CSB Safety Video: Fire From Ice 

Literally all of chemical engineering is making sure that something that wants to blow up, doesn't blow up.

And rocket engineering is taking care things don't blow up too fast.

@@samiraperi467 And in the correct place, usualy the combustion chamber and nozzle. Fluorine based oxydizers are well known to not always do that and making just about anything combust, even asbestos, sand and water. Then there are also fuel leaks, wich in case of hydrogen need no further explanation and in case of hydrazine derivates are highly toxic.

@@awesomesir45 And literally all of explosives engineering is making things that really want to blow up, blow up -- but only on command.

I am curious WHY all of those pipes aren't under ground?!

@Cobra85291 fuck off troll.

@Jack Anderson it means to run, book is the sound shoes make on the ground, apparently

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Rare for these videos

I would've been like, "Who wants overtime?"

it scratches that itch that "mayday" and seconds from disaster" used to scratch ... and with barely any loss in animation quality :P

Dude.... Me too. Who would have thought that videos that ppl are forced to watch would be interesting

@@firefox5926 You got it,,!!

I don't know I find this stuff very interesting for some reason

Same

Lol I walked into a bathroom at AutoZone earlier to fill a jug with water for radiator. My mind started narrating, “But, unknown to the customer, the mop sink had a fatal flaw which had not been detected...”

@@Bankable2790 after 30 seconds at 11:34 AM, it violently exploded, killing 3000 contractors on site.

Literally

That's the sort of arrogance that results in these type of accidents

The best channel in RU-vid!

They're good, but don't get crazy

I watch all the airplane crash investigations now I'm stuck on these

B. H. I feel attacked

The narrator is absolutely first rate.

You get in 10-15 minutes all the good stuff instead of dragging it out for 45.

Maybe Oxygen Bleach (hydrogen peroxide and oxygen) because regular bleach is Hypochlorite.

@@adamdnewman Hypochlorite is way safer than chlorine gas. Just being around chlorine gas is dangerous to health and reacts with everything including moisture in the air, whereas hypochlite salts are pretty stable in dry form.

I came here to point this out also :-)

@@jermainerace4156 it's also a trade off of a a thousand pounds of chlorine gas or tens of thousands of gallons of 10% sodium hypochlorite to do the same job.

Yea, you know it is really bad when "bleach" is safer than that. rofl

They are very good investigators, and they make good recommendations However they have farcically little power to enforce those recommendations And our lobbyist-controlled regulatory system hamstrings them even more

depends on if any life's are lost then it becomes the blame game.... when no one dies its blame bad policy or lack of rules and regulations or knowledge. you do not want to be the one CSB is investigating trust me. no lawyer will or can protect you.

@Master80059 until CEOs start seeing prison time, little will change.

There was actually freeze protection installed at the time. But it wasn’t being PMd

Unfortunately the CSB can only recommend, they can't enforce!

im an oil man...

@@Swoost Maybe instead of using Swoost you could use "Slick"! lol /s

🤣🤣

Nah, there is about as many “They did a review and ignored the results.”

GTFO Data and get back to the Enterprise...

The pres is trying to cut finding for these guys. Call your Congress person and hope he's not bought.

But obviously too few foremen and corporate bosses are watching them.

That's what's called "normal accidents" -- there's no one big error, just a whole sack of small factors that happen to line up one sunny day.

They super lucked out in this one!!!

Obviously, they did not have the right propane accessories.

If Buck was running the show, there wouldn't even be a fire. And if there was, it was Hanks fault. Buck was occupied by a female client

Somebody in Texas does it, that's who.

or when you watch CSB videos alongside Accident Case Crisis aircraft incident videos, also narrated by the same guy

@@Defender78 Tell me more about that, where can I watch it?

@@DedmenMiller www.youtube.com/@AirSafetyInstitute

Bit of a downer huh? You would be surprised.

it's like the old youtube in the early 2010's when it was information sharing instead of repeated jokes for the purposes of getting upvotes.

​@@03056932 Too much Reddit

Including my "baby arms" (poop)

Like those squids in Oklahoma

Px105 D yep

Holy shit a 12 year old comment

the piece got fined for traveling without a valid ticket.. Now it's stuck in lawsuits.. Then the lawsuits wanted more money So, he offered his only monet he had... hanging in the living Now his world is pale.. and without Art.. Art left the building after hearing this sad song. He lied him self down.. like a bridge over troubled water.. if you're leaving, close the door i am not expecting people anymore..

Lol

Exactly what I was thinking! But watch the other USCSB videos if you haven't, there's some other crazy sequences of events...

ikr? I was wondering how many other reactions there were in that chain. Like, what next? One of the tanks launches up and strikes an airplane? Then the airplane strikes the control room? Then more malfunctions as a result of that?

Sky Dog I’m still a process operator use to work on a methanol plant now I work on a gas processing plant these videos help me a lot

@@ajamocampbell9143 maybe you will bring one of these videos yourself

Somebody saved money...

David Hoekje no it's being cheap. I can't believe the lack of safe practices I see in these videos. It appears they just build and run it as cheap as possible, and get lots of insurance. These company owners need to go to prison when this crap happens.

With a name like yours, you must be smart.

@ETM Nation - Best ETM Music Nope, I disagree. Safety is expensive. Maintence is expensive. The Big boys in the boardrooms are the ones who shave those profit margins. Middle Managers are caught where they manage- in the middle, sweating it out at the Refinery, praying something does not go boom. Good, pro-active managers cost extra, and they are a pain in the ass to deal with, constantly harping on the real needs of the plant, too. So, when that Big Boss is looking to impress his "Bigger boss" with a .02% profit margin over last year and collect that 50 grand Christmas bonus, you can bet he redlined the Hell out of the maintenance budget and laid off a few safety people to get it. No skin off his back from 3rd-degree burns. Notice that abandoned piping stayed in the grid for 15 Years! Wanna bet the ass hole who made the decision not to remove it did it in order to save a little off the maintenance budget, has retired or moved onto a big promotion since then? Yeah- His butt was highly polished - just look how "Efficient he was!"

David Hoekje yew shutdup.i emm plant manerger Ann Yew NO nothin!

Yes gate valves suck ha. Looks like a welder had done some back feeding and dropped his filler metal and it ended up in the valve seat.

Yess ive looked up info up whiting as its 35 mins away from me and was curious. The safety record is not hot.

Guessing you from Illinois or indiana too lol

whenever I hear some kind of damage from ice, my first thought is that someone forgot to add a freeze plug somewhere, or some kind of anti icing agent.

@@kirknay Yes, but at the same temperature it freezes, propane melts. trust me, propane ice is hella cold.

MermanFromRus but if they opened the elbow to put a blind in. Wouldn’t it have leaked.

@@Mk5mod0 you would isolate and shut down to install the blind. This is normal in our industry.

@@Mk5mod0 imagine a leaking pipe in your house. There are valves throughout the line in such a way that you can get a section if pipe turned off so you can work on it

Double block and bleed.... Industry standard, to ensure you go home safe

Blind, drain and purge.

Chemistry in general is a clusterfuck

Yep I'm a new engineer at a refinery and the plant condition is terrible. Fixing equipment is expensive and no one wants to do it. Plus it's rare for engineers to stay more than a few years bc the job kills you internally

I agree! His voice is pleasing and he actually knows how to pronounce words. Unlike some other sites that use those stupid Robo voices, drives me crazy. Peace

They recommended a blind though

They recommended freeze control for the entire facility. They weren't recommending freeze control on the unused line, that is as long as the unused line was completely disconnected.

Ya think? 😂

Butane sphere, according to the video.

yeah, was waiting for a richter scale measurement

We don't need to imagine it. It happened in 1956

Ha. I have worked at COUNTLESS refineries (I'm a welder/fabricator), I have not once had to turn in the end of my electrodes. Not once. But I always take the same amount of electrodes out and make sure I pick up the ends of the electrodes when getting more or leaving the area.

@white zebra 2:21

I do... was 11F at my house a couple of weeks ago.

Ball valves can leak past their packing into the atmosphere, creating a hazard that way. There is no totally fail-safe valve topology. What really was needed was basic instrumentation to verify at minimum the pressure in the dead leg, and better yet flow rates in and out the active legs of the rest of the unit. These guys have more than enough money to afford a few $k in additional gauges and instrumentation to verify proper operation.

Ball valves are fine, but easily opened. A gate valve is a slow open valve. Both valves have their useful areas of use.

@@tetrabromobisphenol ef seal packing...

Quarter turn valves, such as ball valves, have a better packing solution nowadays than linear valves such as gate valves. Quarter turn of the valve shaft creates less friction on the valve packing. In a linear valve the shaft rotates and moves upward / downward, putting way more stress on the valve packing.

I have no idea whats going on but I like listening to you guys.

Its not a story. Its an real incident.

Is that also your approach to formatting a paragraph?

Your formatting reminds me of u/HaikusBot

@@ACoarseGuy i hope you have a nice day

@@augustreigns9716 I hope you have one too

@@ACoarseGuy thank you

kahoala3 ....The CSB is hurting American business with regulation!!! It’s making America LOOSE! I alone can fix it!! The naysayers on the other hand....SAD. Very Very low IQ people. Armed teachers on the premises could have prevented this tragedy!!