CTA Gates Of Hell Ostfront: Conquest Guide For Beginners/Intermediates!

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CTA Gates Of Hell Ostfront: Conquest Guide For Beginners/Intermediates!
Call to Arms Gates of Hell Ostfront DLC
Relish the staggering realism of WWII: No detail spared. This historically accurate RTS enables you to control single infantrymen in audacious raids and entire tank regiments in the greatest battles of the war. The time has come to experience the hell that soldiers endured.
Today I'll be going over all the things you need to know to play conquest mode. I'll show how to navigate the research tree, resupply, Attacking/defending missions, and much more! All the basics to mold a pro!
Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:48 Basic Understanding/Info
07:38 In Depth Research Tree
11:30 Tank Research Pros/Cons
15:56 Knowing What To Research
18:01 Infantry Research Pros/Cons
22:36 Base Defense/Artillery Research
23:33 Picking Reserve Units
26:26 Call Sign Setup
27:26 Unit Stats
27:40 Infantry Stats
30:54 AT/AP Unit Stats
31:52 Light Armor Stats
34:36 Tank Stats
35:47 Support Points
36:14 Selecting Missions/Rewards
40:13 Attacking Mission
40:18 Basic Hud Info
41:24 Keep In Mind
42:14 Call Sign Info
43:03 How "I" Like To Start
43:48 Artillery Quick Movement Tips
44:40 How To Act If Surprise Attacked
45:43 How To 1st/3rd Person Units
46:23 Vehicle Dangers Quick Tip
48:50 First Point Captured
49:15 MG Management/Help Tip
50:48 Defensive Setup After Capture
51:30 Taking Enemy Equipment/Vehicles
55:33 Starting To Scout
55:50 231 Vehicle Scouting
56:57 Enemy Artillery Ambush
57:55 Ambushing Enemy Artillery
59:00 Ambushing Tanks
01:03:41 Medic Truck
01:06:25 Taking Final Point
01:10:00 Victory Hud Info
01:11:57 Resupply & Economic Strategies (Very Important)
01:16:40 Ammo Crate Saves Resupply
01:18:14 Picking Defending Mission
01:18:51 Defending Mission
01:19:13 Don't Make This Mistake!
01:19:52 Infantry Scouting Setup
01:21:07 Setting Up Defenses (No Engineer Defenses)
01:22:23 Know Enemy Spawn
01:23:20 Why Scouts/Smokes Are Needed #1
01:24:47 Why Scouts/Smokes Are Needed #2
01:25:52 Why Scouts/Smokes Are Needed #3
01:26:51 Healing/Fixing Artillery Units
01:28:56 Why Scouts/Smokes Are Needed #4
01:29:37 Field Medic/Smoke Tactics
01:31:35 Making Medics Better
01:32:50 Resupplying Soldiers
01:38:04 Why Scouts/Smokes Are Needed #5
01:39:18 Taking Enemy Artillery Before Timer
01:40:55 Defending Victory/Stats
01:42:34 Final Thoughts
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@BarbedwireGamedevStudios 2 года назад

This tutorial will feature in the Community tutorial playlist on our official channel: ru-vid.com/group/PLlqc9tFAAEUCz33colVOQMPPEfJOHn2GD

@markleighthomas7270 4 месяца назад

I got into PC gaming PURELY for this kind of game, I bought the game and never really played it because it was too daunting and intimidating, I watch this tutorial and its given me confidence to play properly, thank you for the tutorial :) means a lot

@PuggoRebornChannel 4 месяца назад

Means a lot to hear!

@theodorechill 4 месяца назад

Played for the first time today. One of my all time favorite tips is that you can shift + 1 to 0 to group the squads into categories. Then, after you divide them up, you just hit tthat assigned key to bring them back together. Changes the game ENTIRELY in my opinion.Tired of not knowing who is what and belongs where haha

@arktroopergaming1658 2 года назад

I noticed at 49:50 about the MG ammo problem, you don't need to do this. If you select the mg assistant with the mg operator they both share ammo automatically in fact all units do share ammo when they are selected into squads instead of individual units.

@PuggoRebornChannel 2 года назад

Good to know, always just transferred ammo

@michaelhawkins7389 Месяц назад

@@PuggoRebornChannel You need to update this ( as in make a new vidoe ) as there has been some new updates to conquest mode for Gates Of Hell

@kidmanwalters4236 11 месяцев назад

Trenches and landmines carry my conquests. I also think it's cool equipment and uniforms are persistent between battles . You can become really attached to your crews and infantry. Makes them feel alive

@Shiveringnudus Год назад

I just got the game on steam on sale and got absolutely destroyed my first couple missions. I found your guide on RU-vid and it has made my campaign so much more enjoyable and I’ve learned so much. Thank You!

@littlesteve1000 2 месяца назад

I know I'm late to this, but learned so much, how to set up the conquest, then how to use your troops, tactic's, most helpful video I've seen, plus all the tips, etc for the tree's, how they link, and discovering the various item's. Thanks Again, for your time and effort. Steve from LONDON UK

@PuggoRebornChannel 2 месяца назад

Thanks, Steve! Glad it helped!

@MrBioshock123 2 года назад

I learned a lot from this video! I'm glad you decided to show your attack and defence it was very informative, also I really like your the way you edited the video; zooming in on the things your were talking about it was very helpful.

@PuggoRebornChannel 2 года назад

Awesome to hear! More videos like this to come

@TheSkarsbo 2 года назад

This is great. I started watching the basic guide at 3 AM last night and watched through even though I almost died of sleep at the end due to being tired. I just woke up and had to watch this. It’s a hard, but fun game. Thank you Puggo. You got yourself a new subscriber.

@PuggoRebornChannel 2 года назад

Awesome to hear! Hope these guides serve you well!

@novosakharchenko5238 Год назад

You really helped me with this "Phase 2" thing. I didn`t know that clicking on the officer`s neighbour treepoint let me get the double of troops (110).

@PuggoRebornChannel Год назад

Happy it helped!

@ribbs67 Год назад

I would love to see them be able to marry the conquest and skirmish modes together I feel the conquest is just attack each base mortar them to death and move on to the next. The AI just sits there and doesn't do much. If you could play skirmish battles and be able to keep and acquire enemy assets and create a larger scale battle That would be cool

@Hoolygamer Год назад

Thanks man, your guides are very well explained and straight to the point. I would say that they are on the same level as a high subscriber count channel, but a lot of them aren't as concise as you are. Hopefully more audiences will follow you in the future because you have a the bearings a great RU-vidr.

@maximeleduc3004 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the tutorial. This was very useful - especially with the detailed descriptions and the nuances you're providing.

@Enigma89 2 года назад

Very helpful guide, thank you for taking the time.

@paulwoolcock6364 2 года назад

These are so bloody good. Phenomenal stuff!

@artfact2 Год назад

That was really helpful, I'll be restarting my campaign with this knowledge, thank you.:)

@Magnificent2600 8 месяцев назад

WoW Man! Thanks I was struggling to understand conquest mode. This is a super awesome video and its gonna take me a long way. Thanks for your time and detail you have put into this video.

@PuggoRebornChannel 8 месяцев назад

Absolutely!

@bobdoba1 Год назад

Nice tutorial, good clear advice. I may have missed seeing it in the vid but a handy deployment trick is to click and drag multiple Infantry. Usually the curser pops a ghost to show possible deployment points for soldiers, however if you select a group of soldiers then mouse over a position you will get multiple ghosts, now drag, the ghosts will be dispersed further with a longer drag. If there is no cover the soldiers spread out perpendicular to the drag, handy for deploying quickly behind a ridge or wall. If there is scattered cover, for example forest or rubble the soldiers will disperse outward in a scatted orb in cover. If you click and drag within a trench line the soldiers will disperse in the trench(mostly). If I cannot capture a piece of enemy equipment because it's to risky to fetch or time is running out, I'll blow it up, just because.

@idrisAkbarAdyusman Год назад

Awesome guide! also thank you for adding the chapters in the video, it is very useful for me to see which part that I need, especially for a long video like this.

@PuggoRebornChannel Год назад

Absolutely! A video like this needs timestamps

@briand7285 Год назад

Before this I wAs scared, confused then frustrated lol. So staid away and only done single. Now my confidence is good. Thanks so much. Bri 🇬🇧😎

@StrongmanLovesAnimals 3 месяца назад

Just bought the game this week..... You've helped me so much, truley thank you

@Zeemarks 2 года назад

This tutorial was awesome, super informative!

@htuna4101 6 месяцев назад

Great video! Remember that you can search bodies too with the V key, that way when you grab a weapon off the ground, you can search the soldier for ammo.

@alexandresilva7394 Год назад

16:39 Its Panzer IV H thats what people usually call it, One of the best médium tanks! Worth to Invest INTO it! Nice vídeo thanks for the tutorial!

@michaelpruden 4 месяца назад

I enjoy your videos and have found them to be very helpful. One thing I've not seen anyone talk about, and I myself find very helpful, is the option to "restart" your missions. I had a mission the other day that started with the enemy launching a bombing run which destroyed my newly researched heavy tank that I had never got the chance to use. First thing, right out of the gate, boom. My new tank is already out of the mission and is gone gone, un-repairable. I felt cheated honestly. But! Press ESC, select restart, you get new missions to choose from, maybe new maps too, and it restarts without any cost to you other then loading time. So if you find a mission has gone horribly wrong, at any point during the mission, you can restart and try again without suffering any losses. Beginners will love this because it allows you to try and try again, until you've got it right.

@engineer5520 2 года назад

Great video! As a die hard Men of War fan who owns all the titles this still very informative and useful.

@Ryan-lx6oh Год назад

Great tutorial man! Just wanted to let you know that your work is appreciated!

@PuggoRebornChannel Год назад

Happy to help!

@nikorpel 2 года назад

I really like your tutorials. Keep making more. Some thoughts: You should also explain the ammo supply more. Like your soldiers can also supply from the ammo boxes and trucks. (not mentioned in the video) but its great that they can also take additional enemy weapons. Also this is very important: If you ever make a video specific about artillery: mortars and howitzers. You should use the "attack ground" option. Like you can set a constant artillery barrage to the enemy zones while your troops move closer. And you don't have to see enemy just you know they are there. (you may also hear them) This works also very nice in defense when you can bombard the enemy spawn points. Like individual direct control is good but it's also time consuming. Big howitzers with ammo trucks can easily clear any capture points from enemies far away while your troops move closer.

@PuggoRebornChannel 2 года назад

Good points, I'm 100% with you attacking the ground with Artillery. Will definitely add this when I come to this video. Feel free to leave more tips as you see fit

@nikorpel 2 года назад

@@PuggoRebornChannel "Attack ground" can be also used as a defense on choke points where the constant artillery barrage prevents the enemy from reaching you. This is very effective on river crossings.

@l0n3w012ph 2 года назад

This was/is helpful! Thank you very much!

@nadog1011 Год назад

as a long time gamer and big fan of this game love this work keep it up

@gottliebgamer2783 2 года назад

Regarding CTA: GOHO, Hey Puggo i just found your channel and would like to say I love ur guides so far!! Personally, I'd love a video talking about your favorite/best units to use/go for in conquest for all three nations. Keep up the great work! Love from Israel

@flappy3635 5 месяцев назад

Thanks a lot man. This video helps a load I’m really loving this game mode especially the defense part Happy new year!

@PuggoRebornChannel 5 месяцев назад

Happy New Year!

@Fotofred007 3 месяца назад

Thank you for a fantastic informative tutorial. That's 1,5 hour that just flew by. Thank you !

@PuggoRebornChannel 3 месяца назад

Happy it helped!

@ElZorro85 2 года назад

Excellent video! Wish I saw this video when I started out. I still picked up a bunch of stuff that I didn't know yet.

@PuggoRebornChannel 2 года назад

Thanks!

@BarbedwireGamedevStudios 2 года назад

Another great job @Puggo !!

@Mircrystal Год назад

Thanks for the guide!

@bartysp2599 2 года назад

Very nice man, thank you!

@exsnozer 6 месяцев назад

Been playing since launch but had to check the unit stats again. Well done. Good guide overall I think since didnt watch everything but what i saw was great.

@PuggoRebornChannel 6 месяцев назад

Glad you enjoyed!

@kevcole3333 29 дней назад

this is a million subs quality video. - according to wikipedia - The Kfz. 231 had 15 mm armour on the front, 8 mm on the sides, and 10 mm on the back, with 6 mm 5 mm on the top and bottom

@warc8us 6 месяцев назад

Very helpful video, I was pretty much lost in my first few dynamic campaigns - I had no idea how to call in reinforcements, and was going into the third and forth battle with just my first 50.

@PuggoRebornChannel 6 месяцев назад

I feel this. Respect for pushing forward

@rickramos899 Год назад

Thanks for your help!👍

@MedSPAZ 2 года назад

Thank you Puggo, this has helped tremedously

@PuggoRebornChannel 2 года назад

Awesome to hear man!

@joeylandry4933 Год назад

Glad I found your channel, I am now subscribed!

@captdavid160 2 года назад

Thank you so much for explaining the mechanics. I really wish they had a guide or tutorial for conquest, it's baffling they don't.

@PuggoRebornChannel 2 года назад

Here to do what I can to help. I learned all this stuff the hard way haha. Only way to bring more players in is by making guides like this. Thank you for the feedback!

@delle77twitch63 2 года назад

Really great video, thanks for making it ;-)

@nikorpel 2 года назад

Also if you make a separate video about AT guns. You should change the ammo type to HE so that the guns will also fire enemy soldiers. The AT gun will still change the ammo type to AP if it spots a tank, but it sometimes don't swap back to HE shells. So its wise to manage this manually. (I think there will be also more options for the AT guns when the new DLC/update comes out) Also the AT guns can be better than tanks if combined with the howitzers. This could be a video about different tactics/army compositions.

@Thegamingdino133 7 месяцев назад

Great tutorial thanks!

@lookingforwolfy4557 Год назад

Great tutorial Pug!

@jack7dk602 Год назад

super cool. very good. I learned a lot

@jakeh1038 Год назад

Thanks for this

@ThatGuyOptical Год назад

Awesome guide!

@MrMcgnomes 2 года назад

This was super helpful

@TheW0rdMan 6 месяцев назад

I'm rather late to the party but hoping your still making content for this great game, picked it up recently and am loving it!!

@PuggoRebornChannel 6 месяцев назад

Hell yeah! I am currently making content. Thanks for reaching out!

@Kensdisguise 5 месяцев назад

Love the guides...Thanks

@PuggoRebornChannel 5 месяцев назад

Of course!

@pepedrago9849 Год назад

Excellent vid! Only just got the game and have been doing campaign missions to get into the gameplay. I think I'm ready for the conquest now but the start setup is somewhat overwhelming so this is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks, much appreciated!

@PuggoRebornChannel Год назад

Awesome to hear, lemme know if you have any questions moving forward

@pepedrago9849 Год назад

@@PuggoRebornChannel Actually I have one. Is the difficulty level similar in single campaigns? Meaning that the unit count stays the same but the quality rises? I've been playing hard and very hard in campaigns and have found it surprisingly easy. So should I expect similar difficulty in the conguest?

@PuggoRebornChannel Год назад

Enemy gets higher unit count per mission as well as higher tier units

@lololololololol 9 месяцев назад

Great Video!

@ifoundmemallet3394 Год назад

Honestly it’s worth getting to the Jadtiger and King Tiger but the Jadoanther, panther and Tiger 1 are also really strong assets seeing as they have good mobility and work well with strong infantry troops and to protect your artillery. Depends on what PlayStation you want

@JustMaan1 5 месяцев назад

Please keep making these! Just bought the game and want to get better at it.

@PuggoRebornChannel 5 месяцев назад

Of course! What would you like to see?

@spike8298 Год назад

Great tutorial!

@mK-mg1se Год назад

Helped muuch! thx

@toddie0750 2 года назад

thanks mate, great video. love this game but boy its a steep learning curve. Please keep them coming.

@PuggoRebornChannel 2 года назад

For sure!

@oof6205 Год назад

Great guide.

@christopheryoung2874 2 года назад

Great video!

@skelletor86 Год назад

That on the back of the Fallschirmjäger is called „Wechselrohr“ that means translated: change Barrel for MG 34, or 42

@PuggoRebornChannel Год назад

Thank you

@fabpoltronieri 10 месяцев назад

Awesome video, Tks. Greetings from Zurich Switzerland.

@dgdgdg4 Год назад

I enjoyed and learned a lot, thanks man. I think i found darks souls in the rts ww2 genre lol

@1131trop 3 месяца назад

Thank you for your great guide! You are a great teacher! I also notice that when in battle you multitask by both teaching and guiding your squad! :)

@PuggoRebornChannel 3 месяца назад

Thank you!

@vvolvdoom813 4 месяца назад

the thing on the MG Gunners back is the replacement barrel - it's used, once the first one is overheated.

@KingFrederick1st 5 месяцев назад

Thx for the help brother.

@PuggoRebornChannel 5 месяцев назад

Of course, bro!

@MaxPayneLE84 Год назад

incredible game and incredible video! Good job!!!

@PuggoRebornChannel Год назад

Thanks!

@JamesWilliams-iq3me 3 месяца назад

Great tutorial man, I assumed you were a developer for the first 20 mins. Subscribed!

@PuggoRebornChannel 3 месяца назад

Awesome man haha

@merten0083 2 года назад

Nice video, very informative and your timestamps are really useful for finding exactly what I need. Don't burn out ok? lol

@PuggoRebornChannel 2 года назад

Haha not yet, currently working on more vids as we speak

@zadengroenewald991 Год назад

Legendary

@griev0r 4 месяца назад

This was hugely helpful, thank you for putting it together! This is a daunting game to learn and this mode makes it even more complex. The only criticism I have is in game footage is really choppy. I don't know if that happens when you render the video or your pc is just struggling in game. Hope you've upgraded your PC since this video!

@PuggoRebornChannel 4 месяца назад

I most definitely did! Thank you very much!

@Altair1139 5 месяцев назад

To be honest i came here after my first game. I had captured the point and had like 10-11 guys defending/standing behind a sand bag and boom a jeep come took it out. All good and the next thing happed is that a motor came and took out all 10 guys. had only one squad left which were being targeted my motor so i ran with them and there was a tank waiting behind the trees and shot all my squad only 2 medics left. I thought i did something wrong so i came to see if my strategy was wrong. Ty mate

@ACE_VIPER 2 года назад

good stuff this game is amazing

@janik02199 Год назад

37:05 I think, from my experience of 140 h playtime, the higher the stars the more likely it is that the ai fields better units and special units like Artillery pieces, tanks and AA. But it is really hard to tell, so it could also be that it just throws more stuff at you.

@PuggoRebornChannel Год назад

This is correct

@miller330i 2 года назад

21:31 spare barrel holder with quick change barrel for the squad mg.

@chiefawsome1 Год назад

love the video very helpful thank you sir. if you have a great interest in wwl and wwll armored vehicles tanks cars motorcycles and more including the basic foot soldier i would recommend The Chieftain - The tank museum - World Of Tanks North America inside the chieftains hatch series. i binge watch these well playing men of war and call to arms

@PuggoRebornChannel Год назад

Very cool, will look into it!

@budz9461 5 месяцев назад

Just got this game and a BIG thanks for theses tutorials they are so helpful ! Just a quick Q before i end the Round should I carry on and capture/ fix all the stuff before I end the round ?

@PuggoRebornChannel 5 месяцев назад

Sorry so late. Yes, capture anything you desire and fix it. 100% worth doing

@Titus_Vespasianus 6 месяцев назад

best tutorial ever...after 10 minutes in I had a "grasp" of how to play...question...when you dismiss, let's say a tank, what happens to the veteran crew???

@PuggoRebornChannel 6 месяцев назад

They disappeared with the tank. Thanks!

@chrismcm7552 Год назад

These tutorials are so good! Any chance you play multiplayer? It would be awesome if you came out with a multiplayer strategy tutorial. I have 180 hours in the game, and still haven't dipped my feet into that aspect yet

@PuggoRebornChannel Год назад

I'm old school in playing RTS games. I see ppl playing like it's an Esport tournament. As a theory crafter, I'm more of a logistics type of person. Maybe I will try more down the road, but for now I like teaching the fine details

@andreashauschild7757 Год назад

The small tube you see on MG guys are spare barrels for the MG.

@Zen2k4r- 9 месяцев назад

Nice

@user-ls9wd4wn7u Год назад

hello this is great

@jockmcscottish7569 2 года назад

Thanks mate, really helped. As captdavid160 says, strange they dont have some sort of tutorial!

@PuggoRebornChannel 2 года назад

Glad to help, it's my mission to fill this gap. We need more ppl to see this incredible game!

@Njordin2010 5 месяцев назад

This is a first class video! subbed and a question: do they get weapon skills with particular weapons when using them or just skills overall when leveling? greetings from a german soldier.

@PuggoRebornChannel 5 месяцев назад

All skills go up together. Greetings! 🍻

@wasgehtsiedassan8429 Год назад

Thanks your guide motivated me to try dynamic campaigns! Got a question, has the ai unlimited reserves? And are you doing more vids?

@PuggoRebornChannel Год назад

They have a limited reserve, but rather large deployment. I will make more videos at some point. My PC needs some upgrades yet and I don't have the editing software I once did. Definitely have the itch to keep making vids

@qwertyzxcvbn6929 Год назад

I find that with armor the gun and handling is usually most important which is why I generally gravitate to the StuG III F over the IV or III, sure it lacks a turret but it has a freakishly low profile and okay-ish armor and if you know how to StuG they'll get you quite far

@PuggoRebornChannel Год назад

Nice analysis! It's amazing how the detail doesn't get missed in this game. I love the StuG III btw. Just worry about the tracks if not positioned correctly.

@rancorusia 10 месяцев назад

the hetzer is also amazing, its armor is a little more reliable that stugs tend to be, atleast early/midgame

@skleem4871 2 года назад

This game is awesome

@goatrope19 3 месяца назад

Thanks for the video... quick question, would you recommend grabbing arty guns and other equipment at the end with one infantry solider so you can sell them for money? I think you covered that at the very end but just want to double check. Thanks

@PuggoRebornChannel 3 месяца назад

Absolutely, the more money, the better. Glad the video was useful for you!

@vlad_8011 Год назад

What is this cross icon when you choose next battle between reward and season)?

@smoberley 4 месяца назад

Wow. Very helpful. Thank you. So imagine, that you don't know about the callsigns because, well, nothing from the gaming company bothers to explain what they are and you're trying to fight your way through a campaign with one callsign worth of guys only. Sound like fun? Well, its not. LOL

@PuggoRebornChannel 4 месяца назад

Do you have a quest about call-ins? Feel free to ask if unsure

@smoberley 4 месяца назад

@@PuggoRebornChannel Not at the moment thanks! The video makes it very clear. I completely missed that before watching, and was trying to fight campaigns with only one 60 point call-in group. Very very difficult. LOL. I probably would have pitched the game soon without knowing that. Thanks for the game-changer. If i can return the favor in some small way, the correct, or most common American pronunciation, for German paratroops (Fallschirmjäger) is "Fall-shurm-Yay-ger". 🙂

@PuggoRebornChannel 4 месяца назад

Lol dang man, I feel the struggle. 1 call-in would be horrific haha

@idonoach 8 месяцев назад

Great vid. Is it relevant to the original "modern" CTA?

@PuggoRebornChannel 8 месяцев назад

Not that I'm aware. I'm sure things are similar tho

@matijazdravkovic2613 Год назад

I love how i started on my own and knew nothing when i first uncounted a phanter and the tiger in the same round i was so fucked but infantry and flame throwers are so op and saved me tanks need suport do not buy heavy artillery not worth neblewafa is strong tho

@ElliottSmith75 Год назад

We need an updated version of this with the new AI. I just got the game the other day and my first missions are nothing like this and so much harder!

@nickkozak4763 5 месяцев назад

i just love facing german Tiger II with super pershing’s unable to penetrate easily. and nothing like the very consistent crew shock mechanic which should honestly last less longer with each hit in a certain time period. and much more with the 14.5mm at guns. pretty fucking stupid with crew shocking because of that thing.

@MedPersonGuy 6 месяцев назад

Is there a way to move veteran units from one artillery piece to a newer one? I would love to keep the veteran crew and move them to a better gun.

@PuggoRebornChannel 6 месяцев назад

Unfortunately, they are linked solely to their original artillery piece. That would be amazing if possible

@realFurby 2 месяца назад

Thanks for tips brother

@n8zpyro Год назад

One thing that frustrated me about having forward scouts or even AT waiting to ambush is that the AI knows exactly where your units are and will actively send infantry directly to them and kill them, even tho it would have been impossible for them to know where they were if they followed the sameLOS/FOW rules as the player.