CS vs ME: The Reason Why I Switched Majors 

Yeah, so if you love art, you should go into art and have trouble paying rent for the rest of your life and not be able to build wealth? You get a degree in something that makes you money, after that you do what you want and can build a business in whatever you might like, but to intentionally pursue a financially depressed career from the start is just immature and fiscally irresponsible and the tax payer shouldn't have to pay for those who go that route.

@Yehia Mahmoud Yeah, ok so if you don't believe me go to your local bank and try to take out a $350k loan to start your "art" business and watch how fast the bank shuts you down. But if you're a Board cert. dermatologist (MD or DO), and want a $1.4m loan for a dermatology clinic after conducting proper business viability research, at least you have the banks ear. This is just common damn sense; art majors working their craft generally cannot pay for a mortgage/business expenses based on their art business alone. Let's not get stupid.

@Yehia Mahmoud My point is fact. Assuming all is equal aside from the major of study - It's a fact that engineers as demographic are more financially sound than artists as a demographic or per capita. It is a fact that engineers, etc., are able to choose from a larger pool of jobs that pay considerably higher than the median income and artists do not have the same latitude. It is fact that a mid-career engineer have a better chance of a being approved for a home loan over $500k USD compared to a mid-career artist. Everyone that knows anything about math, finance, banking and education nows those are basic facts which have nothing to do with my opinion. Building a business styling, shampooing and cutting women's hair or selling art is generally not the same financial league as building a medical practice or electrical engineering firm. We all know that.

This is true, but also your major != your job. I have seen people who have graduated with mechanical or chemical engineering degrees and became software developers, patent lawyers, doctors, basically anything under the sun

@@rightwerk Patent Lawyer (a specialty beyond typical law school stuff; con law, torts, contracts, crim law, etc..) requires one to have a degree in specific STEM fields for obvious reasons - most engineers can't pass the Patent Law exam, not even close actually. You can major in ANYTHING and go to med school as long as the pre-reqs are met, same with law school. The thing about engineering is that it's more versatile than most other majors of study.

damn that job sounds cool

I am interested in cs i got a few questions if you would like to answer it would be perfect , how is your day to day at work like a routine? And what is your company?

@Ledger Zavier stfu bot

@@pedrosotojuarez7481 bro

Are you getting enough sleep? 😂 jk keep it up 💪

That's awesome! Keep up the good work!

Are you learning python and ML on the side? Or is it part of your program

@@rickjames7730 actually python is part of my program and ml is not

@@imranbasha6932 oh okay cool. What exactly is your program called if you dont mind my asking

That's super cool! I also want to go into the space industry:)

I’m majoring in CS and minoring in ME. Basically the opposite of you haha.

I identify with the things your saying so much (high school junior here). However I feel like people in the field of computer science have a ton of pressure to learn new languages and new methods continually throughout their career. Many jobs never really get repetitive because there’s a pressure to take on more and more demanding work as your skills improve. I wonder if this is the same for mechanical engineering. The idea of design, using math and physics is so exciting to me, but I don’t want to be stuck in a highly specialized job doing the same thing over and over for the rest of my life.

If i decide to do major in ME and minor in CS, is it gonna be too costly?

@@asirawsaf306 no minors can typically fit relatively easily within a normal 4-year plan of study, so it shouldn't add any time to your major at all

Well once you combine both robotics starts to look like a good field to get into

This would be an excellent combination....With few foreign language would be addon advantage.

Did you end up pursuing this? I am on the same boat. I wish I took some more CS classes while in the ME program.

@@Speenard yeah I took Mechanical Engineering

@@Speenard there are courses out there where you can learn to program. You don't have to get a CS degree. Just prove them with the projects that you have made.

I have never seen this anywhere

@@nsambataufeeq1748 Cuz everyone’s a sellout lol (I don’t blame them tho)

@@gonzalezm244 Mechanical Engineering has been frustrating atleast for the past 30 years. On the other hand computer science continues to have lots of progress which explains why it's drawing talent from engineering

I'm doing that actually!! :) I'll make a video about that!

Aiming to move from CS to mechatronics engineering. Maybe I'll be the first to have done that 😅

how you doing now mate

CS is a new field so

Me too, but I'm in school yet

Bro i am about to do it. Can you provide some answers

@@saifpk7213 I'm going to assume that you are deciding which major to take of the both. I'll give an analogy. The way how I handle it is that I look at both majors in a different way, each representing a fire blazing. I really did have an interest in CivilE and CS. What help made me make the choice to go to CS is because that fire was the most hottest and had the biggest flames! Why? In the end, I find myself going really far within that field. The lifestyle changes that CS has to offer is very appealing, and is what I was looking for. One can work remotely which is a big plus! The adaptability, one can create software for different types of industries, that way one is not stuck in a particular industry. You can write software for tech, finance, medical....and so on. The creativity, there are so many creative software that are changing the meta of how things are done, and creating more opportunities for people. Example: Uber and Airbnb. Users who uses those apps are able to profit from it. That's insane! The distribution and scalability, I still find it mind blowing when one publish an application, millions of people from around the world can access/use it! That is powerful!! Again, Instantaneous feedback, physically updating a software is pretty quick, no need to wait for days, months, or years. The CS field is still new, there are still much to learn about the capabilities of software. For example, cryptocurrency. In a personal note, I do plan on starting a business using software, so these feature are going to help me do that. Entrepreneurship is very rewarding in CS. I mean look at the biggest profiting companies in the world. Most of them are BIG TECH. How? They took advantage on these beautiful features of software that I mentioned here. Another note, there are other companies that are NOT tech companies, but are up there as well. Although, I'll bet you those non-tech companies have many softwares aiding there logistics to get them where they are now. For these reasons, that is why I choose CS than CivilE. The lifestyle and principles won me over to CS. Ill leave a question to you now. Where do you see yourself going far in?

@@guzgamer You can apply all of the same arguments for CivE. As a civil engineer, you can work on housing for private citizens, public constructions, roads, bridges, dams, prisons, airports, shopping centers, corporate headquarters, drainage systems, etc. People will never stop needing constructions to live and work in. On the other hand, who's to say most of the tools being taught to you at your local university's CS department will be useful in 5 years? Programming languages die. Programming paradigms shift every few decades. Applications of computer science wax as others wane. Design trends change every few years, so what exactly remains the same?

That is a great combo, ru going into embedded systems?

@@TheFootballPlaya I’m studying embedded systems right now!!

@@manny3332 That's awesome! I was thinking about possibly doing the same thing. How was the transition from cs to EE? Seems pretty steep, lots of pre-req math & circuit classes. Did you take those during undergrad?

@@TheFootballPlaya yeah. But EE usually learns programming.

@@TheFootballPlaya changing from ME to CS is more steep

Yeah CS jobs are so high paying

Yeah exactly right

Unless you're from a third world country like Brazil or Bangladesh, in which case you'll get paid 1 lentil per month regardless of what you majored in.

bls has software developer n computer scientist as two separate things

You’re late. That was over 5 yeasts ago. Unlike a MBA, relatively few can handle the requisite math requirements to earn the CS degree. An MBA isn't hard to get. The STEM fields require maths that many people can't handle.

@@likeawhispr At least at my school, the only math required is calc 1, statistics, linear algebra, and discrete mathematics 1-2. You can completely avoid calc 2-3, differential equations, and other hard math classes.

@@parkerbutterfield5967 Like business schools, STEM majors aren't all created equal across colleges. You have hard colleges and easy ones and their job placement / attainment right after graduation usually reflects such.

@@likeawhispr Microsoft, Facebook, and Google usually take lots of the students from my program every year. Mine might be more mid level than upper level, but I dont see much of a difference for software engineering jobs.

@@parkerbutterfield5967 Most Americans do not even ever come close to taking calc 1 or discrete math, let alone the core courses required for a respective STEM major with competitive grades and standardized test scores to get into a decent school.

Yeah, it sounded like his "specificity" was pretty biased. There's way more mechanical stuff that still needs to be invented than apps.

@@clevelandsavage what’s needed and what pays better / better quality of life, are two different things.

@@clevelandsavage There's probably still money to be made in old-school "inventing", i.e. developing hardware products, but it's a much higher barrier of entry and much lower profit margins than software.

I’m planning on majoring in computer engineering once I start college

@@elliotkurz7759 Awesome man. Good luck 👍

Maybe computer engineering is smth you should look into if you're interested in computer building?😅

Also ty for this comment. It was helpful!

Dang man standard of living truly is lower. Are Indian engineers better than US ones. Don’t fret India will do better than US in future.

that aint true my bro because many cs graduates dont know how to code they just graduated out of sheer luck because their friends helped them. CS and IT will still keep on going in demand in the future since its stressful in their field many of them quit

It's very hard to get a job with a Chem E degree especially if you don't have a master's. Also, the job saturation of Chem E is really bad, so few jobs and so many people looking for Chem E jobs. CS has sooo many jobs, superrr high pay, and teaches great skills. Although, Chem E is really cool, and if you really love it get a Ph.D. or masters in it if you can't find a job.

@@andyloescher2401 agreed. i'm lucky enough to have a job but I'm definitely considering improving my coding abilities as a safety net

It may depend on the college but at mine CS was WAY easier than ME

Same here. I too just shifted from ME to CS.

@@falcoacinonyx1920 During your first year ?

@@mo7.998 yup first sem too

Right now I’m in my first semester of ME and I already know that’s not my field, thinking about switching to CS...

@@ThiagoCT9 same it's only my first semester as well

Have you thought about robotics? It’s basically just programming with physical objects. Honestly you would probably need both ME and CS skills to get into it.

@@parkerbutterfield5967 do you think that there are a large number of jobs for people with BSME and programming experience in languages like Python, C++ and as well as ROS and Linux?

@@genericuser-1 definitely a large number of jobs for a high level language like Python. And since Python is easy to pick up, getting any kind of job that uses Python should be an easy transition for a ME student

@@parkerbutterfield5967 In the robotics industry? Sorry I forgot to add that.

@@genericuser-1 Yeah I figured you meant robotics. Same answer.

No, he went the CS route because it’s more viable. You don’t have to get a job with CS, you can work for yourself. The chances and opportunity to create your own wealth via CS is far greater than doing the same with only a ME or EE.

I agree with what your saying as a cs major. I think that going into development, will be somewhat repetitive. Beyond the guise of learning new languages or technologies to build applications or variations in the features being implemented, the general flow of the logic, architecture, and end goal will be the same. Using tools to construct tools to build more tools. Engineering requires more analytical thinking i'd imagine than cs does. While there's this hot-topic of machine learning & data science, closely associated with cs in media, it's not necessarily cs. Sure, programming is used to implement the algorithms, but underneath it all, it's statistics & math that is applied to solve some kind of real-world problem. I think that skill set aligns closer with what engineering provides, rather than a cs degree, which is more concerned with discrete patterns or nth case circumstances. If i could go back, for now it's not financially wise to do so and i'm in too deep, and I might go back in the future, I would probably choose physics, chemistry, or some kind of engineering and minor in cs. I think that's a power combo.

@@TheFootballPlaya I agree. In engineering and CS you will probably do the entry level job for several years, which will for sure be pretty broad and a good experience, then either specialise in a particular field for a while and/or go into an area of increased responsibility later on (management, project management, etc.).

I'd say Computer Engineering is significantly better than mechanical engineering. I was able to be interviewed and get internship offers easier than the mech E. counterpart. This is since computer engineering encompasses computer science and electrical engineering. Also to note I was offered internships in software, electronics, and power engineering, there is just so much opportunity in computer engineering, and is definitely the future of engineering if you ask me. HOWEVER mechanical engineering is not BAD, my buddy got two offers with almost 0 experience. Just my $ 0.02

I felt like it was telling that when I went to a national career fair for students, the big companies had like 100 internships and/or full time jobs to hire for in electrical or software roles C.Es and E.Es could do, but were struggling to fill up the line and had recruiters walking around the area, asking for people interested. Meanwhile, the line for mech E or manufacturing roles wrapped around the area multiple times, and there was only maybe 40 roles. That said, its all about the work you put into it. I had done extracurricular competitions, undergraduate research, and had a leadership position in my clubs. I had no issues getting multiple offers within mechanical engineering. Its not just me but same with the others like me. However, its much harder to get your foot in the door with just the classes and class projects when you study Computer Engineering Ive also watched several of the bachelor level graduates from my clubs be laid off a year or two in, and then switch to CS or CE for a masters. Seems like a regular thing for some companies to just lay off a whole mech E or manufacturing department. Job security is hands down better for CE, but learn software. If your idea is that ypu want to work on hardware, much of the real hands on work done on hardware is done by mechanical, mechatronics, or materials engineers. Computer engineers mainly write and test firmware, the code on the hardware

CS grads can work as design engineers too. Just learn self learn CAD.

You're still going to make design errors and flaws which cannot be easily corrected or resolved unless you create the part and test it unlike a program

Cse

@@MrHimanshuqwerty in knowledge based .... mechanical engineering is better than computer engineering...

CSE bro all the way

What about u r current branch??

Nah, the job growth for CS fields far outweighs the latter for EE.

I'm not sure, but I do know that software engineers get paid in stockings.

I'm too in 4th year and learning programming...if I start liking it I'll do it as a full-time job

@@eazypeazy8602 tanks for comment, I hope get a good job how web development, but I don't know if possible because I will a mechanical engineer

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At my college Mechanical Engineering was way more complicated in terms of the difficulty of the classes. I was working much harder when I was in ME and when I switched to CS I was getting better grades while working less but Software engineering is a little harder than CS but they are very similar. But really it depends on the college some colleges have really hard software degrees while others are easier

I'm finishing up my 3rd year of Mechanical Engineering which means at least at my university I've basically seen the entire curriculum except for 2 classes. I say this because Senior year is mainly a massive design project. I don't mean this negatively to john at all I'm just using it to answer your question. The difficulty increases significantly from sophomore to junior year and if he is saying it was harder than CS during his sophomore year when he made the switch then you can definitely make the conclusion ME is harder.