn in a building made of glass and iron. Great video as always, Jago.
@chrisg6086
@chrisg6086 11 месяцев назад
I never understood that either! My mother watched it from her home in Sydenham
@tonys1636
@tonys1636 11 месяцев назад
Glass burns at a very high temperature once molten and all the flooring inside was oiled wood. Linseed oil which can self combust under the right conditions when soaked into other materials like the cloths used to apply it.
@peterjohncooper
@peterjohncooper 11 месяцев назад
@@tonys1636 Thank you. Another query from the deep past solved.
@royalhero4608
@royalhero4608 11 месяцев назад
My grandmother saw it burning too, certainly the "end of an era" as Churchill called it
@jackiespeel6343
@jackiespeel6343 11 месяцев назад
From various sources - the wooden flooring of the Palace was very old and very dried out , so (along with wooden furniture etc present) somewhat flammable once the fire started. 'Fun fact' - Edward VIII abdicated a few days later.
@gooseholla1
@gooseholla1 11 месяцев назад
It is a shame so many of our grand buildings have been lost to history. Sure some of the modern glass skyscrapers look nice but that thing must have been immense.
@Dave_Sisson
@Dave_Sisson 11 месяцев назад
I live a short walk from the last surviving Victorian era exhibition complex in the world. The Royal Exhibition Building in Melbourne is massive and it clearly takes architectural inspiration from the Crystal Palace. I got my Covid shots there, along with hundreds of thousands of other people.
@msg5507
@msg5507 11 месяцев назад
I sat a few university exams there back in the day...
@kathrynstemler6331
@kathrynstemler6331 11 месяцев назад
Modern glass skyscrapers were born from it. It changed the world.
@sirrliv
@sirrliv 11 месяцев назад
Truly, the Crystal Palace was the peak of Victorian beautiful engineering. It still stirs my heart to see images of it, and moves me near to tears to see its destruction. Winston Churchill was right when he commented on its destruction, "It is the end of an era." On fun little side note is that late in its life the Palace served as Britain's first television studio. Scottish inventor John Logie-Baird's electro-mechanical television was starting to catch on in the 1920's-30's, but filming for it required a lot of light. What better place then to stage early TV productions than a building made mostly of glass? Sadly, Logie-Baird was facing serious competition from Philo Farnsworth's all-electronic television, and while the two systems were level-pegged for awhile the 1936 fire destroyed all of Logie-Baird's broadcasting equipment and basically ended his TV dreams.
@craigthomson3621
@craigthomson3621 11 месяцев назад
I think it was Alexandra Palace, North London, rather than Crystal Palace, South London, that was the site of Britain’s first Television studio.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 11 месяцев назад
@@craigthomson3621 Bairds first studio strictly was in a mix of somewhere in Hastings, Savoy House (institute of Electrical Engineers) and Selfridges (plus the use of an Aircraft and other OB facilities. The BBC Television studios indeed were at Alexandra Palace. Baird did some broadcasts that were a form of closed circuit TV insofar as they were beamed to Cinemas (mostly sporting events - boxing/horseracing)
@sirrliv
@sirrliv 11 месяцев назад
@@highpath4776 Fair enough, it wasn't his "first" television studio. But in 1933 Logie Baird did indeed move his broadcasting to the Crystal Palace, South London. I will also admit to the error in saying that the '36 fire was the end of his career; after the fire broadcasts were indeed moved to Ally Pally.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 11 месяцев назад
@@sirrliv Baird continued at Crystal Palace after the fire using one of the towers (until WW2 when they were blown up supposedly so the luftwaffe couldnt use them for direction finding (as if St Pauls wasnt big enough to see) . I cannot recall where Baird research and production happened thereafter (it was in a couple of books ), The company carried on but John himself was "relegated" to technical consultant
@apolloc.vermouth5672
@apolloc.vermouth5672 11 месяцев назад
7:10 If it wasn't for the platform sign at the edge, that shot could have been composed by Canaletto...
@thestevenjaywaymusic7775
@thestevenjaywaymusic7775 11 месяцев назад
I grew up there and walked about the foundations many times. A tragic case. It should have been kept in good condition as a testament to Great Britain’s history, but greed and money got in the way. A fire? What a shame. I live in France now and have done so for quite some time. They appreciate their history and keep their old structures in tact. The Crystal palace and the high level station should have been preserved. In between the station and the palace was an underground vaulted walkway and I played a concert there in the late 1970’s with an orchestra from the All-saints church which was at the end of church road. This ran from the palace to South Norwood hill. I also filmed a pop video there in 1992. It had always been closed but was opened occasionally for special purposes. A part of my past. The Crystal Palace was an incredible building and should still be there.
@PlanetoftheDeaf
@PlanetoftheDeaf 11 месяцев назад
A bit unfair to blame the people of the 20s and 30s for not keeping it in better condition, as it was a gigantic structure with little purpose, and a time of economic depression. The UK is hardly short of old and historical structures, so I'm not sure the comparison with France is correct either.
@_Wombat
@_Wombat 11 месяцев назад
@@PlanetoftheDeaf Agreed, if anything us Brits are far more sentimental and careful with our historical effects than any other country in the world (would be happy to hear examples to the contrary). National Trust, English Heritage, Historic England, Listed Buildings etc etc.
@tamarab5751
@tamarab5751 10 месяцев назад
Well, they had to be carefully packed & shipped from whatever colony they were stolen from, so that's a good start. @@_Wombat
@royalhero4608
@royalhero4608 11 месяцев назад
It would be great if they could link this to the Croydon Tramlink one day
@tamarab5751
@tamarab5751 10 месяцев назад
@Isabella-tf1qc In the name of Allah I invite you to stop spamming about religion b/c it's none of your business what others do w/ their spiritual life. When someone wants to learn about Allah they'll look it up. Keep your myths to yourself, spammer.
@robertb7918
@robertb7918 11 месяцев назад
I remember in the seventies the walkway through the main building was in a dreadful state, pigeons occupying the roof with their droppings covering everything. Very few people used the station. It was a relief when the new little ticket office was built to see that the Crystal Palace design was made use of instead of there being the usual prefab box of a ticket office being installed and the old building was shut completely. It was wonderful to see the refurbished building and the new curved roof a few years ago, it shows that someone cares about the heritage of the place. Maybe one day you will do a video on the underground pneumatic railway that ran under a part of the park? There is a legend that the carriage is still buried underground and full of the skeletons of the last passengers. There was also a proposal to build an underground monorail from Crystal Palace to central London, yes really. If you look for Ken Russel's early film "Amelia and the Angel" it shows scenes of the disused former high level station. It has only recently been revealed that during World War II the closed park was the location of a top secret factory where the radar equipment for aircraft was made.
@peterdavy6110
@peterdavy6110 11 месяцев назад
I agree. It was even worse in the 60s!
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 11 месяцев назад
Have you got a source for that as my sources are adamant that Baird (who continued to occupy part of the site) was not and never was involved with Radar ( in part as Baird's company had German shareholdings and contacts / joint ventures.
@jeanjacques9980
@jeanjacques9980 11 месяцев назад
I’m afraid the National Sports Centre next door, is very much neglected from its glory days in the past, almost as bad as the station’s neglect of the 70s/80s. Khan refused refurbishment funding for the NSC site, not even a top class sporting venue for the station to serve these days.
@robertb7918
@robertb7918 11 месяцев назад
@@highpath4776 I replied to this but for some reason it got deleted. The reference of radar components is from the Wikipedia entry for Crystal Palace which is not always the most reliable of sources. There is more information on the local history website (I won't give a link as that might have been why my first answer was removed).
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 11 месяцев назад
@@robertb7918 There was a claim in a book with information supplied that Baird was working with radar (the informant being one of Baird's relatives, Malcolm). This information has been basically debunked , see research at University of Glasgow (which generally supported Malcolms assertions without quoting sources) and the rebuttle research which basically covered such govt contracts of research and materals and whom and where they were supplied from. Of course it being WW2ish and notwithstanding any release of classified material thusfar there are the unknown unknowns. I have friends who worked (and improved) marine Radar systems (Decca later Racal) but most given facilities were in New Malden ( a bit at Albert Embankment and near Battersea Park station - described as a warehouse ) but that was post war. Radar was essentially an assembly of components so things like valves/ crts could be ordered from Mullard (even with its overseas ultimate ownership) or Brimar without the supplier knowing what the ultimate purpose was.
@procrastinatingpuma
@procrastinatingpuma 11 месяцев назад
I’m glad you got to the right station this time. I was worried that if that thing kept happened, you would have accidentally ended up in London, Ontario
@richardcox84
@richardcox84 11 месяцев назад
You sometimes wonder if the 1936 Crystal Palace fire was the same sort of building spontaneous combustion that befell the Crooked House in the Black Country over the last weekend....
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 11 месяцев назад
Seems like it wasn’t just the house that was crooked HEYOOOOOO
@roberthuron9160
@roberthuron9160 11 месяцев назад
And in New York,we had the late great Pennsylvania Station,which was based on the Baths of Caracala! It too was an expanse of iron and glass,and during the early and mid 60's,I made many a trip,into and out of that immense station! On the outbound side,you could see the GG-1, pulling your train to Pennsylvania,from the top,quite a sight to an impressionable lad,otherwise magnificent! Oh,the memories! Thank you 😇 😊!! Oh,yes,forgot!! The Bronx Botanic Gardens,runs a Christmas train exposition every year,so its close as most people could get to the feel of the old Crystal Palace,in the current conditions! Again,thank you!! Thank you 😇 😊!!
@Eurobazz
@Eurobazz 11 месяцев назад
Nice midweek surprise Jago. Thanks! Steve Marsh did the same today. You're obviously on the same psychic wavelength as him.
@SmudgeThomas
@SmudgeThomas 11 месяцев назад
My grandfather saw the palace burn from north London. It lit up the sky in a way then never known...the blitz made that way less of a novelty...
@simonf8902
@simonf8902 11 месяцев назад
It’s crystal clear that Jago is a glass of high level content.
@MartinBrenner
@MartinBrenner 11 месяцев назад
Learning about the history of a station AND the Crystal Palace - perfect! I saw the palace mentioned now and then but never learned about what ultimately happened to it. Must have been a quite impressive sight in its time and probably still would be today.
@kevelliott
@kevelliott 11 месяцев назад
"Feels a little...big" - best YT closer of the day!
@colinlittlewood9613
@colinlittlewood9613 11 месяцев назад
Last time I visited Crystal Palace was 2016 and my phone died on the journey. Asked station staff if there was a pay phone at the station but she didn't understand the concept.
@southlondon63
@southlondon63 11 месяцев назад
I often get the train here from Brockley when taking my dogs out for a long walk around Crystal Palace Park, it is a very grand station that just oozes with Victorian architecture. We also go to Sydenham Hill Woods where you can walk along part of old upper level track until to get to Crescent Wood Tunnel which is blocked off due to safety reasons.
@horsenuts1831
@horsenuts1831 11 месяцев назад
Crystal Palace High Level station would have been the most magnificent station to visit. Remenants were visible until relatively recently, but most of now either covered over or hidden behind fences.
@thomasmorgan9490
@thomasmorgan9490 11 месяцев назад
I used to pass through or change trains at this station during the late 60s/early 70s. Still remember what it was like on a winter's evening. With plenty of gas lights (mantles et al) the atmosphere was like something out of a Hammer Horror.
@robbojax2025
@robbojax2025 11 месяцев назад
Had to make a few trips there earlier this year. A lovely station indeed
@russbetts1467
@russbetts1467 11 месяцев назад
My Maternal Grandfather left the Royal Navy in 1935 and moved to London, to work for the General Post Office, where he bought a house in Streatham Vale. My mother was born in 1926 and her elder sister in 1920, so as a treat for her 16th Birthday, Granddad took his daughters to see the Crystal Palace.... three days before it burnt down. Mum said it was an amazing building, despite being past its prime. Granddad even took some photographs of it, to show how magnificent it was. Years later, when we were all at Granddad's bungalow in Bognor Regis, he showed us his photograph album of his World Travels in the Royal Navy and and the pictures of the Crystal Palace. He commented upon their stroke of luck in visiting the Crystal Palace when they did. The following weekend would have been too late.
@DR.NIMROD
@DR.NIMROD 11 месяцев назад
i hope you never stop making your videos. i watch several train nerd channels and while they are very good, your style is just brilliant. i always get happy when i see a new vid from you. even when you do your ”other” videos they are well researched and presented👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@isashax
@isashax 11 месяцев назад
Absolutely agree with this!
@ausbrum
@ausbrum 11 месяцев назад
Some years back, I happened to be shown some of the Thomas Cook archives.Cook was an itinerant preacher who approached the railway companies to create excursions around the north for people to attend religious meetings. This moved on to arranging hotel and travel bookings, and he was active in the success of the Crystal Palace Exhibition. So it was that success which prompted the rail companies afterwards to set up the reconstructed Palace at Sydenham. Incidentally, a crystal palace was built in Sydney for the 1888 Centenary of Australia, near the--what was then--rail terminus.Cook was ,incidentally ,the creator of the Swiss hotel industry: he told the Swiss government that he could bring in voyagers, but that they would need superior accommodation
@fenlinescouser4105
@fenlinescouser4105 11 месяцев назад
I dream of being well connected and to have lost my raisin debt.
@YesTomCullen
@YesTomCullen 11 месяцев назад
My favourite station too, beautiful to use.
@MatthewRoche
@MatthewRoche 11 месяцев назад
I love this station! When I saw your dinosaur video I was hoping you'd do a video on the station too. Crystal Palace is such a gem.
@goodwood-rc4nx
@goodwood-rc4nx 11 месяцев назад
the palace burnt down on my grandmas 20th birthday and was only a few streets away from the site so could feel the heat from her road
@paultidd9332
@paultidd9332 11 месяцев назад
I was impressed and somewhat bemused by the complexity of Crystal Palace railway station when I visited to tick off visiting another London Pearson designed church nearby. You have answered all the questions here with to its splendour and railway complexity. I did also walk up to the park and site of the Crystal Palace. Yes please to more of the history and information about this place.
@neilbain8736
@neilbain8736 11 месяцев назад
If you want to find other bits of the palace, they're in The Fens on Holme Fen which used to be Wittlesea Mere and was drained in 1851 to be turned into farmland. It was apparently the next biggest lake in England to Windermere but only a few feet deep. Some pillars from the Crystal Palace were hammered into the exposed lake bed till their tops were at bed level. The idea was that the bed would settle and dry and shrink and expose the pillar and thus allow shrinkage to be measured. When I was living in Kings Lynn I cycled out to one. There's a wee information board beside it. About 1867, the land had shrunk to sea level. By 1971, the base of the post was exposed and needed propping up and a new post inserted beside it. The land has shrunk about another meter since and is now about 12 feet or so below sea level. This has always intrigued me, simply because wouldn't whatever the post was hammered into and so sitting upon be shrinking too, and how would that have been accommodated for in measurements.
@fenlinescouser4105
@fenlinescouser4105 11 месяцев назад
Thanks, didn't know of that one. Is it still accessible? I might pay a visit.
@neilbain8736
@neilbain8736 11 месяцев назад
@@fenlinescouser4105 It is accessible. I checked on the Atlas Obscura. It is on the Holme Fen National Nature Reserve by Heights Drove Road, Ramsey Heights PE26 2RS. (I remember cycling through Ramsey Abbey to get there. It was in the early 2000's when I was last there and the blurb is more accurate than my memory!)
@tonys1636
@tonys1636 11 месяцев назад
Liked the photo of the old map on the wall in an entrance to Victoria Station, not many know of it as now has cladding over it but at least has been preserved.
@malbecmikegrey996
@malbecmikegrey996 11 месяцев назад
Back in the 1980s, these wall-maps (one of LBSC London lines, one of the rest of the network) were almost completely obscured by rows of phone boxes.
@blaizecunningham6080
@blaizecunningham6080 4 месяца назад
Near the furthest end of the crystal palace, if situated at crystal palace station, there still remained, right up until the late 1990s the original burnt out shell of the old employees housing quarters. The floor had bright mosaics made from pottery, most of the base of the actual super structure and old and decrepit burnt furnishings were scattered about there. It seemed that every few years the site was cleaned and maintained(weeds pulled, cobbled paths cleared ect) but the physical remnants of the building was never moved or destroyed. When I was under 10, the site was surrounded by barbed wire fences ect, but in the 1990s the put up a massive grey fence, much like the one you showed, and that permanently obscured the site from view, and made it so you couldn't go in there in anymore. It was a fascinating place, old furniture, decorations and various materials littered to whole site and it was like walking into the olden days. The mosaics on the floor were of peacocks and lions ect plus musical instruments. I used to play there all the time, but as I said they just shut it away and I understand why, but they couldve made it into an exhibit of some kind because those ruins would be 100 years old by now. I haven't been up there in years, but it might still be there.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 11 месяцев назад
At one time we were Regal and our exhibitions were a Mecca to come to and had an Empire. Now all we have is an Odeon
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 11 месяцев назад
I see what you did there.
@Withtheghostoftomjoad
@Withtheghostoftomjoad 11 месяцев назад
It would be great to hear about the high level station. There are remains of some of that railway in Sydenham hill woods.
@NatWhilc1963
@NatWhilc1963 11 месяцев назад
I still have many fond memories of the area, the park and the station. Around 1980 there was a proposal for a railway heritage centre in the space where the Orchard Grove estate now sits. I always felt it was a shame that the plan failed to take off. The plans at the time were quite detailed.
@RadioJonophone
@RadioJonophone 11 месяцев назад
I'm glad you made that crystal clear.
@samheath886
@samheath886 11 месяцев назад
Been a Palace football club fan all my life, and I always go to Norwood Junction or Selhurst station for the games. Once though, I found myself going to Crystal Palace station for the first time, and I wondered why it was so beautiful. Thank you for making this video explaining just that!
@ianstransporthistorystuff8175
@ianstransporthistorystuff8175 11 месяцев назад
Good video and a interesting station with a great history, and I agree too it's one of the best looking stations in London.
@aj384
@aj384 4 месяца назад
I've lived in Crystal Palace since 2011 and I must say it's an interesting feeling to walk around the old palace grounds knowing what once stood there. Almost haunting, it's just people throwing frisbees to their dogs now. I'm happy the low level station remains as a remnant of what once was, but man I wish they kept the high level!
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 11 месяцев назад
1:37 That quite the timeframe. I think that’s commendable.
@jonasrosengren9093
@jonasrosengren9093 11 месяцев назад
Another brilliant short story. Nice shots too. Btw, Electrostars are beauties...
@uk-martin4905
@uk-martin4905 11 месяцев назад
What a remarkable transformation the Low Level station is from the crumbling edifice with which I was familiar in the 1970s. At that time I lived opposite the site of the former High Level station. Of course, money for station refurbishment is unlimited in London and the southeast (he added bitterly). Not so here in the northwest where a vandalised 1970s-style bus shelter is apparently sufficient for our needs.
@Sophiebryson510
@Sophiebryson510 11 месяцев назад
So was the Crystal Palace though.
@peterdavy6110
@peterdavy6110 11 месяцев назад
There was also a Crystal Palace High Level Station which closed in 1954. As late as the 1990s my parents and grandparents still talked of catching a train from "the Low Level station", never Crystal Palace Station.
@thecockerel86
@thecockerel86 11 месяцев назад
Good architecture can lift the human spirit. I'm always filled a little bit of the old wonder whenever I take a train from this station.
@joshslater2426
@joshslater2426 11 месяцев назад
It makes me sad that the Crystal Palace burned down and they no longer hold the great exhibition anymore. The building looked amazing and elegant, and the engineering feats on display were equally impressive.
@tamarab5751
@tamarab5751 10 месяцев назад
@Isabella-tf1qc religious spam is still spam. Reported.
@ROCKINGMAN
@ROCKINGMAN 11 месяцев назад
Travelling back from Charing Cross to Blackheath last week, I heard a family mention you as we went through Waterloo East and admiring the design of the station.
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 11 месяцев назад
Nice!
@officialmcdeath
@officialmcdeath 11 месяцев назад
Lovely presentation, thank you! Looking forward to your HL coverage, not least because of many afternoons spent exploring the pathway along the abandoned branch from Nunhead \m/
@railwaychristina3192
@railwaychristina3192 11 месяцев назад
Paxton designed the gorgeous semi circle windows at Buxton station!
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 11 месяцев назад
I love those!
@railwaychristina3192
@railwaychristina3192 11 месяцев назад
@JagoHazzard I travelled from the South Coast to Buxton just to look at them, then walked the Monsal Trail to Bakewell...if you haven't done this yet, it's beyond fab..
@peterdavy6110
@peterdavy6110 11 месяцев назад
As a child I thought this the most sinister building I knew. The stairs down from the booking hall to the platforms used to scare me rigid. That was during the day. Coming home at night it was awful! No idea why. Just did.
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby 11 месяцев назад
There's something about the Victorian Gothic style that is common in this part of South London that is very imposing, certainly.
@peterdavy6110
@peterdavy6110 11 месяцев назад
@@stevieinselby Imposing's the word. It seemed so vast to a small boy.
@royalhero4608
@royalhero4608 11 месяцев назад
My grandmother lived in an old Victorian terraced house in Lewisham, I was absolutely terrified of the place as a small boy. Dark and imposing for sure. These days I absolutely love the Victorian style however
@davidpeters6536
@davidpeters6536 11 месяцев назад
Spooky!
@toowindytoskydive
@toowindytoskydive 11 месяцев назад
Jago go to Oxford where IIRC there is an old station which used some of the same brackets which was used in the Crystal Palace. You get a twofer....A visit to an old station and footage of parts of Crystal Palace.
@christopherdean1326
@christopherdean1326 11 месяцев назад
In the bottom right hand corner at 7:40, you can see one of the ticket machines it was once my job to service and repair. I have had that thing in pieces more often than I care to remember!
@dougmorris2134
@dougmorris2134 11 месяцев назад
Hello Jago, I have just had the pleasure of seeing your “ Crystal Palace video. Than you do much for this. I travelled the Birkbeck - West Norwood section of this line and discovered delights of CP and frequently travelled on, what I know as the 08 train that stopped at CP LL to investigate then delights of this station before my usually “36”(headcode) train arrived to continue my journey to Birkbeck. At that time (1967-1970) I became interested in the Crystal Palace and it’s railways. I remember my mother talking about the red glow in the sky, the burning down of the Crystal Palace seen from Tonbridge in Kent as “that was a significant/some fire” The high level station had long gone so I could only see the Low level station that still existed. A lot had changed but there were still remanants of the past, now all erased forever, only memories. Jago, please do a video on the High Level. The last train running a special in 1954. There are many lost lines. Best wishes from Oxfordshire, Doug.
@norbitonflyer5625
@norbitonflyer5625 11 месяцев назад
The WEL&CPR was a joint venture by the LBSCR and the London Chatham & Dover Railway to give both access to the west End using a new station at Victoria - diverging at Crystal Palace towards Norwood Junction on the former's line from London Bridge and to Beckenham Junction to meet up with the LCDR's line. The two companies rapidly fell out and each built their own more direct line, via Norbury and via West Dulwich respectively. The two halves of Victoria still have distinctly different architecture, and indeed a wall was built separating the two halves - not removed until both companies became part of the new Southern Railway in 1923. The distinction between the LCDR and the more upmarket LBSCR was referenced by Oscar Wilde when his character Ernest Worthing is at pains to emphasise that the left luggage office in which he was found as a baby was that of "The Brighton Line", only to be rebuffed by Lady Bracknell's retort that "The line is immaterial"
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 11 месяцев назад
You might want to visit one of the flower / produce displays at the Paxton Horticultural Society, Headingly Leeds (combine with visit to Middledon Railway and Armley Mills (and the Armoury museum if you are in to that
@ThomasTrue
@ThomasTrue 11 месяцев назад
Next time you're in Edinburgh, Jago, pay the National Museum of Scotland a visit. The three storey Great Hall of the old Royal Scottish Museum building is actually copied from Paxton's design for the Crystal Palace.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 11 месяцев назад
The "Morden" of the LSBC Terrier(?) would of course be Morden Road Halt ( which was named Morden ) for a while. Now a tramlink stop
@ianhelps3749
@ianhelps3749 11 месяцев назад
A few years ago Thameslink trains from the Gatwick line were running from East Croydon through Norwood Junction where they were routed via Crystal Palace. The trains reached Blackfriars via Gypsy Hill, Tulse Hill and Herne Hill. It's quite a maze of lines, and the trains were usually held up by other suburban services. It's a lot quicker now that trains run via London Bridge.
@donahuetroy
@donahuetroy 11 месяцев назад
Crystal Palace is indeed a beautiful station, many thanks again for a top video.
@raedwulf61
@raedwulf61 11 месяцев назад
I will have to visit there my next time in the UK.
@DanBen07
@DanBen07 11 месяцев назад
I like the use of maps in this video!
@teecefamilykent
@teecefamilykent 11 месяцев назад
It's always awesome seeing a Jago Hazzard vid!!!
@ekaprasetio9564
@ekaprasetio9564 11 месяцев назад
I agree. This station is pretty and big.
@PaddyWV
@PaddyWV 11 месяцев назад
My Grandmother remembered watching the glow from the Crystal Palace fire from Croydon.
@bordershader
@bordershader 11 месяцев назад
My grandmother lived in Highgate and could see the Palace burning down. It must have been so sad.
@pvuccino
@pvuccino 11 месяцев назад
The West End of London and Crystal Palace Railway was the way the LBSCR reached Victoria Station and today forms a part of the Brighton Main Line.
@warrenbooth2103
@warrenbooth2103 11 месяцев назад
They built magnificent railway stations because they could.
@NickyMitchell85
@NickyMitchell85 11 месяцев назад
I hope 🤞 that one ☝️ day, there’s a new palace one ☝️ day. What a crystalline video, Sir. J. Hazzard.
@briseyk1
@briseyk1 11 месяцев назад
I like the fact that Platform 1 and 2 look like something from The Railway Children
@jackiespeel6343
@jackiespeel6343 11 месяцев назад
Will mention that there are tours of the CP High Level station as it now is.
@ajs41
@ajs41 11 месяцев назад
I think this is a London station I've never visited properly, apart from passing through it occasionally. Definitely need to actually get out at it next time I'm in the capital.
@juanlawson4156
@juanlawson4156 11 месяцев назад
Hi Jago, long time subscriber, but first time commenter here. I felt I needed to thank you for covering Crystal Palace station. As a young lad, I always considered the station a mini London Bridge esk station, with both terminating platforms and through platforms. I always loved visiting the station thinking it very grand (we normally used boring old Penge West!
@Wasserfeld.
@Wasserfeld. 11 месяцев назад
I live in Sydenham, I'm in the park all the time. It's a great place to just relax. One part of me would love for it to be rebuilt, maybe as a market and botantical garden. But the other part of me loves how quiet it is. You can see Biggin Hill Airport and the Dartford Crossing from the highest points of the park too. The hordings are down to events happening - quite a lot this summer. They'll be gone by September.
@davidfulton179
@davidfulton179 10 месяцев назад
A far too belated note of thanks for these small gems of specific history. London holds a special place in my memory and the Underground (and Overground, for that matter) was always more than just a means of conveyance to me. It still seems like such an aspirational achievement, even in the 21st century.
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 10 месяцев назад
Many thanks!
@AFCManUk
@AFCManUk 11 месяцев назад
We went from the amazing structure of the Crystal Palace....to a giant plastic body in a huge circus tent. That's progress!!
@k8zhd
@k8zhd 11 месяцев назад
I remember reading about the Crystal Palace and seeing photos of it when I was a youngster, and was devastated to learn that it had burned down a dozen years before I was born -- how could a building of iron and glass burn down? Crystal Palace has remained a subject of interest for me, so this was fun to see. The practicalities of such a building/attraction are almost as much fun as the architecture. Transportation (so many stations), maintenance (who washed all those windows?), heating (how much coal did it take to make it livable in winter) -- obsessive history buffs want to know!
@roadhog6
@roadhog6 11 месяцев назад
And thanks a lot Jago !! 👍
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 11 месяцев назад
I am most grateful to you also!
@jamesgilbart2672
@jamesgilbart2672 11 месяцев назад
Interesting! It's good that cathedral of a station survives and is well looked after - unlike the gargantuan palace itself or the former High Level station.
@DarrenKC53
@DarrenKC53 11 месяцев назад
The 1980s booking hall went to the East Anglian Railway Museum in Essex. It featured in a planning application as part of a new exhibition hall which didn’t quite get through planning. Thing the parts are still there in storage
@MrGreatplum
@MrGreatplum 10 месяцев назад
Ah, Crystal Palace - I always thought it must have been boiling hot there in the summer! It does look a very lovely and cared for station :)
@swymaj02
@swymaj02 11 месяцев назад
Gotta say I'm glad you spoke about it. I live in Sydenham, so live very near.
@RailwayDan
@RailwayDan 11 месяцев назад
Excellent video Mr H. My favourite London station by far. Based my model railway on the high level station (so i'll be looking forward to your video on that !). Thank you.
@lawrencelewis2592
@lawrencelewis2592 11 месяцев назад
I recall seeing a newsreel of the Palace burning down, I remember the arched roof collapsing in the film. I saw it in about 1962. "Time to Remember" I think the program was called.
@davidkimmins8781
@davidkimmins8781 11 месяцев назад
'All our Yesterdays' on ITV perhaps? They used to feature events which had taken place 25 years before each week. So the 1962-ish date would fit.
@lawrencelewis2592
@lawrencelewis2592 11 месяцев назад
@@davidkimmins8781 No, this was in the States. On another show there was a short movie of the Titanic leaving port.
@CarolineFord1
@CarolineFord1 11 месяцев назад
I didn't realise that the crystal palace-style booking hall had been demolished. I clearly haven't been there since the Overground came! The high level subway is being restored but not idea if there is anything visible. I wonder what they are doing to the sphinxes? Are there still decapitated statues? There is a bust of Paxton somewhere near the sports centre.
@dylanlarge11
@dylanlarge11 11 месяцев назад
I agree, when I visited it was lovely!
@bryansmith1920
@bryansmith1920 11 месяцев назад
I used to go to Crystal Palace Sports Center for Sports on a school day, I learnt Squash and Trampoline, although I mainly stood watching the crush of my school days Ms............ Sports teacher.
@maydini5259
@maydini5259 11 месяцев назад
5:50 that shot is really nice.
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