maybe its not a lame excuse might not taste like normal pad thai but like he said he was staying true to the original not it was the original meaning of course it would be different so brave and stunning of other chef to say it doesnt taste like pad thai while also not commenting on if it is good or not
@@Keithjustkeithwastaken then saying "its not too bad" after the chef didnt comment on that doesnt make sense. The whole goal was to prepare pad thai, in the chef's opinion, it wasnt one, not matter whether it tasted good or not.
Curb your "whiteness" Europeans don't actually have a cuisine and they need to come up with their own first before making variations of others with the same name. Mad respect to the guy criticizing Gordon's food! 😂
bharath kumar ramsay's cooking style is italian. That chef is a thai who cooks thai food. Gordon can cook more variety of dishes than him. He may be better in the thai dishes but that doesnt make him a better chef than Ramsay
Here's what I learned from reading David Thompson's book. Western food is based on portraying the flavor of the main ingredient, typically by cutting down the amount of ingredients or avoiding any overpowering flavoring. Thai food on the other hand uses a lot of very intense ingredients to achieve a delicate balance of flavors that define what that dish is supposed to taste like. The chef uses the words "sweet, sour and salty", so the balance of the flavoring agents (tamarind, fish sauce, sugar) is off, which means it's not pad thai. A western cook might think it's pad thai because the main ingredients (noodles, shrimp, bean sprouts etc) are there, but that's not what defines the dish.
@@attomicchicken that's a way exaggerated example you just gave. Assuming that OP's comments are accurate, it's probably just a reflection of the degree of importance that each culture places on ingredients vs flavour. Eg: you can change the noodles, the type of sugar, and use different pastes, it will be Pad Thai so long as you achieve a similar balance of flavour and texture. On the other hand, traditional Western approach to cooking are more strict about the ingredients -- they'd care about whether there's egg or peanuts, or the type of noodles used.
@@ZenchGenes yeah, that's cap. A plate where the food is literally raw and swimming in grease vs a dish that still tastes good but not in the way it's supposed to, and youd choose the grease ball?
@@crypt1d550 stop putting words in my mouth lol, I never said raw, I just said grease. You can put the grease aside. However You can’t have a pepperoni pizza without the pepperoni.
@@ZenchGenes So you would rather eat something disgusting and obviously unhealthy than something that still tastes good but is just prepared in a wrong way? That sounds pretty retarded not gonna lie.
lmao imagine if it was a contestant in his show. the number of people that had to go through therapy to get back from the trauma this guy puts them in is not a joke and certainly not something to respect
@@akshay4745 The people who signed up for the show knew exactly what they were getting themselves into. Besides, Ramsey’s shows typically involve working at high quality restaurant as a reward. If people do not meet those expectations, he will not be easy on them.
@@SA-pj3fzso it's okay to belittle People. for their bad food even when u mess up cooking for a king of Thailand? dude ur hypocrisy is astounding. he can have a second shot at messing up and not the contestants?he can mess up and cover it by saying its not that bad. how more delusional clout can he be he just said this is the dish i look cooking at home and the end result is a disaster. he is a pathetic can't cook drama queen idk why people hype him up when all he literally does is abuse people for bad food.
@@SA-pj3fz ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Bf9zBXs5fL8.html he even bullies an actual chef who knows cooking. now u may say its just a frndly banter go tell any chef that can actually cook the food they made was a pile of shit in a frndly banter. he Said he would even give up cooking if he looses lol. just goes on to prove how shameless he is still cooking after making the claim himself and loosing it. 😂
@@akshay4745 Cooking a dish at home for your family is completely different than cooking a dish for someone who’s an expert in a cuisine and has been cooking it their whole life. Once again, those people signed up for the show. I don’t think you realize that in one of Ramsay’s restaurants, that’s how the chefs are treated. They’re expected to be the best of the best which is why the restaurants are considered the best of the best. Not every person has that quality, and Ramsay isn’t afraid to let them know. “Pathetic can’t cook drama queen”. Right… that explains why he trained under the best chefs. If he couldn’t cook, they wouldn’t have even taken him into consideration. If he couldn’t cook, how come he won 2 Michelin stars at a restaurant in less than 3 years after joining them? If he couldn’t cook, he wouldn’t have TV shows offering spots at his prestigious restaurants as a reward…
The fact that this clip exists makes me feel that Ramsey is not ashamed of failure or afraid of humiliation, unlike other celebs. He is always learning, more to him
@@KakaCarrotCake. Does the race really matter that much here? Pad Thai is Pad Thai, regardless of the race of the one who judges it. Gorden was ignorent, the other chef was not. Race does not matter.
@@KakaCarrotCake. Ah, so if an African chef were to go to an English resturant, and does a dish wrong, then it would be valid to say " if the white man says it's wrong than it's wrong"? Not all asians eat Pad Thai and some whites have eaten it their whole lives. Can't they know it by heart also? Or no, it's an essential quality of the Asian race that they know Pad Thai better than the White race?
@@ianian4162 not the white man but the english man (white or black)is a valid thing to say. I see you have psychological issues Karen. I'll stay with the fact that I'm right and you are mad, just give up you are lame. Go on and try to teach a "Blanquette de Veau" to French Chef
@@ianian4162 Ofc any one race can make a pad thai, he's saying that this Thai chef is better at cooking it because it's a part of his culture and his cooking expertise and has more knowledge about the cuisine Quit being such a snowflake, do you read what you type?
Respect to Gordon for acknowledging that his version of another country’s dish might be inaccurate. Dishes have culture through ingredients and he knows that. This man truly respects food.
Why didn't he followed some authentic version of the recipe? Nowadays in era of internet it's easy to find recipes directly made by citizens of the country 🤔
He butchered their national dish, deviated so far it can't possibly be called pad Thai and had the audacity to serve it to a local experienced chef. That just screams incompetence. And his cowardly whining that it doesn't taste too bad just the icing on the cake. He himself bullied people for far less but when he butchers a national dish he won't even own it and take responsibility. Priceless... Go look up his carbonara with peas and mushrooms. It's a disgrace
He shuts up, swallow criticism and learn from people more qualified than him on making a particular dish without talking back trying to prove something, I respect that.
Umm did you watch the episode? Gordon says "I don't think it tastes too bad"...and then when the monks say they like it, he tries to rub it into the chef's face
Joke aside but i think Gordon has been yelled at a lot by other top chefs during his career. The fact that he still goes out of his comfort zone and wants to learn new things is what makes him a great chef for me.
@@dawniebug784 I dunno, he seemed pretty excited at first. He probably expected something off the charts from someone that popular and then was let down.
Thats what I love about serious chefs! They take their specialty so seriously its just so fun to watch them judge, comment and cook it the right way they know their people like
they're serving monks which anyone in thailand would take very seriously because they are a Buddhist country, so it would've made them look very bad. also a little bit of the "this white guy thinks he knows thai food" lol
Narrator: Gordon would then begin a 3 year spiral down into alcoholism and depression, losing his will to cook and ultimately retiring from the culinary world forever
Long ago, Gordon was the master in all culinary arts but when it was his turn to cook the Pad Thai, everything turned down hill. Gordon has disappeared from the culinary world for over a 100 years and now we need him more than ever
"Hey Gord, will ya pass me that spatula," the boy said as he accidentally flung the utensil into the bleachers in a foul. Gordon picks up the spatula and frowns, "this old thing? i haven't held one of these in ages..." He tosses it back, with the casual grace of once renowned star of the game. From across the field the other cooks see what's happening. The ref calls a time out and the head chef runs into the stands, pleading for Gordon to step in and save the game. He tosses his apron at Gordon, but he doesn't catch it. The whole restaurant sighs a heavy sigh of resignation and returns to their meals. And then the unthinkable happens. Gordon stands up, picks up the apron, and marches onto the line. With one confident wink and a stern glance, he says four words that return hope to the game: **where's the lamb sauce **
To be fair, cooking is an art that covers a myraid of recipes from every part of the world. Even someone who has mastered their craft, like Gordon, still don't know everything about cooking. The fact that Gordon was humble about it shows that he understands the old adage: "the more you know, the more you learn how much you don't know."
I think the sugar was the kicker. I've made it a few times with white sugar like he did and it just doesn't taste right. Palm sugar is best and brown sugar works okay. Plus you need a metric ass load of lime compared to how it is served in the west, otherwise it doesn't taste like what you get in Thailand.
@Piyatana Klinjun it's simple All everything you just need coconut sugar and tamarind juice from tamarind meat some fish sauce or soy sauce works They didn't put salt in because fish sauce always Salty than salt Need a good ingredient and well instructions even farmer can do it too
My girlfriend is thai and I'm a pro cook so I know how to make it pretty good and legit. Basically, if you dont have access to fresh tamarind to grind into paste, you can go to a asian market and buy tamarind paste. You start by boiling water and the tamarind paste about an equal ratio until it becomes a thick sauce. You than strain it, because the tamarind has a stringy pulp you dont want. Once you have your sauce (I typically use 2 cups of water and paste), you cook the sauce again. Adding soy sauce (1-3tsp about), about a quarter cup of coconut/palm sugar (crucial for the flavor), and than you can add your fish sauce (I'm vegan So I dont use it). Put all these ingredients to taste to your preference. One big secret is to toss your noodles in black soy sauce. Its awesome, because it firmly layers some really sweet and salty flavor into the noodle. From here, I simply sautee a little garlic and chili. Once sauteed I add my protein (typically tofu or seitan for me), cook, add your noodles, add your sauce. Boom. From here you serve it with chinese chive, peanut, dry chili, and mung bean sprouts on the side. Everytime I make this sauce, I'm able to make fresh pad thai, about 6 different orders worth. Infact I have noodles, pad thai sauce in my fridge now!
Fun fact: Gordon was used to much harsher criticism when he was under Marco Pierre White. Look up "Marco Pierre White and apprentice Gordon Ramsay" and hear the story about how he made Gordon cry. This amazing Thai chef was actually very polite with Gordon.
@@bskilla4892 Point is that people think the Thai chef was being brutal with Gordon when he was in fact polite in comparison with how Gordon is used to from his days as an apprentice chef. And you're right, his pad thai was bad. And I thought it was funny :)
The segment is about watching Gordon get embarrassed on TV in the same way he embarrasses other chefs. Whether there are other examples of it doesn't make this less fun for people to see.
Yeah. He is curious, tries a lot of new things. He doesn't want to stay still, he is always learning from different cultures. But the face the chef made was like Hilarious :D :D Asian chef (Faces twitches trying to hide the taste) Gordon: Oh noooo... not that faceeeee 1:23
@@nofy7819 thats Gordon's fucking character in hells kitchen and how they don't meet his fucking standards for thw costomers so they wouldn't get shit And if you really gonna defend those on kitchen nightmares then you must really like low hygiene standard kitchen with bottom of the berrel moldy food
When you have Asian dishes that add stuff like fish sauce or shrimp paste it's REALLY hard to get it right. It's going to ether taste bad or not authentic.
A master has failed more times than a beginner has even tried. He was once a beginner , I assure you he’s been verbally abused more times than he’s verbally abused people on television
To be fair Gordon at the start of this video did say "this is my take on a classic". Which means you usually cook the original and then alter it for your "take".
Look at his face he definitely didn't like it. If he liked it he probably would have said that after tasting and said that it isn't really pad Thai afterwards. But he was uncomfortable saying Gordon what he is thinking
@@irgendeinname9256 He's probably just confused because he expected to taste Pad Thai's flavor in his mouth, but instead got the unusual, westernized version of it.
@The Building Grammar Police, Yeah... a joke that makes no sense. It would have been funny if that was essentially an exaggeration of Gordon's reaction... but it wasn't.
@The Building Grammar Police, "... you said 'that's not what Gordon said' ..." You are a liar... I made no such statement. My original comment was pointing out that the genre of joke they were attempting failed... because that genre of joke is about exaggerating an existing sentiment... not about claiming the opposite sentiment occured. You don't understand how that genre of joke is supposed to be structured... so you corrected me out of your ignorance... that prevented you from perceiving why you are wrong... and why am correct. I never claimed it wasn't a joke... but that the joke was structured wrong, and that is why the joke failed. "I can't-" Yeah... that's become apparent.
It’s not Pad Thai, he has a very valid point. It probably tasted great, that doesn’t matter, you can’t call something Pad Thai if you don’t make Pad Thai.
As a Thai myself, I can understand why the Thai chef said that. Thai flavour is basically sweetness, sourness, and saltiness cranked up to 11. I'm one of the few Thais who don't enjoy Thai food very much because the flavours can be too extreme and not good for your health. I'm sure I would've loved Gordon's version of the Pad Thai.
Most of asian food is like that. Covering great (or sometimes not so great) ingredients with sauces and seasoning that mask the beautiful pure flavors of nature. When the joy of food should be in the ingredients and letting them talk for themselves. Sauces and seasoning should accentuate, not mask. Japanese cuisine is the only asian cuisine that respects the ingredients.
I'm not surprised at all, that's what Ramsey, "cooks at home." Which means it has been westernized. I'm pretty sure that Pad Thai is great for most westerners, but not Thailanders.
I've been to about a dozen Thai restaurants in the US and had their Pad Thai, and the taste has been pretty consistent between all of them and I'm sure most of them were made by Thai people. I don't know how authentic they've been, but what Ramsay made looks pretty different than what I've been eating.
@@Madchimpz thai cooker explains it all. Pad thai must include sweet and sour is first priority then a little salt. As i saw him I think he just seasoned too weak. pad thai need more seasoning.
Yeah, Ramsay has a tendency to change dishes too much from the traditional version in order to put his own twist on it. So it was probably really tasty, but no longer pad thai.
it's the difference in taste from different cultures, for Gordon maybe it's all right but that's for him and his people's standards, but when asians try it it's just not right
@@yinnacle9885 Nah, he's right. Saying 'asians' is grouping an entire continent as one country. It's not about racism, it's just completely overgeneralised and incorrect. It's like if you were to say European food is all the same. It's absolutely not.
Love how he doesn't argue or get defensive. He says "oh no..." because he's legitimately disappointed, and as the chef starts to tell him what's wrong he immediately tastes it himself so he can see what the chef's talking about. I'd love to see how he does it now, and if the chef would approve today.
@@Wataheadable How "tough cookie" could be a insult? If something doesn't taste like something doesn't mean it taste bad, it's like a burger does not taste like steak, doesn't mean the burger taste bad, it is just not a steak.
he likely still cooks this recipe since he enjoys it but he probably doesnt call it pad thai anymore since it isnt pad thai. the chef didnt say what he made didnt taste good, the chef just said it wasnt pad thai.
Exactly. Feom what I can tell he used the right ingredients, a hell of a lot of sugar (though not palm sugar). Maybe not enough tamarind and fish sauce?
I’m Thai. I wish I could break down the details for you as well. But since I have never cooked Pad Thai by myself, I cannot. Although I can say that from the looks of it, it gives me strange feelings. It doesn’t look like the Pad Thai that I used to always eat.
Salty part of pad thai mostly comes from that small penny size shrimp, gordon used tamarind paste while most street vendor use watered down tamarind paste to cook the noodle until soft that caused the noodle to absorb the sauce. Don't even get me started on the amount of sugar this isn't a dessert and the finished product looks dried and to top it off loads of peanuts. Don't get me wrong it might be delicious but if I ordered a Pad Thai I expect to get Pad Thai not just some random delicious stir fried. If you ordered a coke you expect to get the coke not pepsi ITS NOT THE SAME!!
My recipe as thai chef at lotus: Boil soaked noodle 25 seconds. Drain. Throw noodle in hot oiled wok.with garlic. Toss to brown/make chewy/ evaporate water. (Add "parboiled shrimp" if using shrimp) Add sauce(tamarind/fish sauce/ vinager/coconut sugar) toss/thicken 30 secs. add preserved cabbage/ already "velveted" meat. Add green onion/peanuts/ beansprout. Toss. Plate. Garnish with lime/sprout pile Full jet engine heat whole time. Cook time 2 minute. He did all wrong and not quicker nobody uses salt in Asian food, use Fermented salty sauces/foods instead for flavor (soy/fish/chili/broadbean/Oyster etc)
What surprised me is that he was watching Gordon making that dish right from the beginning and was laughing around and “happppppy” and all that...once he puts that thing in his mouth, his face changed as if he shit his pants lol
He's actually makes quiet a few dishes from other cultures that people from said cultures wouldn't agree with. Not saying it's not good but hard to say it's actually that dish
It’s really hard to get used to the sweet and sour palate of Thai if you never eat them long enough. Gordon probably tried to adjust with the western/Italian sour style instead of Thai’s. Thai’s are more distinct
why would he put two slices of bread against his forehead and ask him a question? 😕😂 ... wouldn’t two slices of bread be put against his ears, instead? 😕😕 you, UNCULTURED SWINE! 😕😕
lmao the funniest thing is in kitchens nightmare is when the restaurent owners say "i think its good" he insults them but you can hear him say that to the chef who teaches him.
Except that he is cooking with fresh and real ingredients. Plus this dish is not of his culture, imagine if we microwave a frozen beef wellington and serve it to him calling it beef wellington. He will show u the death stare. But in this case he just doesn't know a Thai person's taste bud and its perfectly ok. Heck i never understood my thai ex's fascination for Pra Ka Pao(spicy minced pork sprinkled on rice) cuz it was not 香辣 (aromatic spicy) like a chinese dish
It's funny like this, but when you watch the whole clip Gordon remarks about how unskilled he is in Thai cuisine and looks forward to learning from the other chef. Maybe it was just worse than the guy thought it would be.
He pretends to be more knowledgeable about foreign food than he is. His "paella" from another video was a complete joke and a misrepresentation of Spanish cuisine. And keep in mind that, despite being from Spain, I'm pretty lax to what can be considered a paella. His pasta tutorial is even worse, I was amazed at the rookie mistakes that he made. I guess he knows British food, and other cuisines, but he's just terrible with some others. The dude is terribly good at keeping people entertained and playing his persona though, and that's what matters in British and American TV.
