CSL DD vs. ALPHA MINI vs. CAMMUS DD!!! 

@@tsunamiken lol thank you so much!!!

This video was more to help people decide if they were struggling to make a choice. Even though Cammus won on paper with the points, if you or others value one of the categories more, it's easier to decide I think.

I was so excited to be able to do this video and I have been waiting a long time. I'm happy that Cammus came on to the scene shortly after I announced I was planning a CSL DD vs Simagic video. This really added a whole different layer that is much welcomed in this space!

Thank you! I have been wanting to make a CSL DD vs Simagic video for a good while, the Cammus popping onto the scene was really unexpected.

That's a huge compliment man, I'm happy to be that for you right now! I got 4 more Simagic videos planned for release, 2 of them filmed, a pedal review, pedal mod video and then a ton of regular videos of course. I haven't abandoned Simterviews btw, just made it my goal to get product related stuff out before Christmas so people can be informed.

No doubt, he puts stuff out in time for coffee. It also explains the high count of pajama vids.

@@CypressWalker lol

You as well man! Thank you for all your support you give!

That was my exact goal, to share my knowledge of these three great options to help people like you find something that will suit their needs/wants. :)

Thank you for watching and sharing how you feel! Makes me feel proud to do what I'm doing!

@@DouglasThompson You should be proud! Keep being you, man

Thanks man! I try.

Thank you much! I tried to be as straight forward as possible. They are all great but I know my choice! ;)

Thank you so much! And yes the motor is a 17nm motor that is down tuned, I asked them if it would be possible to extract more force out of the wheelbase through firmware updates and they said yes, they are long term testing the wheelbase at different levels to see what the maximum they can get out of it will be. ;)

Simagic has many new impressive products.

Agree 100% I actually used to refer people to accuforce as the best budget DD PC option before Fanatec came out with the CSL DD. No it's all about Simagic and Cammus around this price point. They are the 2 biggest forces in this range.

it really is a great setup. could easily accept it as my forever base.

@@DouglasThompson well I'll at least be happy with it for a couple of years until I go for an SC2 Pro. That's the dream base right there.

@@LowBlow I've heard nothing but good from them! Great end goal!

Really...I'll have to check into that. Maybe I'll reach out to them.

It really is...it's gigantor compared. That's why I wanted the mini in the Middle so that could be seen! ;)

@@DouglasThompson just gotta say that its amazing that you are one of the only reviewers that has compared all 3 wheelbases. thanks for your hard work. imo fanatec is like the apple of the sim racing world while simagic is like samsung. cammus huawei/xiaomi. hahaha

@@keanetan2439 lol that's a great comparison!

@@keanetan2439 100% agregó. Fanatec has became something like the Apple religion in simracing, Even has an army of "fanatecs" after it.

Correct! Lol

Literally what I told him too

Thank you both! I know it can hurt my chances working with certain companies in the future but if they make something I can stand behind, I think people are able to see that shine through on the videos. Even though Simagic and Fanatec got 2nd and 3rd in this video that doesn't make them bad options but for someone wanting to feel confident they made a solid choice based on the qualities they hold most important, this video can help I think.

Lol

Yes indeedy, I'm going to try and break this video up into small sections so it's easier to navigate when I get time.

Hear hear

Thank you for your kind words, that is my goal here! Any one of these products on their own could please someone for years to come but with so many choices these days it's nice to be able to see how they stack up to each other in all the ways I could think of. Did you get the samurai sword or the one with the integrated handle?

@@kenhiew2900 :)

@@DouglasThompson the samurai one, the others weren't available on amazon when i bought it, but i payed only 60€ for it, more than worth them! Now i'd need a sequential shifter but amazon doesn't have any here, so i think i'd have to go the aliexpress way EDIT: BTW another "broke simracing" suggestion i have: instead of buying expensive button box to have paddles on your wheels, on 3drap you can buy paddle shifters at less than 40€ (a bit more for the "pro" ones, but they're worth the extra cost), and get an aluminum or carbon plate cut for you, then you only need a joystick board (10€ on amazon) and some buttons (10 metal ones for 9€) and you can have a custom USB button plate for any wheel you like really cheap (i can send you photos of the two i made for myself)

@@martinocesaratto that would be cool to see. demureg@gmail.com

It really is a cool base!

Definitely a good option but quality-wise I would not put the CSL universal hub in the same category as what Cammus has to offer. Thank you for adding that though, it's an option for Fanatec users that need a cost effective way to attach any rim they want.

@@DouglasThompson Indeed immediately bought 3 rims lol

Thank you much RVR!

I did really like that about the Simagic actually...I didn't have to worry about my cables hitting my monitor stand. Good point!

i think you need to pin this comment. Strong video tho!💪👌

@@sleit0n whoops thought I did. Thank you!

Ordered my mini! If I needed a fancy wheel I would have gone with one of the other two, simagic wheels are so expensive. Although I have seen a few eBay usb flappy paddle systems from Russia that bolt between hub and wheel if I wanted to do gt racing.

Your value calculations are off. It seems like you're purely looking at nm per $ in which case CSL comes in second. It's $60 per nm. Mini is $63.

@@regibson23 I did the calculations purely on how I feel. There is no way you can put these 3 up against each other any other way imo. They are all great, they all perform and do what they are supposed to do, it boils down to the individual and what they hold highest, what categories are most important to them. I feel you hold looks, sound levels and mounting options high on your list. :) I feel I did these wheelbases justice and if you don't agree, that's ok! We all value things differently, I just hope I can help people decide what's best for them as individuals.

Any of the 3 would be great choices, honestly. What type of racing you do is one of the biggest factors ime.

@@DouglasThompson I’m into sim drifting ! I have a t300 rs id like to upgrade soon looking at the alpha mini a lot!

@jacobgoyeau the mini is a great base, super cool, knly thing I didn't like was the price and the non standard mounting base size but you can get an adapter.

Well if you buy from me right now it's 500 dollars flat no shipping. First 30 usa customers only

Not sure why my first comment didn't post everything I wrote but I suggest to keep the V3's, the Simagic pedals definitely feel better for the most part but the Fanatecs feel great for the money. I also like the fanatec hydraulic brake pedal better than Simagics. Simagics feels more like air than fluid.

I agree too that it's great to finally see a comparison of DD wheels. The only other proper DD wheels comparison I found is from the Simracing Garage from more than 5 years ago.. About the FFB overall satisfaction and detail (the most important part imho): maybe the less detail of the Cammus is due to some smoothing that could be tweaked in the future with newer versions of their software? Btw, I like the name the "DTDD Emporium" (tagline could be "The comparison videos that the simracing garage doesn't do anymore").

@@favs970 lol I don't want to throw a jab at Barry, I think he does great work. The tuning software is still in it's infancy with Cammus so it will indeed improve with time. Don't get me wrong it feel great and is my favorite feeling of all three! I use a motion rig when I race on my own time and that actually introduces all that sort of small vibrations that the Cammus is a bit worse at so when my rig is doing it's thing the pedals, shifter, handbrake, steering wheel, seat all have that road noise feel! ;)

@@DouglasThompson hehe yeah I like Barry too, I was just wishing for more comparison vids.. (and to the SRG much deserved credit, he was basically the only one to ever do DDs comparisons before)

@@favs970 He seems top be slowing his content down a bit, not sure if maybe he is busy outside of youtube or just needed a break.

Thank you much! I tried to break it down so people could target exactly what features ere important to them.

Lol it's the bane of a Sim racer...

I had a DD1 with F1 wheel combo as well, paid 1800...sold it for the CSL DD. Lol

@@DouglasThompson really!? Wow. Yeah I don’t get it how all these cheaper bases can outperform a product that’s twice as expensive. It’s a little annoying tbh. Are you gonna stick with the csl dd or switch over? If so which one?

@@dirtinthebox32 I have switched over to the Cammus full time, I am keeping the csl DD as backup still though.

Ya they are all great honestly.

Nice man! Glad I could provide some info to help confirm your choice!

@@DouglasThompson cheers for the reply, should be here in the next day or two =) just got the base as I have osw rims

@@emde174 you will love it. Great little base and impressive for the size.

they are working on other wheel options and they will also be implementing a directional stick or 2 on the next wheel button box iteration. I'd like to think I have something to do with that decision. ;) my wheelbase runs cool to the touch even at 100 percent output. the Simagic I tested actual is the only one that gets warm to the touch. even that one doesn't get hot though.

That's a great idea but that would be impossible to keep up with unfortunately. :(

@@DouglasThompson no worries

Are you talking about the Cammus? If so the store is being altered. You have to contact Rebecca on that page.

I'd say you have the absolute best belt driven wheelbase on the market, stay with that till it breaks imo. DD feels better but the Fanatec belt driven bases are some of the best on the market if the torque level satisfies you still. :)

That's true and I think I mentioned that in the comparison, Fanatec is definitely a driving force in the industry and although I recommend the Mini and Cammus over the Fanatec for the type of racing I do, it doesn't mean the winner of this comparison is the best choice for everyone. ;)

Thank you so much! That is what I try to do and I'm glad you can appreciate it!

Lol you'd be surprised how easy it is. I mostly use the right momentary switch but you can reach around.

You must realize nearly all of this is opinion that's why people watch my videos,they want my opinion on things. ;) Also the slap was not what I based my points on, that was for fun lol I try to keep things fun while I give information out. Having multiple quick release options is essential for many and although my only reason to have 4 at any one time is because I have a video series called BrokeA$$ $imra¢ing where I need to switch quickly between 3 or more setups. Check it out if you haven't already! Either way, Im glad you got some enjoyment out of my video and I appreciate you taking the time to give feedback on the video!

Let me know how the VRS is! :) Been hearing a lot about that option.

I reached out to them to see if they would be willing to send a review unit.

Cammus is doing 650 for 15nm base and wheel combo right now, also you can use my "doug" code for 5 percent off! ;) They also have a 300 dollar 8nm wheelbase soon. I will be reviewing right when it comes out! Stay tuned.

I tried, it didnt work, it fit though

50mm

What is the xf1 sport?

Incredible detail, I agree. The size is something I wish more companies would replicate. Simagic has proven this size is possible, hopefully the next iterations of companies DD offerings will follow suit!

Lol

let me answer you by saying this. I got into sim racing to recover my left shoulder after surgery so I could know when ai could safely drive my car again. ;)

I requested the game compatibility list, they are compiling it. :) The English version of the android app is still being finalized, the iOS one is up but I don't have an iPhone or know anyone with one... :( The handbrake, pedals and sequential plug into the rear currently. It would most likely take a month or so by sea from my experience buying Chinese goods. I think Cammus will stick around because they have already been around for a good while in the automotive industry, sim racing is now a permanent part of the auto industry! :)

With a drill yes

Nice man! You will be very happy!

@@DouglasThompson yes I am !

Only pc

It's a great base for sure! Not my choice but it is an excellent option out of these three!

Thank you dad!

@@DouglasThompson 🚓

@@richardthompson7611 🎠

If you're looking at a full set Ruoveden, wheel/base, pedals, etc. Prepare to pay around 1k.

@@DouglasThompson uh. any suggestion on the base pedals and wheel?

@user-bp9oj5ly1k any direct drive wheelbase within your chosen budget will be able to handle gt3 style racing. The fanatec bundle will be fine for you, the cammus 15nm bundle with lc100 pedals will be the best bang for your buck. Moza also makes a nice entry level bundle but pedal-wise, you won't find better than what cammus offers for the money and that will do more for your driving than a wheelbase because they are all capable of high fidelity ffb.

Hey man, unfortunately I don't play Iracing mostly due to my disapproval of their subscription model. My apologies I can't help you with your question but I refuse to back a game that is set up this way. I hope you understand. :)

@@DouglasThompson nah I totally get it I'm super iffy on it myself still thanks for the fast reply 🍻

@@deathofthe-ego8454 ya man

You looking for setup suggestions? Ffb and such?

@@DouglasThompson not necessarily, but would probably be appreciated. Just wanted to know a good community forum to ask questions and for suggestions when I need them. I probably won't have my rig running for a few more weeks so don't really need setup suggestions just yet.

@@dingusmagee3326 I'm sure there are some forums on Reddit. Fanatec has a forum as well but Fanatec themselves rarely comment or help people. You can always post on here and I will do my best to help you. ;)

@@DouglasThompson cool cool. In regards to setting the pedal height, would you recommend it be even with the bottom of my seat?

This is dependent on the type of racing you do most and your own personal preference. I like mine similar to my real car. Perhaps just measure your daily driver and have that be a starting point?

I have many irl drifting friends that say it can feel just like their cars with some ffb tuning. I don't drift myself but most of my friends that bought Cammus bases do.

If you end up wanting the lc100 pedals, please watch my video showing how to get the most out of them! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wNoc-g0kXgM.html

If you are speaking of connecting pedals straight to the wheelbase, yes only Cammus pedals will work.

I call it "noise" almost like static on a TV but through your hands. That is harder to feel, the ffb feels more rounded (in a pleasant way).

Also, I'm not sure about that game but I think it is. I have requested Cammus compile a "compatible games" list for the website. They are working on it. :)

@@DouglasThompson thank you For the quick reply, i'm planning to upgrade from a csw v2.5 to a direct drive wheel and this looks promising only issue that i have with it that there are no costumer reviews on it which would help with the decision.

Ask me anything :)

You sound about as lucky as me when it comes to Fanatec gear. I have had quite a few occasions when I had to make use of Fanatec's "customer service" it's more like a disservice...lol If they spent a bit more of thier profits on customer service and quality control they might be in a more favorable position in my mind. They make some good gear and they do a lot of promotion for simracing but they are not my favorite people...

This is good info. I’ve just jumped from console to PC and looking for a DD. Fanatec sound horrible to get hold of, have stuff delivered and just deal with on a human level it seems. Where I thought it excelled was quality, eco system and range. But, if quality is as you say, that’s another reason to avoid them. They are also always out of stock in Australia where I live.

@@rover1374 Consider that Fanatec has a much larger user base and has been around for a lot longer, so there will be a lot more people eager to complain and even more that are using it happily with no issue.

Keep in mind Fanatec is compatible with more games as well if you play a huge list of racing games. Most of the big titles are supported of course.

@@DouglasThompson Mostly rally games as I love Dirt, but ACC, F1 and might venture into iRacing at some point. How would you compare simagic wheels to fanatec ones, are they worth the price premium?

If you do rally, the Cammus or Fanatec will serve you well. The Simagic is probably the best feeling for the power range it sits in but it's just held back by the wheel mounting options honestly...

@@DouglasThompson Can't you just use their optional QR, or any other NRG type QR for all wheels?

Much better than a belt driven system.

@@DouglasThompson thank you!

I'd love to, I will ask simagic I'd they would be willing to send a review unit.

Correct. Its one of the best features!

No, it doesn't actually, I thought it did, but there is a difference

@@DouglasThompson thank you!

I'm pretty sure they have stock. They are working on the revised model. Not sure if they sold out of V1's yet.

Subbed. Thanks!!

@@davenazemoto9788 Thank you!!! also, I will be reviewing the V2's as soon as they are ready. ;) along with the hall effect sensor sequential and load cell handbrake!

Thank you much! Cammus will be sending me the new Lp8 8nm dd wheelbase and they also have the 250 dollar 5nm with 7nm peak torque C5 dd wheelbase. ;) they have been doing great things for the simracing community

No they don't, I tried. Well they fit, yes but the buttons don't work.

@@DouglasThompson OK, good to know. Thanks for the feedback man, keep up the good work!

Thank you much! Will have some new gear to review in the coming weeks! ;)

Thank you Gavigan!

@@DouglasThompson your welcome Dumplas Thogson

@@gavancorrigan8813 Thank you Gavel!

Ya man! Cammus is an exciting company! I was always under the impression Thrustmaster was Xbox compatible as well... Strange

Yes TM and Logitech work on console, but it's nothing to compare with a DD

@@rr_reaperqc yes, I see. Well Thrustmaster has the stage set for them, they better perform when it comes time,too bad they had to delay it...

All products will allow you to drift, there are profiles from each company.

What is the DD snub?

No, if you turn interpolation filter off to a completely raw signal the Fanatec CSL DD provides more detail.

@@DouglasThompson yes, i now this! but if u put it to max (at 20 i think), how is it compared to Cammus?

Ahhh I see...well I would say the Cammus would feel similar or slightly better.

@Douglas Thompson that is nice! 🔥😁 Thank you! 🙏

Not sure, I'm sure anything dd above 5nm will serve you well though.

@@DouglasThompson thanx

windbooster.com or the new cammus.com site use "doug" for a discount ;)

Already have, it's on the table. I'm not sure if/when its going to be available but I have told them they should offer the button box as a standalone device for like 100 dollars or something.

@@DouglasThompson You're doing God's work my man!

:)

you sir have the correct mindset! the best wheelbase is the one you have/ will get. :)

im loving my csl dd, i would have almost gone with the sim magic but i wanted to complete my eco system since i had the pedals handbrake and shifter already

@@SSmallwood not to take away from your excitement but be aware of what you just said. "I wanted to complete my ecosystem because I had the pedals,handbrake and shifter already." That's how they get you to keep on buying Fanatec stuff. ;) Once you're in deep, you're going to have to lose some blood to get out. Lol

@@DouglasThompson absolutely, im planning on going to the BJ steel hydraulic gt pedal set next year :D

@@SSmallwood haven't seen that one, I'll check it out!

Did you try rolling it back or it didn't let you? Did you try to put it into manual update mode? Not sure if it would have helped but I'm curious.

@@DouglasThompson I tried everything . Every driver , bootloader , deleting reinstalling, I did it all nothing got the motor to update.

@@CaliCuh that's too bad...I'm sorry your experience was so horrible. Fanatec software isn't perfect. Its mostly good though.

@@DouglasThompson yea they handled it well . 1 week from when I sent out and had a new one not bad at all. Can’t complain .

@@CaliCuh they shipped it out before receiving the broken unit first?

They do have an amazing ecosystem but it just feels so controlling and that's what I don't like about it. As we both agree it is still a great option for PC and currently the best option for console.

I can see your point. I look at it like this If you drift or play rally, you don't need paddle shifters or a button box on your wheel, you can still use the buttons on the base to navigate game menus without having to get your keyboard or mouse. This is especially important in VR to have something hard mounted so your hand always know where to go as it's very annoying to take a headset off just to find a certain key on a keyboard. ;) I have also successfully used the wheelbase buttons in game as well, even a simple function like "ignition" in beamng feels cool to use the wheelbase buttons for. Keep in mind this is my personal experience with the units and I also don't race much outside of rally so my perspective is geared that way. :) Thank you for the comment!

@@DouglasThompson To be fair. I can see the good side of it as well. Like you can even get a wheel with no electronics, just the cammus base and attach it to that and just use the base buttons. I see what they aiming for. They're trying to give the fairest offer.

"when it comes to reviews it just feels like you actually mean everything you say"... Take my word for it, he does mean everything he says... He's into it 100%!

@@richardthompson7611 Thank you! :)

@@laur.an01 :)

Check the links in the description, they will lead you to the wheelbase or the wheel+base. You can also buy a bundle with the pedals for around 200 more I think.

@@DouglasThompson I checked that, thank you for that, but there is no Add to Cart or Buy button in the windbooster store, jus email to Rebecca Zhao.

@@filipruml I have an add to cart function....let me checi

@@filipruml I guess you have to contact Rebecca her email is media@windbooster.com. please mention my name and the code "Doug". It will give you around 50 USD off and it will help me get ahold of future items to review.

I have the mini on a GT Omega Apex stand and it's sturdy enough to fully enjoy it.

Or you can easily just limit the power and match what csl dd has

@@dcu21 In Rurope SImagic and Cammus is really more expensive. I would go for the alfa mini for sure if I the price wasn't like 30-40% more than China/US

You can always turn it down. ;)

@@KondyoTheLightning wow...that's really too bad. I'm sorry I didn't include that in the comparison but I am speaking from a North American perspective as you know. Wouldn't the Fanatec be just as much of a price increase or is it because the Simagic and Cammus are Chinese companies affecting the price?

I don't think so, you would have to buy the wheel kit and buy like a Dimsim wheel rim. I'll see if I can find you one. The Cammus wheel rim/button box and quick release goes for 200 I think. So you would still be getting a great deal even if you paid for a second rim.

Something like this www.ebay.com/itm/DimSim-F320H-Steering-Wheel-SIMRACING-/184143077601?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

@@DouglasThompson thanks! Can I still use that with the layout of the cammus button box?

I think so let me see if it looks like it will clear.

@@xenon2561 I think it would work out based on what I can see but it's really hard to tell without them in front of you.

Can't go wrong with any of them but if detail is what you're after, you will find it with the simagic. :)

Ya definitely. Just take a price of paper and poke holes in the bottom and match the paper up with the desk and drill some slightly larger holes and you're good to go! ;)

I think you can mount it using a metal fanatec clubsport table clamp

Definitely would love too but this is more based on price. :) this was also when the csl dd was more expensive.

Yes, if you have a strict budget the CSL DD will treat you good for that money.

@@DouglasThompson thank you for your quick reply 😁

For about 50-100 dollars more you could get a full Cammus setup but you would have to do sea shipping to keep the cost down and that would take much longer to get to you.

@@DouglasThompson I did a little bit of research and watched all your videos about the cammus and of course i suscribed to yor channel😁. I dident realise that this is a very new product and that it is awesome your review did make me think really do buy one support some smaller company that made a much better product than fanatec for less money.

They are a really cool company and I can see them doing big things (bigger things) ;)

I reached out to maza but they haven't responded more than the initial time but that was months ago. If you want me to review it and compare it against the wheelbases that I own and have owned write them an email please. :)

Possibly, I have seen some people mention thier peak nm is higher than 10nm as well.

It's what I have used exclusively since I've owned a cammus base.

Perhaps in the future. ;)

its around 80% more expensive vs the fanatec

@@joost1183 What? If you want just a round wheel with Fanatec and 8Nm. It is 480€ for base and then additional minimum of 200€ for the wheel (WRC, Mclaren GT3) or if you want something bigger, because you find 30cm to be a bit on the small side, so something like 33-35cm, you need a Podium Hub. So in total you are paying 680€. Simagic Alpha Mini for 13Nm with their wheelside 70mm QR you pay 735€ and you already have the QR. So there is only 55€ difference which if we ASSUME that they have the same strength, which they don't. Is not even 10% more expensive, compared to the Fanatec. *I have excluded the rim price in both of these examples. Because we are interested in price difference to mount the wheel and not total price with the wheel. But if you wan't podium level of wheel, then you get the whole GT1 pack for 1080€ With Fanatec Porsche Podium steering wheel which is 550€ extra the total is 1030€ Again, the price difference is still about 50€. So I don't understand on what you are basing your claims. Also with Fanatec it is known that the button caps keep braking, even the podium ones. Simagic buttons are made differently, so I don't expect to see a single one broken/split. On my Universal HUB all button caps have split in about a year of use.

@@nejcmirtic529 8nm is also not really enough for a standard 350mm steering wheel so you're really limited to sim racing wheels (only fanatec wheels will work) and the least desirable aftermarket ones.

@@Shakshuka69 I know, noticed that with my CSW 2.5 for 2kg combo of Universal Hub and 33cm OMP GP Racing steering wheel. That it is losing details compared to the Formula V2.5 when I borrowed it from a friend for a comparison. But as I said earlier this week, when I decide to swap it will most likely be a SC2 Pro or the second best thing VRS DFP.

The Simagic is a great option at this price point, as I said, if you hold Small FFB Detail high with a good amount of headroom, it's the clear choice of the 3.

It's in the comments. :)

cammus.com/download/ Then click on the first option "sim racing drive" I think

@@DouglasThompson Thx :)

I am the US dealer now...lol

@@DouglasThompson Oh cool! Where can I go to purchase it?

@@Shake_nBake805 email me at demureg@gmail.com

I've heard of heat issues but the V3 bases (current model) seem to have solved it. I have not experienced any heat issues myself.

Nice! Make sure and mention my name and you will get money off if you decide to go for it. ;)

Oh yes indeed, Cammus now has the smallest 12nm wheelbase on the market though. ;)

That's interesting, I'll see if I can find out why the Cammus is so much more in Europe. Thank you for sharing your experience/thoughts. :)

cammus is just 500 usd dollars. why its expensive than simagic???

@@windboosterwinsbooster5870 Shipping

@@windboosterwinsbooster5870 shipping and VAT brings the cammus base to about 750€

@@DouglasThompson in South America the base with the wheel is $698 + $300 for shipping and 23% of taxes, I almost 1200us$. The csl DD 8nm Is about $700 for the base (shipping and taxes included and $270 for universal hub with wheel that was for sale on black Friday. Now the alpha mini I found it in about $1400 after taxes with free shipping with the GTR round wheel. So I'm in a really crossroads in cancelling the csl DD order and add some extra money for the cammus or alpha mini. I'm basically a rally driver but like the details and realistic ffb and that's my concern with the cammus. What would you do in my case?